The REAL Grave of Billy The Kid - Old West Fort Sumner, New Mexico

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  • Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
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  • @Zoubirking-1970
    @Zoubirking-1970 3 года назад +130

    Even after death he’s put behind bars to not escape again

    • @darktrooper2099
      @darktrooper2099 3 года назад +1

      *Even though it is rather idiotic.*

    • @RemyJackson
      @RemyJackson 3 года назад +15

      It's because his original headstone was stolen.

    • @jknumber5138
      @jknumber5138 3 года назад +7

      His whole body was stolen. People never touch Bonie and Clyde grave. Only Billy & Jessie James

    • @RemyJackson
      @RemyJackson 3 года назад +5

      @@jknumber5138 it's believed Billy's body was washed away with several others during flooding in the area. That's why it's not known for certain if this is really Billy's grave, someone else's, or possibly even empty. The cage is to prevent thieves and souvenir hunters from either stealing, or damaging the headstone.

    • @valerielofton5781
      @valerielofton5781 3 года назад

      @@darktrooper2099 fff

  • @CosmosTheMouse
    @CosmosTheMouse 3 года назад +227

    Just in case anyone wanted to know, being wanted for $5,000 in 1881when he died would be like $127,000 today.

    • @nikkidimick947
      @nikkidimick947 3 года назад +16

      That's actually interesting information!! Thanks for sharing!

    • @samjeffries6192
      @samjeffries6192 3 года назад +2

      Wow that's a lot !

    • @kenj.8897
      @kenj.8897 3 года назад +15

      Rumor has it Joe Biden is going to be buried there because he's a outlaw too .

    • @samjeffries6192
      @samjeffries6192 3 года назад +2

      @@kenj.8897 omg lol maybe!!

    • @jknumber5138
      @jknumber5138 3 года назад +1

      5:26 said 500 dollars(not 5k)

  • @lorettalerma7487
    @lorettalerma7487 3 года назад +143

    My great great grandfather was killed by Billy the kid . My great great grandfather was the sheriff of Lincoln county his name was William Brady

    • @mikesmith3866
      @mikesmith3866 3 года назад +16

      You should have the oldest person in that line do an ancestry DNA test. It is pretty cool to have verifiable relatives to such notable individuals. My grandmother is 94 and while she isn't related to anyone particular other than a descendant of a mayflower passenger, I can verify DNA ancestors ("cousins") going back to that same era as Brady. You could actually see if you share DNA with the other children of Brady if they show up as shared matches.

    • @jamespearce2622
      @jamespearce2622 3 года назад +27

      Brady was evil

    • @lorettalerma7487
      @lorettalerma7487 3 года назад +5

      And how would you know if he was .

    • @billlozier5551
      @billlozier5551 2 года назад +4

      I'm not sure if I should say sorry or congrats on the fact Billy was infamous to some & a hero to others. Your great great grandfather probably wishes he wasn't on the Kid's list of victims.

    • @jasonchambers2780
      @jasonchambers2780 2 года назад +4

      That is awesome!!!!

  • @JZ505
    @JZ505 3 года назад +133

    I think about all those miles and miles traveled riding a horse in the snow, rain and sun. Tough people in those times. I love my New Mexico! 505/575!

  • @jamesdalton7191
    @jamesdalton7191 3 года назад +27

    Never in a million years did a kid named Billy, ever imagine how famous he would be so far into the future long after he was dead. 😎

    • @Bryan-xe6dw
      @Bryan-xe6dw 3 года назад +5

      Just like the quote from Young Guns when he said "I'll make you famous" he probably never thought he was referring to himself.

  • @davebrewer9279
    @davebrewer9279 3 года назад +15

    I’ve been to so many of the places you visit. I love your channel! My grandpa was a history buff and as a kid he took me to hundreds of old west graveyards. This was in the early 70’s so many of those places are completely erased from existence now. Old pony express relay stations were just allowed to be paved as interstate 15 grew ever wider but I will never forget. Billy’s grave has enough notoriety to survive and I’m grateful for that.

  • @johnellis6615
    @johnellis6615 2 года назад +29

    I was on a Greyhound bus and it stopped there.. I couldn't believe it I thought Billy the kid was so good at escaping they put a jail cell around his grave

    • @evanpatterson7098
      @evanpatterson7098 Год назад +1

      That was the only way he'd stay in a jail cell.

    • @greek1237
      @greek1237 Год назад +1

      The cage was really build because people keep stealing the Kids headstone. After a while you get tired of replacing it. Makes for a good story though.

  • @taekorndo
    @taekorndo 3 года назад +70

    I’m originally from New Mexico and people are always amazed when I tell them that it snows out there! 😂 If you want to visit somewhere really cool, visit Lincoln NM where the Lincoln County Wars happened. Without giving anything away, there’s some awesome historical buildings and artifacts pertaining to Billy the Kid there! Hope you both have a great time in the Land of Enchantment!

    • @iamdash143
      @iamdash143 3 года назад +3

      Also from New Mex and yeah it snows alot in some places lol

    • @HavenBurrell
      @HavenBurrell 3 года назад +5

      Born and raised here in Albuquerque. It crack me up when people ask what is Mexico like when I say I'm from New Mexico...😒😂

    • @michaelhill7878
      @michaelhill7878 3 года назад +1

      Taos? Great skiing.

    • @bigstepper5100
      @bigstepper5100 3 года назад +1

      It’s weird it’s bipolar out here

    • @mw2swrosa
      @mw2swrosa 2 года назад

      And no one needs a passport to come to NM. I'm from here also. People in the Midwest still think we live old school.

  • @mindypugh1701
    @mindypugh1701 2 года назад +18

    The parents of Pat Garrett are from my hometown in Louisiana. His parents are buried here & they recently put a historical marker where his home place once was.

  • @frankflores3187
    @frankflores3187 3 года назад +3

    Billy Rocks!! Thank you guys!!! I am a 44 yr old young man. young guns is as far my favorite movie ever!!! Love your informative work and please don't stop!!!!

  • @antoniodelgado1516
    @antoniodelgado1516 3 года назад +48

    Oh course it snows in New Mexico.
    It gets freakn cold at night.

    • @darktrooper2099
      @darktrooper2099 3 года назад +2

      *No more than it does in the northern part of the U.S.*

    • @tweaky7692
      @tweaky7692 3 года назад +2

      it be mad cold here

    • @alexaviergalvan3543
      @alexaviergalvan3543 3 года назад

      Fr tho

    • @richardarchuleta3200
      @richardarchuleta3200 3 года назад +1

      Yup gets into the negatives at times. Where I work of of 550 the elevation is actually higher than Denver, Co

  • @brianmcnary3960
    @brianmcnary3960 Год назад +32

    Billy was not an outlaw , he was a freedom fighter.

    • @voyagein2thecoreofthenight700
      @voyagein2thecoreofthenight700 11 месяцев назад +5

      he was a thug and a murderer, if he was black you would be the first to point that out.

    • @Purplesolace
      @Purplesolace 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@voyagein2thecoreofthenight700?

    • @eya3456
      @eya3456 10 месяцев назад

      wow you jump to conclusions pretty quick huh?@@voyagein2thecoreofthenight700

    • @papie7627
      @papie7627 9 месяцев назад

      One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist

    • @S0MA9000SERIES
      @S0MA9000SERIES 5 месяцев назад

      I think the movies depict him that way.

  • @camrync4210
    @camrync4210 3 года назад +29

    I love seeing peoples reactions when they come to New Mexico, it kinda makes me appreciate my home a little more

    • @alexaviergalvan3543
      @alexaviergalvan3543 3 года назад +1

      Fr tho 🙌🏽

    • @chisox1085
      @chisox1085 3 года назад +3

      Im from chicago but ive always wanted to go to new mexico

    • @keenankelley187
      @keenankelley187 3 года назад +1

      Where’s your home In New Mexico? Family started the town of Moriarty.

    • @michaelhill7878
      @michaelhill7878 3 года назад +2

      Yeah, one of my favorite colloquial sayings in New Mexico is, "it is more fun than bowl of Green Chili Stew in front of a bunch of hungry tourists."

    • @alexaviergalvan3543
      @alexaviergalvan3543 3 года назад +1

      I’m from Gallup, NM 🔥

  • @thumper62973
    @thumper62973 3 года назад +20

    Pat Garrett is located at masonic cemetery in Las Cruces, NM.. I've visited his grave since I was a kid, since I live 6 houses down from the haunted cemetery.. we've had many famous ghost hunters come down and film big sets at night.. we have a beautiful area across the street, were all the headstones are dated in 1800's..

    • @clhwhiffleball4418
      @clhwhiffleball4418 3 года назад

      Pat,are we friends?"
      "Yes"
      Little did he know

    • @supportyourtroopsathletes6460
      @supportyourtroopsathletes6460 3 года назад +2

      I hate the Garrett family all together

    • @clhwhiffleball4418
      @clhwhiffleball4418 3 года назад +1

      @@supportyourtroopsathletes6460 just cause they killed Billy? Same. If Billy the Kid lived for another 10 years they would of made more Young Guns

    • @ccr4754
      @ccr4754 3 года назад

      My mother-in-law did her family ancestry. She found, from both her grandparents, that they were related to Patricia Garrett, also, Davy Crockett. Yes, she found documents, pictures that did lead up to her family history. Very interesting.

  • @christopherstimpson6540
    @christopherstimpson6540 3 года назад +81

    The Billy the Kid museum is actually very good. They have his old pistol and rifle and hundreds of other artifacts. There is a large rock he carved "Billy Kid" into. I was amazed. Lots of historic Native American artifacts too. Well worth the small entrance fee. They also have a tourist shop with some fun things for the kids and clothes for adults.

    • @mjphoto45
      @mjphoto45 3 года назад

      I'm not going to look at a criminal

    • @chrisdesisanville3587
      @chrisdesisanville3587 3 года назад +2

      @@mjphoto45 cause your a beauty!!!

    • @Nigtarr99
      @Nigtarr99 3 года назад +6

      @@mjphoto45 even though you are watching a video about the "criminal"

    • @winterweib
      @winterweib 3 года назад +5

      @@mjphoto45
      I wouldn't, too.
      But this is Billy the Kid.
      I would love to express my compassion for this nice young man, which was murdered by injustice.

    • @sassytbc7923
      @sassytbc7923 3 года назад +1

      This is a really interesting place. Who knew a place linked this would be in the middle of nowhere..

  • @HoldSimp
    @HoldSimp Год назад +4

    I have always loved the idea that Billy the kid did surviving and becoming a old man and grandfather, he lived his last days at peace telling his stories to his grandkids.....

    • @Mark-Williams555
      @Mark-Williams555 День назад +1

      He did survive, he died in Hico Texas december 27th 1950.

  • @1988banker
    @1988banker 3 года назад +7

    I really enjoyed this presentation on Billy the Kid! Imho the best historians bring history to life. You present things in a very vibrant way. Keep up the great work!!! 😎

  • @whatsthedealwithdanny3913
    @whatsthedealwithdanny3913 3 года назад +29

    The spot where he actually died has a marker just a couple hundred yards or so from the grave. The marker is just in a field, but it is where the Maxwell House once stood.

  • @daniel4435
    @daniel4435 3 года назад +37

    There are actually 2 authenticated photos of billy the kid. The first one is the famous one everyone knows and the second one he is playing croquet with everyone in his gang in front of a house. It was authenticated a few years ago

    • @bmeeseeks2881
      @bmeeseeks2881 3 года назад +5

      I think recently a third one emerged.

    • @filipd2910
      @filipd2910 3 года назад +6

      The one with him playing croquet is confirmed to be authentic

    • @fourtysevennn
      @fourtysevennn 2 года назад +3

      isnt there one where he is playing cards? and the other photo where he is pictured sitting behind the guy that later on kills him?

    • @daniel4435
      @daniel4435 2 года назад +1

      @@bmeeseeks2881 cool, I haven't heard about that one. But I'd love to check it out

  • @tammyandrew7399
    @tammyandrew7399 3 года назад +120

    I think it's great that even in death nobody still really knows where he is. I think he would have wanted it that way.

    • @rjskum688
      @rjskum688 3 года назад +4

      Just another money making scheme.

    • @ghostface8443
      @ghostface8443 3 года назад +4

      In a way Billy escaped.

    • @supportyourtroopsathletes6460
      @supportyourtroopsathletes6460 3 года назад +4

      The Government won't allow DNA testing much like in John Wilkes Booth case. This can be all confirmed putting inmt in our past but the Government does not want to change history at all . Booths case for sure

    • @supportyourtroopsathletes6460
      @supportyourtroopsathletes6460 3 года назад

      @Ellie5621 I agree thank you.

    • @keetahbrough
      @keetahbrough 3 года назад +4

      Same with Crazy Horse, who is someone who means a lot to native people.

  • @jamesjackjones7548
    @jamesjackjones7548 2 года назад +3

    Actually, Billy the kid is not in any of his graves. He was buried in the old Fort Sumner graveyard. There was a flood that came through and washed all those graves out. The headstone there today it’s just a memorial marker, the whereabouts of Billy‘s bones ate unknown.

  • @samuelfallis2618
    @samuelfallis2618 3 года назад +8

    I live by Fort Sumner. When you pointed at the cow in the field I laughed extremely hard lol!! We love going down to the Pecos river by Billy’s grave.

    • @danieldixon4568
      @danieldixon4568 3 года назад

      Does Melanie the radio girl in Clovis still live there?

    • @samuelfallis2618
      @samuelfallis2618 3 года назад +1

      Daniel dixon Sorry I’m not sure . Just moved to Clovis from Ruidoso and now looking to live at Sumner Lake.

    • @danieldixon4568
      @danieldixon4568 3 года назад

      @@samuelfallis2618 listen to the commercials on 99.9 FM. She is the person who makes them and is super awesome. If you meet her make friends.

  • @follkiej
    @follkiej 3 года назад +13

    Love this series you Grimms are doing! Thank you folks!

  • @s.h3103
    @s.h3103 3 года назад +9

    Great video as always!!! Very happy with all the content that is coming more frequently!

  • @markschlingloff5155
    @markschlingloff5155 3 года назад +14

    Hell yeah, The Land of Enchantment. I had no idea that it snows in NM. I also have never seen a cage around a Grave.
    Cool upload.
    Thanks Grimm Life.

    • @grimmlifecollective
      @grimmlifecollective  3 года назад +2

      Thanks for watching Mark

    • @michaelhill7878
      @michaelhill7878 3 года назад +2

      There are numerous Mountains over 10,000' feet high. I got into sleet on Sandia Peak, (Albuquerque) on Memorial Day once.

    • @markschlingloff5155
      @markschlingloff5155 3 года назад

      @@michaelhill7878 New Mexico has wonders I never knew about before now.

  • @johnchitwood8799
    @johnchitwood8799 3 года назад +30

    Charlie Bowdrie and Tom O Folliard were definitley in his gang, the house he was killed in was one story

  • @alexvaldez83
    @alexvaldez83 3 года назад +6

    Love this video. Lots of information and the way you captured every detail on his grave is much appreciated.

  • @joseph7560
    @joseph7560 3 года назад +45

    I've lived in New Mexico all my life. I've had ties with people that had relatives that knew Billy.
    One trustworthy source knows he lived a long life. It will never be proved he's buried there.

    • @supportyourtroopsathletes6460
      @supportyourtroopsathletes6460 3 года назад +10

      Agreed the Government does not want to change History about the truth. I know Billy is not there and the Garrett family is all liars even today

    • @joshuaragon6676
      @joshuaragon6676 3 года назад +4

      @@supportyourtroopsathletes6460 actually that’s partially true. I’ve seen evidence the real Billy was let go by Pat. Him and Pat were actually friends and Pat only became the new sheriff to pretend to kill Billy to get Billy out of the public’s eye. He probably told Billy get out of here and never come back. There’s evidence he fought in I believe a Mexican war. And he died in the 50’s in Texas. One man here in Arizona claimed to be him and there’s a grave of his claiming to be Billy to in Prescott.

    • @joeyclemenza7339
      @joeyclemenza7339 3 года назад

      brushy bill roberts? I dunno... he was a crazy old man who a lot of folks say told conflicting stories. however, it's possible that garrett shot the wrong man, and let billy go to escape a public assault in the press for his failures.

    • @supportyourtroopsathletes6460
      @supportyourtroopsathletes6460 3 года назад +2

      @@joeyclemenza7339 .. I only agree with part of your comment as it sounds like you have did research on the kid but with my intense research not once have I heard about conflicting statements from brushy , at the end of the day. Nobody will ever know the truth as the Government has stopped DNA being taken from the man shot by Garrett whom by the way and I can prove had conflicting stories in his own book and his own words.
      But there is speculation grounds that do indeed make sense that brushy was indeed the kid. Nobody will ever know however. Family ancestry does link Billy's brother to a grave somewhere in Colorado and does link him to a daughter. Where this daughter is burried or how she died, it does not mention. His mother s grave was moved in the same cemetery and a report of flooding of the area was documented as the reason. Speculation on her grave is questionable at best but the ancestry does believe they have the right grave of the mother. So between that all, there is possibility there is enough evidence out there but the Government would need to let scientist do DNA testing. They won't though and the Garrett family owns the museum in front of the reported Billy the kids grave so of course they are stopping any of this from happening themselves but there is absolutely no reason brushys grave can't be but the Government is stopping it much like they are doing John Wilkes Booth.

    • @joshuaragon6676
      @joshuaragon6676 3 года назад +2

      @@supportyourtroopsathletes6460 sadly that’s probably because the federal government had a part in it. John Wilkes Booth was a scapegoat. And the federal government knew of what was happening in Lincoln County (the Murphy-Dolan Ring) But let it slide and just used Billy as the enemy to point the finger at even though Billy wasn’t the problem he was actually like a vigilante imo. Taking down the corruption.

  • @lapislazulii141
    @lapislazulii141 2 года назад +11

    There’s a history of young Irish boys traveling out west alone very young, using aliases,etc. My grandfather was one.

  • @misstakenidenity
    @misstakenidenity 3 года назад +5

    Hubby & I just finished watching Young Guns, although I’ve seen it numerous times, it’s such a great classic. (Yes, I’m old lol) After all these years, I googled his grave & that’s how I found your channel. I’m so glad I did! Thanks for sharing this. I know I’ll never make it out there myself to see it, but I loved being there with y’all. Take care ✌️

  • @j.c.ortega1313
    @j.c.ortega1313 Год назад +2

    Another amazing video brother. Blessings to you guys. What I love about your videos is all the history. You put work into it. Great job.

  • @nikkidimick947
    @nikkidimick947 3 года назад +10

    Aaahhh!! This is only a little over 4 hours from where I'm at in Southern Colorado!!!! So cool!! There is so much history in these areas!

    • @nikkidimick947
      @nikkidimick947 3 года назад

      Also, if you haven't been there, Taos NM is an awesome little town... and San Luis Colorado is a beautiful tiny town with history as well as Fort Garland Colorado :)

    • @oldrestless
      @oldrestless 3 года назад

      Brutal history. What a crazy time, mining wars, outlaws, Indian genocide. It’s interesting how they romanticize westward expansion and the frontier out there but we know what really happened.

  • @familytreenutshistorygenealogy
    @familytreenutshistorygenealogy 3 года назад +22

    This is great. I was definitely born in the wrong time. That’s why we are so passionate about making history videos too.

    • @thomasfranklinhowardjranna3075
      @thomasfranklinhowardjranna3075 3 года назад

      I'm glad I'm not in that family just stalked by them I'm Tom franklin howard jr South river high school93-96

  • @johngurnhill8743
    @johngurnhill8743 3 года назад +8

    The prefect RUclips channel ever, there put passion into there videos much love from England

  • @mechanic_marky
    @mechanic_marky 3 года назад +4

    I came across your videos randomly starting with the Nirvana House one popping up. I just wanted to say i really enjoy them and what you do. I absolutely love this side of history and it's super cool that you go and visit these places and give some backstory behind them. Your Bonnie and Clyde one was very cool showing where they went to school and worked. Thanks again!

  • @robvenables2738
    @robvenables2738 3 года назад +8

    Love your channel!!! You guys always have great content!!! Your intro hands down is the best around!!!!

  • @cmcmcc553
    @cmcmcc553 3 года назад +5

    Thanks for posting this road trip. I always wanted to see all this and been NM several times and didn't make it up there

  • @johnghoul7542
    @johnghoul7542 3 года назад +16

    I've met & got autographs from Kiefer Sutherland & Lou Diamond Phillips

  • @HolyFreakinDragonSlayer
    @HolyFreakinDragonSlayer 3 года назад +5

    I love the little western village. Stay warm out there ☺

  • @teresawommack5148
    @teresawommack5148 3 года назад +18

    The real court, the judge never said that . The judge just sentenced him, never saying till dead dead dead. Billy said nothing,that was just the movie. There was no up stairs. That second story was added two years after Billy's death. The little grave marker was made for the movie Young Guns, and they just kept it and put it on there grave. And yes he did die that night in Fort Sumner. Yes i am a Billy The Kid expert, he did have a short life but he lived it the best he could, and really was well liked by most. Thanks for all the videos, good job.

    • @IndianBeauty02
      @IndianBeauty02 3 года назад

      So it that his real grave, or the grave from the movie?

    • @DW3010
      @DW3010 3 года назад +1

      Thank you so much. I was going to comment I wish this guy wouldn’t get his “historical facts” from the movie young guns 2

    • @jedielectro
      @jedielectro 3 года назад

      in a movie i saw here in new zealand ,many years ago. Pat Garret had tears in his eyes. after shooting Billy. i grew up knowing off Billy the kid. i always had back of my mind. he seek his own justice

  • @jameslookstwice
    @jameslookstwice 3 года назад +8

    Awesome video! Love to you both from Tennessee Cherokee Nation 🖖

  • @jokeroneninesevenzero
    @jokeroneninesevenzero 3 года назад +38

    "Yoo-Hoo! I'll make you famous!"

    • @jameslookstwice
      @jameslookstwice 3 года назад +4

      You can go to hell,hell, hell!lol great movie

    • @jokermebad31
      @jokermebad31 3 года назад +4

      Both of the Young Guns movies with Emilio Estevez are great and awesome. "Regulators let's ride."

    • @goochdawg
      @goochdawg 3 года назад +2

      "Which one of these boy's is fast with the iron?..."

    • @jokeroneninesevenzero
      @jokeroneninesevenzero 3 года назад +3

      @@goochdawg "That be me!"

  • @LukeMackie
    @LukeMackie 3 года назад +22

    Only a few minutes in, but it's crazy to me how much of an effect Billy has had on that part of New Mexico. The man truly was notoriously famous.

    • @billlozier5551
      @billlozier5551 2 года назад

      Hey Luke, I think the reality is that to this day Billy the Kid was notorious to most people but a hero to others. Lol, the legend grows. Personally I think Billy enjoyed having a purpose and being famous was cool. I feel he probably enjoyed a good fight too. lol

    • @colleenbonniwell4226
      @colleenbonniwell4226 Год назад

      Left a memoir ...fought monopolies

    • @wesleycook7687
      @wesleycook7687 Год назад

      @@billlozier5551 Billy is looked upon as a hero because he was pushed into the Lincoln County War and his mentor John Tunstall was murdered. Billy,Dick and Charlie went after the killers. Billy probably killed less than 12 men, mostly crooked lawmen. Chavez was known to be extremely violent and was half Mexican .Billy killed only people like Brady. Those working for Dolan. Murphy died of cancer b. He wasn't shot between the eyes by Billy. Dolan wound up with it all. Murphy's family didn't get anything. Murphy is remembered for pairing up with Dolan . It was an uneasy business deal but their store and Army contracts using John Chisum's rustled cattle turned Chisum against them..Chisum was more powerful than them with 500 ranchers and farmers on his payroll plus hired Gunmen. Dolan and Murphy steered clear of Chisum and rustled cattle off other ranchers..John Chisum looked like James Coburn, the actor that played him in Young Guns ll a lot. Good casting in those movies. The events in those movies actually occurred. The writers just spiced them up a little. The Army did have a Gatlin gun but didn't use it in the seige on McSween's store. McSween was just caught in the crossfire trying to get to his house 2 doors down..When the store was set on fire, Billy and 3 others made it to McSween's house. It was 2 story so it gave them an advantage..The store was just a large log building but burned quickly. McSween's house survived and stood until the early 20th Century. It was partially delapidated but today it's attraction caused city fathers to rebuild it. It looks like the original house. Other buildings on that now street are standing and restoring them makes money. Billy The Kid makes more money today than when he was alive.. There's a channel on U Tube with real pictures of the original buildings and their replacements. Some were moved to farther down the street but basically the street is like it was originally.

    • @whodatn4l948
      @whodatn4l948 9 месяцев назад

      Infamous you mean

  • @GracieLou626
    @GracieLou626 3 года назад +4

    Another place to go is Mount Carmel Cemetery in Chicago where Al Capone is laid to rest. And Graceland Cemetery as well. There's a story of a little girl named inez Clark. And a woman. In white who walks the highway looking to go home. There are burn marks on gate that look like a hand grabbed it. It's very interesting. Love your videos and the history of everything you have shown us. Stay safe.

  • @andrewcole4255
    @andrewcole4255 3 года назад +4

    I grew up in Roswell, NM. But lived in Fort Summer for a few years as a teenager. In fact, I lived in a house right up the road from the location of the grave. I remember hearing about Billy the Kid but didn’t really understand all the history. Thank you for sharing this @grimmlifecollective! It really brought back some memories. 🤠
    Maybe think about visiting Roswell as it’s not too far away, and you know what’s there, right? 👽

    • @justsayin529
      @justsayin529 3 года назад

      What is the over all opinion of the locals of the crash? Maybe someone there saw and remembers what happened. Balloon? Spaceship? Russians?

  • @Big.meatgee
    @Big.meatgee 3 года назад +81

    Talk about being locked up forever. They got jail bars around his grave🤦‍♂️

    • @rder3855
      @rder3855 3 года назад +3

      Of course but he’s not there 😂

    • @shoppingdiva3473
      @shoppingdiva3473 3 года назад +6

      Because someone dug it up once.

    • @MRRiley-ct8my
      @MRRiley-ct8my 3 года назад +1

      They did that 2 mock him because there was not a jail that could hold him back then.

    • @CS-wi1tc
      @CS-wi1tc 3 года назад +1

      Or they're made of iron so he can't pass through them when he rises from his grave as a spirit because Sam and Dean Winchester couldn't handle him.

    • @whiteboyfunksucks
      @whiteboyfunksucks 3 года назад

      @@MRRiley-ct8my no they did it cuz ppl kept messing with his grave

  • @souleater307
    @souleater307 3 года назад +7

    rumor has it that if you leave a bullet on his grave you can get away with one crime. you have to leave it before the crime happens and on a full moon with the bullet soaked in rum. and if you leave a coin from a robbery you have a better chance of getting away.

  • @baffledsquirrel2122
    @baffledsquirrel2122 2 года назад +3

    People should realize you get the memory as the “Gift” you bring home if you wanna call it a gift, don’t break pieces off and stuff that’s so disrespectful people…. Glad you are one of those people respect for not being one of those people. Love the videos keep it up

    • @djjnonya2170
      @djjnonya2170 2 года назад

      What in the world are you talking about?

  • @gabrielrodriguez8301
    @gabrielrodriguez8301 3 года назад +53

    I must correct you sir but when Billy was killed he was unarmed and shot in the dark that is confirmed .

    • @wawoodsman7198
      @wawoodsman7198 3 года назад +5

      According to some.
      Actually Pete Maxwell's ranch hand was shot and killed in the dark.
      Billy escaped that night but never left New Mexico

    • @wawoodsman7198
      @wawoodsman7198 3 года назад +2

      The person shot at Pete Maxwell's house was buried in an unmarked grave at night by Pete's nephew and Pat Garrett

    • @travisgoesthere
      @travisgoesthere 3 года назад

      @@wawoodsman7198 wrong

    • @travisgoesthere
      @travisgoesthere 3 года назад

      @@wawoodsman7198 wrong

    • @daneengatlin5786
      @daneengatlin5786 3 года назад +2

      We all know that Billy escaped and Fort Summer wouldn't allowed Billy to be exhumed to see if his DNA matched his mother's that is buried in Silver City, NM. Of course that would solve the mystery and Fort Summer would lose all that tourist revenue.

  • @aaronfrahm623
    @aaronfrahm623 3 года назад +19

    The hits just keep on coming.
    I'm digging this routine of a new GLC video with my morning coffee.
    Grimm for Life!

    • @grimmlifecollective
      @grimmlifecollective  3 года назад +2

      We are liking it as well. I think we found a time we are happy with.

    • @aaronfrahm623
      @aaronfrahm623 3 года назад +1

      @@grimmlifecollective
      Can't wait to hear all the "behind the scenes" tidbits about your adventure. See ya Sunday night!!

  • @jokersblackbook1792
    @jokersblackbook1792 3 года назад +2

    @grimmlifecollective ur my favorite channel, all the travelin an work u do is insane!! Been binge watchin this channel an its perfect, don't stop what an the way u do what u do!!! Tlk ltr!!!

  • @paulbrooks2024
    @paulbrooks2024 3 года назад +3

    I was there in 1972 , chain linked fence was around the graves then ,thanks for the revisited I was 14 and yes those roads are extremely long.

  • @aliciatsalabutie5948
    @aliciatsalabutie5948 3 года назад +5

    Welcome to New Mexico...the best state to be in where we get almost all sorts of weather here.
    Pueblo of Zuni, New Mexico

    • @grimmlifemodjessica
      @grimmlifemodjessica 3 года назад +1

      Thank you 🥰🥰🥰

    • @Ben-tr
      @Ben-tr 5 месяцев назад

      Alicia :I'm from New Mexico..they said billy loved hatch green chili con frijoles

  • @samjeffries6192
    @samjeffries6192 3 года назад +4

    Billy the kid is my second cousin on my mom's side he would wanted to be buried all the way in Mexico he was amazing the famous outlaw ! Amazing video RIP billy

    • @walmartian348
      @walmartian348 3 года назад

      I ve always said i was kin to Billy the Kid since he is a McCarty which is my moms maiden name except they shortened it to Carty

    • @JeffVader39
      @JeffVader39 Год назад

      Billy the kid is my brother

    • @dirty_money5439
      @dirty_money5439 Год назад

      BTK is my son

  • @mrcaptain9333
    @mrcaptain9333 3 года назад +61

    “If I fits I sits” .... there is a tshirt waiting to be made

    • @grimmlifemodjessica
      @grimmlifemodjessica 3 года назад +1

      Am secretly a cat 🐈‍⬛

    • @genehasenbuhler2594
      @genehasenbuhler2594 3 года назад +2

      Already been done a million times!

    • @Aido2838
      @Aido2838 3 года назад

      "Billy the kid" ill make you famous

    • @heatherthomas1239
      @heatherthomas1239 3 года назад

      He died on my birthday !!

    • @factorybear5264
      @factorybear5264 3 года назад +1

      @@heatherthomas1239 Michael Jackson died on my 29th birthday. I just turned 41 two days ago. Time flies.

  • @mikehatfield3561
    @mikehatfield3561 3 года назад +5

    Welcome to New Mexico ya might visit Lincoln where the war was and where he lived

  • @JanSparkles1
    @JanSparkles1 3 года назад +7

    I am glad you had the chance to visit my state, New Mexico. Yep, it is very rural and peaceful. I laughed when you mentioned the cows in the field. Such a "norm" here, it was just strangely funny when visitors point out the simplest everyday life here. I live in Albuquerque, NM, but grew up on the Navajo reservation. I prefer the hustle and bustle myself, however, love the chance to visit my brothers on the rez just to get away for some peace and quiet. Even Albuquerque may seem slow and quiet for you two, lol!!

    • @deathpoint
      @deathpoint Год назад

      Albuquerque is dangerous

    • @kiddoutlaw600
      @kiddoutlaw600 Год назад

      @@deathpoint it’s dangerous so quite it seems

    • @deathpoint
      @deathpoint Год назад

      @@kiddoutlaw600 it's getting more and more dangerous over time.

  • @TommyGun1979
    @TommyGun1979 3 года назад +9

    Well, one thing is sure though, it's that legends never really die...

  • @JeremyRossiter23
    @JeremyRossiter23 3 года назад +3

    Come down to Lincoln New Mexico, see the courthouse he escaped from

  • @rdrcr_trd2593
    @rdrcr_trd2593 3 года назад +7

    Was an honor to stop by an pay my respects, and even see the grave of one of his victims

    • @outpost31737
      @outpost31737 2 года назад +1

      Paid your respects to a common thief and murderer? Says a lot about you doesn't it.

  • @cheerstofamily8952
    @cheerstofamily8952 3 года назад +11

    I'm from New Mexico! ❤

  • @nicolasrodriguez3499
    @nicolasrodriguez3499 3 года назад +7

    Very cool, unbiased documentary. I love it!

  • @GRORGvideot
    @GRORGvideot 3 года назад +2

    It's snowing and the dude is rocking a leather jacket, I'm speechless. Recently found your channel and watched the Nirvana one, now I'll watch all of these I guess. Great material!

  • @ghostwryteranonymous4910
    @ghostwryteranonymous4910 2 года назад +2

    I used to work here in Eastland, Texas' public works department, parks and cemetery. Josiah "Doc" Scurlock is buried here. Fourteen years ago, my supervisor told me his story of meeting one of Josiah's daughters at his grave. She told him when she was a little girl, she sat on Billy The Kid's lap. So, it appears that Pat did let Billy go and he lived on. I doubt that old woman is still alive today, but the Scurlock family reunites periodically here in Eastland.

    • @doublem3084
      @doublem3084 3 месяца назад

      Been there a couple times now...most recently last month to show my father in law his grave. Hico isn't all that far from Eastland so It's not hard to imagine Brushy Bill Roberts could have been Billy.

  • @michaelhill7878
    @michaelhill7878 3 года назад +5

    Ft. Sumner is not the "middle of nowhere," but you can see it from there. Lived in Albuquerque for 5 years, loved NM.

  • @55judylw
    @55judylw 3 года назад +4

    I loved your video and commentary. I also love that you are young and an old west history fan. I'm 65, waiting for my husband to retire, and making a list of places we will travel. Fort Sumner is at the top of my list! I've been watching Billy the Kid documentaries for days. It is quite the interesting story. Thanks.

  • @dalekosak7611
    @dalekosak7611 Год назад +1

    Another great, informative video. I have been marathon watching these since I discovered them a few weeks ago.

  • @bettyasbury8312
    @bettyasbury8312 3 года назад +2

    Welcome to the Land of Enchantment! Lincoln New Mexico should be on your places to see. Enjoy this great state !

  • @boxerfan2
    @boxerfan2 3 года назад +3

    Ft sumner is also the place the government held american indians. The government made the navajo march 450 miles from arizona to this location.

  • @joeyclemenza7339
    @joeyclemenza7339 3 года назад +8

    billy was allegedly unarmed when pat garrett confronted him, according to I think Paulita Maxwell (his girlfriend) and several others. those just outside his room heard him shout "quen es?" just after he entered it. - which is spanish for "who is it?" it was believed that garrett and billy had a quick 2 minute conversation, and garrett shot him in the back unarmed. whether he was attempting to run out of the room or was simply daring garrett to shoot him, it's unknown. however, several witnesses do claim that he was unarmed.
    also, the other two men he was burried with were tom o'folliard and charlie bowdry - both were killed in the lincoln county war. they were also members of billy's gang of "regulators," or rather the regulators of john tunstill and his ranch and cattle. a regulator was essentially a hired thug that would attack any type of cattle theft on the property they're paid to protect. billy directly served rancher john tunstill. billy, o'folliard, boadrie were actually all deputized along with i think 5 others to hunt down the killers of billy's caretaker john tunstill, who was sadly assassinated by a rival cattle rancher and driver ran by cattle baron lawrence murphy. this was all part of a larger "mafia like" battle for control of the cattle line in new mexico - which was serious money. a lot of corrupt politicians and law men aligned themselves with murphy, and made a lot of money doing so. after deputation, a borderline sociopathic billy the kid instead killed MANY of murphy's men as opposed to serving them with warrants of "suspicion of murder." the biggest killing was the sherrif at the time william brady, whom many thought aligned himself directly to lawrence murphy. this all led up to an all out war on the regulators (who then renounced their deputation) and attempted to flee into mexico via el paso, tx. holding up in lincoln for the night, they were cornered by local militia and the cavalry. this led to what's now known as the lincoln county war. those two men were unfortunately shot and killed in the war, billy escaped and went on the lamb for the next few years. he was reportedly VERY close to both.
    a myth or old wives tale... tell of a strange and mysterious man one night breaking into the cemetery years after billy's murder..... he reportedly chiseled one word on the tombstone that night - PALS. that was allegedly one of billy's most used word. he'd call everyone his pal, especially if he liked you. this lead to rumors of billy actually being alive. and thus, this outlaw myth of the southwest was born.
    and yes... the movie young guns with charlie sheen, emilio estevez, kiefer sutherland and lou diamond phillips is shockingly pretty accurate. not so much the sequel....

  • @rmilkyswife
    @rmilkyswife 2 года назад +1

    Good morning I’m just watching this video and I’ve lived my whole life in New Mexico and yes it snows a lot but not as much as it used to.I have a video of driving down the same road with tons of snow. I had to turn around and go home and do a virtual Dr appointment. It’s good to see you guys in my home state. Love your channel you and Jessica do a amazing job.

  • @andrewherring9239
    @andrewherring9239 2 года назад +1

    When I lived in fort sumner 07-10 every winter it would slow and blizzard loved it

  • @gpcbr1000
    @gpcbr1000 3 года назад +6

    I grew up loving young guns, 1 & 2 . Of course in 2 they talk about brushy Billy Roberts. And that’s always sparked an interest or hope that Pat let him get away.

  • @leonor7239
    @leonor7239 3 года назад +3

    Great video 👍 I am sharing it to friends and famiely

  • @charlescahoon3557
    @charlescahoon3557 Год назад

    When I was young my grandparents moved to Albuquerque for a few years and we would drive out from south of Houston a couple tim3s a year to visit. We would drive through Fort Sumner and catch 66 at Santa Rosa. After that my Dad would just blurt out at random times, “how would you like to be pulling in to old Fort Sumner about now?” Used to crack us up. Back in September I stayed in Tucumcari to start a Route 66 trip east to Springfield Missouri. I couldn’t help but go pull in to old Fort Sumner in Dad’s memory. Felt pretty good.😃

  • @sumatra
    @sumatra 2 года назад +1

    i love that way Jessica does her professional fade in & out of the scenes in some of your vids, such a pro,

  • @symphonycalloway971
    @symphonycalloway971 3 года назад +14

    I went to visit Billy The kids grave with my parents a few years back while traveling through and we went to the grave at 4 in the morning and before we left the cemetery we heard something hit the cage surrounding the grave and while I was filming around the area and rewatched it in the car I heard cowboy boots walking But could not hear anything in person only when i caught it on video.

    • @g18k77
      @g18k77 3 года назад +1

      Video please!!

    • @Nightwriter9331
      @Nightwriter9331 Год назад

      Ain't no way I'm going there at night--or alone!! No sir, no way, no how.

  • @Doggie650
    @Doggie650 3 года назад +8

    You're a great story teller. Really enjoy your videos.
    Question.
    Did you get to see where Kit Carson left the Navajo and Apache that surrendered at Fort Defiance? The tribute to those that died during the failed government experiment?

  • @mikeg884
    @mikeg884 3 года назад +1

    I recently came across your channel. I like your videos. Keep doing what you are doing. These videos are fun to watch. They are a fun way to escape.

  • @barkingmoonranch7836
    @barkingmoonranch7836 2 месяца назад +1

    Man things have changed, it's been 36 years since I've been there

  • @timmoore2496
    @timmoore2496 3 года назад +71

    Love when Chavez gives everyone peyote. Young Guns!!!!

    • @alpatronlhefehajromeromero4345
      @alpatronlhefehajromeromero4345 3 года назад +2

      I always liked that part where the dude takes a double hit.

    • @mr.blonde66milkyway66
      @mr.blonde66milkyway66 3 года назад +4

      Puking off the Red Rocks.... don't make movie's like that anymore.
      Saw that movie when I was 12. I was from a small town riding horses, rope'n, shooting guns and acting like The Billy the Kid gang out in the boonies!!
      Even rode in that area in Utah, saw petroglyphs, and the sight of an Indian massacre, the red paint indian hand prints still on the wall. Moab utah and surrounding area.
      Great memories!! Nothing like being free and riding on a horse 🐎 in the middle of nowhere, cooking breakfast and dinner 🍝 over a camp fire 🔥
      Thanks I'm now going to move outta the city for sure and back to the country!!!!
      Love the channel it's LIFE CHANGING!!
      GOOD ENERGY AND FREQUENCIES YOUR WAY!! SERIOUSLY THANK YOU I NEEDED THIS FOR SOME REASON!!! 🤘👁️👍

    • @darkharvest4722
      @darkharvest4722 3 года назад +6

      "Hey Dowg. Did you see the size of that chicken?"

    • @michaelhill7878
      @michaelhill7878 3 года назад +5

      "Did you guys see the size of that chicken?"

    • @edbrown2061
      @edbrown2061 3 года назад +1

      “REGULATORS”!!!!

  • @Fah-Qbitch
    @Fah-Qbitch 3 года назад +3

    Awesome video, I hope to visit one day. I'll admit I didn't know it showed there either.

  • @jayscheidemen4455
    @jayscheidemen4455 Год назад

    Another fun adventure! And hell yeah it snows in New Mexico. My wife grew up in Roswell......now there's a spot for you to head to some day!

  • @skyrimwarrior
    @skyrimwarrior 2 года назад +2

    “ This is the real grave of Billy the Kid “, so says the New Mexico governor who doesn’t want the final resting of discredited by Brushy Bill Roberts ( Aka Billy the Kid ), because New Mexico needs the real grave to remain for the many visiting tourists who want to visit the real grave of Billy the Kid.

  • @alexburke9230
    @alexburke9230 3 года назад +3

    I know I'm late to the video, but I found out about a year ago, I'm related to Bob Olinger, one of Billy's guards while he was in jail, and Billy's last victim. I spent 21 years of my life not knowing that my DNA is connected to the Billy the Kid story.
    I don't know how exactly I'm related to Bob, whether he's like a great-great grandfather, uncle, or cousin down the line, but all I know is that when I asked my dad if I had any famous relatives, he told me that I'm related to Bob Olinger.

  • @KirkRedgate
    @KirkRedgate 3 года назад +7

    It's weird me watching this on my iPad, when you said Emilio Estevez he was on my TV lol

  • @cruz3deluna544
    @cruz3deluna544 3 года назад +2

    I’m from El Paso Texas and in our old cemetery Concordia we have the person who killed him John Wesley harden

  • @jasonlangmead8418
    @jasonlangmead8418 11 месяцев назад +1

    Stopped by there in my work truck on a weekday . Nobody there that day either and the museum was closed . It was worth checking out since I was in the area .

  • @Kiwitakimago
    @Kiwitakimago 3 года назад +14

    FYI the image of Billy leaning on his gun is actually backwards!!! He was left handed and it was the negative on the tin type! Thanks

  • @shaunkiddy
    @shaunkiddy 3 года назад +70

    They're making a new Young Guns movie with most of the original cast.

    • @stevanr9937
      @stevanr9937 3 года назад +19

      @Junior Mudd yep.....all the good movies are pretty much all pre 2005 2010ish......all the movies now are so "woke" or cringy...lol

    • @alldayallnitelv
      @alldayallnitelv 3 года назад

      Yea right

    • @swrose66marchangel
      @swrose66marchangel 3 года назад +3

      Please no.🤦🏻‍♀️

    • @Chrisduran71
      @Chrisduran71 3 года назад +6

      I will watch it if they get Emilio and Lou.....I am definitely in!

    • @stevanr9937
      @stevanr9937 3 года назад +4

      @@Chrisduran71 if it is true it could only be a really really stupid plot....lol.....Billy the Kid died in part 2, so did all the rest of the possee.

  • @blessedgrandma4800
    @blessedgrandma4800 3 года назад

    New Mexico can and does become very cold in the winter. I am glad you got the chance to visit his grave, see the beauty of New Mexico and enjoyed the peaceful surroundings here in Fort Sumner. Be safe on the road....

    • @Ben-tr
      @Ben-tr 5 месяцев назад

      Bosque Redondo is so peaceful...I heard they had native Americans captive at Bosque Redondo..the army did

  • @pravinshingadia7337
    @pravinshingadia7337 3 года назад +1

    You are both amazing and have a great life visiting all these cool places. One of my favourite channels.

  • @mr.blonde66milkyway66
    @mr.blonde66milkyway66 3 года назад +3

    Thanks for the memories 👍 took me back to my childhood and riding horses with my friends and shooting guns chewing tobacco and cooking over a campfire breakfast and dinner..... thanks really helped me to realize that I need too get back to my roots and move back to the country. Seriously thanks for being you, and doing what you do.
    🤘👁️👍

  • @JuanReyes-if6ky
    @JuanReyes-if6ky 3 года назад +4

    In the days of the old west , billy the kid was the youngest and most dangerous outlaw that ever walked on the face of the earth. Just the sight of him would send tremors to every wanna be cowboy from every town or saloon. And this is a legend that will never be forgoten.

  • @patriciaw.5602
    @patriciaw.5602 Год назад

    Thanks Michael & Jessica. Good back story, scenery, and a sense of the place. I didn't know it snowed in New Mexico either.

  • @JDzWORLD
    @JDzWORLD Год назад +1

    I’ve always loved the outlaws and lawmen of those days thank you both for doing what you do

  • @211inprogress
    @211inprogress 3 года назад +5

    Great video very interesting, all the best and yee-haw... 🤠👍

  • @_arron.505
    @_arron.505 3 года назад +3

    I live in New Mexico

  • @alexanderthegreat9663
    @alexanderthegreat9663 2 года назад

    Saturday night with the mrs, friends are out drinking and we are sat at home watching this cool channel 👍bliss

  • @robertvaldez5744
    @robertvaldez5744 2 года назад +1

    U ain't lying.. to Cool.... Billy is legend ... For outlaws... Honestly I like to believe he did make it to old age ...like in young guns sequel... Opening...
    Love ur stream.