Federer was on a 25 match win streak coming into this match. After this he beat Nadal in straight sets at Indian wells. Just couldn’t handle the Bo5 here
Haven't finished watching yet, but something remarkable about the first and second set is how mental this game is. Considering only the level of tennis, Federer was clearly above : brilliant shotmaking, achieving almost everything he tried, and not letting Nadal take the better of him on the backhand side. But, everytime he broke, Nadal broke back. Because of how mentally strong he was. On the other hand, when Federer got broken in the second, he just collapsed. Edit : just saw the 3rd, again, Nadal broke back immidiately
Exactly. Watching now, The mental factor was The key in that match and in the 2009 AO FINAL. Federer mental game was weaker than Nadal. After the AO 2009, Federer was struggling with his game in Indian Wells and Miami. He lost matches that he should have won (against Murray and Djokovic). He regained some confidence in Madrid and after his win at FRENCH OPEN. After this, he won Wimbledon, Cincinatti and lost, too, the USOpen Final against Del Potro (Federer was leading 1-0 in sets, and serving for the second set with 30-0. Should he won the second set, Del Potro wouldnt have the will tô battle a confidente Federer.
For me, Federer is more talented than Djokovic and Nadal, but his confidence wasnt good when they started to play really great (Nadal and Djokovic in 2008 with Federer with mononucleosis and after, the back problems). Federer shouldnt have lost The AO 2009, the USOpen 2009, the USOpen 2010 and 2011 semifinais against Djokovic, the 2015 and 2019 Wimbledon finals too. Tennis is a mental game. And Nadal and Djokovic put Federer mental game in check.
This is such a strange assessment lol. When Federer breaks it’s “good tennis,” when Nadal breaks its “mental strength.” Nadal plays good tennis too. I don’t know how you watch him fire off three amazing passing shots to break serve in the 2-3 game second set and think, “Federer played better but Nadal has mental strength.” Tennis fans are so posh.
@@SJ-di5zu Woah don't make me say what I didn't say. Of course Nadal plays an amazing tennis. But regarding the overall performance and the rallies, I tend to say that Federer's tennis is sharper, more agressive and he gets to achieve his ideas more easily than Nadal. Which makes Nadal's performance even more impressive, because he is able to play his best tennis in clutch moments while Federer is unable to remain consistent under pressure. Federer seems to win more battles, but he surely didn't win the war. And in a sense, this what I tremendously appreciate with Nadal: his ability to overcome situations where he is not dominating his opponent.
This match has way better shotmaking from Federer than I remember. Didn't go to 5 sets but still some excellent shots. And of course this is the match with his coolest ballkid catch.
Federer should have won that match. I Think the factor here was The mental thing. The 2009 AO final too. Federer was playing really good but The mental factor was determinant.
That's what made his 2017 win so legendary... coming back from so many months out and then beats nadal in the final being a break down in the 5th, you never saw that before from Fed.
This was peak defensive Rafa . He couldnt compete with either Federer on Djokovic on non-clay courts after coz his body couldn't sustain the defensive tennis
His last major tournament at his peak was Australia Open 2014, after the physical injury in the final something caused his physical level to decline even though RG later won. Let's say that the best Nadal at his physical peak is close to the best Djokovic and Federer.
Prime Murray has 3 GSs, 1 ATP FINALS and 14 masters 1000, 1 year end number 1. Sinner is very close tô Murray. In GSs, Alcaraz has surpassed Murray. But Alcaraz first GS was easier (without the big 3 in the final).
This match is very very similar to Wimbledon 2019 semis between the two. First set Tiebreak won by FED. Then second set, RAFA wins convincingly (also FED just lets it go.) But the 3rd and 4th set is the key difference. FED was way more mentally stronger in Wimbledon 2019 compared to AUS OPEN 2012, because he had switched his racket and beaten Nadal at AUS 2017, IW 2017, Miami 2017, Shanghai 2017. He knew NADAL was only a threat on clay. On other surfaces, he could beat him. That mentality is what was missing at AUS OPEN 2012. I think FED had his chances in this semi, he could have won it. But NADAL just wouldn't go away......
In the quarterfinals of Wimbledon 2022, in the match with Fritz, he had an abdominal pain that prevented him from serving. Instead of retiring, he continued playing, there were 5 sets and a final tiebreak, he epically won that match but the result was that he could not play. the semifinal against Kirgios and from then on he could not fully recover, he returned but was no longer the same.
He was a one-trick man with Fed and unfortunately that won him many key matches. Djoker was able to neutralize with a weaker forehand, but a much stronger backhand.
Imagine if Federer had a double handed backhand? I wonder if that extra kinda something you get from the left arm could have made a difference? I know his single hand backhand is insane and looks cool but…. It’s Federer. If he did have double handed he’d be also crazy good at that. Maybe he would have won like 3 or 5 more slams who knows
blue clay hardcourt since 2008 ... Federer had to adapt with slower courts. that's why he never won US Open since 2008. Baseliner like Nadal and Djokovic love this one
Wow, amazing match, incredible shotmaking from both Federer and Nadal, Nadal was just mentally stronger than Federer in the important moments, and gave Federer tons of trouble from the backhand side. But who would have thought that the next match Nadal played (against Djokovic) we would be witnessing one of the greatest and longest matches in tennis history, almost six hours of incredible resilience and shotmaking! I miss this aggresive and scintillating tennis, better than Sinner and Alcaraz.
Watch the Sinner vs Alcaraz match in the quarterfinals of the Us Open 2022, it is one of the greatest matches in history due to quality, power and speed of shots, I recommend it.
@cocolatin1 I saw it live in person at the US Open, I was there, I will never forget it, was an amazing match, thanks for your recommendation! I live in NY, so come almost every year to see US Open. I think that match lasted more than five hours and ended around 2AM, it was quite remarkable! I also remember watching the 2019 US Open final between Nadal and Medvedev in person, another match for the ages. I regret for not seeing in person the 2011 US Open semis between Federer and Djokovic and then the 2011 US Open final between Djokovic and Nadal, the semis was a match for ages. But, I agree with you, the Alcaraz/Sinner 2022 US Open Quarterfinals and the 2019 Nadal and Medvedev final are right up there amongst the best ever matches played at the US Open. I do miss Federer and Nadal, and it's a pity they never played each other at the US Open. I loved watching on TV their 2008 Wimbledon Final. Too early to tell, but I have faith in Alcaraz and Sinner to do amazing things in tennis history, could possibly be the next Federer Nadal or Djokovic Federer rivalry, we shall see.
@@Laland_1196 Yes this court was so fast, as evidenced by the quick matches full of short points in this tournament like Djokovic Vs. Nadal (only 6 hours) and Djokovic Vs. Murray (only 5 hours).
He wouldn't demolish 2017 Fed as Fed was more impressive against Rafa in 2017 than before. 2012 Rafa would still win I think though as 2012 Rafa was for sure a level (maybe more) above 2017 Rafa and 2017 Rafa was a break ahead of Fed in that 5th set. 2012 Rafa was also physically superior to 2017 Rafa and capable of better defending on hardcourts, extracting more errors and staying in points longer, which was a big part of his game. Not a chance does 2012 Rafa get smoked 6-1 in a set by 2017 Fed either like happened in that 3rd set of 2017.
I wouldn't say destroy but I definitely think Nadal would've won in 4 sets simply because 2012 Nadal would've been too fast and physically much stronger than 2017 Federer.
This is why i ll never be a Nadal fan, he was a "so dirty player" grunting , fist pumping , yelling for every points... i can't believe this behavior is admitted in a competition match ...
Rafa's entire gameplan was to hammer Fed's backhand. Too easy for him at times. That one Achilles heel overshadowed Fed's better serve, volley and forehand.
Yeah yeah of course Nadal is better than Federer in Hard courts. That is why Federer in hard courts :- 11 grand slams while Nadal in hard courts:- 6 grand slams.
@@Laland_1196 So do you agree that Federer was past his prime when this match was played and Federer was 5 years older than Nadal. So whatever Federer did was magical because of his age.
@princemay73 Are you watched their 2012 final of AO, they are in prime there and its very close match. If you compare that match with this its a serious joke, Federer was not even close of beating Rafa
@@miljkoni3404everyone knows Novak’s performances became better and better since then while Nadal (obviously through injuries) deteriorated So, 2012 was not Djoko’s prime years
@HehoiHehoi 0 Atp finals way less hardcourt titles negative h2h record against both Roger and Novak outside of clay. Also he was never better than Federer on indoor HC
@@cocolatin1 you are a kiddo, Sampras retired at 31, Nadal can never play good on faster courts. Nadal has a poor record in Wimbledon losing to over 100 rated players and non-rated players for consecutively 5 years🤣🤣🤣
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Federer was on a 25 match win streak coming into this match. After this he beat Nadal in straight sets at Indian wells. Just couldn’t handle the Bo5 here
Would’ve been interesting to see him play Djokovic in the final
it would have been 3-0 or 3-1 for novak as usual. nadal has put up a better fight@@ertugrulkorpinar51
Nadal was having knee problems at IW. He retired at Miami
Probably would have been a straight set loss. Roger really struggled against Novak at AO @@ertugrulkorpinar51
@@TheKakarot_itachi Then suddenly the knees problems ended once clay season hit LOL
Nadal had a great tournament that year! Fed started well and played some crazy tennis too, but Nadal outlasted him. Fed is still the GOAT for me
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Haven't finished watching yet, but something remarkable about the first and second set is how mental this game is. Considering only the level of tennis, Federer was clearly above : brilliant shotmaking, achieving almost everything he tried, and not letting Nadal take the better of him on the backhand side.
But, everytime he broke, Nadal broke back. Because of how mentally strong he was.
On the other hand, when Federer got broken in the second, he just collapsed.
Edit : just saw the 3rd, again, Nadal broke back immidiately
Exactly. Watching now, The mental factor was The key in that match and in the 2009 AO FINAL. Federer mental game was weaker than Nadal. After the AO 2009, Federer was struggling with his game in Indian Wells and Miami. He lost matches that he should have won (against Murray and Djokovic). He regained some confidence in Madrid and after his win at FRENCH OPEN. After this, he won Wimbledon, Cincinatti and lost, too, the USOpen Final against Del Potro (Federer was leading 1-0 in sets, and serving for the second set with 30-0. Should he won the second set, Del Potro wouldnt have the will tô battle a confidente Federer.
For me, Federer is more talented than Djokovic and Nadal, but his confidence wasnt good when they started to play really great (Nadal and Djokovic in 2008 with Federer with mononucleosis and after, the back problems). Federer shouldnt have lost The AO 2009, the USOpen 2009, the USOpen 2010 and 2011 semifinais against Djokovic, the 2015 and 2019 Wimbledon finals too. Tennis is a mental game. And Nadal and Djokovic put Federer mental game in check.
This is such a strange assessment lol. When Federer breaks it’s “good tennis,” when Nadal breaks its “mental strength.” Nadal plays good tennis too. I don’t know how you watch him fire off three amazing passing shots to break serve in the 2-3 game second set and think, “Federer played better but Nadal has mental strength.” Tennis fans are so posh.
@@SJ-di5zu Woah don't make me say what I didn't say.
Of course Nadal plays an amazing tennis. But regarding the overall performance and the rallies, I tend to say that Federer's tennis is sharper, more agressive and he gets to achieve his ideas more easily than Nadal.
Which makes Nadal's performance even more impressive, because he is able to play his best tennis in clutch moments while Federer is unable to remain consistent under pressure. Federer seems to win more battles, but he surely didn't win the war.
And in a sense, this what I tremendously appreciate with Nadal: his ability to overcome situations where he is not dominating his opponent.
Nadal was hitting with such great depth & power in the last few games of the final set.
This match has way better shotmaking from Federer than I remember. Didn't go to 5 sets but still some excellent shots. And of course this is the match with his coolest ballkid catch.
Federer should have won that match. I Think the factor here was The mental thing. The 2009 AO final too. Federer was playing really good but The mental factor was determinant.
That's what made his 2017 win so legendary... coming back from so many months out and then beats nadal in the final being a break down in the 5th, you never saw that before from Fed.
There is no thing as such as, nobody cares about that, win or lose
This was peak defensive Rafa . He couldnt compete with either Federer on Djokovic on non-clay courts after coz his body couldn't sustain the defensive tennis
His last major tournament at his peak was Australia Open 2014, after the physical injury in the final something caused his physical level to decline even though RG later won. Let's say that the best Nadal at his physical peak is close to the best Djokovic and Federer.
This Nadal would demolish Sinner or Alcaraz
Sinner might just be the next Djokovic so I'm not so sure about that but yes this version of Nadal beats Alcaraz easily.
It's crazy how strong recency bias is. Prime Sinner is as good as Prime Murray at best. Sorry. Don't compare big 3
Prime Murray has 3 GSs, 1 ATP FINALS and 14 masters 1000, 1 year end number 1. Sinner is very close tô Murray. In GSs, Alcaraz has surpassed Murray. But Alcaraz first GS was easier (without the big 3 in the final).
@@cagedfighterwildlife1484prime Murray is better than Federer
@@Fraudkovic 🤣🤣
I wish federer made his racket change and made his backhand aggressive sooner maan
Unbelievable level of skill
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One of Nadal’s finest baseline performances to neutralize a great-playing Federer
This match is very very similar to Wimbledon 2019 semis between the two. First set Tiebreak won by FED. Then second set, RAFA wins convincingly (also FED just lets it go.) But the 3rd and 4th set is the key difference. FED was way more mentally stronger in Wimbledon 2019 compared to AUS OPEN 2012, because he had switched his racket and beaten Nadal at AUS 2017, IW 2017, Miami 2017, Shanghai 2017. He knew NADAL was only a threat on clay. On other surfaces, he could beat him. That mentality is what was missing at AUS OPEN 2012. I think FED had his chances in this semi, he could have won it. But NADAL just wouldn't go away......
Last point was same with AO2009, out.
Rafa's reaction is almost the same, except he didn't fall flat on his back
Crazy how sudden Nadal's decline happened. 2022 he was on a crazy streak and then after Roland Garros, his body fell apart and he never recovered.
In the quarterfinals of Wimbledon 2022, in the match with Fritz, he had an abdominal pain that prevented him from serving. Instead of retiring, he continued playing, there were 5 sets and a final tiebreak, he epically won that match but the result was that he could not play. the semifinal against Kirgios and from then on he could not fully recover, he returned but was no longer the same.
Nadal used to pepper federer’s backhand so much maan
He was a one-trick man with Fed and unfortunately that won him many key matches. Djoker was able to neutralize with a weaker forehand, but a much stronger backhand.
Imagine if Federer had a double handed backhand?
I wonder if that extra kinda something you get from the left arm could have made a difference?
I know his single hand backhand is insane and looks cool but….
It’s Federer. If he did have double handed he’d be also crazy good at that. Maybe he would have won like 3 or 5 more slams who knows
Too much aggression at the net by Fed... He could have won otherwise
Full match please
blue clay hardcourt since 2008 ... Federer had to adapt with slower courts. that's why he never won US Open since 2008. Baseliner like Nadal and Djokovic love this one
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come on，man！ Don't make excuses！
Novak is the best hard court player of all time
Of course, it's the same as clay, that's why Nadal has 14 RG, 13 Australia and 12 UO, hahaha
Wow, amazing match, incredible shotmaking from both Federer and Nadal, Nadal was just mentally stronger than Federer in the important moments, and gave Federer tons of trouble from the backhand side. But who would have thought that the next match Nadal played (against Djokovic) we would be witnessing one of the greatest and longest matches in tennis history, almost six hours of incredible resilience and shotmaking! I miss this aggresive and scintillating tennis, better than Sinner and Alcaraz.
Watch the Sinner vs Alcaraz match in the quarterfinals of the Us Open 2022, it is one of the greatest matches in history due to quality, power and speed of shots, I recommend it.
@cocolatin1 I saw it live in person at the US Open, I was there, I will never forget it, was an amazing match, thanks for your recommendation! I live in NY, so come almost every year to see US Open. I think that match lasted more than five hours and ended around 2AM, it was quite remarkable! I also remember watching the 2019 US Open final between Nadal and Medvedev in person, another match for the ages. I regret for not seeing in person the 2011 US Open semis between Federer and Djokovic and then the 2011 US Open final between Djokovic and Nadal, the semis was a match for ages. But, I agree with you, the Alcaraz/Sinner 2022 US Open Quarterfinals and the 2019 Nadal and Medvedev final are right up there amongst the best ever matches played at the US Open. I do miss Federer and Nadal, and it's a pity they never played each other at the US Open. I loved watching on TV their 2008 Wimbledon Final. Too early to tell, but I have faith in Alcaraz and Sinner to do amazing things in tennis history, could possibly be the next Federer Nadal or Djokovic Federer rivalry, we shall see.
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Nadal is the GOAT
Great match from Nadal!
Prime nadal is better than fed on hc
Nice joke
The court seems so slow, almost like clay
Slowest hard courts are faster than fastest clay. From 2012 to 16 AO was slow but then from 2017 onwards it is the fastest of all slam courts
When rafa wins in hard court, it's slow ? 😂
Zzzzzzzzz. Federer fans have been using that excuse for nearly 20 years when it comes to Nadal.
@@Laland_1196 It is indeed slow and there's data to prove it
@@Laland_1196 Yes this court was so fast, as evidenced by the quick matches full of short points in this tournament like Djokovic Vs. Nadal (only 6 hours) and Djokovic Vs. Murray (only 5 hours).
Prime Nadal > Prime Fed
Brilliant shotmaking by Federer, Nadal got through this match by the skin of his teeth!
This Nadal would demolish 2017 Federer
In your dreams
Not really, when fed changed his racket to the bigger frame 97 from 95 if not mistaken, he beat nadal the whole year 😂😂😂😂
@@andreandree4384 do you know to read I sad prime Nadal this version
He wouldn't demolish 2017 Fed as Fed was more impressive against Rafa in 2017 than before. 2012 Rafa would still win I think though as 2012 Rafa was for sure a level (maybe more) above 2017 Rafa and 2017 Rafa was a break ahead of Fed in that 5th set. 2012 Rafa was also physically superior to 2017 Rafa and capable of better defending on hardcourts, extracting more errors and staying in points longer, which was a big part of his game. Not a chance does 2012 Rafa get smoked 6-1 in a set by 2017 Fed either like happened in that 3rd set of 2017.
I wouldn't say destroy but I definitely think Nadal would've won in 4 sets simply because 2012 Nadal would've been too fast and physically much stronger than 2017 Federer.
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This is why i ll never be a Nadal fan, he was a "so dirty player" grunting , fist pumping , yelling for every points... i can't believe this behavior is admitted in a competition match ...
Rafa's entire gameplan was to hammer Fed's backhand. Too easy for him at times. That one Achilles heel overshadowed Fed's better serve, volley and forehand.
Where are those Federer fans now, talking Nadal can't play good on hard court, definitely better than Federer😂
When it played like a clay court he did ok yeah. Now go and watch 2017
Not after 2014, Federer became better
Yeah yeah of course Nadal is better than Federer in Hard courts. That is why Federer in hard courts :- 11 grand slams while
Nadal in hard courts:- 6 grand slams.
@@lalasingh3443 Federer enjoyed slam success before the arrival of Nadal and djokovic.thats why he has 11 hard slams
@@Laland_1196 So do you agree that Federer was past his prime when this match was played and Federer was 5 years older than Nadal. So whatever Federer did was magical because of his age.
Federer was joke against prime Nadal
Nadal was a joke against prime Djokovic
@princemay73 Are you watched their 2012 final of AO, they are in prime there and its very close match. If you compare that match with this its a serious joke, Federer was not even close of beating Rafa
@@miljkoni3404everyone knows Novak’s performances became better and better since then while Nadal (obviously through injuries) deteriorated
So, 2012 was not Djoko’s prime years
@@princemay73 yeah djokovic prime start was in 2011
@@princemay73Djokovic's physical prime was without a doubt 2011. His endurance and stamina that year was insane.
This match alone proves how much better nadal and GOATvak are than frauderer.
I agree that Nadal and Djokovic are better, but wouldn't call Federer a fraud just because
Nadal was better than Federer outside of clay in 2009 2010,11,13(may be 12) other years he was inferior outside of his favorite surface
@@Mike-sj1jv false, nadal better on every surface expcete grass(which is a tossup) Lol
@HehoiHehoi 0 Atp finals way less hardcourt titles negative h2h record against both Roger and Novak outside of clay. Also he was never better than Federer on indoor HC
@@Mike-sj1jv indoor HC is trash anyways LMAO overrated and no big tournaments are indoor only small 250: Roger is 250 champ 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This the true list of rankings in Tennis:-
1) Djokovic
2) Sampras
3) Federer/ Nadal/ Borg/ Rod Laver
So number one is the guy who can't overhead, volley, or slice? Nice joke 😂
Nadal 14 RG, Sampras 14 GS. hahaha
@@initialize21 aww 40-15 Loserer fan kiddo. That too 3 times🤣🤣🤣
@@cocolatin1 you are a kiddo, Sampras retired at 31, Nadal can never play good on faster courts. Nadal has a poor record in Wimbledon losing to over 100 rated players and non-rated players for consecutively 5 years🤣🤣🤣
@@lalasingh3443 Nadal 22 GS, 36 M1000, 2 gold medals. Pistola Sampras: 14 GS 11 m1000, 0 gold medals hahahahaha