@@admiralsc1 ultrawide 1440 160 is my preference slash sweet spot so I jumped on the alienware. Saying nothing else "makes sense" is..... just plain stupid.
I got my daughter the MSI MAG281URF, 28" for 599 U.S., she plays ps5 fps , I bought myself the gigabyte m32u for 649.99 because I use it for work, youtube, movies and more single player games. We are both happy with the choices made. Thanks for all your reviews, it helped out so much.
You let your daughter play frickin' SHOOTERS on console? With a game-pad? And you buy her a freakin' PC-MONITOR for that?! Either you should disown her for playing like an idiot (does she eat soup with a fork as well?), or she you for raising her to play like an idiot (did you teach her to eat soup with a fork?). Biggest ouch in a while. Oof...
@@dildojizzbaggins6969ugh.. She also has her macbook connected to the monitor and will soon have my current pc once my new build is complete. Do you recommend her using a giant tv in a bedroom for a laptop. pc and ps5? Or would it be better to use a monitor with hdmi 2.1 that is excellent for a ps5 and a Dp for a pc. It is also faster and easier to react in fps when you do not have to scan a large TV sized screen. As for the personal attack on how I raise my daughter. hmm. your name says it all.
same boat as you, even the matte coating isnt putting me off from it. would prefer glossy but with a dual monitor set up glossy might be a bad thing cause youll see yout 2nd monitor screen more than anything.
If this is a big investment for you Id personally wait for 2024 and see what samsung displays offers. With the introduction of blue pholed and a single substrate design the panels will be: -More efficient -Cheaper to produce -Have a standard pixel layout -Bendable but probably up to the manufacturer Although I cant guarantee that there will be 27inch 1440p 240hz options it might be wise to wait a bit :)
@@iamfrog6747 Ah well I’ll be waiting a while either way since I very recently bought the 1440p 270Hz ROG XG27AQM (maybe should’ve waited a bit longer for the OLEDs at the least but I’m happy with it), appreciate the info though, wasn’t aware of much of that.
With a lot of people now working from home, it's actually really useful having a USB-C connector on the monitor with support for DP alt mode, PD with enough juice to power a laptop and preferably also USB hub functionality, so that you can just plug in your work laptop with a single cable and easily switch between your home/gaming system and the work laptop. Automatic input switching is also nice to have (looking at you LG). Not saying all monitors should have this, but it would be really nice to see more monitors with both gaming and productivity features.
Still worried about Burn in ...even if it happens after5 years. I still have ten year old monitors...Making all monitors OLED however would be a good way for the manufacturers to introduce planned obsolescence...which scares the hell out of me
I love glossy glassy OLED. The picture quality, contrast is 2nd to none. Even QD-OLEDs use the blurry grayed out mess of a screen, ruining the perceived picture quality. All things get old and break. If anything, it gives you a reason to go out and get the shiny new OLED, when your old trashy tv/monitor should be thrown out anyway. The picture quality it too good to ignore. If you really have burn in problems, just get another one. They are cheap right now
@@mattgreenfield8038 you probably have too much income to understand his worries. not everyone has enough income to justify replacing things faster and faster
Great answer on the future of monitors! I hate it when tech reviewers think we've already reached the pinnacle of technologies. There are indeed lots of areas of improvement left for many years to come.
Our "tech" isn't even that old. Hell, the industrial revolution is considered new by historical standards and we've come a looong way from steam trains and crank cars. The only thing that will stop the advancement of technology is ourselves.
Only reason I can think of to cap refresh rate to below what your monitor is fully capable of (taking into consideration it's full capabilities like you mentioned) is for consistency from the GPU. If the 5% lows are too low, that hitching can be incredibly distracting and annoying, so just capping the refresh rate to what your GPU can handle with the game can keep such bad performance from being so jarring. I'm thinking about Callisto Protocol, very recent game runs like garbage on many PC set ups.
Also useful for SVP to hit a multiple of whatever you're watching with 0 extra frames with odd timing, or even just for youtube (144/165/175 don't divide evenly by 30/60)
@@LutraLovegood I capped my 270Hz to 240 for this reason (though I also don’t often get 270fps anyway), not sure I even notice any difference but 240 divides into pretty much everything nicely.
The gigabyte m28u is really really good budget 4k monitor, especially for ps5 or xbox series x. Only reason to update to $800-$1000 monitor range for console is to get a better hdr experience imo.
I have a 1440p 165hz dell monitor, but recently got a Samsung S95 and use that to game on. QD OLED is incredible. I still love my monitor but would be well happy to use my tv as monitor all the time, but dont want to get burn in so I keep to occasional use and make sure no static image stays on for too long.
I am fine with MiniLED, they can keep improving quanity of dimming zones, but it's already pretty good with the Neo G8. Until they get better text clarity, and don't use dimming protocols to protect burn in, OLED/ QLED is not fully viable for 24/7 PC monitor. Also none can do 240hz 4k yet either.
Having owned 2 OLED TV's that suffered burn-in that is my biggest concern about making the switch. When they all come with built-in active cooling I'll consider it.
19:15 Pretty sure the answer here is getting 4k, 1000Hz + pixel response time to match that with full HDR capability in a ~24-32in monitor is pretty much the goal. We might see a resolution upgrade to be slightly beyond 4k (2880p maybe) but I doubt anyone is going to care about 8k in the monitor/desktop/laptop space.
Thanks for taking up my question-glad to hear your thoughts on it! I do agree that USB-C cables can be quite convoluted given the amount of variation of capabilities a cable can have without any obvious indication of those capabilities; I wish there were more specific indications on the cables for the capabilities they were rated for. Would be nice as cables usually just get bundled up and put away in a similar location without labeling while also tossing away the original packaging, in my case at least. My question was formed from seeing the AMD reference models for the RX 6000 series having a USB-C display out. It was also formed while thinking about surpassing the need for a hub/dock for devices like tablets, phones, handhelds, and thin laptops that only have USB-C ports since most of them are relying on USB-C to output a display signal but monitors usually don’t natively support USB-C for display in. Having this feature on monitors would drop the need for a hub/dock and be more simple with only one cable if you’re only looking to get a display out from the device. Anyway, glad to hear your thoughts on this question and on the many other questions you answered in this Q&A session. Will definitely like to see more of these in the future!
I was very confused to pull a USB-C to DisplayPort cable out of my AW3423DWF box. It's so short it won't reach my tower so I just used my regular DP to DP cable. I'm wondering if I'm missing something by not using it since Dell went to the lengths of including it.
For the questions about where the monitors will go in the future - I completely agree that all of the areas that you mentioned have a massive room for improvement. However, none of the things are easily marketable like "4k" or "240 Hz". Do you expect the industry at large to move towards more strict certifications and standards in order to differentiate their newer and improved products? For example, in 5 years your average buyer will see two monitors with "4k 240Hz HDR10" on the box and think they are exactly the same.
Hdr already has the displayvesa certification so there already is a range of "hdr10" monitors ranging from we are hdr10 in the sense that it accepts the signal but does nothing to effectively display it to displayhdr1500 monitors that can beautifully blind you when you look at the sun in game with WCG, 1000+ zones, and a stupid high contrast ratio.
I’m more of a single player narrative gamer. I recently got an LG G2. I’m never paying the inflated price of a gaming Monitors again. Looking at you Asus 32 pq32uqx. The LG does everything I need. 100ish FPS is perfect for me in single and multiple player.
Good to know. 5:38 on OD really helps me understand how my $200 laptop with a RTX 1050-Ti able to run Red dead redemption 2 and GTA 5 on max settings. This prove you can save a lot of money by investing in an good affordable laptop. Check my latest video upload for proof.
Personally, I would recommend 4k144 over 1440p240, because many games will be too CPU bound to reach anywhere near 240 FPS, but you can more consistently take advantage of the 4k resolution, if your GPU is fast enough. Also, 4k is obviously better for any non-gaming activities.
A question I constantly have when watching reviews is "Is there any way to know if monitors of the same family as the one reviewed behave similarly? So, for example, the 32" version if you reviewed the 27" one? or maybe the white version of a black monitor? or the curved version of the flat one?
I have a request. Many might agree some might disagree. I like that you do a lot of 1440p content. You are one of the very very very few that do. Almost everyone else is shoving 4K 144 ULTRA WIDE 78" MONITORS OH EM GEE down our throats. For most of us fps gamers that's nit what we want. 1080p high refresh rate is slowly being replaced with the better resolution high refresh rate 1440p monitors. A lot of people are migrating to 1440p. Just please keep on going with the 1440p content. It's so sparse that I JUST found out that a 1440p hdmi 2.1 monitor came out like a month ago and never knew about it. Been lookong for one forever. And not the 1440p super duper ultra wide 37 inch now that resolution is useless monitor. I'm talking 27 inch pixel density high refresh rate monitor. I found one. A random small youtuber popped up on my feed with a 27 inch 240hz hdmi 2.1 1440p monitor and I was joyous! I have even seen a 360hz 1440p monitor around as well! So please keep on doing the content on 1440p monitors!
I wish I had some of this info before I, just, bought my 32" monitor :) Great info, good questions. These Q&A sessions are the most helpful. Probably the best on YT. Thanks for doing these Tim.
what does he mean with "if you buying a rtx 4080 or 4090 would u pair that with a 400$ display, i am not sure" what kind of monitor should i buy then with a 4090, if not the gigabyte m27q-x or m28u for example, which costs around 400-500$. 37:39. is a 400$ monitor "too cheap" or "bad" with a 4080/4090? i am just confused with his message. help please :3
Is there even any OLED television that can hit 800+ nits full brightness? I think we’ll be waiting until micro-LED becomes economically viable to hit brightnesses of that level.
@@stillmoms they are coming, eventually. Recently read about a breakthrough with blue phosphorescent tech. Might take a few years to see that though. They can still marginally improve in the meantime by better heat dissipation.
Steve, I'd love to hear more about your background (education, work experience, personal life - family, married, etc.). It sure seems like you know a lot about monitor technologies - I'm just wondering who you are and where you come from. Thanks!
I went from a 27" 144Hz TN (very good for a TN panel to be fair - Dell S2716DG) to a 32" 1440p 170Hz IPS (Acer XB323U GP) about 18 months ago, and more recently I switched to another 32" 1440p 240HZ IPS (Gigabyte FI32Q-X) due to the Acer unit having terrible scan line issues. I thought the extra screen real estate would be enough (or significantly better) for having multiple windows open when creating content/learning new skills and doing work, however, I now wish I had upped to at least an ultrawide screen in size/resolution, though, of course, the graphics horsepower required is more significant, especially in scenarios where FSR or DLSS are not available. Having to Minimise a window while watching something in order to make an adjustment say when learning something new, e.g. when using some design software, becomes tiresome very fast. That is where another 32" screen or ultrawide/4K monitor would be ideal. As for the picture/gaming quality when currently using a 32" 1440p screen, however, I find that to be very good.
Ok so I'm adding a new monitor to my setup soon. My current one is (u2713hm 1440 60hz IPS) 9 years old! It's going to be replaced as my main monitor by the AW2723DF 1440p 240hz/280 oc, nano IPS. I think it'll be a great upgrade for me! Not sure a 4K monitor at the same price will be worth it, figure a decent 4k monitor is around £1k.. I should mention OLED is fantastic for TV technology watching films etc bought mine in 2018 no issues. But as a PC monitor I'm not sure.
i bought a 4k144hz led screen (aorus fi32u) on black friday because i intend it to last an easy 10 years. oled is pretty and all but i cant trust it to hold up after how many phones ive had got burn in, and all the LTT videos like every year about how his new best thing ever got burn in and is now scrap. i wont spend 750$ on a screen that i intend to replace any time soon
I got myself 32 inch QHD 270Hz monitor this week. Only slightly cheaper than 32 inch 4K 144Hz options but I was afraid of losing good motion clarity. Similiar pixel density like my previous 24,5 inch 1080p 240Hz monitor. My focus were MMORPGs but it handles MW2 and CS:GO pretty well.
What i really want is a cheap 4k 144hz monitor with good HDR that won't take away from my GPU budget. I know that i can't afford a GPU that would allow me to game at 4K. Best i can get is most likely going to be a mid range AMD card from their next gen release when ever they plan to release them. The thing is that i use my PC for all my media consumption though. I don't own a TV. So watch Movies, TV, RUclips etc on my monitor. Since most content is moving to 4K, it would make sense to move to 4K as well. At the same time though. I don't wanna pay $1000 to get decent HDR performance and would most likely have to turn the games down to 1440p on the monitor anyway to get decent frame rates with the GPU that i plan on getting in the future.
Personally I even bought the fancy PG27UQ, the first Nvidia G Sync Ultimate display, for the ridiculous $1,200 it was on sale. It even came with the factory calibration paper and everything, and I immediately went into the settings, turned on the wide color gamut, HDR brightness in SDR content, and punched up the contrast. I personally think color calibration looks ugly and drab. There's a reason people always bought the Samsung over LG displays at the store. Yeah LG is more color accurate, but Samsung's vivid mode just looks so much better. Plus personally I actually prefer the SDR with HDR brightness over true HDR. It means I can have the dynamic range with colors how I want them. That's what I wanted in the first place. Only thing you lose is the rare times games actually support 10 bit color. Otherwise I've honestly noticed that the fake HDR looks more accurate to what it should than real HDR. An example being Final Fantasy 7 Remake the menus are all grey in HDR which they shouldn't be. Every Final Fantasy game shares the exact same deep blue menus and turning HDR off fixes it yet I don't lose the contrast. Some games like Forza Horizon 4 honestly looked more crushed with HDR on with the entire image dimming making the whole image just look bland.
My MSI MAG M274QRX arrived today, I wanted get the recent cooler master one you reviewed but they were sadly not available in my country. So I had to sacrifice true HDR but still its a great monitor regardless, well within my budget and I'm happy to use it for the next however many years! Thanks for your reviews they helped me out a lot!
Upgraded from qnix led dp10 to a gigabyte m32q and was disappointed at first with the colours, they looked the same , until I realised, they both are colour calibrated, of course gonna look close to each other, big ooof from me.
OLED will only make VA and IPS irelevant if it comes down to $400 and lower price point. RN we are seeing very promising OLED monitors around 1000 and that's nice! But that's still top of the line monitor territory, not many people buying at these price ranges, I do expect them to come lower, especially on Black friday and whatnot but still, from 1000 to 400, that's a big gap, and if they ever reach this price point while maintaining high refresh rates and high brightness it will be many many years in the future, where it's very possibli micro-LED is already replacing OLED if it ever does. I can see maybe ink-jet printe OLEDs getting this cheap in the next feew years but they will stil have to diferentiate the low price products to the high priced ones and since you can't slap a faster response time figure or better backlighting since these simply don't affect OLED what's left is just limiting the brightness output, make it only SDR instead of HDR and, of course, lower refresh rates.
@Robert Davidson I mentioned not many people are buying monitors at 1000! Not OLEDs at 1000, that's just a high-end price point! Alienware QD-OLED being frequently sold-out sold out just means there's not nearly the same amount of units being produced as there are cheaper LCD sets. While maybe Alienware sells 200 thousand units of it's QD-OLED $1300 monitors in a given period of time, they themselves proabably sell well over 1 million units of cheaper LCD monitors. And even so, I do'nt believe they move nearly the same amount of units as brands like AOC, or ACER that sells cheaper monitors. There's no two ways about it, for each person with an OLED screen there's a the very least another 10 with an LCD screen, even if you include TVs on this math. Unique, limited production cars sells for millions and millions, and even so, they are frequently sold out even before they actually launch! It doesn't mean there's a large proportion of the population driving around on Bugattis, McLarens or limited production Ferraris, it just means they produced a small enough amount that they could easily sell them even for that price, in fact there's probably only like 10 people with that car, betweeen another 8 billion.
@Robert Davidson Dosnt matter how he said , anyone with decent Iq would understand him , and he got the point , Oled is far from replacing lcd displays , cause it cost alot.
I just bought a punch of parts for my first ever pc build, a 1440p gaming rig. When getting down to choosing the monitor I didn't like the ips glow / low contrast of ips and don't want a curved VA and have to compromise motion blur and have a curved screen to achieve contrast. LG announced this new monitor for me specifically, coincidences do not exist. This thing will sell like hot cakes , hopefully the longevity and build quality is decent at this intro price point. LG know this market is there and salivating. Smart play.
The calibration discussion always feels so weird to me. I have a Omen 25 which completely messes up colours when switched to its FreeSync mode, which feels irreversible thru calibration, yet I've never seen any mention of that and I feel like ICC profiles won't fix general colour reproduction across the board anyways.
both monitors and hardware unboxed should be in the millions of views. the most useful and informative channel. unfortunately most gamers don't seem to care much about facts.
As someone that runs three 1440p Monitors, one bought [2021-07-07] ASUS ROG Swift PG329Q 32” Fast IPS, 1440p @ 175 Hz OC, VRR: 50-175Hz FreeSync+G-Sync Compatible The others two bought [2013-04-03] Dell U2711 A12 - 27” IPS, 1440p @ 60Hz, even for a main video gaming monitor, I'm extremely wary of OLED because of burn in, and £1000+ cost In Black Friday sales, I passed standby power negated at purchase by a master plug extension switching off all with my PC + Cooler Master Tempest GP27Q not sold in EU yet, if ever? Standby was a factor for 2011 Samsung TV, went with LG G2 55'' 4K, 40% off £1,400, over LG C2 55" 17% off £1,080, so I will see how good OLED is that way before deciding on a monitor.
As long as the OLEDS have horrendous burn-in issues(which they objectively do) + insane brightness and color degradation in less than a year with normal use, LCD's will be relevant for quite a long time. There's a reason samsung abandoned OLED tech, sold it to LG and now use some of LG's(old samsung tech) OLEDS just to keep with the hype train. As someone who has tested over 100 gaming monitors in the last 5 years, as of this point in time MiniLED/FALD monitors are HIGHLY superior to OLEDS(not in contrast but in longevity and they are close enough in contrast and color quality).
I personally lock GTA (or more specifically FiveM) to 60 fps for fair racing. On PC GTA, higher fps still makes your car faster. Hopefully we get whatever update was done to the PS5/XS release so I can let it run at 175 or something (would be nice if the engine limit of 188 was gone to so I can do 200+)
msqx vs msqu.... buy the 4k if you play controller, buy the 2k if you play mnk for multiplayer fps. if you play single player titles the 4k option is the one, taking into account that your system esp CPU & GPU can handle the jandle
I've been holding out on getting an OLED because of the prices being north of a thousand, thinking I could never get one that fits my budget, but I recently got an LG C2 at a discount for 900. Now I can't go back even if I have to get another one for more than that. I hadn't realised how much I disliked having a backlight until I experienced those perfectly dark blacks, infinite contrast, and extremely wide viewing angles that come with OLED.
4K and 8K difference being imperceptible is just not true. 8K is definitely noticeably better, it just depends on the monitor size. I would say 42 inches+ you will see difference between 4K and 8K
A good video would be testing the black frame insertion features of monitors at 60 fps since fighting game players have the fps locked at 60 for balance purposes. Would be cool to see the best monitor for emulation / fighting games that way.
Just pulled the trigger an a cheap Samsung U28R554UQR (28", 4K, IPS, 60Hz), it was on sale for €200 (incl. VAT & shipping). As I am not really gaming, I deem that thing enough for my needs. Beyond the occasional game of building cities and societies and the like I consider it out of the ordinary to play a round of some shooter against some bots... I'll put that thing to use in CAD, without the need for absolute color accuracy. Otherwise it'll only see office and mostly the web browser with some YT clips in between. Considering what I otherwise work with (15.6" TN, 24" old TN and newer VA, all 60Hz) that is still a humongous upgrade. I was totally blown away when I unpacked it and set it up for the first time to check for defects. Forgot to mention: It will be fed mostly by Intel IGP or AMD APU, low tier dGPU at most.
"Difference between each frame" isn't a good way to explain sample and hold blur. It's all about the frame/pixel visibility time in milliseconds, that's exactly what mprt is. on sample and hold mprt = frametime in ms blur reduction tech like backlight strobing or bfi is reducing frame visibility time without having to increase framerate+refreshrate.
ICC profiles tend to introduce color banding even on properly dithered color gradients (I think it's because the ICC profiles don't change the response curve of the display, but simply changes the color signal to trick the display into outputting more accurate colors). Is buying a monitor with perfect out-of-the box accuracy the only way to get accurate colors without banding, or is there more "low-level" way to do calibration?
What if your game runs at average 200 fps, lows 170 fps, max 210 fps. Is a 165 hz monitor recommended or a 240hz still better for smoothness & faster? ( for competitive shooter )
regarding single Overdrive, if the monitor in question does not have a single OD setting. if your monitor is 240hz or more than you can in fact turn off Freesync and you wont see any Tearing. i tried this going as low as 40ish fps. my monitor (gigbitye m27 X) has it turn off so i dont have to deal with any over/undershoot at any Refresh rate.
Considering the lack of clarity because of the pixel arrangement.. YES LCDs are very relevant. I prefer actual clarity over a slightly better black level..
Just got my m28u fired up. Getting close to maxing it out with 4090 on high setting in Cod and Tarkov. Very nice. Not real thrilled with brightness coming from LG27GN850
I ended up returning the M28u and went the LG 27gp950-b. M28u was lacking brightness. I tried to play Escape from Tarkov and couldnt see anything on some of the maps. its a dark game as it is. The LG appears to be much better for me
I like the idea of oleds, I mean they look amazing. But just the risk of burn in after spending that kind of money, I just couldn't bring myself to buy one.
I am looking forward to buying a 1440p 165 Hz va panel. Best one i have found is s2722dgm (G7 is out of my price range). Is there any va monitor around that price range with better response times and smearing?
How is OLED with burn in now? I avoided it for that and the price last year. I got an LG thinq nanoscreen 50" I run from a pc. My other pc has a Gigabyte UWD 32" monitor that does 144HZ that I tend to keep at 60 Hz. You never ever mange to think about the work of the video card do you? Higher refresh = higher temps!
USB-C is making good headway in improving bandwidth. we could see USB-C surpass HDMI/DP in bandwidth speeds in a couple years. We could see USB-C start to hit 80 and 120Gb speeds soon.
Regarding the "where will monitors go in the future?" discussion I think a really obvious direction is improving the housing and form factor. Maybe in 5 years we'll get desktop monitors which have no bezels and are as thin as laptop lids. Monitors are still clunky plastic monstrosities and there's tons of room for improvement.
Hey, just wanted to ask your recommendation for this build. Rtx 4090, i913k, 32 corsair dominator, 2tb m2 black sn850x. Asus prime z790 a mobo. Looking for a good 4k monitor less than around 800 or 900. Has to be flat and 32 or 27 inc
for office work usb-c is great. laptop to monitor and then the second monitor daisy chains to the first monitor via usb-c, also the usb-c from monitor to laptop is charging the laptop.. way less cabling. With the speeds of usb always increasing who knows ..
They're pushing up against the physical limitations of copper, it seems. The usb-c cable I use to connect to my M28U monitor is a little under a meter long. If it was longer then it would either not offer the same bandwidth, or it would have to be a hybrid electrical / optical cable which drives up the price significantly. My hope is that eventually, optical connections become part of the usb-c standard, then cheap and extremely high bandwidth cables with long runs would be possible.
@@liamness Agreed. Hopefully optical takes over. For now work doesnt require as fast of response time ect.. Today, USB-C can support various data transfer rates, from 0.48Gbps (USB 2.0) all the way to 40Gbps (USB4, Thunderbolt 3, and Thunderbolt 4). Things are only about to intensify, as today the USB Implementers Forum (USB-IF) published the USB4 Version 2.0 spec. It adds optional support for 80Gbps bidirectional bandwidth as well as the optional ability to send or receive data at up to 120Gbps.
USB-C has been garbage in my experience. I use a laptop with my monitor and the single cable charging and displaying sounds great but I’ve personally gone through 3 cables now. They all work for a few weeks or a month and then they just stop displaying on the screen. I’ve just gone back to HDMI and use a dongle now, less mucking around and it just works.
I need longer cables because my case is further away, and it's pretty much impossible to find a long USB-C cable, let alone one that doesn't cost a fortune. While DP/HDMI ones are plentiful and affordable, since there's plenty of physical space for thicker wires so material/assembly quality isn't as impactful.
I picked up a M27Q-P based on your recommendations. Excellent Monitor. One thing that I was most happy about was that it uses a standard power connector. I crossed off several monitors because they use an external brick.
I always recommend against going for OLEDs for most people who want to keep monitors for 5 years or more. Too many static elements that could accelerate burn in regardless of what you do with it. If you play a certain game or use a program for 100's of hours, then the static UI is guaranteed to leave a mark (Minecraft is a common culprit). This is why Mini-LED is the near-future for PC monitors IMO.
7:43 NO, they cannot replace the DP/HDMI. They don't work, screen starts disconnecting and reconnecting after an initial while of use, because the dedicated GPU works thought the thunderbolt and hdmi sockets and the usbc is from the intel integrated chip on a laptop. And the desktops don't use usbc I have recently bough a dell g2723h and paired it to a gaming laptop rtx 3060 130W and there is ZERO information on the internet about the problem i encountered. In my scouring on the windows settings, I ended up in the Nvidia settings from the bottom right of the taskbar, where they show which ports power the monitor in the surround/physX line Maybe for a laptop that lacks a dedicated gpu and a simple monitor, for a quick use, the usb c is ok. Not for gaming or anything GPU dependent.
I’m torn between what to get for a monitor. After watching this video I sorta fit both categories. I play single player games and competitive fps games a lot, and I spend a lot of time watching movies/tv on it as well. Should I get 1440p 240hz or 4K 144hz?
Tim, I currently have two MSI Optix MAG274QRF-QD monitors and would like to find a compatible 32" monitor for a center display in a three monitor setup driven by an RTX 3080Ti FE. Do you have any monitor recommendations or perhaps general guide lines for how to go about selecting a good compatible monitor?
Tim why don't you just tell them the best option is to keep their existing monitor for their desktop but buy something like an an OLED LG C2 as a second monitor for consumption content and gaming then you have the perfect setup for the cost of only one upgrade. I got mine on black friday for $899 and it fits perfectly inside my computer cabinet with no bezel space and so it has no reflections from the second monitor at a 90 degree swing out to my right side. Perfect for work on the desktop like movie burning and editing and gaming on the OLED. Best self gift for 2022.
Hi. Could you help me?? I just bought LG 24MP60G monitor (75Hz) and I don't know why Windows 10 shows me that refresh rate is only 74,974Hz. On NVIDIA PANEL I see 75Hz and I don't why is that. If it's normal thing than I hope I can play games without problems. Thanks
Hey, could you please talk about gaming monitors and eye strain. No one talks about it. Could you maybe make a list of gaming monitors that are easy on the eyes? Would really be appreciated.
Just waiting for a nice affordable 32" 4K 144Hz+ OLED now. Nothing else makes sense going from a 1440p 144Hz monitor.
1440p 240??
1440p 240Hz :-)
1440p 360Hz
4K 240Hz
Ultra wide doesn't make sense?
@@admiralsc1 ultrawide 1440 160 is my preference slash sweet spot so I jumped on the alienware. Saying nothing else "makes sense" is..... just plain stupid.
I got my daughter the MSI MAG281URF, 28" for 599 U.S., she plays ps5 fps , I bought myself the gigabyte m32u for 649.99 because I use it for work, youtube, movies and more single player games. We are both happy with the choices made. Thanks for all your reviews, it helped out so much.
Daaaammnn. You're daughter has a cool dad!
You let your daughter play frickin' SHOOTERS on console? With a game-pad? And you buy her a freakin' PC-MONITOR for that?!
Either you should disown her for playing like an idiot (does she eat soup with a fork as well?), or she you for raising her to play like an idiot (did you teach her to eat soup with a fork?).
Biggest ouch in a while. Oof...
@@dildojizzbaggins6969ugh.. She also has her macbook connected to the monitor and will soon have my current pc once my new build is complete. Do you recommend her using a giant tv in a bedroom for a laptop. pc and ps5? Or would it be better to use a monitor with hdmi 2.1 that is excellent for a ps5 and a Dp for a pc. It is also faster and easier to react in fps when you do not have to scan a large TV sized screen. As for the personal attack on how I raise my daughter. hmm. your name says it all.
Do you need a son? LOL
@@slappjacks4050 lmao
Looking forward to your thoughts on LG’s upcoming 27” 1440p 240Hz OLED, been waiting for one for so long and hope it lives up to expectations.
same boat as you, even the matte coating isnt putting me off from it. would prefer glossy but with a dual monitor set up glossy might be a bad thing cause youll see yout 2nd monitor screen more than anything.
If this is a big investment for you Id personally wait for 2024 and see what samsung displays offers.
With the introduction of blue pholed and a single substrate design the panels will be:
-More efficient
-Cheaper to produce
-Have a standard pixel layout
-Bendable but probably up to the manufacturer
Although I cant guarantee that there will be 27inch 1440p 240hz options it might be wise to wait a bit :)
I got a samsung odyssey g7 neo for 800$ in black Friday it's very close to oled
@@iamfrog6747 Ah well I’ll be waiting a while either way since I very recently bought the 1440p 270Hz ROG XG27AQM (maybe should’ve waited a bit longer for the OLEDs at the least but I’m happy with it), appreciate the info though, wasn’t aware of much of that.
Was going to comment the same thing, please make a video covering this monitor if you can get your hands on it early
With a lot of people now working from home, it's actually really useful having a USB-C connector on the monitor with support for DP alt mode, PD with enough juice to power a laptop and preferably also USB hub functionality, so that you can just plug in your work laptop with a single cable and easily switch between your home/gaming system and the work laptop. Automatic input switching is also nice to have (looking at you LG). Not saying all monitors should have this, but it would be really nice to see more monitors with both gaming and productivity features.
I went to a GP950 from 1440p 240hz and don’t regret it, 4k 160hz feels almost as smooth and in lots of multiplayer games the extra clarity does help.
Thanks, Tim for a great show, so much info clearly and logically explained, my goto channel for monitors.
Still worried about Burn in ...even if it happens after5 years. I still have ten year old monitors...Making all monitors OLED however would be a good way for the manufacturers to introduce planned obsolescence...which scares the hell out of me
I love glossy glassy OLED. The picture quality, contrast is 2nd to none. Even QD-OLEDs use the blurry grayed out mess of a screen, ruining the perceived picture quality. All things get old and break. If anything, it gives you a reason to go out and get the shiny new OLED, when your old trashy tv/monitor should be thrown out anyway. The picture quality it too good to ignore. If you really have burn in problems, just get another one. They are cheap right now
@@mattgreenfield8038 you probably have too much income to understand his worries. not everyone has enough income to justify replacing things faster and faster
@@alishams4496 this guy has sold his soul to corporate hell. New iPhone every year lol
@@paulcox2447 yall just broke bums
Great answer on the future of monitors! I hate it when tech reviewers think we've already reached the pinnacle of technologies. There are indeed lots of areas of improvement left for many years to come.
Our "tech" isn't even that old. Hell, the industrial revolution is considered new by historical standards and we've come a looong way from steam trains and crank cars. The only thing that will stop the advancement of technology is ourselves.
Only reason I can think of to cap refresh rate to below what your monitor is fully capable of (taking into consideration it's full capabilities like you mentioned) is for consistency from the GPU. If the 5% lows are too low, that hitching can be incredibly distracting and annoying, so just capping the refresh rate to what your GPU can handle with the game can keep such bad performance from being so jarring.
I'm thinking about Callisto Protocol, very recent game runs like garbage on many PC set ups.
not sure that would help with anything i would cap it in software not on monitor hz setting.
Also useful for SVP to hit a multiple of whatever you're watching with 0 extra frames with odd timing, or even just for youtube (144/165/175 don't divide evenly by 30/60)
@@LutraLovegood I capped my 270Hz to 240 for this reason (though I also don’t often get 270fps anyway), not sure I even notice any difference but 240 divides into pretty much everything nicely.
The gigabyte m28u is really really good budget 4k monitor, especially for ps5 or xbox series x. Only reason to update to $800-$1000 monitor range for console is to get a better hdr experience imo.
the acer nitro xv282k was on sale for as low as 400 bucks on Amazon for Black Friday. That's a tad nicer than the m28u
I got 2 of them, I love ‘em
I have a 1440p 165hz dell monitor, but recently got a Samsung S95 and use that to game on. QD OLED is incredible. I still love my monitor but would be well happy to use my tv as monitor all the time, but dont want to get burn in so I keep to occasional use and make sure no static image stays on for too long.
I am fine with MiniLED, they can keep improving quanity of dimming zones, but it's already pretty good with the Neo G8.
Until they get better text clarity, and don't use dimming protocols to protect burn in, OLED/ QLED is not fully viable for 24/7 PC monitor. Also none can do 240hz 4k yet either.
Qled is a variation of LCD as opposed to qd-oled
Having owned 2 OLED TV's that suffered burn-in that is my biggest concern about making the switch. When they all come with built-in active cooling I'll consider it.
I played a ton of final fantasy 14 on my Alienware qd oled for a good 6 months and still have zero burn in.
@@Apollo-Computers cool story bro…
19:15 Pretty sure the answer here is getting 4k, 1000Hz + pixel response time to match that with full HDR capability in a ~24-32in monitor is pretty much the goal. We might see a resolution upgrade to be slightly beyond 4k (2880p maybe) but I doubt anyone is going to care about 8k in the monitor/desktop/laptop space.
Thanks for taking up my question-glad to hear your thoughts on it! I do agree that USB-C cables can be quite convoluted given the amount of variation of capabilities a cable can have without any obvious indication of those capabilities; I wish there were more specific indications on the cables for the capabilities they were rated for. Would be nice as cables usually just get bundled up and put away in a similar location without labeling while also tossing away the original packaging, in my case at least.
My question was formed from seeing the AMD reference models for the RX 6000 series having a USB-C display out. It was also formed while thinking about surpassing the need for a hub/dock for devices like tablets, phones, handhelds, and thin laptops that only have USB-C ports since most of them are relying on USB-C to output a display signal but monitors usually don’t natively support USB-C for display in. Having this feature on monitors would drop the need for a hub/dock and be more simple with only one cable if you’re only looking to get a display out from the device.
Anyway, glad to hear your thoughts on this question and on the many other questions you answered in this Q&A session. Will definitely like to see more of these in the future!
I was very confused to pull a USB-C to DisplayPort cable out of my AW3423DWF box. It's so short it won't reach my tower so I just used my regular DP to DP cable. I'm wondering if I'm missing something by not using it since Dell went to the lengths of including it.
Been waiting for your input on this OLED monitor.
I bought the DWF version. Thanks for reaffirming your choice of gaming monitor for personal use.
Yeah I probably should have waited for DWF but I jumped on the DW and I'm really happy with it.
For the questions about where the monitors will go in the future - I completely agree that all of the areas that you mentioned have a massive room for improvement. However, none of the things are easily marketable like "4k" or "240 Hz". Do you expect the industry at large to move towards more strict certifications and standards in order to differentiate their newer and improved products? For example, in 5 years your average buyer will see two monitors with "4k 240Hz HDR10" on the box and think they are exactly the same.
Hdr already has the displayvesa certification so there already is a range of "hdr10" monitors ranging from we are hdr10 in the sense that it accepts the signal but does nothing to effectively display it to displayhdr1500 monitors that can beautifully blind you when you look at the sun in game with WCG, 1000+ zones, and a stupid high contrast ratio.
I’m more of a single player narrative gamer. I recently got an LG G2. I’m never paying the inflated price of a gaming Monitors again. Looking at you Asus 32 pq32uqx. The LG does everything I need. 100ish FPS is perfect for me in single and multiple player.
4k is fantastic for coding. Love 4k 27 high ppi with 150% scaling.
Yeah, my M28U pulls excellent double duty between work and play.
Agreed although I went 40" and run at 100% scale. Easy on the eye and great for having lots of screens open.
Can you recommend me a good 4k monitor? I’m also a coder and after looking at a MacBook I can’t code on anything less sharp.
Good to know.
5:38 on OD really helps me understand how my $200 laptop with a RTX 1050-Ti able to run Red dead redemption 2 and GTA 5 on max settings. This prove you can save a lot of money by investing in an good affordable laptop.
Check my latest video upload for proof.
32” OLED with 165hz (or higher) would be absolutely perfect. 💯
Great monitor guide. I bought my 1440p monitor about 7 years ago for £650, still using it today, but my next buy will be a 4K model.
Been using a 1440p 144hz monitor for years. Still quite happy with it.
Waiting for a 240Hz 4K 32 inch OLED
4K 240HZ OLED MONITORS NEEDED NOW AT ACCEPTABLE SIZES!! LG I'm looking at you...
That first question was kinda a banger thank you :D
Hey there’s my question, thanks for the in depth answer Tim!
Personally, I would recommend 4k144 over 1440p240, because many games will be too CPU bound to reach anywhere near 240 FPS, but you can more consistently take advantage of the 4k resolution, if your GPU is fast enough. Also, 4k is obviously better for any non-gaming activities.
Hey Tim, thanks for answering my question! I play a lot of from software titles, so unfortunately 60Hz performance will always be critical to me!
A question I constantly have when watching reviews is "Is there any way to know if monitors of the same family as the one reviewed behave similarly? So, for example, the 32" version if you reviewed the 27" one? or maybe the white version of a black monitor? or the curved version of the flat one?
I have a request. Many might agree some might disagree. I like that you do a lot of 1440p content. You are one of the very very very few that do. Almost everyone else is shoving 4K 144 ULTRA WIDE 78" MONITORS OH EM GEE down our throats. For most of us fps gamers that's nit what we want. 1080p high refresh rate is slowly being replaced with the better resolution high refresh rate 1440p monitors. A lot of people are migrating to 1440p. Just please keep on going with the 1440p content. It's so sparse that I JUST found out that a 1440p hdmi 2.1 monitor came out like a month ago and never knew about it. Been lookong for one forever. And not the 1440p super duper ultra wide 37 inch now that resolution is useless monitor. I'm talking 27 inch pixel density high refresh rate monitor. I found one. A random small youtuber popped up on my feed with a 27 inch 240hz hdmi 2.1 1440p monitor and I was joyous! I have even seen a 360hz 1440p monitor around as well! So please keep on doing the content on 1440p monitors!
I wish I had some of this info before I, just, bought my 32" monitor :) Great info, good questions. These Q&A sessions are the most helpful. Probably the best on YT. Thanks for doing these Tim.
Thanks for answering my question Tim! It's an exciting time for monitors and can't wait to see what 2023 holds 😆
what does he mean with "if you buying a rtx 4080 or 4090 would u pair that with a 400$ display, i am not sure" what kind of monitor should i buy then with a 4090, if not the gigabyte m27q-x or m28u for example, which costs around 400-500$. 37:39. is a 400$ monitor "too cheap" or "bad" with a 4080/4090? i am just confused with his message. help please :3
32-34" 1440p or 40-45" 4k, 200+Hz qd-oled, 16-21:9, 800 +nits. I'll wait for this. Hopefully CES wont disappoint.
4k 120hz 42" oled is just perfect. Under 800 bucks
Is there even any OLED television that can hit 800+ nits full brightness? I think we’ll be waiting until micro-LED becomes economically viable to hit brightnesses of that level.
@@stillmoms bits or nits?
If nits, then yes, yes there is
Lg g2 has +1000
@@stillmoms they are coming, eventually. Recently read about a breakthrough with blue phosphorescent tech. Might take a few years to see that though. They can still marginally improve in the meantime by better heat dissipation.
@@DuBstep115 Not sustained, and not anywhere close to full-screen though. These are the weaknesses of OLED.
Steve, I'd love to hear more about your background (education, work experience, personal life - family, married, etc.). It sure seems like you know a lot about monitor technologies - I'm just wondering who you are and where you come from. Thanks!
I went from a 27" 144Hz TN (very good for a TN panel to be fair - Dell S2716DG) to a 32" 1440p 170Hz IPS (Acer XB323U GP) about 18 months ago, and more recently I switched to another 32" 1440p 240HZ IPS (Gigabyte FI32Q-X) due to the Acer unit having terrible scan line issues. I thought the extra screen real estate would be enough (or significantly better) for having multiple windows open when creating content/learning new skills and doing work, however, I now wish I had upped to at least an ultrawide screen in size/resolution, though, of course, the graphics horsepower required is more significant, especially in scenarios where FSR or DLSS are not available. Having to Minimise a window while watching something in order to make an adjustment say when learning something new, e.g. when using some design software, becomes tiresome very fast. That is where another 32" screen or ultrawide/4K monitor would be ideal. As for the picture/gaming quality when currently using a 32" 1440p screen, however, I find that to be very good.
I use the same Dell, still a good monitor. I wait till 4k 144hz or more are available and affordable. 😊
Ok so I'm adding a new monitor to my setup soon. My current one is (u2713hm 1440 60hz IPS) 9 years old!
It's going to be replaced as my main monitor by the AW2723DF 1440p 240hz/280 oc, nano IPS.
I think it'll be a great upgrade for me! Not sure a 4K monitor at the same price will be worth it, figure a decent 4k monitor is around £1k..
I should mention OLED is fantastic for TV technology watching films etc bought mine in 2018 no issues. But as a PC monitor I'm not sure.
i bought a 4k144hz led screen (aorus fi32u) on black friday because i intend it to last an easy 10 years. oled is pretty and all but i cant trust it to hold up after how many phones ive had got burn in, and all the LTT videos like every year about how his new best thing ever got burn in and is now scrap. i wont spend 750$ on a screen that i intend to replace any time soon
I got myself 32 inch QHD 270Hz monitor this week. Only slightly cheaper than 32 inch 4K 144Hz options but I was afraid of losing good motion clarity. Similiar pixel density like my previous 24,5 inch 1080p 240Hz monitor. My focus were MMORPGs but it handles MW2 and CS:GO pretty well.
Can you give me the name of that monitor I’m looking for a 32 inch high hz monitor also what is the resolution of it?
im between Lg 32gq850-b and Gigabyte M32u which one do you recomend?
What i really want is a cheap 4k 144hz monitor with good HDR that won't take away from my GPU budget. I know that i can't afford a GPU that would allow me to game at 4K. Best i can get is most likely going to be a mid range AMD card from their next gen release when ever they plan to release them. The thing is that i use my PC for all my media consumption though. I don't own a TV. So watch Movies, TV, RUclips etc on my monitor. Since most content is moving to 4K, it would make sense to move to 4K as well. At the same time though. I don't wanna pay $1000 to get decent HDR performance and would most likely have to turn the games down to 1440p on the monitor anyway to get decent frame rates with the GPU that i plan on getting in the future.
Personally I even bought the fancy PG27UQ, the first Nvidia G Sync Ultimate display, for the ridiculous $1,200 it was on sale. It even came with the factory calibration paper and everything, and I immediately went into the settings, turned on the wide color gamut, HDR brightness in SDR content, and punched up the contrast. I personally think color calibration looks ugly and drab. There's a reason people always bought the Samsung over LG displays at the store. Yeah LG is more color accurate, but Samsung's vivid mode just looks so much better.
Plus personally I actually prefer the SDR with HDR brightness over true HDR. It means I can have the dynamic range with colors how I want them. That's what I wanted in the first place. Only thing you lose is the rare times games actually support 10 bit color. Otherwise I've honestly noticed that the fake HDR looks more accurate to what it should than real HDR. An example being Final Fantasy 7 Remake the menus are all grey in HDR which they shouldn't be. Every Final Fantasy game shares the exact same deep blue menus and turning HDR off fixes it yet I don't lose the contrast. Some games like Forza Horizon 4 honestly looked more crushed with HDR on with the entire image dimming making the whole image just look bland.
My MSI MAG M274QRX arrived today, I wanted get the recent cooler master one you reviewed but they were sadly not available in my country. So I had to sacrifice true HDR but still its a great monitor regardless, well within my budget and I'm happy to use it for the next however many years! Thanks for your reviews they helped me out a lot!
jumping straight in without the music is a good idea imo
Upgraded from qnix led dp10 to a gigabyte m32q and was disappointed at first with the colours, they looked the same , until I realised, they both are colour calibrated, of course gonna look close to each other, big ooof from me.
OLED will only make VA and IPS irelevant if it comes down to $400 and lower price point. RN we are seeing very promising OLED monitors around 1000 and that's nice! But that's still top of the line monitor territory, not many people buying at these price ranges, I do expect them to come lower, especially on Black friday and whatnot but still, from 1000 to 400, that's a big gap, and if they ever reach this price point while maintaining high refresh rates and high brightness it will be many many years in the future, where it's very possibli micro-LED is already replacing OLED if it ever does. I can see maybe ink-jet printe OLEDs getting this cheap in the next feew years but they will stil have to diferentiate the low price products to the high priced ones and since you can't slap a faster response time figure or better backlighting since these simply don't affect OLED what's left is just limiting the brightness output, make it only SDR instead of HDR and, of course, lower refresh rates.
@Robert Davidson I mentioned not many people are buying monitors at 1000! Not OLEDs at 1000, that's just a high-end price point! Alienware QD-OLED being frequently sold-out sold out just means there's not nearly the same amount of units being produced as there are cheaper LCD sets. While maybe Alienware sells 200 thousand units of it's QD-OLED $1300 monitors in a given period of time, they themselves proabably sell well over 1 million units of cheaper LCD monitors. And even so, I do'nt believe they move nearly the same amount of units as brands like AOC, or ACER that sells cheaper monitors. There's no two ways about it, for each person with an OLED screen there's a the very least another 10 with an LCD screen, even if you include TVs on this math. Unique, limited production cars sells for millions and millions, and even so, they are frequently sold out even before they actually launch! It doesn't mean there's a large proportion of the population driving around on Bugattis, McLarens or limited production Ferraris, it just means they produced a small enough amount that they could easily sell them even for that price, in fact there's probably only like 10 people with that car, betweeen another 8 billion.
@Robert Davidson Dosnt matter how he said , anyone with decent Iq would understand him , and he got the point , Oled is far from replacing lcd displays , cause it cost alot.
Once Micro LED comes out IPS and VA are DEAD! I think OLED will be used for lower end monitors.
I just bought a punch of parts for my first ever pc build, a 1440p gaming rig. When getting down to choosing the monitor I didn't like the ips glow / low contrast of ips and don't want a curved VA and have to compromise motion blur and have a curved screen to achieve contrast. LG announced this new monitor for me specifically, coincidences do not exist. This thing will sell like hot cakes , hopefully the longevity and build quality is decent at this intro price point. LG know this market is there and salivating. Smart play.
Wondering if you will get to test and review the LG 1440p OLED before it hits the market. Really hope so.
The calibration discussion always feels so weird to me.
I have a Omen 25 which completely messes up colours when switched to its FreeSync mode, which feels irreversible thru calibration, yet I've never seen any mention of that and I feel like ICC profiles won't fix general colour reproduction across the board anyways.
both monitors and hardware unboxed should be in the millions of views. the most useful and informative channel. unfortunately most gamers don't seem to care much about facts.
As someone that runs three 1440p Monitors, one bought [2021-07-07] ASUS ROG Swift PG329Q 32” Fast IPS, 1440p @ 175 Hz OC, VRR: 50-175Hz FreeSync+G-Sync Compatible
The others two bought [2013-04-03] Dell U2711 A12 - 27” IPS, 1440p @ 60Hz, even for a main video gaming monitor, I'm extremely wary of OLED because of burn in, and £1000+ cost
In Black Friday sales, I passed standby power negated at purchase by a master plug extension switching off all with my PC + Cooler Master Tempest GP27Q not sold in EU yet, if ever?
Standby was a factor for 2011 Samsung TV, went with LG G2 55'' 4K, 40% off £1,400, over LG C2 55" 17% off £1,080, so I will see how good OLED is that way before deciding on a monitor.
As long as the OLEDS have horrendous burn-in issues(which they objectively do) + insane brightness and color degradation in less than a year with normal use, LCD's will be relevant for quite a long time. There's a reason samsung abandoned OLED tech, sold it to LG and now use some of LG's(old samsung tech) OLEDS just to keep with the hype train. As someone who has tested over 100 gaming monitors in the last 5 years, as of this point in time MiniLED/FALD monitors are HIGHLY superior to OLEDS(not in contrast but in longevity and they are close enough in contrast and color quality).
I personally lock GTA (or more specifically FiveM) to 60 fps for fair racing. On PC GTA, higher fps still makes your car faster. Hopefully we get whatever update was done to the PS5/XS release so I can let it run at 175 or something (would be nice if the engine limit of 188 was gone to so I can do 200+)
msqx vs msqu.... buy the 4k if you play controller, buy the 2k if you play mnk for multiplayer fps. if you play single player titles the 4k option is the one, taking into account that your system esp CPU & GPU can handle the jandle
I've been holding out on getting an OLED because of the prices being north of a thousand, thinking I could never get one that fits my budget, but I recently got an LG C2 at a discount for 900. Now I can't go back even if I have to get another one for more than that. I hadn't realised how much I disliked having a backlight until I experienced those perfectly dark blacks, infinite contrast, and extremely wide viewing angles that come with OLED.
4K and 8K difference being imperceptible is just not true. 8K is definitely noticeably better, it just depends on the monitor size. I would say 42 inches+ you will see difference between 4K and 8K
20:25 I thought you said doggy vision lmao. I was like WTF???
A good video would be testing the black frame insertion features of monitors at 60 fps since fighting game players have the fps locked at 60 for balance purposes. Would be cool to see the best monitor for emulation / fighting games that way.
Just pulled the trigger an a cheap Samsung U28R554UQR (28", 4K, IPS, 60Hz), it was on sale for €200 (incl. VAT & shipping). As I am not really gaming, I deem that thing enough for my needs. Beyond the occasional game of building cities and societies and the like I consider it out of the ordinary to play a round of some shooter against some bots...
I'll put that thing to use in CAD, without the need for absolute color accuracy. Otherwise it'll only see office and mostly the web browser with some YT clips in between.
Considering what I otherwise work with (15.6" TN, 24" old TN and newer VA, all 60Hz) that is still a humongous upgrade. I was totally blown away when I unpacked it and set it up for the first time to check for defects.
Forgot to mention: It will be fed mostly by Intel IGP or AMD APU, low tier dGPU at most.
When are Displayport 2.1 monitors coming out?
looking forward to your thoughts on LGs upcoming 32 inch and above 240hz OLED
Thank you for clear thoughts on the 32" monitors. Literally trying to figure rhat same thing out now
Thanks, those later half are exactly what i need.
"Difference between each frame" isn't a good way to explain sample and hold blur. It's all about the frame/pixel visibility time in milliseconds, that's exactly what mprt is.
on sample and hold mprt = frametime in ms
blur reduction tech like backlight strobing or bfi is reducing frame visibility time without having to increase framerate+refreshrate.
Hello! Could you help me? Can you tell me what you think about the benq mobiuz ex2710q? I can't decide between this and the lg27gp850. Thanks
27" 4K 240Hz OLED, I am ready!
ICC profiles tend to introduce color banding even on properly dithered color gradients (I think it's because the ICC profiles don't change the response curve of the display, but simply changes the color signal to trick the display into outputting more accurate colors). Is buying a monitor with perfect out-of-the box accuracy the only way to get accurate colors without banding, or is there more "low-level" way to do calibration?
What if your game runs at average 200 fps, lows 170 fps, max 210 fps. Is a 165 hz monitor recommended or a 240hz still better for smoothness & faster? ( for competitive shooter )
regarding single Overdrive, if the monitor in question does not have a single OD setting. if your monitor is 240hz or more than you can in fact turn off Freesync and you wont see any Tearing. i tried this going as low as 40ish fps. my monitor (gigbitye m27 X) has it turn off so i dont have to deal with any over/undershoot at any Refresh rate.
Considering the lack of clarity because of the pixel arrangement.. YES LCDs are very relevant. I prefer actual clarity over a slightly better black level..
Great content…HDR is years old thing and yet still important
Yeah…buy nice or buy twice 😂
Waiting the 40-42" 5k2k 144Hz OLED and I will buy that no matter the cost :D
Just got my m28u fired up. Getting close to maxing it out with 4090 on high setting in Cod and Tarkov. Very nice. Not real thrilled with brightness coming from LG27GN850
I ended up returning the M28u and went the LG 27gp950-b. M28u was lacking brightness. I tried to play Escape from Tarkov and couldnt see anything on some of the maps. its a dark game as it is. The LG appears to be much better for me
I just got the LG C2 :) Oled supremacy!!
I like the idea of oleds, I mean they look amazing. But just the risk of burn in after spending that kind of money, I just couldn't bring myself to buy one.
27 inch 2k 165hz Glossy OLED is what I want. under 800 would be even better
I am looking forward to buying a 1440p 165 Hz va panel. Best one i have found is s2722dgm (G7 is out of my price range). Is there any va monitor around that price range with better response times and smearing?
Man, you should really hold off and get a QD OLED.
gigabyte m27q x good enough for my rtx 4090?
How is OLED with burn in now? I avoided it for that and the price last year. I got an LG thinq nanoscreen 50" I run from a pc. My other pc has a Gigabyte UWD 32" monitor that does 144HZ that I tend to keep at 60 Hz. You never ever mange to think about the work of the video card do you? Higher refresh = higher temps!
The Alienware AW3423DWF theoretically with 3860×1600 and DP 2.x would push me over the edge.
USB-C is making good headway in improving bandwidth. we could see USB-C surpass HDMI/DP in bandwidth speeds in a couple years. We could see USB-C start to hit 80 and 120Gb speeds soon.
Until OLED can get to and sustain the necessary brightness to be usable in a bright sun filled room, then I'll keep buying IPS
Regarding the "where will monitors go in the future?" discussion I think a really obvious direction is improving the housing and form factor. Maybe in 5 years we'll get desktop monitors which have no bezels and are as thin as laptop lids. Monitors are still clunky plastic monstrosities and there's tons of room for improvement.
Monstrosities. 😂
Imagine just a thin panel with no bulk 😮
Hey, just wanted to ask your recommendation for this build. Rtx 4090, i913k, 32 corsair dominator, 2tb m2 black sn850x. Asus prime z790 a mobo. Looking for a good 4k monitor less than around 800 or 900. Has to be flat and 32 or 27 inc
for office work usb-c is great. laptop to monitor and then the second monitor daisy chains to the first monitor via usb-c, also the usb-c from monitor to laptop is charging the laptop.. way less cabling. With the speeds of usb always increasing who knows ..
They're pushing up against the physical limitations of copper, it seems. The usb-c cable I use to connect to my M28U monitor is a little under a meter long. If it was longer then it would either not offer the same bandwidth, or it would have to be a hybrid electrical / optical cable which drives up the price significantly. My hope is that eventually, optical connections become part of the usb-c standard, then cheap and extremely high bandwidth cables with long runs would be possible.
@@liamness Agreed. Hopefully optical takes over. For now work doesnt require as fast of response time ect.. Today, USB-C can support various data transfer rates, from 0.48Gbps (USB 2.0) all the way to 40Gbps (USB4, Thunderbolt 3, and Thunderbolt 4). Things are only about to intensify, as today the USB Implementers Forum (USB-IF) published the USB4 Version 2.0 spec. It adds optional support for 80Gbps bidirectional bandwidth as well as the optional ability to send or receive data at up to 120Gbps.
USB-C has been garbage in my experience. I use a laptop with my monitor and the single cable charging and displaying sounds great but I’ve personally gone through 3 cables now. They all work for a few weeks or a month and then they just stop displaying on the screen. I’ve just gone back to HDMI and use a dongle now, less mucking around and it just works.
I need longer cables because my case is further away, and it's pretty much impossible to find a long USB-C cable, let alone one that doesn't cost a fortune. While DP/HDMI ones are plentiful and affordable, since there's plenty of physical space for thicker wires so material/assembly quality isn't as impactful.
I picked up a M27Q-P based on your recommendations. Excellent Monitor. One thing that I was most happy about was that it uses a standard power connector. I crossed off several monitors because they use an external brick.
I always recommend against going for OLEDs for most people who want to keep monitors for 5 years or more. Too many static elements that could accelerate burn in regardless of what you do with it. If you play a certain game or use a program for 100's of hours, then the static UI is guaranteed to leave a mark (Minecraft is a common culprit). This is why Mini-LED is the near-future for PC monitors IMO.
7:43 NO, they cannot replace the DP/HDMI. They don't work, screen starts disconnecting and reconnecting after an initial while of use, because the dedicated GPU works thought the thunderbolt and hdmi sockets and the usbc is from the intel integrated chip on a laptop. And the desktops don't use usbc
I have recently bough a dell g2723h and paired it to a gaming laptop rtx 3060 130W and there is ZERO information on the internet about the problem i encountered.
In my scouring on the windows settings, I ended up in the Nvidia settings from the bottom right of the taskbar, where they show which ports power the monitor in the surround/physX line
Maybe for a laptop that lacks a dedicated gpu and a simple monitor, for a quick use, the usb c is ok. Not for gaming or anything GPU dependent.
I’m torn between what to get for a monitor. After watching this video I sorta fit both categories. I play single player games and competitive fps games a lot, and I spend a lot of time watching movies/tv on it as well. Should I get 1440p 240hz or 4K 144hz?
Tim, I currently have two MSI Optix MAG274QRF-QD monitors and would like to find a compatible 32" monitor for a center display in a three monitor setup driven by an RTX 3080Ti FE. Do you have any monitor recommendations or perhaps general guide lines for how to go about selecting a good compatible monitor?
where do i buy hardware unboxed gear? like mouse pads, having a hard time finding the store
What's more noticeable visually? More pixels, or deeper contrast? Essentially, what's better, OLED or 4K? MMORPG and Single Player gaming. No FPS.
How is framerate and refreshrate effect each other? I have two examples.
A)120 fps pn 120hz vs 240hz
B)120hz with 120 fps vs 240fps
Frame rate = FPS
Tim why don't you just tell them the best option is to keep their existing monitor for their desktop but buy something like an an OLED LG C2 as a second monitor for consumption content and gaming then you have the perfect setup for the cost of only one upgrade. I got mine on black friday for $899 and it fits perfectly inside my computer cabinet with no bezel space and so it has no reflections from the second monitor at a 90 degree swing out to my right side. Perfect for work on the desktop like movie burning and editing and gaming on the OLED. Best self gift for 2022.
Top pick for me would be the aw3423dwf, but if I wait long enough maybe they will have a 4k version
Hi. Could you help me?? I just bought LG 24MP60G monitor (75Hz) and I don't know why Windows 10 shows me that refresh rate is only 74,974Hz. On NVIDIA PANEL I see 75Hz and I don't why is that. If it's normal thing than I hope I can play games without problems. Thanks
Hey, could you please talk about gaming monitors and eye strain. No one talks about it. Could you maybe make a list of gaming monitors that are easy on the eyes? Would really be appreciated.
We want all colours, brightness, framerate, resolution, response time and so on.
Does 1440p look bad on a 27" 4k monitor? How does it compare to a 1440p monitor of the same size?