Good people of South Africa let us pray for our Country so that the must not be war in our Country God does answer prayer also to pray that difficulty of our Country to be solved in peace
The ANC has inflicted damage on itself. No single individual has ever caused more damage to the ANC than what the ANC has been doing to itself and our people.
@@mahlomolasaka1579 a rutwa ke ANC, a kwetliswa ke ANC, a tshehetswa botlamuweng ke ANC. O hiriloe ke ANC ... Ho thata ho bua le batho ba se nang boko 😂
@@welcomemthembu3046 E filwe ke ANC.. Zuma ha a sebetse, a ka be a se na letho ntle le ANC - ha se letho ntle le ANC. - ANC e mo entse mopresidente ka lebaka la kreste
@@malusintombela7483 true! And the fact that his shady book deal left him naked in public but he continues shows how shameless he is. And for 702 to keep propping him as if he's upright and reasonable is really sad
ANC needs to cleanse itself because at this stage it is rotten to the core - it has sold its soul to the devil. I'm happy that Zuma, the only true president we've ever had, in this so-called democracy (30 years). It really saddens to see that some of my people ngamadube aseSandlwana, they've lost their identity - they've bought into the illusion that white and black can unite. If that is the case, how come that we're are dealing with indepth racism, which is escalating everyday from white people? How come that the colonizers have not asked for forgiveness from the natives of the land for their wickedness since 1652? How come they've not voluntarily returned even one thing stolen from the natives? How come that even today we're paying more interest on bank loans than them? How come we pay more at shops than them? How come that their lives continue to be better and that of the natives getting worse? How come that when a native pays off a luxurious car, such as BMW, etc., is strategically forced to give up on his car due to manufactured maintenance problems which are very expensive? I pray that the natives of the land wake up and fight for their true liberation
@@zanelemalehase5652 The richest people in the country are black, not white. The most powerful people in the country are black, not white. The reason why there is a difference? Because the white people have not been fooled by nativist and communist narratives such as yours.. If you say that the Western Cape are better then other areas of SA because of racism and not governance then you are essentially saying that the SA should embrace pro-white racism because that is the only thing that has fixed roads, provided people with public services and made the crime go down. Your racist and nativist ideology only makes black South Africans look worse, not better.
Can someone please tell me why is this news and why does the media gives it this much attention or is it Zuma that want to stay in the limelight or be relevant. He should have resigned the minute that he joined the MK Party. So he want to be a member of the ANC and MK at the same time. Doesn't work that way I cant be a member of the DA and the PA at the same time. Damn these people.
example: an employee abscond and tells you that I don't need your employment.what is the disciplinary hearing is for?? he came to the hearing knowing his fate and he was not bothered.Zuma has not lost, guess who lost???he formed a party that took some power from the ANC.there was no need for the hearing but a waste of time spent there while the country is falling apart.ANC tested its power and lost to Zuma
How did he respond in the trial, but then again, he has never had a fair trial, in fact he has been jailed without trial even in cases where apartheid leaders like Botha were given a fine
Amazingly, you will hear people saying the ANC this, ANC that, which ANC are you referring to???.. ANC is gone and the so-called veterans left there are like toothless dogs period!!
Internal issues of ANC how is it helping South Africa Zuma saga we have nothing to loose I think we have shift our focus, with ANC matters that we have nothing to benefit out off, if they can follow up corruption like Zuma our nation will be the best stp intertaining nonsense and focus in building the nation
The same section which was used to dismiss Zuma, has a clause which says you have committed constitutional misconduct if you are found guilty of financial crimes in a court. But this man is openly in contempt of the judiciary in this country and the ANC, only when the bread is threatened wants to end association. How about you have some self-respect and not associate with people who do not subscribe to the rule of law in this country? Shame on the ANC that it took lost votes to make this decision. It shows how little the party leadership cares about the rules of the game, so long as they're winning.
whether Zuma played a victim he won.mahbe we should understand that the ANC is jot SA, SA is the citizens not the way around.Zuma switched off the life line machine of the ANC.sad though.the ANC that we once believed in so much
@@mthobisipm 702 is disrespecting the journalism profession as a whole because they are clearly siding with agents of, well, you know who.... And Prince Mashele with his R12m book saga is the poster boy
@@aarongunnz9513 hmm.... Not really. I was OK with Prince until that book deal scandal....people had been saying he's a gun for hire and that thing left him exposed
Zuma has certainly added to the woes of the ANC, absolutely no doubt about it. He is very much the beginning of what was to be the end for the ANC. Talk about burning the house down on your way out...
@@xman1533 Yes of course the ANC has no choice but to move on without him. It doesn't however mean the ANC shouldn't do a post mortem of what led to this point. Zuma was like a cancer for the ANC eating it from within. Now that he has been removed the ANC has an opportunity to reimagine itself. The ANC can never be what they used to be, time has changed. They need to reimagine themselves, forget about renewal. They need to reposition themselves in society. Make no mistake about it, even on limp mode the ANC still very much holds sway in South African politics. At the current moment there doesn't seem like there is a singular political party in the country ready to fill the void of the once glorious movement of the people. The DA will never truly get rid of it's racist tendencies. Never!!! The EFF is Julius Malema's spaza shop unapologetic about taking part in stealing from the most vulnerable amongst us. The MKP will not survive a day after the demise of Zuma. Not even in KZN. The rest are just pretenders to the throne and they know it too.
It is doomsayer's thinking that the ANC is at its dead-end. It its 112 years of existence, the ANC has been to challenges throughout. The issue of Zuma and the so called MK is now put behind. Without people like Zuma, the ANC is in essence on the pathway to Renewal. It is going to attract more sober minded people in its support base.
I like the fact that Jacob Zuma did not want to participate in ANC corruption especially after they pretended to be fighting corruption sending him to jail while leaving the worst corrupt guys
Zuma is the only one with no price tag like bo Cyril have prices like money under the bed and shares in white capital zuma has zero shares in white capital that is why they want zuma destroyed
There's something about Zuma i m telling you😂 Zuma is not just a mayer man But hi was send that is why the are behind him. How many leaders left Anc but today is Zuma is promble 😅 Problem is Bhalulu speaking to much but yet no results
Your whole CARRIER is base on Zuma . Its unfortunate that you chose to stand against the Chosen of God! Anyway even Daniel had his own kind against him,but they parished
Bongani Bingwa and Xolani Mgabhi are forever using rude and insulting words towards President Zuma and it is unacceptable for yopeople of the press to lower yourselves to a level so low moralled to continue to insult President Zuma. These socalled analysts and stupid accademics will never stop our victory as MK Party. Funny is that you do not mention Moseua Lekota and his COPE.
the anc has inflicted damage on south africa for 30 years! from mandela to ramapoepal, all the way - south africa was a mess. it was not as easy to see in the beginning, it was well hidden, but it festered
You jailed zuma so what a 80 year old man who worked for snc when all of you amaqwala were scared to go to the hostels butzuma went they even burned his family whilst mbekis and mandela and so on were stayingon suburbs all of are hipcrits at a very hgh level remember subukwe was more intelleng than mandela all of this things we know
@@aarongunnz9513 viva mk 🌹 viva bab msholozi no matter what they say we are behind you may god go give you and your family wisdom and prosperity viva mkhondo
"Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely". U can never be bigger than the movement. A lesson learnt on Humility. . . .
The poem is so apt. Narcissists behave this way, causing the problem and playing the victim.
Sport on
Good people of South Africa let us pray for our Country so that the must not be war in our Country God does answer prayer also to pray that difficulty of our Country to be solved in peace
you a drowning in colonial tool of enslaving black people "praying"...stop using praying in politics mam...grow up
Why the expel of Zuma become an issue although he fired himself to open a new Party?
Exactly
Good riddens he was too much of a burden.
expelling zuma is like saying you are expelling your heart from yourself
Cannot be in two places at the same time..
you are politically empty
The ANC has inflicted damage on itself. No single individual has ever caused more damage to the ANC than what the ANC has been doing to itself and our people.
Guys the ANC is not South Africa, the people in the country are. Whatever chess strategy they are playing, they are checked right now.
He should be banned and all taken from him - it was all given in the name of the ANC ..
Given by who? What are those gifts?
What are you talking about......???
@@mahlomolasaka1579 a rutwa ke ANC, a kwetliswa ke ANC, a tshehetswa botlamuweng ke ANC. O hiriloe ke ANC ... Ho thata ho bua le batho ba se nang boko 😂
@@welcomemthembu3046 E filwe ke ANC.. Zuma ha a sebetse, a ka be a se na letho ntle le ANC - ha se letho ntle le ANC. - ANC e mo entse mopresidente ka lebaka la kreste
@@Papito_ZA 😀😀 whatever he has got he worked for, when you work you are not given you earn, infact Zuma did more for anc than it did for him
Prince Mashele doesn't beat around the bush.
@@simphiwetom9509 the standard is very low if he is rated so highly
@@simphiwetom9509 Money bought him. I no longer trust his comments
Prince Mashela has never comment with sober mind when it comes to President JZ.
Shame These old man, the curse is on their children
@@malusintombela7483 true! And the fact that his shady book deal left him naked in public but he continues shows how shameless he is. And for 702 to keep propping him as if he's upright and reasonable is really sad
The pain stacked disciplinary process - no member is above the constitution ❤
Aaah yes, by all means, f*ck up the country six ways to Sunday. Have a ball.
However, damaging us?! This shall not stand!
😂😂😂
Thanks coach for sharing n have a blessed evening.
What about those fingered in state capture but never faced consequences?
Good job the man de campaigned he’s own party because of his personal vendetta with Cyril they did well removing him
Zuma must gow he is not bigger than a oganasion
But Ramaphosa sellout is bigger than organisation
Zuma disrespected the ANC and destroy Oliver Tambo,Chief Albert Luthuli 's organization
This firm action is welcomed, however this action should have been concluded March or April allready. Anc left it festering for to long to late.
ANC needs to cleanse itself because at this stage it is rotten to the core - it has sold its soul to the devil. I'm happy that Zuma, the only true president we've ever had, in this so-called democracy (30 years). It really saddens to see that some of my people ngamadube aseSandlwana, they've lost their identity - they've bought into the illusion that white and black can unite. If that is the case, how come that we're are dealing with indepth racism, which is escalating everyday from white people? How come that the colonizers have not asked for forgiveness from the natives of the land for their wickedness since 1652? How come they've not voluntarily returned even one thing stolen from the natives? How come that even today we're paying more interest on bank loans than them? How come we pay more at shops than them? How come that their lives continue to be better and that of the natives getting worse? How come that when a native pays off a luxurious car, such as BMW, etc., is strategically forced to give up on his car due to manufactured maintenance problems which are very expensive? I pray that the natives of the land wake up and fight for their true liberation
@@zanelemalehase5652 The richest people in the country are black, not white. The most powerful people in the country are black, not white. The reason why there is a difference? Because the white people have not been fooled by nativist and communist narratives such as yours.. If you say that the Western Cape are better then other areas of SA because of racism and not governance then you are essentially saying that the SA should embrace pro-white racism because that is the only thing that has fixed roads, provided people with public services and made the crime go down.
Your racist and nativist ideology only makes black South Africans look worse, not better.
ANC is like windows 95. Obsolete. Just kidding, but hey Zuma has moved on, so should you before you lose all your voters.
Can someone please tell me why is this news and why does the media gives it this much attention or is it Zuma that want to stay in the limelight or be relevant. He should have resigned the minute that he joined the MK Party. So he want to be a member of the ANC and MK at the same time. Doesn't work that way I cant be a member of the DA and the PA at the same time. Damn these people.
There is no common sense , no loyalty , it's all for attention and drama
You don't know what you are talking about. How many members of ANC are also member of SACP
@@haswonunion3281 but we slit votes and it's allowed; I was thinking about that.
We are happy finally Zuma can fight for us freely and exposed those who are ANC members bcos of money not for ppl
I like that 😂
Zuma inflicted damage? Zuma?! ...The ANC made its own bed
Exactly
I couldn't care less...
We should concentrate on what is going on regarding the problem with the police force smaller than the security industry
Im not a politician But ANC will never die because of Zuma
True
Absolutely 💯 true
example: an employee abscond and tells you that I don't need your employment.what is the disciplinary hearing is for?? he came to the hearing knowing his fate and he was not bothered.Zuma has not lost, guess who lost???he formed a party that took some power from the ANC.there was no need for the hearing but a waste of time spent there while the country is falling apart.ANC tested its power and lost to Zuma
The problem is that people keep asking wrong questions and they will never get the right answers
ANC will be sustained by a class that benefits from the gravy trough of WMC while the lower black masses will always be accommodated by mk n eff
Love or Hate him Prince is brilliant 😊.
There's two people who lay and hit the last nail on the ANC coffin is Ramaphosa and Zuma
How did he respond in the trial, but then again, he has never had a fair trial, in fact he has been jailed without trial even in cases where apartheid leaders like Botha were given a fine
Western media n western leadership
Amazingly, you will hear people saying the ANC this, ANC that, which ANC are you referring to???.. ANC is gone and the so-called veterans left there are like toothless dogs period!!
Dr Ongama is not saying anything
Is it just me or did the guest not answer any of the questions....
Prince can fix this country he is always telling the truth
TOO LITTLE,TOO LATE!DAMAGE IS ALREADY DONE,PRES-JZ IS A POLITICAL GURU,LOVE HIM OR HATE HIM BUT,HE KNOWS HOW TO FIGHT HIS ENEMIES EVEN WITHIN!🎉
Dream on this old Crook is not long for this live then what for UMKHONTO WIL SWEETS HE.
Shame man your hatred is on another level
While it is expedient to sacrifice JZ legacy, history will be the judge
He was not expelled, he resigned long time ago.
It would be nice to include the name of the political analyst 'Ongama Mtimka' in the title
We didn't need JZ for the Anc to get 40%
I guess, we will never know, but by the looks, in what happenned its him, who rescued SA from the ANC
Zuma@@jamludentertainment
@@jamludentertainmentamen
Zuma left the ANC at his own accord.
... We all know who is the found of COPE,.yerrrrrrrr politics!!!
Can you prove it??
But zoom can be proven to have established MK
We have heard that false story and I don't believe it 😂
ZUMA GONE BUT PHALAPHALA AND MARIKANA REMAIN
Zuma was a President when police killed people in Marikana and Nathi Mthethwa was a police minister
Internal issues of ANC how is it helping South Africa Zuma saga we have nothing to loose I think we have shift our focus, with ANC matters that we have nothing to benefit out off, if they can follow up corruption like Zuma our nation will be the best stp intertaining nonsense and focus in building the nation
The ANC died when JZ fired Julius Malema. Thst was the nail in the coffin. What we have is just an auction of SA right now
The same section which was used to dismiss Zuma, has a clause which says you have committed constitutional misconduct if you are found guilty of financial crimes in a court. But this man is openly in contempt of the judiciary in this country and the ANC, only when the bread is threatened wants to end association. How about you have some self-respect and not associate with people who do not subscribe to the rule of law in this country? Shame on the ANC that it took lost votes to make this decision. It shows how little the party leadership cares about the rules of the game, so long as they're winning.
The introduction of former unionists who are always sellers inflicted ANC, now it's former exiled vs former unionists = 40% to 33% in 2026 and 2029
To me I would have afforded him the opportunity to present himself in person. Unless of course there is still covid lockdown that I may understand.
What is the difference?
They didn't want him in Luthuli house cos he was gonna sprinkle muthi. You know, Zuma got powerful muthi
Zuma today who is next...
Yaa nee .
The ANC betrayed Zuma not the other way round
He is just a very bitter fool who now realises that no one wants him anymore 😂😂😈😈😭😭💯💯💯
Clearly it takes 1 fool to see another one....he now been loved more than ever by the people who wants change.....
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Amen to that; we LOVE him.
We love Msholozi more than before, ANC of Ramaphoza is nomore.
Really??? With so many people joining MKP, you think no one wants him...no you must be dreaming. In fact it is you who is bitter.
No snubbing shown
The expelsion was long overdue Zuma was a liability to ANC The end of the road to him The MKP is a dynasty not a political party
whether Zuma played a victim he won.mahbe we should understand that the ANC is jot SA, SA is the citizens not the way around.Zuma switched off the life line machine of the ANC.sad though.the ANC that we once believed in so much
The Abuse of power… what about PhalaPhala
They won't say anything about that they only want Zumas head
Good Lord... 702 still forces a discredited Prince Mashele as a voice of reason on the public?
I no longer take him serious.
@@mthobisipm 702 is disrespecting the journalism profession as a whole because they are clearly siding with agents of, well, you know who.... And Prince Mashele with his R12m book saga is the poster boy
Mashele doesn't beat the bush. He calls a spade a spade, so Zuma's people hates him(Mashele)
@@aarongunnz9513 hmm.... Not really. I was OK with Prince until that book deal scandal....people had been saying he's a gun for hire and that thing left him exposed
hahaha...just because 702 know that Mashele does not hold punches against JZ
Zuma did not cause a.n.c any thing a.n.c.has cause it self that damage
Zuma has certainly added to the woes of the ANC, absolutely no doubt about it.
He is very much the beginning of what was to be the end for the ANC. Talk about burning the house down on your way out...
You can cry about it,he is gone now let the ANC continue with out him
@@xman1533 Yes of course the ANC has no choice but to move on without him. It doesn't however mean the ANC shouldn't do a post mortem of what led to this point. Zuma was like a cancer for the ANC eating it from within. Now that he has been removed the ANC has an opportunity to reimagine itself. The ANC can never be what they used to be, time has changed. They need to reimagine themselves, forget about renewal. They need to reposition themselves in society.
Make no mistake about it, even on limp mode the ANC still very much holds sway in South African politics. At the current moment there doesn't seem like there is a singular political party in the country ready to fill the void of the once glorious movement of the people.
The DA will never truly get rid of it's racist tendencies. Never!!!
The EFF is Julius Malema's spaza shop unapologetic about taking part in stealing from the most vulnerable amongst us.
The MKP will not survive a day after the demise of Zuma. Not even in KZN.
The rest are just pretenders to the throne and they know it too.
Zuma gone but marikana n phalaphala remains
It is doomsayer's thinking that the ANC is at its dead-end. It its 112 years of existence, the ANC has been to challenges throughout. The issue of Zuma and the so called MK is now put behind. Without people like Zuma, the ANC is in essence on the pathway to Renewal. It is going to attract more sober minded people in its support base.
Think again
Expel or not he wins over ramaphosas anc zuma for the peiple
I'm fine with Mk
😂😂😂😂 Heh... Heh.... Heh... Heh... Heh!
I like the fact that Jacob Zuma did not want to participate in ANC corruption especially after they pretended to be fighting corruption sending him to jail while leaving the worst corrupt guys
9 wasted years of corruption of Zuma
@@aarongunnz9513 It is Ramaphosa and Media you talked of 9 wasted years...but Phalaphala yona? CR has done what so far?
@@Tsebomjiks9789 bo Ramadollar ke bana ba makgowa. O ka se ba etse sepe
@@aarongunnz9513 ka nnete
@@Tsebomjiks9789 Mbeki ke ene fela o saleng a hlola Ramadollar
Zuma is the only one with no price tag like bo Cyril have prices like money under the bed and shares in white capital zuma has zero shares in white capital that is why they want zuma destroyed
Come 2026 election.ANZc will pay the price
There's something about Zuma i m telling you😂
Zuma is not just a mayer man But hi was send that is why the are behind him.
How many leaders left Anc but today is Zuma is promble 😅
Problem is Bhalulu speaking to much but yet no results
Your whole CARRIER is base on Zuma . Its unfortunate that you chose to stand against the Chosen of God!
Anyway even Daniel had his own kind against him,but they parished
To me the last man to hit the last nail of the coffin of any party is the last leadership.Ramaphosa is to blame.
You see things like me ....😅 they just talk for the money not that Zuma is wrong.. ..
Bongani Bingwa and Xolani Mgabhi are forever using rude and insulting words towards President Zuma and it is unacceptable for yopeople of the press to lower yourselves to a level so low moralled to continue to insult President Zuma. These socalled analysts and stupid accademics will never stop our victory as MK Party. Funny is that you do not mention Moseua Lekota and his COPE.
ANC all inflicted pain to RSA. Zuma started it all. No more😂😂😂😂
the anc has inflicted damage on south africa for 30 years! from mandela to ramapoepal, all the way - south africa was a mess. it was not as easy to see in the beginning, it was well hidden, but it festered
You jailed zuma so what a 80 year old man who worked for snc when all of you amaqwala were scared to go to the hostels butzuma went they even burned his family whilst mbekis and mandela and so on were stayingon suburbs all of are hipcrits at a very hgh level remember subukwe was more intelleng than mandela all of this things we know
Zuma went to hostel for his own development
@@aarongunnz9513 viva mk 🌹 viva bab msholozi no matter what they say we are behind you may god go give you and your family wisdom and prosperity viva mkhondo
@@aarongunnz9513 what was that development?