Joined a Tai Chi School and attended classes every week practicing every day. For two years I learned the basic movements but had no clue about “chi”. Then, I went to a week long Qigong training and presto, I realized energetic movements. Then, after years of Yang style I began Chen with a Master teacher who taught applications I.e, Taijiquan and push hands. It took at least five years of steady practice to gain enough experience to even know what this video is all about. For those who enjoy Tai Chi, get some books, listen to teachers who have practiced a long time, and work with as many superior practitioners as possible. I even went to China and lived there a year and a half to gain more knowledge. After 25 years I practice, I feel like I’ve only gained a limited knowledge of these beautiful movements. Combine deep breathing, concentration of the mind and physical conditioning to create intention of energetic direction.
After listening to these lectures on Tai Chi I finally feel like I have some grasp of its underlying concepts and how it is distinct from the other internal arts like Xingyi and Bagua. I've not been fortunate enough to meet any Tai Chi practitioner who was concerned with training in the system as a traditional martial art instead of as a health or meditative practice and always felt I had a very large gap in my knowledge of the internal arts which I love so much. I find the historical connection between the 8 gates/forces and the I-Ching fascinating and this breakdown has helped me form some connections between my Bagua knowledge and Tai Chi. I realize they are in fact different conceptually but now I at least can see some commonality between the underlying frameworks. It's great that you're presenting this information and trying to do away with some of the mystical ideas which have become intertwined with Tai Chi in the modern age and I hope other practitioners will be inspired to delve deeper into their practice and lift it from the realm of New Age nonsense. Thank you for sharing your knowledge so generously, Sifu. I hope you and yours are well.
I want to again thank you for putting out these videos. I'm a practitioner of Taiji and Yi Ching study but I mostly have to rely on reading and the internet for where I learn as I do not have teachers in my direct area as I live in the mountains. These videos are like a comprehensive lecture series and that is a great treasure for someone like myself. I've done what I can to share them around the Taiji community online. Bow and salute.
Master Yang, Thank you for routing me back to this video. It answered a lot of questions. I do hope that you make a more substantial video about Eight-Gate Energy.
Excellent lecture. I had an opportunity to train in Wu/Hao style briefly in 2018 with Zhong Zhenshan at Guangfu Village in Handan. His 2 hour lecture one afternoon was as insightful and historically accurate as Master Hai Yang's.
Excellent as always Master Yang. Thank you so much for another very informative lecture. Your explanations help very much to clarify that which is so often clouded in mystery. It is indeed such a great pity that something so profound and grounded in solid natural principles can become so convoluted. Thankfully researchers such as yourself and notable others are working hard to show Taijiquan for what it is and the potential that it can offer with appropriately guided effort...🙏
Thank you for your comments. Yes, we should not let tai chi become so convoluted. We should promote this art by sharing more information with others. Thanks.
Very enlightening and brilliant mister Yang! Much gratitude for the time you take explaining in those videos. That could explains why Wu Tunan when he visited Chen Jiagou didn't find anything about the 13 postures and when he finally met Chen Fake in Beijing, mister Chen said he didn't call his practice taijiquan but Chen family boxing...
Clear historical references and explanations as usual, thank you very much. I didn't really understand the Zhou explanation, I have been taught it meant elbow stroke too. It always seemed unusually specific, so your research revealing a wider meaning of upward and or uprooting energy is very interesting. The same could apply to shoulder stroke. I'm yet to learn more about that. My Taiji teacher, who has 50 years experience, says there is a completely separate practice to discover, understand and develop shoulder stroke. He always says to me that the Taiji form is to learn and practise the principles. Then you learn applications and others aspects through other drills and practices such as push hands, meditation etc. The form is training, not actual application or use, whether it's for martial or health objectives, or both. Although, the practice of a Taiji form will provide various benefits despite not being developed to a high level or perfected. It seems to me that the concepts and explanations often create more confusion than clarity. Without doing the hard work of tens of thousands of hours of practice, it's extremely difficult to have a workable understanding of these principles, let alone mastering any of them. Nothing of great value ever comes easy :-)
Interesting thoughts. The term Zhou as meaning elbow can makes sense if it's referring to using the elbow as a leverage point, instead of the hand, which is employed in many techniques in Erlu.
Really happy you are doing videos in English more as its hard to find authenticity these days. Your English is very good since these recent videos. Thanks for broadening the Chinese culture amongst us westerners. Have you any knowledge on master liu yunqiao baji as I have been training under the wutan uk affiliation for over ten years which follows his lineage through decendant they soon tuan who has passed. Unfortunately never met him so my history on the topic is limited. Thank you
Hello, thank you for your comments. In preparing those videos, it helps me improving my English, so I will be able to communicate with others easier. I do not have enough information about Liu Yunqiao's line. I know Huo style Baiji and Wu style Baiji people a lot. Especially Wu style Baji was a very popular one in Tianjin after Wu Xiufeng moved to Tianjin to teach, and there have been many Baji practitioners in my hometown... Thanks.
Extremely Refreshing!!! De-mystifying lends credibility. You have made the essentials understandable, and this will help the practice. I have a quick question which you can please clarify: DO The 5 elements of wood, fire metal earth water refer to methods of body postures or attack? Ian Sinclair seemed to explain this, and it made sense. If so, then depending on which element is represented in the opponents attack, we would use the counter element style to defeat it? Does this make sense and is it correct? Can you please do a video showing the 5 elements usage in practical movements/attacks defense etc. And then how they counter each other. Thank you so much!
Hello, thank you for sharing your experiences and research, it helps going deeper in the practice, my question is about the 5 directions, why up and down is not included and makes 7 directions, thanks
The information and presentation is so tightly scripted and organised that I would invite you to also post a text transcript in the description, or via a web page. I read extremely fast, and I would like to read this information in text form.
This is the second time I have heard you say lu as lui. The first time was when you pronounced 吕 that way. You even write the pinyin that way. I have never heard of that before. I even lived in 秦皇岛 for a year, and it is not far from 天津, and had many students from 天津, and nobody ever said that.
Hello, it is a great topic. Actually ,different objective of practice requires different ways of training. Nowadays, the majority if not all of people practice kungfu are not aiming to have a competition with sport combat people. So, the effort, energy, intensity, and overall training methods if much less or far away from those who combat with others in competitions. Then, ONLY skill without cardio, strengthen, experiences will not be able to win the competition. I think these factors are the main reasons. It is not about style, it is about training intensity. Thanks,
I appreciate his humor, as well as the theory that he exposes of the internal arts, is of a high level!
Thanks,
👊🏾😎👍🏼
The demonstration at 24 minutes is very enlightening. Understanding the eight energies in each movement(s)🤯
Joined a Tai Chi School and attended classes every week practicing every day. For two years I learned the basic movements but had no clue about “chi”. Then, I went to a week long Qigong training and presto, I realized energetic movements. Then, after years of Yang style I began Chen with a Master teacher who taught applications I.e, Taijiquan and push hands. It took at least five years of steady practice to gain enough experience to even know what this video is all about. For those who enjoy Tai Chi, get some books, listen to teachers who have practiced a long time, and work with as many superior practitioners as possible. I even went to China and lived there a year and a half to gain more knowledge. After 25 years I practice, I feel like I’ve only gained a limited knowledge of these beautiful movements. Combine deep breathing, concentration of the mind and physical conditioning to create intention of energetic direction.
Very true.
After listening to these lectures on Tai Chi I finally feel like I have some grasp of its underlying concepts and how it is distinct from the other internal arts like Xingyi and Bagua. I've not been fortunate enough to meet any Tai Chi practitioner who was concerned with training in the system as a traditional martial art instead of as a health or meditative practice and always felt I had a very large gap in my knowledge of the internal arts which I love so much. I find the historical connection between the 8 gates/forces and the I-Ching fascinating and this breakdown has helped me form some connections between my Bagua knowledge and Tai Chi. I realize they are in fact different conceptually but now I at least can see some commonality between the underlying frameworks. It's great that you're presenting this information and trying to do away with some of the mystical ideas which have become intertwined with Tai Chi in the modern age and I hope other practitioners will be inspired to delve deeper into their practice and lift it from the realm of New Age nonsense. Thank you for sharing your knowledge so generously, Sifu. I hope you and yours are well.
Thank you for your comments. It's great that we all agree upon some important Tai Chi principles!
I want to again thank you for putting out these videos. I'm a practitioner of Taiji and Yi Ching study but I mostly have to rely on reading and the internet for where I learn as I do not have teachers in my direct area as I live in the mountains. These videos are like a comprehensive lecture series and that is a great treasure for someone like myself. I've done what I can to share them around the Taiji community online. Bow and salute.
Thank you!
Master Yang,
Thank you for routing me back to this video. It answered a lot of questions. I do hope that you make a more substantial video about Eight-Gate Energy.
That's the plan!
Excellent lecture. I had an opportunity to train in Wu/Hao style briefly in 2018 with Zhong Zhenshan at Guangfu Village in Handan. His 2 hour lecture one afternoon was as insightful and historically accurate as Master Hai Yang's.
good to know. thanks,
Excellent as always Master Yang. Thank you so much for another very informative lecture. Your explanations help very much to clarify that which is so often clouded in mystery. It is indeed such a great pity that something so profound and grounded in solid natural principles can become so convoluted. Thankfully researchers such as yourself and notable others are working hard to show Taijiquan for what it is and the potential that it can offer with appropriately guided effort...🙏
Thank you for your comments. Yes, we should not let tai chi become so convoluted. We should promote this art by sharing more information with others. Thanks.
Zhou had always irritated me as an idea. Your explanation how it might fit into the 13 postures has been very plausible. Thanks for that.
You are very welcome. Thank you.
I can assure you this guy is wrong about zhou and 80% of the things he is saying..........
Fascinating discussion as always. If you have time and inclination, I would really welcome a video on your thoughts on Chen Xin's book.
Yes. It is part of my plan. Will do it after a few more videos.
Very enlightening and brilliant mister Yang! Much gratitude for the time you take explaining in those videos. That could explains why Wu Tunan when he visited Chen Jiagou didn't find anything about the 13 postures and when he finally met Chen Fake in Beijing, mister Chen said he didn't call his practice taijiquan but Chen family boxing...
Yes. They called it cannon fist chen family.
我欣赏他的幽默风趣，以及他所讲的内部艺术理论，具有很高的水准。
Thanks,
Very good lecture, and research. I enjoyed that it really helps my understanding.
Thanks.
Thank you for your valuable insight on 'zhou'. I found this fascinating and very plausible.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks again Master Yang. Excellent explanation of Eight Gate Forces. It’s a difficult subject t
You are very welcome.
Very informative and loved the whole bit saying you don't care about people training in scenic places just facts 😅 learned a lot 👌
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great explanation
Sensei, i wondered why specific pattern of striking is placed among eight kind of energy patterns, now you verified it.
Thanks.
Clear historical references and explanations as usual, thank you very much.
I didn't really understand the Zhou explanation, I have been taught it meant elbow stroke too. It always seemed unusually specific, so your research revealing a wider meaning of upward and or uprooting energy is very interesting.
The same could apply to shoulder stroke. I'm yet to learn more about that. My Taiji teacher, who has 50 years experience, says there is a completely separate practice to discover, understand and develop shoulder stroke. He always says to me that the Taiji form is to learn and practise the principles. Then you learn applications and others aspects through other drills and practices such as push hands, meditation etc. The form is training, not actual application or use, whether it's for martial or health objectives, or both.
Although, the practice of a Taiji form will provide various benefits despite not being developed to a high level or perfected. It seems to me that the concepts and explanations often create more confusion than clarity. Without doing the hard work of tens of thousands of hours of practice, it's extremely difficult to have a workable understanding of these principles, let alone mastering any of them. Nothing of great value ever comes easy :-)
Hello, Thank you for your input. It is good to know that we share the same understanding.
Interesting thoughts. The term Zhou as meaning elbow can makes sense if it's referring to using the elbow as a leverage point, instead of the hand, which is employed in many techniques in Erlu.
Really happy you are doing videos in English more as its hard to find authenticity these days. Your English is very good since these recent videos. Thanks for broadening the Chinese culture amongst us westerners.
Have you any knowledge on master liu yunqiao baji as I have been training under the wutan uk affiliation for over ten years which follows his lineage through decendant they soon tuan who has passed. Unfortunately never met him so my history on the topic is limited.
Thank you
Hello, thank you for your comments. In preparing those videos, it helps me improving my English, so I will be able to communicate with others easier.
I do not have enough information about Liu Yunqiao's line. I know Huo style Baiji and Wu style Baiji people a lot. Especially Wu style Baji was a very popular one in Tianjin after Wu Xiufeng moved to Tianjin to teach, and there have been many Baji practitioners in my hometown...
Thanks.
One of the best másters today.
Thank you very much.
Not at all, thanks,.
lol..........
Love your stuff kick on love it
Thank you for another informative video.
Thanks and you are welcome.
aprecio o seu humor, tal como a teoria que expõe das artes internas, é de alto nível.
No idea...
@@HaiYangChannel is the same , but in my mother languase
Extremely Refreshing!!! De-mystifying lends credibility. You have made the essentials understandable, and this will help the practice. I have a quick question which you can please clarify: DO The 5 elements of wood, fire metal earth water refer to methods of body postures or attack? Ian Sinclair seemed to explain this, and it made sense. If so, then depending on which element is represented in the opponents attack, we would use the counter element style to defeat it? Does this make sense and is it correct? Can you please do a video showing the 5 elements usage in practical movements/attacks defense etc. And then how they counter each other. Thank you so much!
I will answer some of your questions in the coming Q&A video.
Hello, thank you for sharing your experiences and research, it helps going deeper in the practice, my question is about the 5 directions, why up and down is not included and makes 7 directions, thanks
Five directions are for five directions in the same surface.
Thank you Sifu!
Thank you too.
Chen Zhonghua also explains the zhou issue as a misunderstanding of dialect. But he says the correct term is zou rather than zhou, meaning twist.
Interesting.
Thank you
Thank you very much
You are welcome
The information and presentation is so tightly scripted and organised that I would invite you to also post a text transcript in the description, or via a web page. I read extremely fast, and I would like to read this information in text form.
Great suggestion. I will think about it and find a solution. Thanks.
Are you planning to write any books soon?
I think it is a good idea to talk about more details in a book format since it is VERY hard to get very deep in a video format.
"Hello Everyone" LOL. Starting to like this guy 🙏
You are fantastic!
You too!
*Why these forces have name gate? (or gates)*
Can you give a book list on this topic that has a good english translation?
Not sure this kind of book exists or not.
Thanks! Interesting about zhou meanings!
Glad you liked it!
同意。国术的大问题：越老的就越好，老的不能改。我师父说过，合拳理，才是对的，好的。我们的练法，肘为裹肘，与靠相对。在部分方言中肘仍有此意。我们对于顾盼的解释是，顾为回看，盼为前看。 炮锤-十三式，被以前的文人渲染之后，好处是有文字书片留下来，坏处是很多东西变得玄乎，难以解释。个人认为，研究练习太极拳懂历史，从拳理出发即可，可以淡化对于易经/太极/奇门遁甲之类的研究。
Thank you for your comment! It is good to know that we share the same opinion toward practice.
This is the second time I have heard you say lu as lui. The first time was when you pronounced 吕 that way. You even write the pinyin that way. I have never heard of that before. I even lived in 秦皇岛 for a year, and it is not far from 天津, and had many students from 天津, and nobody ever said that.
hahaha, that is what we pronounce it in Tianjin.
What is the purpose of doing tai chi for you?
Many purposes.
Lot's of talk on postures but isn't tai chi about the flow of ki?
In this respect how do these 8 gates relate to controlling the inner ki.
Posture is the first step. Flow of Qi is later topic.
@@HaiYangChannel I see guess I'll have to be patient. 😌🙏
Glance Right Look Left the difference matters
elbow is a verb too in english, you can elbow someone,
Thank you.
I see they do a figure 8 when push hands
Great!
Will be great to know your opinión of whay the today Kung fu people can not face a fight with sport combat people.
Hello, it is a great topic. Actually ,different objective of practice requires different ways of training. Nowadays, the majority if not all of people practice kungfu are not aiming to have a competition with sport combat people. So, the effort, energy, intensity, and overall training methods if much less or far away from those who combat with others in competitions. Then, ONLY skill without cardio, strengthen, experiences will not be able to win the competition.
I think these factors are the main reasons. It is not about style, it is about training intensity.
Thanks,
@@HaiYangChannel thanks.
Where is the true tai chi using jing instead of fisical forces????????????
Xie Xie ni sifi
You really like speaking a lot))
Well, it depends what I speak.
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