Went back to the video on the White Settlement TX church shooting because this video reminded me of Jack Wilson's posture when he fired the shot that stopped the active shooter. I think it's a real world example of today's lesson -- Jack kept his head neck and back straight and brought his pistol up to his eye rather than craning his head down. Sharing it with my ASP friends. Thank you, John.
A lot of shooters don't do it that way.... But I've seen SEVERAL spec ops guys say they bring the rifle to their cheek so they don't ever have to move their head. A LOT of wisdom in that concept.
Jedi does an outstanding job of going through how the anatomy can be a huge help because..... everything is jiu jitsu. 😎👊❤️🥋🤼♀️ Great examples given, thank you! Keep yourselves safe! Randy
This is so true, and I'm very glad I heard this from you! While part of my channel may be about firearms, I am a hobbyist. I am not a pro shooter by any means. I was doing the shooting portion for a certification/license I was getting, and with an unfamiliar handgun in my hand, I instinctively leaned my head down. I was hitting the target, but nothing fantastic. The instructor walked up behind me and simply said, "lift your head up." Oh my gosh... What a difference. I was practically drilling the same hole over and over again and got top shot in the class just from that.
I did martial arts for 15+yrs. And I lift nearly daily. I can tell you from personal experience and instructorship that THIS principle of straight/natural head position will take your punching power to the next level. AND your lifts, specifically bench and deads, will increase. Try it.
I've been seeing more USPSA shooter using the head up position at matches, but this is the best explanation on why people have better recoil control with a more erect stance.
I’ve been shooting my rifle like that for a while now and love it I have a 15 inch hand guard in my ar15 and I put my support hand out as far as possible and I will push with that hand and somewhat pull with my trigger hand to keep recoil down and the gun steady. So much better for fast accurate shooting
Great breakdown, Johnny John. Might you consider handgun work for people using the upper focal shooting glasses? To see the front sight, they kinda have to look through the top focal part to see their front sight clearly. The target will of course, be blurry when doing so. Works differently with a rifle and red dot or LPVO.
@@ASPextra Check the SST eyewear, I think they're called, up in Moses Lake, Wash. They put whatever power change you need low on the lens like bifocals or high in the lens, for shooters vultured down on the gun and looking through the top of the lens.
Hmm, one could argue there are other buffers out there that will accomplish the same thing without having to replace the buffer tube and spring thus locking it to one weapon and requiring smithing. The LARB comes to mind.
I think the head up position is probably a better stance but priming the subject ALWAYS leads to increased resistance on the second test no matter what the motion being tried is. The only takeaway here is take this stance to the range and see if it works for you.
Even if this were a valid test, you can keep your head up and still shoulder the rifle correctly. It isn't either/or. In fact, that's why AR15 sights are so tall. Put the stock in your shoulder, and keep your head up.
For those with short necks maybe but even then, they’ll still probably need a taller mount. Pretty much anything over lower 1/3 and even then you’ll still have to put the gun higher on your shoulder. The exact combination or lack there of is dependent on a person’s exact body however.
During WW II the hand to hand combat instructor chose my father to do his demonstration because my father, at 6'4," was the largest man in the platoon. My father stood with his legs apart, and the instructor couldn't knock him over, trying as hard as he might. This and John's demonstration shows that with proper knowledge, the body is amazingly structurally strong!
Out of everyone, one is wearing a mask and it's around their chin. If your rhetoric is centered around protecting ourselves and our loved ones, shouldn't you also be taking action that doesn't involve a firearm to care for those people? Not wearing a mask endangers you, your family, and every other human being you come into contact with. I don't get how you educate firearm technique for the purpose of saving lives while actively risking lives. Irresponsible to say the least.
How do you know they did not all just get tested and all came back negative? How do you know they don't all have a mask in their pocket, and the instant they walk out of their controlled environment (an environment which probably has an excellent air ventilation system designed to pull air out of the room to control powder smoke) they put them on? You're seeing just one part of their lives, and know nothing about the rest of it.
@@ThatDeltaBravo Let's break this down point by point. A.1) That is not the most likely scenario, but I'll grant you that it's not impossible. However, do you genuinely believe it's likely that they all individually tested, communicated the results of the tests to each other, and then decided it was safe to film the video? I think the simpler and much more likely explanation is the opposite, but neither of us can make a definitive claim here so it's a somewhat moot point. A.2) Even if they had been tested and decided to film based on those results, rapid testing is highly inaccurate and by no means a reason to shrug off additional safety precaution because a test came back negative on any given day. Rapid tests come back positive when a person is at the peak of their viral load, and are far less accurate both before and after that peak.
@@ThatDeltaBravo B.1) If they all had a mask in their pocket, why not wear one while filming in such a close indoor environment? A mask, like a seatbelt, only works when one is using it, not when it's just sitting there. B.2) Again, I'll grant you that the range likely does have good ventilation. As to the particle specificity and flow rate both of us would be speculating so it's not that useful. Either way the metaconceptual point that is lost here is that safety precautions are not mutually exclusive and are instead inherently combinatorial. Do you wear a seatbelt? Then why use blinkers? Why have airbags? Why have ABS? Automobile safety and pandemic precautions are different beasts, but both rely on having multiple features that together improve safety.
C.1) You are correct, this is a short snippet of their lives on camera, however that really has little bearing on the concerns I raised. COVID can be spread from brief interactions (www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6943e1.htm?s_cid=mm6943e1_w) especially indoors and when people are not wearing masks. If one or multiple of these individuals is asymptomatic, all of them could now be infected due to the fact that they are all talking, touching, and breathing in a small (albeit ventilated) concrete box. C.2) Ultimately this boils down to a question of cognitive dissonance regarding safety and the value of human lives. I've been following ASP for a while now and have definitely gotten some valuable insights. Everything I've seen on the channel has emphasized that we need to be learning these skills to protect ourselves and those around us. This is fundamentally opposite to not wearing a mask around those we know and care about. That behavior puts the people closest to us in harm's way, not to mention literally every other person they come into contact with could also get infected, and that person's loved ones could get it and so on ad infinitum.
C.3) I ask you Delta and the community as a whole, what is the value of a human life? Given everything I've heard on this channel, it sounds like everyone here would be willing to go to extreme lengths to protect one. So why are you unwilling to do a small thing for the same reasons?
Went back to the video on the White Settlement TX church shooting because this video reminded me of Jack Wilson's posture when he fired the shot that stopped the active shooter. I think it's a real world example of today's lesson -- Jack kept his head neck and back straight and brought his pistol up to his eye rather than craning his head down.
Sharing it with my ASP friends. Thank you, John.
A lot of shooters don't do it that way....
But I've seen SEVERAL spec ops guys say they bring the rifle to their cheek so they don't ever have to move their head.
A LOT of wisdom in that concept.
Awesome I show this all the time. Absolutely comes to light for experienced martial artists
Ok wow. Never knew this, but it makes sense. I will be heading to range and trying this out. Thanks
Nailed the khaki cargo requirements.. excellent work guys!
I was using an upright position for comfort, but this is a neat exercise. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you Active Self-Protection team!
Jedi does an outstanding job of going through how the anatomy
can be a huge help because..... everything is jiu jitsu. 😎👊❤️🥋🤼♀️
Great examples given, thank you!
Keep yourselves safe!
Randy
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Thank you sooooo much for this video! Will be sharing with as many people as possible. I can’t stress this enough
Wow this is such an eye openner!!!! Thanks!!!
wow!!! this is the best demonstration I've seen for using structure to control recoil.
Glad it was helpful!
This is so true, and I'm very glad I heard this from you! While part of my channel may be about firearms, I am a hobbyist. I am not a pro shooter by any means. I was doing the shooting portion for a certification/license I was getting, and with an unfamiliar handgun in my hand, I instinctively leaned my head down. I was hitting the target, but nothing fantastic. The instructor walked up behind me and simply said, "lift your head up." Oh my gosh... What a difference. I was practically drilling the same hole over and over again and got top shot in the class just from that.
I teach this constantly! Love to see some one else teaching the same thing!! :)
I did martial arts for 15+yrs. And I lift nearly daily.
I can tell you from personal experience and instructorship that THIS principle of straight/natural head position will take your punching power to the next level. AND your lifts, specifically bench and deads, will increase.
Try it.
Yep, the power generation is ridiculously different! (but that's a different lesson!)
I've been seeing more USPSA shooter using the head up position at matches, but this is the best explanation on why people have better recoil control with a more erect stance.
I’ve been shooting my rifle like that for a while now and love it I have a 15 inch hand guard in my ar15 and I put my support hand out as far as possible and I will push with that hand and somewhat pull with my trigger hand to keep recoil down and the gun steady. So much better for fast accurate shooting
Great breakdown, Johnny John. Might you consider handgun work for people using the upper focal shooting glasses? To see the front sight, they kinda have to look through the top focal part to see their front sight clearly. The target will of course, be blurry when doing so. Works differently with a rifle and red dot or LPVO.
Unless they're using bifocals.
@@ASPextra Check the SST eyewear, I think they're called, up in Moses Lake, Wash. They put whatever power change you need low on the lens like bifocals or high in the lens, for shooters vultured down on the gun and looking through the top of the lens.
Probably the most insightful shooting vid I've seen in a while!
Could we see a video on "push/pull" with the rifle too? Am I correct that that is what you do instead of just pulling back?
I will work on that.
@@ASPextra You da best John!
Love the Princess Bride reference!! 😂
Inconceivable!
Have fun storming the castle! 👋
Great video...scott jedi always talks about how much of bjj he took to firearms
He's the one who first really got me to look at shooting as a martial art.
@@ASPextra body structure makes a big difference
Nice shirt SDCGO!
Yep!
Best way to eliminate recoil on an AR-15 is to get the Vltor A5 buffer system, but you'll be spoiled!
Hmm, one could argue there are other buffers out there that will accomplish the same thing without having to replace the buffer tube and spring thus locking it to one weapon and requiring smithing. The LARB comes to mind.
I was just about to order one of these this morning. Was looking at them before I watched the video
Why not grab a full auto lower and put it to the test? Nothing shows how good your recoil control is like full auto.
I don't have one is why. :)
Figured you’d have access to one. Full disclosure I believe your technique has merit.
The light bulb has come on brightly! That's an epiphany that everyone should know and try for themselves.
🤙 thanks everyone great info
Our pleasure!
Good stuff. People gotta learn to try different things to learn what works for them.
I think the head up position is probably a better stance but priming the subject ALWAYS leads to increased resistance on the second test no matter what the motion being tried is. The only takeaway here is take this stance to the range and see if it works for you.
I can do it in reverse and the same thing happens.
@@ASPextra That sounds pretty convincing. I'm planning on trying the stance either way, it looks like it'll be markedly better.
Even if this were a valid test, you can keep your head up and still shoulder the rifle correctly. It isn't either/or. In fact, that's why AR15 sights are so tall. Put the stock in your shoulder, and keep your head up.
Won’t work.
For those with short necks maybe but even then, they’ll still probably need a taller mount. Pretty much anything over lower 1/3 and even then you’ll still have to put the gun higher on your shoulder. The exact combination or lack there of is dependent on a person’s exact body however.
I dont know man, DI SSGT Morris told me to keep my giraffe neck down lmao
Haha!
Look at all those hiking shoes and khakis
During WW II the hand to hand combat instructor chose my father to do his demonstration because my father, at 6'4," was the largest man in the platoon. My father stood with his legs apart, and the instructor couldn't knock him over, trying as hard as he might. This and John's demonstration shows that with proper knowledge, the body is amazingly structurally strong!
Sigh. A change has been happening since KS. Because science.
Out of everyone, one is wearing a mask and it's around their chin. If your rhetoric is centered around protecting ourselves and our loved ones, shouldn't you also be taking action that doesn't involve a firearm to care for those people? Not wearing a mask endangers you, your family, and every other human being you come into contact with. I don't get how you educate firearm technique for the purpose of saving lives while actively risking lives. Irresponsible to say the least.
How do you know they did not all just get tested and all came back negative? How do you know they don't all have a mask in their pocket, and the instant they walk out of their controlled environment (an environment which probably has an excellent air ventilation system designed to pull air out of the room to control powder smoke) they put them on? You're seeing just one part of their lives, and know nothing about the rest of it.
@@ThatDeltaBravo Let's break this down point by point. A.1) That is not the most likely scenario, but I'll grant you that it's not impossible. However, do you genuinely believe it's likely that they all individually tested, communicated the results of the tests to each other, and then decided it was safe to film the video? I think the simpler and much more likely explanation is the opposite, but neither of us can make a definitive claim here so it's a somewhat moot point. A.2) Even if they had been tested and decided to film based on those results, rapid testing is highly inaccurate and by no means a reason to shrug off additional safety precaution because a test came back negative on any given day. Rapid tests come back positive when a person is at the peak of their viral load, and are far less accurate both before and after that peak.
@@ThatDeltaBravo B.1) If they all had a mask in their pocket, why not wear one while filming in such a close indoor environment? A mask, like a seatbelt, only works when one is using it, not when it's just sitting there. B.2) Again, I'll grant you that the range likely does have good ventilation. As to the particle specificity and flow rate both of us would be speculating so it's not that useful. Either way the metaconceptual point that is lost here is that safety precautions are not mutually exclusive and are instead inherently combinatorial. Do you wear a seatbelt? Then why use blinkers? Why have airbags? Why have ABS? Automobile safety and pandemic precautions are different beasts, but both rely on having multiple features that together improve safety.
C.1) You are correct, this is a short snippet of their lives on camera, however that really has little bearing on the concerns I raised. COVID can be spread from brief interactions (www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6943e1.htm?s_cid=mm6943e1_w) especially indoors and when people are not wearing masks. If one or multiple of these individuals is asymptomatic, all of them could now be infected due to the fact that they are all talking, touching, and breathing in a small (albeit ventilated) concrete box. C.2) Ultimately this boils down to a question of cognitive dissonance regarding safety and the value of human lives. I've been following ASP for a while now and have definitely gotten some valuable insights. Everything I've seen on the channel has emphasized that we need to be learning these skills to protect ourselves and those around us. This is fundamentally opposite to not wearing a mask around those we know and care about. That behavior puts the people closest to us in harm's way, not to mention literally every other person they come into contact with could also get infected, and that person's loved ones could get it and so on ad infinitum.
C.3) I ask you Delta and the community as a whole, what is the value of a human life? Given everything I've heard on this channel, it sounds like everyone here would be willing to go to extreme lengths to protect one. So why are you unwilling to do a small thing for the same reasons?