With the blue tool, I crimp one size up, then again with the actual size. It completely eradicates the squished side of the crimp that you are getting. Nothing compared to the hydraulic varients. But decent enough for the money 💰
When you say one size up, do you mean one size smaller or one size bigger? I’m having the same trouble with it crimping more to one side and it not holding…
another tool to use to strip large wire is actually a wheel-based pipe cutter, the one where you tighten a wheel over the copper and spin it while tightening it to eventually snap it apart
in my experience owning those blue crimpers, they are well worth the money! it's accessible, does the job more than well enough, and is fine especially if you're a DIYer! well worth the money
I've been using that mechanical style for over 20 yrs, I have the greenlee brand, they definitely work best with certain brands of lugs, mine has a label around both handles with the types, they work great, mostly used mine in commercial electrical work but used them also for car audio power cables, never had a lug come off or fail. For the average person doing a car audio system these are perfect, the price is good ( they used to be over $100 ). As for the quality of the cheaper Amazon ones I can't say, mine were made in the USA.
Place I worked used to make custom length Power Cables. We used this same tool, however, on the second crimp, we turned the lug 90° from the first crimp. We never got a come back when we did that, where as, when someone made a mistake and crimped them inline, we would always get a come back and have to redo the cable, and well, after a month in service, it generally meant having to make a brand new cable for the customer. It should be noted, generally, the power cables we made, were used in applications where the cabling had to flex back and forth, putting extra strain on the lugs.
I used a hammer crimper on the battery wires for my solar setup. It's cheap, easy and works great. Used a 4 pound hammer. It's an attractive choice especially for a tool that's only going to be used a few times and you don't have to "sell your first born" to get one.
I have been using these crimpers for years. They do require a lot of force but they work. Hard part is try to do the crimping on wire that is already installed in a vehicle
I have been using the same exact yellow and black Amazon bought hydraulic crimper for years now. I think I'll stick to it as it does what I need for all larger lugs. Great to see how these mechanical ones do though
I have 3 different styles of crimpers and these two styles are the ones I use the most, the blue ones for small sizes like 1/0 on down and use my hydraulic ones for 2/0 and bigger
I own both styles. The plier style crimp started to not clamp down all the way. So the cables would be loose in the lug. I had it replaced under warranty. The replacement lived about a year longer than the first but eventually did the same thing, wouldn’t crimp all the way. No visible signs of bending or wear. In the 6 years of using my hydraulic crimp it has never failed me and the crimps are clean and straight.
100% agree they are ridiculously cheap for the amazing crimps they can make. Why is it it seems like no one wants to spend a few $ on the hydraulic crimpers? People are just throwing their money away on the jaw style you could do a better job with a punch and hammer.
@@supersportimpalass because if someone is just doing a one-off installation in their own vehicle, they don't want to splurge hundreds on a hydraulic crimper for like 4 crimps
@@supersportimpalass just by pure price comparison, you can get the whole manual crimper along with a set of like 100 assorted copper lugs for a good bit cheaper than what it costs to get even some generic hydraulic crimper. Not even remotely worth it if it's a single installation with max of 2-3 uses in multiple years. Also punch and hammer do not do any better of a job, not to mention they take far more effort, noisy, impractical and again, cost as much as something that's faster, silent, easier to use and gives same results majority of the time
The best budget crimper is the TEMCo Hammer Lug Crimper. I used it professionally for a couple decades and still keep one around for the occasional install. Is it the best crimper ever made? No. But it’s the best for the lowest cost.
I have the same crimpers and get the same results. I have resorted to doing a partial crimp, then rotating the lug and finishing the crimp. Because of the narrow die, I have to do this twice on every crimp. Not the most productive, but for the frequency of use, it's workable. I use anchor brand terminals so theoretically not chinese junk.
I came searching to see if others had off-center crimps on lower gage wires with this tool and you seem to have the exact same issue. My 6ga crimps create a "tab" on one side a little more severe than your 4ga demo. They are locked tight and won't slip but I don't like the offset crushed tab this creates. I will use a size larger now on for my 6ga to see if that improves things. Just visual spotting of the 6ga die setting it looks way too small an opening. Thanks for posting this.. it was helpful.
Not a bad price for either. You can also use a dull railroad spike & a hammer on an anvil & actually get really good results. 2 divots on one side, one on the other right in the middle
I have the hydraulic crimper for the KnuKonceptz 4/0 wire. Just a heads up for anyone that wants to get the hydraulic crimper with the 4/0, you're gonna need a smaller pin as the wire/terminals don't fit through, even with the 4/0 dyes with the crimpers
My diy solution is a brake line flare clamp, bolts replaced with grade 9 and use an impact driver to tighten. If using outside the car I put it in a vice. However this looks like a decent affordable tool, thanks for sharing
I just tried KnuKonceptz for the first time and definitely high quality wire. I do have the blue crimper and had I known I would use them so much would've went hydraulic. But blue ones work
I bought a hammer-style crimper to make new battery cables for my truck, using marine 2/0 cables and marine heat-shrink tubing. I made all the cables off the truck so working on the ground was fine. If I had to crimp in the vehicle I would get hydraulic crimpers.
I've had pretty decent results with a 4 pound sledge and a hammer set crimper It's not as nice as a ratcheting crimper, but a crimper for 1/0 wire is quite a bit more expensive than one that maxes out at 8AWG
@@martinwhite418 well it sure passes the pull test, it is absolutely not coming loose. I never measured the resistance of the crimp, but I used that on the battery cables on my V8 truck which has a 2KW starter and it has worked fine for 2 years.
It is great to see videos answering common questions that are always asked. The last one that talked about feeling let down by your aftermarket speaker choice this one about crimping I don't know if you've done any videos about game setting that is another pretty common question asked. Maybe things that are wire related. Such as through a firewall best place to route wires how to make wires look clean at the amp.
I bought one of these they crimp more 2 one side because that's how it crimps. What I do is reverse side for each crimp. I have always done a double crimp and reverse 180 degrees for each. Also I have never had any problems
I use pliers by crimping one side of the connector then the same on the opposite side. The top one overlaps and then I soldered the wire to the connector.
I use a small bench vice and a little solder. Hold the eye of the lug in the vice, heat the lug up, and melt a little solder into it. Insert the wire into the lug and push while opening the vise up till the barrel of the lug is in the jaws of the vice then tighten the vice. I thought those tools were way more expensive, I'd probably buy the cheaper one because it's easier to store in a tool chest. I guess getting a set of dies and useing my 20-ton shop press would be overkill, would be the best takes less space option.
CAF, I crimp wires with the Burndy Patriot 750. I Am trying to buy the Patriot 750 T3. It has a bluetooth app that will tell you if the crimp was proper or not. Indent crimlers are not ideal. The Patriot 750 will create what is known as a "Cold Weld". Check out the youtube vids. We don't use those lightweight copper lugs either. We use Burndy or Thomas&Betts. Not cheap. But reliable.
Hey, I know this hasn't particularly anything to do with the video but I thought you guys might help. I''ve started with getting a single din headunit called " Pioneer MVH 280-FD ". and so I connected everything and everything was playing allright, until, I went over a certain volume and the clipping started. I quickly researched that this particular headunit needed a separate 12V from the battery to run since it was a high power headunit. I Installed the 12V directly from the battery and I was still using the cars ground/negative wire from the factory wiring harness. This fixed the problem for a little while, that is until the headunit started running a little bit hot that the clipping would come back. So i thought that the ground wasn't good enough from the car itself and so I ran a ground directly to the car chassis (in-turn losing the remote turn-on/off) That had the same result basically as before, headunit went hot and clipping came back. Could it be that this particular headunit needs both the positive and negative to run from the battery because this is my last idea and I don't know what else to do. I'm only running the pioneer headunit, no other amps are connected. Just plain simple headunit with 4 speakers and 2 tweeters. Sorry for the long message but I thought it would be best to explain thoroughly
Making only the positive wire a better connection won't help much, if at all, both need to be made better. Ground is usually easy, just run it to any nearby screw in a metal portion of the dash or firewall.
Looks like a quality crimping tool (just saw it in another Y-T video) but recently I decided *I* needed to get a serious large-cable crimping tool (was using an "anvil" type you hit with a hammer -- works, but a bit imprecise) and came across a hydraulic crimper @ Harbor Freight ($70 seemed a nice price, too). The included dies go up to AWG 1/0 cable so I guess anything heavier would need those larger dies (if even available) or I'd have to get another/large hydraulic crimper. But for now, the 1/0 size cable limit is fine, as my 2000W 12v PSW inverter uses 1/0 cable, and my other 12v PSW inverters use AWG 4 & 6 -- so I'm covered. I might get a 1500W inverter in the future, and if so that'd use AWG 2 cable so I'm good there also. -- BR
Buy the hydraulic crimper you won’t need to use solder. Using the correct dies the cable and lug will actually cold weld together. There’s a reason why the majority of factory connections don’t use solder as it isn’t needed and doesn’t make the connection any better.
A correct crimp (die size matched to terminal size) does not need solder, but some cars and aircraft solder the crimp AFTER it is made. BUT it’s overkill for car Stereo work IF you size the crimper correctly.
@@supersportimpalass In some instances solder can actually make the connection worse. The solder solidifies the connector making it brittle and in a car that is subject to vibrations, heat, and flexing, it can break the connection. I had that happen on a few connections in my car before I decided to stick to crimping.
It's preference. I know someone that'll solder and then crimp. My coworkers like to solder and not crimp. I'm the odd one out at work since crimp and no solder is my go to method.
Quick tip, when crimping large wires or even smaller wires start as far as possible away from the connector of the lug if you have a shallow crimper. I did 300mm^2 copper and 400mm^2 AL wires in wind turbines and we crimped twice on each lug starting from the wire side and second crimp closer to the lug end. Never had to redo the crimp after QA looked at it.
My hex crimper does the same odd crimp if the lug isn’t a tight fit on the wire. And Im experimenting if the lug doesn’t crimp tight enough I’ll turn one die down a size, not sure if it’ll give the crimp a good solid cross section, trying different things, don’t want buy another crimping tool.
The crazy part is this budget crimper came across my feed and my first thought before purchasing was let me run it back to CAF and see what tool he was using
Concrete and sledgehammer for my first build, now doing a full trunk build for my girlfriends car but didn’t know how much use it would see afterwards, but I’m not doing the sledgehammer and concrete method for this one. By getting my girl another car, my backseat is finally coming out…for more subs…more wire….so!
The lever style crimpers are definitely faster. But I think the hydraulic crimpers are better overall since they require less leverage. That is especially important for under hood and in vehicle situations. Ideally I would have the Milwaukee electric crimpers, but a 5 grand tool is a hell of a hard thing to justify.
I wonder if mounting one arm of the blue crimp on a work bench could be beneficial. In the few times I've done things of that size on my own I never got a real decent crimp.
I bought a Hydraulic crimping tool , it was a 10 ton outfit, but was a pain, didn't like it , was difficult, paid over $40.00 , return it bought the hand model, definitely like . Try make #4 battery cooper cale with 3/8 eyelets, the Hydraulic gave me problems. The leverage was terrible on the Hydraulic press. Ps maybe it was a cheaper bran ?? Appreciate your advise and comments. Thanks
Mark, I hope you are well, quick question regarding my car audio setup please. Am getting a 4 channel amp JBL Club A754 and also 2 sets of 6x9 JBL Stage2 9634 3-Way. I also also looking to buy 2 sets of tweeters front and back. How do I hook up the tweeters? Can I tap them on the 4 channel amp or tap on the pioneer head unit directly or would you recommend to buy a second amp just to run the tweeters ? Please help me out ! Many thanks in advance
Yeah surely I will be sticking with my yellow case hydraulic crimper set after seeing the results of that hand crimper tool. If someone is to use that kind of crimper they probably should also solder it because of the open space left over within the lug. With the hydraulic crimper there is no space left over for solder basically making a cold weld which is the best for bigger lugs.
I have that same blue handled tool and while it works fine, I hate that it crimps unevenly leaving that 'tab' sticking out one side. Next time I use it I'm going to try leaving the mandrel unlocked and manually pre-set them evenly to see what happens. My hope is that they'll close more evenly rather than the near side closing first and pushing all the excess material out the far side.
You can also just apply enough force to partially crimp half way, then without moving the position. Just rotate your crimp & wire 180°, then finish crimping all the way through.
@@darrelldawson4823 Have you actually successfully used this process for terminal lugs, yourself? I'd like to know because I just purchased this tool. I've read through dozens and dozens of solutions to avoid the offset crimp created by this tool. Many speak about doing multiple crimps and rotating the lug, but they never say how many crimps and how much rotation. One person suggested rotating the lug by 1 rotation. That would be 360 degrees........duh.......I don't think so!
I make a lot of battery starting cables and ground cables for motorcycles and even diesel trucks and I have a love/hate relationship with my hydraulic crimpers. They were a cheap set from Amazon but they have worked fine for a few years now. The problem is they use metric dies and those are slightly different from awg. They might be too loose and thenlug pulls right off, swap to the next size down and it is so tight that it breaks half the stranded copper inside. So I have to play this trial and error game of sometimes using 2 different dies (top and bottom) and maybe easing up and adjusting how tight the crimp gets. Kind of annoying, but I've only had to redo a few crimps. Would I be happier with better tool that actually works with awg? Sure! But I got this for cheap and it works fine for now. It's fine for the 3-4 times i use it each year.
Are you crimping right next to the end of the lug? The crimps should be centered on the lug to leave a flare so it doesn’t pinch off the strands. I’ve found I still need to experiment on the crimps depending if I use standard or heavy duty lugs but thats not really the fault of the dies. I always mount the crimper in the vise so its easy to do the pull test after I make a crimp. If it starts to pull off be careful and swap out for the next size down.
I want to connect leds to my custom speaker enclosure and I want them to light up with the music rythm but I don't want to use the music leds that you can buy because their reaction time is so slow is there an easy way to connect the leds so they get a signal from the amplifier?
I use a pair of vice grips to clamp the terminal down. Then give it another half turn and repeat. 3-4 times of this and it's usually crimped down pretty solid.
Hello, sorry for my enghish, in one video you show a tool to wire a wire beetween a hardness, a little plastic like a pua of guitar, i cant find the video, can you tell me the mame of the tool?
I have that crimper and it works great! I go one extra step. I take a torch and heat the lug and pour soldier into it. Then heat shrink to seal it up. Heat shrink also gives it a professional look.
@@basstech714 want to hear the embarrassing part...I'm an electrician for over 20 years...LOL. I've rarely had to crimp on an end. All of our terminations land on lugs.
Those lever crimpers are crap! I’ve had to make battery cables on the side of the highway (I’m a diesel mechanic) with them and they do work. But you better be in good shape… The hydraulic crimpers are the way to go. Especially today when they’re the same price as a good lever crimper. However… I can say the really annoying thing about the hydraulic options is that they are almost always setup for metric wire sizes. Which is why you often have to use several different dies to crimp one lug. It would be awesome if some company would even offer just the AWG dies for this hydraulic crimpers.
I used a pair of vice grips set to almost the tightest setting for 4 g wire crimps like this for my whole set up. How bad is this be honest. I didn’t even know these tools existed until now
I bought exact this tool with metal parts included and the smallest hole of the tool was only "16" while most of the parts were for smaller cables. This makes the tool useless and it would be good to show smaller cables in the video because these will not work. I advise the tool factory to include a 6 choices round openings frame with more differences with big AND small. Now this tool can only be used with quite big cables.
hi, can you please tell me if is any gain to sound proof the floor of an bmw e64 lci of 2009 ? is a convertible. when i try to remove the floor thing i see under is very things layers from bmw... then maybe is no sse to make all the floor but the door panels sides yes ? its a 2 doors. by sound proofing my interior i mean 2 layers, 1 against vibration and the 2nd foam for sound. ;) i plan to retrofit a bmw bower and wilkins sound system with there amplifer. thank you ;)
What if you heat up the lug with a torch, fill it up with hot solder, dip in the cable and let it settle? That is a good physical connection too right? A gas torch can be had for cheap. Any negative effects when going that way that you know of?
to replace the seals would probably cost you more than buying a new one..... between the different seals the replacement oil and shipping you would just be better served to buy a new one
whats wrong with using a bench vice? I mean , if i was doing 100 of lugs, then yeah maybe invest in this shit, but for doing a couple of cars, probably get away with using a vice or hammer that i allready own.
With the blue tool, I crimp one size up, then again with the actual size. It completely eradicates the squished side of the crimp that you are getting. Nothing compared to the hydraulic varients. But decent enough for the money 💰
Great Hack!
This is great advice, thanks for sharing!
Thank you for the advice! I’m looking for reviews and noticed that this happened in some videos, now I know what to do!
When you say one size up, do you mean one size smaller or one size bigger? I’m having the same trouble with it crimping more to one side and it not holding…
@southtexasff I normally crimp with one size bigger, then crimp with the actual size. For me, it stops the horrendous side bulge happening.
another tool to use to strip large wire is actually a wheel-based pipe cutter, the one where you tighten a wheel over the copper and spin it while tightening it to eventually snap it apart
As a non professional I found this crimping tool to be easy and effective. I'm glad i bought it!
in my experience owning those blue crimpers, they are well worth the money! it's accessible, does the job more than well enough, and is fine especially if you're a DIYer! well worth the money
I've been using that mechanical style for over 20 yrs, I have the greenlee brand, they definitely work best with certain brands of lugs, mine has a label around both handles with the types, they work great, mostly used mine in commercial electrical work but used them also for car audio power cables, never had a lug come off or fail. For the average person doing a car audio system these are perfect, the price is good ( they used to be over $100 ). As for the quality of the cheaper Amazon ones I can't say, mine were made in the USA.
Place I worked used to make custom length Power Cables. We used this same tool, however, on the second crimp, we turned the lug 90° from the first crimp. We never got a come back when we did that, where as, when someone made a mistake and crimped them inline, we would always get a come back and have to redo the cable, and well, after a month in service, it generally meant having to make a brand new cable for the customer. It should be noted, generally, the power cables we made, were used in applications where the cabling had to flex back and forth, putting extra strain on the lugs.
I used a hammer crimper on the battery wires for my solar setup. It's cheap, easy and works great. Used a 4 pound hammer.
It's an attractive choice especially for a tool that's only going to be used a few times and you don't have to
"sell your first born" to get one.
I have been using these crimpers for years. They do require a lot of force but they work. Hard part is try to do the crimping on wire that is already installed in a vehicle
love your channel
been watching for years
I admire your dedication to quality craftsmanship
Appreciate that a ton. Thank you
I have been using the same exact yellow and black Amazon bought hydraulic crimper for years now. I think I'll stick to it as it does what I need for all larger lugs. Great to see how these mechanical ones do though
I have 3 different styles of crimpers and these two styles are the ones I use the most, the blue ones for small sizes like 1/0 on down and use my hydraulic ones for 2/0 and bigger
The best hid.crimper is the TEMCO TH1818 it's a Dieless crimper it makes my job easier
@@djkeys415s 100% i have a few Temco crimpers, but for the big stuff i absolutely love that TH1818.
I own both styles. The plier style crimp started to not clamp down all the way. So the cables would be loose in the lug. I had it replaced under warranty. The replacement lived about a year longer than the first but eventually did the same thing, wouldn’t crimp all the way. No visible signs of bending or wear.
In the 6 years of using my hydraulic crimp it has never failed me and the crimps are clean and straight.
100% agree they are ridiculously cheap for the amazing crimps they can make. Why is it it seems like no one wants to spend a few $ on the hydraulic crimpers? People are just throwing their money away on the jaw style you could do a better job with a punch and hammer.
@@supersportimpalass because if someone is just doing a one-off installation in their own vehicle, they don't want to splurge hundreds on a hydraulic crimper for like 4 crimps
@@supersportimpalass just by pure price comparison, you can get the whole manual crimper along with a set of like 100 assorted copper lugs for a good bit cheaper than what it costs to get even some generic hydraulic crimper. Not even remotely worth it if it's a single installation with max of 2-3 uses in multiple years.
Also punch and hammer do not do any better of a job, not to mention they take far more effort, noisy, impractical and again, cost as much as something that's faster, silent, easier to use and gives same results majority of the time
@@LochyP bruh that hydraulic crimper is like 60 bucks
I have that crimper it's never given me an off side crimp I use it on 2ga,4ga, and 8ga I love it it's awesome and quick.
Wish I would have known the hydraulic crimper is so affordable before buying the big pry bar one. Great tip.
Been using the blue handle crimper for like two years. I’ve had no problems.
Same here
Great item for the price
The best budget crimper is the TEMCo Hammer Lug Crimper. I used it professionally for a couple decades and still keep one around for the occasional install.
Is it the best crimper ever made? No. But it’s the best for the lowest cost.
I have the hydraulic crimper and I love it. It's a beast for sure.
I have the same crimpers and get the same results. I have resorted to doing a partial crimp, then rotating the lug and finishing the crimp. Because of the narrow die, I have to do this twice on every crimp. Not the most productive, but for the frequency of use, it's workable. I use anchor brand terminals so theoretically not chinese junk.
You were born for this man!
That's a beautiful floor you have in your kitchen Mark!
I came searching to see if others had off-center crimps on lower gage wires with this tool and you seem to have the exact same issue. My 6ga crimps create a "tab" on one side a little more severe than your 4ga demo. They are locked tight and won't slip but I don't like the offset crushed tab this creates. I will use a size larger now on for my 6ga to see if that improves things. Just visual spotting of the 6ga die setting it looks way too small an opening. Thanks for posting this.. it was helpful.
Not a bad price for either. You can also use a dull railroad spike & a hammer on an anvil & actually get really good results. 2 divots on one side, one on the other right in the middle
I have the hydraulic crimper for the KnuKonceptz 4/0 wire. Just a heads up for anyone that wants to get the hydraulic crimper with the 4/0, you're gonna need a smaller pin as the wire/terminals don't fit through, even with the 4/0 dyes with the crimpers
I went to Menards and got a heavy duty bolt that was slightly smaller than the pin with the crimper
Get the temco TH1818 and it will make quick work of 4awg
My diy solution is a brake line flare clamp, bolts replaced with grade 9 and use an impact driver to tighten. If using outside the car I put it in a vice. However this looks like a decent affordable tool, thanks for sharing
Flare clamp, thanks for the tip!
Try this style of crimper , $51.00 and works great used them for years. Kh-150 Large Gauge Ring Terminal Crimper 24" Wire Crimping Tool 8awg-250mcm
I just tried KnuKonceptz for the first time and definitely high quality wire. I do have the blue crimper and had I known I would use them so much would've went hydraulic. But blue ones work
I bought a hammer-style crimper to make new battery cables for my truck, using marine 2/0 cables and marine heat-shrink tubing. I made all the cables off the truck so working on the ground was fine. If I had to crimp in the vehicle I would get hydraulic crimpers.
I had those mechanical crimpers. I broke the dies twice. I bought the hydraulic ones and havent had a problem since.
I've had pretty decent results with a 4 pound sledge and a hammer set crimper It's not as nice as a ratcheting crimper, but a crimper for 1/0 wire is quite a bit more expensive than one that maxes out at 8AWG
@@martinwhite418 well it sure passes the pull test, it is absolutely not coming loose. I never measured the resistance of the crimp, but I used that on the battery cables on my V8 truck which has a 2KW starter and it has worked fine for 2 years.
Some crimpers are calibrated in millimeters instead of AWG. The millimeter ones don't crimp properly.
It is great to see videos answering common questions that are always asked. The last one that talked about feeling let down by your aftermarket speaker choice this one about crimping I don't know if you've done any videos about game setting that is another pretty common question asked. Maybe things that are wire related. Such as through a firewall best place to route wires how to make wires look clean at the amp.
Pretty sure he has done multiples vids of each of those topics.
I’ve used this crimper and it’s worth it. Works quite well.
The jaws or hydraulic one?Because the jaw style makes the worst crimps I’ve ever seen. 😂
@@supersportimpalass I don’t like the look much either but it still works good enough.
User error in your case.
my sledge and hammer crimp tool have done just fine...just use the back of the vice instead of the floor :)
I've been on using this and I double crimp and haven't had an issue. Sometimes I even go to the next smaller lug for the second crimp.
Get a vice grip on it good, then use another wrench to tighten the vice one turn or until very tight. Makes a great connection
Them cheap hammer crimp tools work great in a vise!!
I bought one of these they crimp more 2 one side because that's how it crimps.
What I do is reverse side for each crimp. I have always done a double crimp and reverse 180 degrees for each. Also I have never had any problems
I use pliers by crimping one side of the connector then the same on the opposite side. The top one overlaps and then I soldered the wire to the connector.
I use a small bench vice and a little solder. Hold the eye of the lug in the vice, heat the lug up, and melt a little solder into it. Insert the wire into the lug and push while opening the vise up till the barrel of the lug is in the jaws of the vice then tighten the vice. I thought those tools were way more expensive, I'd probably buy the cheaper one because it's easier to store in a tool chest. I guess getting a set of dies and useing my 20-ton shop press would be overkill, would be the best takes less space option.
I use the blue handle jobs as part of my workout routine, since I don’t go to the gym (but I should).
Would it make sense to do the second crimp at a right angle to the first one?
CAF, I crimp wires with the Burndy Patriot 750. I Am trying to buy the Patriot 750 T3. It has a bluetooth app that will tell you if the crimp was proper or not.
Indent crimlers are not ideal.
The Patriot 750 will create what is known as a "Cold Weld".
Check out the youtube vids. We don't use those lightweight copper lugs either. We use Burndy or Thomas&Betts.
Not cheap. But reliable.
Hey, I know this hasn't particularly anything to do with the video but I thought you guys might help.
I''ve started with getting a single din headunit called " Pioneer MVH 280-FD ". and so I connected everything and everything was playing allright, until, I went over a certain volume and the clipping started. I quickly researched that this particular headunit needed a separate 12V from the battery to run since it was a high power headunit.
I Installed the 12V directly from the battery and I was still using the cars ground/negative wire from the factory wiring harness.
This fixed the problem for a little while, that is until the headunit started running a little bit hot that the clipping would come back. So i thought that the ground wasn't good enough from the car itself and so I ran a ground directly to the car chassis (in-turn losing the remote turn-on/off)
That had the same result basically as before, headunit went hot and clipping came back.
Could it be that this particular headunit needs both the positive and negative to run from the battery because this is my last idea and I don't know what else to do.
I'm only running the pioneer headunit, no other amps are connected. Just plain simple headunit with 4 speakers and 2 tweeters.
Sorry for the long message but I thought it would be best to explain thoroughly
Making only the positive wire a better connection won't help much, if at all, both need to be made better. Ground is usually easy, just run it to any nearby screw in a metal portion of the dash or firewall.
I struggle with the offset crimp that you had. Some even end up with 2 wings if the lug is slightly larger. Love the Knu cables, and their RCAs
Oh I hate that wings on my crimps that wy I got the temco TH1818 FROM amizon no changing dies
Looks like a quality crimping tool (just saw it in another Y-T video) but recently I decided *I* needed to get a serious large-cable crimping tool (was using an "anvil" type you hit with a hammer -- works, but a bit imprecise) and came across a hydraulic crimper @ Harbor Freight ($70 seemed a nice price, too). The included dies go up to AWG 1/0 cable so I guess anything heavier would need those larger dies (if even available) or I'd have to get another/large hydraulic crimper.
But for now, the 1/0 size cable limit is fine, as my 2000W 12v PSW inverter uses 1/0 cable, and my other 12v PSW inverters use AWG 4 & 6 -- so I'm covered.
I might get a 1500W inverter in the future, and if so that'd use AWG 2 cable so I'm good there also.
-- BR
Great video, Mark! What's your take on adding in solder into the lugs as well for big stuff like battery cables? It seems a lot do and a lot don't.
Buy the hydraulic crimper you won’t need to use solder. Using the correct dies the cable and lug will actually cold weld together. There’s a reason why the majority of factory connections don’t use solder as it isn’t needed and doesn’t make the connection any better.
A correct crimp (die size matched to terminal size) does not need solder, but some cars and aircraft solder the crimp AFTER it is made. BUT it’s overkill for car Stereo work IF you size the crimper correctly.
@@supersportimpalass In some instances solder can actually make the connection worse. The solder solidifies the connector making it brittle and in a car that is subject to vibrations, heat, and flexing, it can break the connection. I had that happen on a few connections in my car before I decided to stick to crimping.
It's preference. I know someone that'll solder and then crimp. My coworkers like to solder and not crimp.
I'm the odd one out at work since crimp and no solder is my go to method.
Quick tip, when crimping large wires or even smaller wires start as far as possible away from the connector of the lug if you have a shallow crimper.
I did 300mm^2 copper and 400mm^2 AL wires in wind turbines and we crimped twice on each lug starting from the wire side and second crimp closer to the lug end.
Never had to redo the crimp after QA looked at it.
Priceless
My hex crimper does the same odd crimp if the lug isn’t a tight fit on the wire. And Im experimenting if the lug doesn’t crimp tight enough I’ll turn one die down a size, not sure if it’ll give the crimp a good solid cross section, trying different things, don’t want buy another crimping tool.
The crazy part is this budget crimper came across my feed and my first thought before purchasing was let me run it back to CAF and see what tool he was using
Concrete and sledgehammer for my first build, now doing a full trunk build for my girlfriends car but didn’t know how much use it would see afterwards, but I’m not doing the sledgehammer and concrete method for this one. By getting my girl another car, my backseat is finally coming out…for more subs…more wire….so!
The lever style crimpers are definitely faster. But I think the hydraulic crimpers are better overall since they require less leverage. That is especially important for under hood and in vehicle situations. Ideally I would have the Milwaukee electric crimpers, but a 5 grand tool is a hell of a hard thing to justify.
Agreed 100%
I have been using the type of lugs with setscrews reusable and they work maybe a little more expensive
I wonder if mounting one arm of the blue crimp on a work bench could be beneficial. In the few times I've done things of that size on my own I never got a real decent crimp.
I got one of those for my alternator wire
I bought a Hydraulic crimping tool , it was a 10 ton outfit, but was a pain, didn't like it , was difficult, paid over $40.00 , return it bought the hand model, definitely like . Try make #4 battery cooper cale with 3/8 eyelets, the Hydraulic gave me problems. The leverage was terrible on the Hydraulic press. Ps maybe it was a cheaper bran ?? Appreciate your advise and comments. Thanks
Mark, I hope you are well, quick question regarding my car audio setup please.
Am getting a 4 channel amp JBL Club A754 and also 2 sets of 6x9 JBL Stage2 9634 3-Way. I also also looking to buy 2 sets of tweeters front and back. How do I hook up the tweeters? Can I tap them on the 4 channel amp or tap on the pioneer head unit directly or would you recommend to buy a second amp just to run the tweeters ?
Please help me out !
Many thanks in advance
Yeah surely I will be sticking with my yellow case hydraulic crimper set after seeing the results of that hand crimper tool. If someone is to use that kind of crimper they probably should also solder it because of the open space left over within the lug. With the hydraulic crimper there is no space left over for solder basically making a cold weld which is the best for bigger lugs.
I have that same blue handled tool and while it works fine, I hate that it crimps unevenly leaving that 'tab' sticking out one side. Next time I use it I'm going to try leaving the mandrel unlocked and manually pre-set them evenly to see what happens. My hope is that they'll close more evenly rather than the near side closing first and pushing all the excess material out the far side.
You can also just apply enough force to partially crimp half way, then without moving the position. Just rotate your crimp & wire 180°, then finish crimping all the way through.
I've done that rotation trick while crimping tons of stop sleaves onto steel cables for fire suppression systems
One could probably also align the lug in the crimper so the "sticking out" part is facing down or away so it's not visible.
@@darrelldawson4823 Have you actually successfully used this process for terminal lugs, yourself? I'd like to know because I just purchased this tool. I've read through dozens and dozens of solutions to avoid the offset crimp created by this tool. Many speak about doing multiple crimps and rotating the lug, but they never say how many crimps and how much rotation. One person suggested rotating the lug by 1 rotation. That would be 360 degrees........duh.......I don't think so!
I have a hamer stile crimper and I have donde tons of jobs with it and hasnt fails me yet for 3 years
And the blue crimper over here is 50-60$ and the yellow on is around $80-100 on ebay I live in PR
I make a lot of battery starting cables and ground cables for motorcycles and even diesel trucks and I have a love/hate relationship with my hydraulic crimpers. They were a cheap set from Amazon but they have worked fine for a few years now. The problem is they use metric dies and those are slightly different from awg. They might be too loose and thenlug pulls right off, swap to the next size down and it is so tight that it breaks half the stranded copper inside. So I have to play this trial and error game of sometimes using 2 different dies (top and bottom) and maybe easing up and adjusting how tight the crimp gets. Kind of annoying, but I've only had to redo a few crimps.
Would I be happier with better tool that actually works with awg? Sure! But I got this for cheap and it works fine for now. It's fine for the 3-4 times i use it each year.
Are you crimping right next to the end of the lug? The crimps should be centered on the lug to leave a flare so it doesn’t pinch off the strands. I’ve found I still need to experiment on the crimps depending if I use standard or heavy duty lugs but thats not really the fault of the dies. I always mount the crimper in the vise so its easy to do the pull test after I make a crimp. If it starts to pull off be careful and swap out for the next size down.
Can you use that wire for solar set ups.
I have a pair like this and I bent mine... Hydraulic is the best way to go.
I want to connect leds to my custom speaker enclosure and I want them to light up with the music rythm but I don't want to use the music leds that you can buy because their reaction time is so slow is there an easy way to connect the leds so they get a signal from the amplifier?
I have this exact crimper it's Amazon special and its freaking mint. Does all the common sizes for audio.
I really wish I looked more into this before I decided to purchase my Greenlee EK622PLX. 😂
I use a pair of vice grips to clamp the terminal down. Then give it another half turn and repeat. 3-4 times of this and it's usually crimped down pretty solid.
Hello, sorry for my enghish, in one video you show a tool to wire a wire beetween a hardness, a little plastic like a pua of guitar, i cant find the video, can you tell me the mame of the tool?
What did you set that too for 4g wire
What lugs do you recommend?
Nice tool
I have those wire crimpers and cutters
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What websites do you use to download high rez music i found it kinda confusing to find a good one
Is puddling the caps with solder not a thing for solid connections anymore? What is going on?
I've always used flux and solder on my ends with heat shrink. Never had it fail me.
What causes little wings on crimped lugs
13$ hammer crimper works perfectly fine and fast
How much and where I can buy it?
I have that crimper and it works great! I go one extra step. I take a torch and heat the lug and pour soldier into it. Then heat shrink to seal it up. Heat shrink also gives it a professional look.
Using flux gives some additional resitance and is britttle
@@1ssac1 interesting. I thought it would be a far better connection. Noted and thank you.
@@basstech714 you have to empty your cup and make room for new knowledge.
@@basstech714 want to hear the embarrassing part...I'm an electrician for over 20 years...LOL. I've rarely had to crimp on an end. All of our terminations land on lugs.
Make a quality crimp you won’t need solder.
Those lever crimpers are crap! I’ve had to make battery cables on the side of the highway (I’m a diesel mechanic) with them and they do work. But you better be in good shape…
The hydraulic crimpers are the way to go. Especially today when they’re the same price as a good lever crimper.
However… I can say the really annoying thing about the hydraulic options is that they are almost always setup for metric wire sizes. Which is why you often have to use several different dies to crimp one lug. It would be awesome if some company would even offer just the AWG dies for this hydraulic crimpers.
I used a pair of vice grips set to almost the tightest setting for 4 g wire crimps like this for my whole set up. How bad is this be honest. I didn’t even know these tools existed until now
If you buy the same capacity hydraulic crimper the price firrfence is negligible and is a much more ergonomic tool if you crimp alot of wires.
I use a ball bearing and a bench vise
I bought exact this tool with metal parts included and the smallest hole of the tool was only "16" while most of the parts were for smaller cables.
This makes the tool useless and it would be good to show smaller cables in the video because these will not work. I advise the tool factory to include a 6 choices round openings frame with more differences with big AND small. Now this tool can only be used with quite big cables.
hi, can you please tell me if is any gain to sound proof the floor of an bmw e64 lci of 2009 ? is a convertible. when i try to remove the floor thing i see under is very things layers from bmw...
then maybe is no sse to make all the floor but the door panels sides yes ? its a 2 doors.
by sound proofing my interior i mean 2 layers, 1 against vibration and the 2nd foam for sound. ;)
i plan to retrofit a bmw bower and wilkins sound system with there amplifer.
thank you ;)
What if you heat up the lug with a torch, fill it up with hot solder, dip in the cable and let it settle? That is a good physical connection too right? A gas torch can be had for cheap. Any negative effects when going that way that you know of?
Solder adds resistance. Seen a video where soldered connections lost some voltage compared to not using it
Hey mark have you ever done any SPL builds I enjoy SQ but I’ve always been with SPL like the 140-160db builds and shaking the whole car😂
Definitely done some loud builds! Here's one from the channel ruclips.net/video/UR7bsKxiwgY/видео.html
Crimp one way then twist it and crimp again. Gets rid of the wing
the first cable is 35mm2 section. I think the gouge measures are not good in this tool. mine one is in mm2
Cool 😎
What if I don’t want to buy a crimper and already have solder and a torch in the barn, that should be about as good if not better than crimping right?
typically, just experiment
Please does anyone know what size I need to replace the seals on the yellow hydrolic. I've had mine for 5-6yrs and it gave out but I wanna save it
to replace the seals would probably cost you more than buying a new one..... between the different seals the replacement oil and shipping you would just be better served to buy a new one
Hydraulic is nice, the manual ones blow to use, the corddieless ones are the shit.
whats wrong with using a bench vice? I mean , if i was doing 100 of lugs, then yeah maybe invest in this shit, but for doing a couple of cars, probably get away with using a vice or hammer that i allready own.
How’d you know I use a sledgehammer on concrete 😂
I just use the wire stripping tool or some pliers...
I literally bought the blue ones last month from aliexpress😂
Guilty! I've used a hammer! Haha! Other times I've used a ton of solder. Haha!
The 4g problem is the lug was too big for the wire, I have that problem when it doesn't match adequately