Jacob Markstrom has *FINALLY* been dealt! What are YOUR thoughts on this final trade? Who do YOU got as the winners? NJ OR Calgary? Let me know #GravGang!!
Honestly i think everyone was over valuing Markstorm. 34 years old with 2 years left. Flames got a young Defensive Defensemen and a 1st round pick! How many goalies at 34 are gonna get you a 1st round pick?
Honestly. This is solid for both teams. I didn’t predict Calgary to get more than a 1st for markstrom. If it was 2 years ago maybe. But last two seasons was a combined 900 save percentage albeit a pretty heavy workload. Is this guy a good fit for New Jersey probably. There goaltending blew last year. Calgary getting even a bottom 4 def that is defensive and young on top of a 1st is pretty solid.
I'm a Devils fan. His age is an issue. He's def a short term solution. I love Bahl. But he's limited in value. He's good. But a piece that can be replaced. The 1st round pick stings, but was offset by the retained salary of Markstrom. It's a win for both team. Calgary can build for the future. The Devils can contend ASAP which is the goal.
@@NightmareMan31 I would say in normal circumstances that Calgary won the trade. But you guys needed an upgrade in net desperately. And ullmark would have costed an arm and a leg
Been a flames fan since I was born and I like this trade even though could of been bigger and better for my flames. A 1st in either 25' or 26' and a 23 big Dman with potential is a good deal for Marky. Good luck in jersey Jacob
I like this for Calgary. They have gained SIZE...Miromanov, and Bahl. Plus a guy like Adam Klapka probably playing next year. Markstrom wanted out, and had a no trade clause which limited what Conroy could do. Now Wolf gets a real shot, and hopefully Vladar comes back healthy. I think hes better than last season showed.
Great Video, as usual, Nathan. Like we didn't see this coming. LOL. It's very underwhelming, but, I guess his asking out of Calgary, they didn't have much of leverage.
As an oiler fan this is a W for Calgary imo. Goalies always seem to get traded for less than expected. They can run a classroom and wolf tandem and pick in the lottery next year. If I was New Jersey I take the pick on a forward. The team is still so young and they already have two really good young defensemen. Don’t rush the process too much.
Spot on video. I do feel both teams win here. I really wanted Ullmark instead of Markstrom. But Markstrom is a huge upgrade from what we had. I loved Bahl and hate seeing him go. But he was limited in true value. Meaning he could be more easily replaced than you could a goaltender. The 1st round pick stung a little, until seeing the salary Calgary retained. Markstrom gives the Devils a few seasons to really contend. Hes a short term solution. But they need to contend ASAP. Calgary gets a decent player in Bahl and a draft pick to build towards their future. I dont see a real loser here.
Very stoked to have Markstrom play for the Devils. Even if we didn't get him, I was still happy we had Jake Allen, so this makes me extra pumped! I also really didn't like Bahl that much either.
Really like the deal for the Devils. Not overspending for a very serviceable goaltender. Bahl was the odd man out if the Devils can acquire a stay at home top-4 defenseman.
Yeah as a Flames fan I think this is as good as you could reasonably expect. Most Flames fans think this is a bad trade but given how neutral fanbases consider it pretty even I think that's a pretty good indication.
Mission accomplished for both teams really. Not the best goalie available, underwhelming return for Calgary but he’s off the roster and won’t be a distraction and Calgary can focus on tanking
Win win for everyone Calgary gives wolf a opportunity and gains a first and a young dman to help the retool and New Jersey gets their starting goalie that they been looking for
Yeah, Fitzgerald did well here without having to give up any real key pieces or that 10th overall pick for Markstrom with salary retained. I do think NJ definitely needs to pick up one or two Ds in free agency, then they’ll be all set for this year.
Comparable to trade for markstrom was Smith to Calgary. Both old often injured inconsistent goalie. Both can go for Elite steaks. Smith just got a third and ahl player. So Calgary did fantastic
@@GravitehHockey both are in reach with 13 mil in cap space and some assets in Holtz Foote and even Willman. Oh not to mention a top 10 pick this year. Thats bonkers
Devils fan here yes we have cause we needed a goalie like markstrom But the 1st rounder could be something Also happy for bahl to have a fresh start with calgary i feel he will be good for them
So a goalie is worth more than a winger? Ya dont say And Kane pretty much screwed the B'Hawks over and said he'd only go to the Rangers. Chicago did him a favor when they shouldn't have and the Rangers were dumb to give up even a 2nd for him.
I’m a devils season-ticket holder and a diehard fan, but this trade is not great for us. Our defense is horrendous so no matter who we get without a addressing the defense first it’s not gonna matter the goalies are gonna have 40 shots on them per game. Mainly Markstrom is way too old.
I was with until the way too old comment. Don’t you guys have 3 young goalie prospects? NJ does need a Dman or two, but Marky will be a huge improvement.
Eh, I don't think Markstrom is worth a 1st round pick anymore but with Calgary retaining that much cap It's not a bad deal. I expect NJ to be really good next season so it's a late pick anyways.
Insane return for a 34yo goalie who hasn't been great for a couple seasons now. First and a good young player is... a lot. Nashville could probably get 3 firsts for Saros if this is the goalie market right now.
You’re obviously ignoring statistically websites with that argument. Marky is 34 soon 35 at 4 mil/season that’s a steal for a first and a c prospect. Bahl is huge but does not involve himself physically = big mistake. Check puck empire and read the comments. Big W for NJ. That first will be a late round first pick.
Every single Devils fan would sign for Markstrom to be good for 3 years. When is next years 1st which is likely to be atleast in the 20s going possible contribute for Calgary? 2029? I think non-Devils fans dont realize just how bad our goaltending was last season. If Markstrom can do exactly what he did on a bad Flames team, the Devils are going to be a top 10 team next year easily.
What? So not only does Calgary have to pay for a 10 million a season millstone around our necks, we also have to pay partial for a goalie who isn't even playing on our side any more? Feels like we're getting shafted.
@@pipoj5u got a soft defensive dman nd a pick that’s two years down da road, that is also top 10 protected, for the best player on your team. Not a good deal I’m srry
Devils got fleeced. Markstrom is old and overrated. Has been meh three of the last four seasons, going to a worse defensive team. Calgary probably going to end up with a 2026 lottery pick out of this if NJ thinks Markstrom will solve their piss poor defense.
Umm the pick is top 10 protected and you forgot to mention the 32 percent retained and the signing bonus owed on July 1st to Markstrom....best get back to franchise mode casual
piss poor defense is a choice to describe Hamilton, Hughes, Nemec (and even Siegenthaler, and Marino when they're slotted in correctly). Devils have $16m cap space to still make a move. Will probably get a solid defender as well. Goaltending was the main issue with injuries the second issue last season. Markstrom solves the biggest issue
@@NJDevilsF4N 18th in shots against and 24th in expected goals against is piss poor. Markstrom won't save you from that. He had worse numbers the last two years than Vanacek did last year. Hamilton has had two healthy seasons in the past five years. Hughes and Nemec are both 21/20 and not good at defending. Your only hope is that Jack Hughes stops being made of glass to survive a season with both shoulders intact.
Jacob Markstrom has *FINALLY* been dealt! What are YOUR thoughts on this final trade? Who do YOU got as the winners? NJ OR Calgary? Let me know #GravGang!!
Well there you go
Honestly i think everyone was over valuing Markstorm. 34 years old with 2 years left. Flames got a young Defensive Defensemen and a 1st round pick! How many goalies at 34 are gonna get you a 1st round pick?
He’s horribly inconsistent as well
Honestly. This is solid for both teams. I didn’t predict Calgary to get more than a 1st for markstrom. If it was 2 years ago maybe. But last two seasons was a combined 900 save percentage albeit a pretty heavy workload. Is this guy a good fit for New Jersey probably. There goaltending blew last year. Calgary getting even a bottom 4 def that is defensive and young on top of a 1st is pretty solid.
I'm a Devils fan. His age is an issue. He's def a short term solution. I love Bahl. But he's limited in value. He's good. But a piece that can be replaced. The 1st round pick stings, but was offset by the retained salary of Markstrom. It's a win for both team. Calgary can build for the future. The Devils can contend ASAP which is the goal.
@@NightmareMan31 also he only has 2 years left. Enough time to find a replacement. Not too much time to have his age be a serious concern.
@@NightmareMan31 I would say in normal circumstances that Calgary won the trade. But you guys needed an upgrade in net desperately. And ullmark would have costed an arm and a leg
The flames now have enough former devils to fill out a starting lineup 😂
I'm devastated as a flames fan. I'm happy for Jersey and Markstrom to take home a cup
Been a flames fan since I was born and I like this trade even though could of been bigger and better for my flames. A 1st in either 25' or 26' and a 23 big Dman with potential is a good deal for Marky. Good luck in jersey Jacob
How I feel as well! Not the best return in the world, but trading Markstrom was a MUST.
Not a lot of players from that 2022 Flames team left.
Backlund,Coleman
Oh you're right, they've been shedding ever since then
@@mrmr7682miss Coleman in jersey
All of them are going at some point
Coleman from NJ too lol 2021
I like this for Calgary. They have gained SIZE...Miromanov, and Bahl. Plus a guy like Adam Klapka probably playing next year. Markstrom wanted out, and had a no trade clause which limited what Conroy could do. Now Wolf gets a real shot, and hopefully Vladar comes back healthy. I think hes better than last season showed.
Bahl plays like he's 5'7 lol. He's soft af
@@vince8924 He young. Players change style all the time.
Bail plays like a pee wee player lol
Yea Bahl hits here and there but ultimately his size feels wasted
Great move for the devils. Didnt give up much and still have so much cap room to make some more moves
Really wanted Ullmark or Saros but after their contracts are up they are going to want a big pay day
Feels like the Flames and Devils make trades all the time
Devils flames and bruins are literally best buds 😅
I love it Nick, whoever keeps the trades going is on my good side!
Throw San Jose in there.
Good trade for both teams they got what they wanted for a reasonable price
Thats a good trade, calgary gets a young big physical d man and a 1st rounder. Devils get a serious goalie for 2 yrs. Fair trade imo
Great Video, as usual, Nathan. Like we didn't see this coming. LOL. It's very underwhelming, but, I guess his asking out of Calgary, they didn't have much of leverage.
Finally flames got some balls.... 😮
how do you think this effects the return for a potential ullmark trade?
As an oiler fan this is a W for Calgary imo. Goalies always seem to get traded for less than expected. They can run a classroom and wolf tandem and pick in the lottery next year. If I was New Jersey I take the pick on a forward. The team is still so young and they already have two really good young defensemen. Don’t rush the process too much.
Spot on video. I do feel both teams win here. I really wanted Ullmark instead of Markstrom. But Markstrom is a huge upgrade from what we had. I loved Bahl and hate seeing him go. But he was limited in true value. Meaning he could be more easily replaced than you could a goaltender. The 1st round pick stung a little, until seeing the salary Calgary retained. Markstrom gives the Devils a few seasons to really contend. Hes a short term solution. But they need to contend ASAP. Calgary gets a decent player in Bahl and a draft pick to build towards their future. I dont see a real loser here.
Very stoked to have Markstrom play for the Devils. Even if we didn't get him, I was still happy we had Jake Allen, so this makes me extra pumped! I also really didn't like Bahl that much either.
Really like the deal for the Devils. Not overspending for a very serviceable goaltender. Bahl was the odd man out if the Devils can acquire a stay at home top-4 defenseman.
Markstrom is 34 this is a fair trade. The return was never going to be a large as most people predicted.
Yeah as a Flames fan I think this is as good as you could reasonably expect. Most Flames fans think this is a bad trade but given how neutral fanbases consider it pretty even I think that's a pretty good indication.
NoT a "fair trade".
NJ got fleeced....again
FYI, Nikita Okhotiuk signed with CSKA Moscow and will be in KHL next year.
We don't need a winner. Jersey got their goalie and the flames got a first rounder and a big D man they like.
Mission accomplished for both teams really. Not the best goalie available, underwhelming return for Calgary but he’s off the roster and won’t be a distraction and Calgary can focus on tanking
Win win for everyone Calgary gives wolf a opportunity and gains a first and a young dman to help the retool and New Jersey gets their starting goalie that they been looking for
Yeah, Fitzgerald did well here without having to give up any real key pieces or that 10th overall pick for Markstrom with salary retained. I do think NJ definitely needs to pick up one or two Ds in free agency, then they’ll be all set for this year.
3:38 "that means new jersey will have to add somebody"
*Seamus Casey has entered the chat*
There's a possibility they go after zadarov and or tanev who'll be UFAs in a couple days and they're now rumblings that pesce the mix
I think the defenseman that devils should add is Matt grzelyck. He will fit on the lest side and is a good veteran for nemec and Luke Hughes
I’ll be honest. It’s a good deal for both teams. Comparing to the Dubois trade this one is great.
Sharks got Ty Dellandrea for a fourth round pick what do you think? I instantly thought of you hope your doing good 👍 😊
Honestly I like the bet for them! Gonna miss Ty's ace on the Stars bottom line
Comparable to trade for markstrom was Smith to Calgary. Both old often injured inconsistent goalie. Both can go for Elite steaks. Smith just got a third and ahl player. So Calgary did fantastic
Coukd they use the 10 pick to trade now??
I mention that in the vid Justin, absolutely think they will!
New jersey won the deal short term but cgy for the rebuild long term
Good return for Calgary.
Hey it was time, I feel Conroy did fine with what he got for Jacob I let the first shot in 50% of the time Markstrom.
I think this is definitely a win for Calgary
A first rd pick is a first rd pick reguardless if its this year or next
Flames got a good deal for a guy who wanted to be traded
NJ getting another former Vancouver goalie. Let’s see what else Fitz has in store.
Alec Martinez would be a good pick up for the Devs
No video on Darcy kuemper and PLD trade?
That was a lose-lose for everyone involved.
The best thing is the devils still have their top ten pick. Let's get a top six forward for Jack Hughes!
100%! Either a top 6er or top 4 D, Tommy is going to continue to be busy!
@@GravitehHockey both are in reach with 13 mil in cap space and some assets in Holtz Foote and even Willman. Oh not to mention a top 10 pick this year. Thats bonkers
The Devils definitely won this trade easily
Devils fan here yes we have cause we needed a goalie like markstrom
But the 1st rounder could be something
Also happy for bahl to have a fresh start with calgary i feel he will be good for them
Nah it’s even bro because your either getting vezina marky or 1 shot 2 goals marky💀
Bro did u say Columbus at 1:52 ?? Lmao
OOPS
Ohio is rent free in my mind
I was hoping the kings were in play
Cgy has very few players left from trelivings era
Devils want a top
Forward to put with Hughes
Calgary got more for Markstrom than Chicago got for Patrick Kane. I think they did well in this trade all things considered.
Kane had 2 months left and they let him go to a playoff team I think we’re talking about 2 different things bud
So a goalie is worth more than a winger? Ya dont say
And Kane pretty much screwed the B'Hawks over and said he'd only go to the Rangers. Chicago did him a favor when they shouldn't have and the Rangers were dumb to give up even a 2nd for him.
Tom Fleecegerald
Tommy strikes again!!
Yeah, like in Sharangovich Toffoli trade😂
Ye why don’t u take a look at the sharangovich trade. Give it some time and flames gunna be on the better side of this.
Calgary avoids the signing bonus not columbus buddy
2 years ago, the Flames would have needed to give up assets to offload Markstrom. So in that sense, any return is a win
I was really hoping for a little more
based on what precedent?
@@BrodyYYC with the retention I'd hope that the pick at least wasn't protected
@@FlamesEnjoyer it doesn't really matter though because the pick won't be in the top 10.
@@FlamesEnjoyer the pick won't be in the top 10 anyways though.
I’m a devils season-ticket holder and a diehard fan, but this trade is not great for us. Our defense is horrendous so no matter who we get without a addressing the defense first it’s not gonna matter the goalies are gonna have 40 shots on them per game. Mainly Markstrom is way too old.
I was with until the way too old comment. Don’t you guys have 3 young goalie prospects? NJ does need a Dman or two, but Marky will be a huge improvement.
Why i feel the Flames got robbed ?
Was hoping for Holtz coming bsck to CGY
Devils got a good deal
Eh, I don't think Markstrom is worth a 1st round pick anymore but with Calgary retaining that much cap It's not a bad deal. I expect NJ to be really good next season so it's a late pick anyways.
GIVE US STAMKOS now!!!
Not a fan of the trade. Shouldve been Nolan Foote,extra pick. Devils need size and physicality but hey keefe and fitzy are clueless
Ridiculous to bring Keefe into this troll
You clued if you think bahl played the body height doesn’t mean tough
now they can trade Kadri, Hubradeau, Anderson and Weegar
Weegar and Huberdeau not a chance. They need veterans like that to play with the new prospects
@@HenryHoolington maybe keep weegar, but I definately get rid of hubradeau and Kadri
@@rayflojenkins8689 Who’s gonna teach all the 18 year olds to play hockey, and who will they play with?
And …..,PLD just got traded
I thought Gibson was a better choice for NJ but there ya go.
Insane return for a 34yo goalie who hasn't been great for a couple seasons now. First and a good young player is... a lot. Nashville could probably get 3 firsts for Saros if this is the goalie market right now.
What r u even talking about 922 sav % and a 2.62 gaa?? Huhnnn
You’re obviously ignoring statistically websites with that argument. Marky is 34 soon 35 at 4 mil/season that’s a steal for a first and a c prospect. Bahl is huge but does not involve himself physically = big mistake. Check puck empire and read the comments. Big W for NJ. That first will be a late round first pick.
He was pretty great in 2023-24, I feel like it's pretty great for both sides
@@raidmommy everybody saying big W for NJ with the Toffoli trade as well. Turns out you can't believe everything you read on the internet.
look at Jfresh
To me, Flames lost this due to the retention. Why the retention?
Markstrom isn't that great.
Wow, way to answer your own question
@@HenryHoolington Flames make some really bad trades.
@@eddiethepizzahero oh yeah, like what?
@@eddiethepizzaheroway to back that comment up ….
@@jeffgibeau1424 how ya likin' that Jonathan HuberDOH! LOL
Flames smoked them,he's 34 ,he's got maybe 3 more good years at best, first round in return, you got smoked,
Every single Devils fan would sign for Markstrom to be good for 3 years. When is next years 1st which is likely to be atleast in the 20s going possible contribute for Calgary? 2029?
I think non-Devils fans dont realize just how bad our goaltending was last season. If Markstrom can do exactly what he did on a bad Flames team, the Devils are going to be a top 10 team next year easily.
is doug dead?
Is Hamilton dead or what?
What? So not only does Calgary have to pay for a 10 million a season millstone around our necks, we also have to pay partial for a goalie who isn't even playing on our side any more? Feels like we're getting shafted.
Markstrom is 35. Let that sink in…
This is absolutely the time for the Flames to take on contracts and add more picks
Now MTL can trade Matheson+ picks + another prospect for 10th overall this year.
Ya Montreal is braindead for sure
@@ryanhillier107 why do you say braindead. You do not think getting the 10th overall pick would be good?
I dunno about that Matheson is pretty solid
Beyond stupid and desperate trade by the devils
Well they were desperate for some NHL caliber goaltending … I don’t think a lottery pick is the plan for NJ.
Markström is old…
Flames should’ve sent him to a retirement home instead
1 year younger than Bobrovsky
@@NothingToPointOut24ahahahahaha. Beauty comment!
Flames won
The Wolf era has officially begun!
Enjoy Bahls defensive fuck ups 😅
No they didn’t
@@martinrosario4018 they sold washed 34 year goalie for a great return they sure as shit did win terrible trade for the devils
@@pipoj5u got a soft defensive dman nd a pick that’s two years down da road, that is also top 10 protected, for the best player on your team.
Not a good deal I’m srry
Devils got fleeced. Markstrom is old and overrated. Has been meh three of the last four seasons, going to a worse defensive team. Calgary probably going to end up with a 2026 lottery pick out of this if NJ thinks Markstrom will solve their piss poor defense.
Umm the pick is top 10 protected and you forgot to mention the 32 percent retained and the signing bonus owed on July 1st to Markstrom....best get back to franchise mode casual
piss poor defense is a choice to describe Hamilton, Hughes, Nemec (and even Siegenthaler, and Marino when they're slotted in correctly). Devils have $16m cap space to still make a move. Will probably get a solid defender as well. Goaltending was the main issue with injuries the second issue last season. Markstrom solves the biggest issue
It's 2025 and top 10 protected 🤡
@@NJDevilsF4N 18th in shots against and 24th in expected goals against is piss poor. Markstrom won't save you from that. He had worse numbers the last two years than Vanacek did last year.
Hamilton has had two healthy seasons in the past five years. Hughes and Nemec are both 21/20 and not good at defending. Your only hope is that Jack Hughes stops being made of glass to survive a season with both shoulders intact.
@@adw6296 it's the Devils, that pick is probably going to end up being 1OA to draft McKenna in 2026
This is not wild. What are you talking about bro