Stepping: Contrasting Xing Yi, Ba Gua and Tai Chi (1)

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024

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  • @revhwest
    @revhwest 4 года назад +10

    Another great lecture Hai! Your pedagogy is first class. I am amazed with how you can explain relatively complex topics so succinctly. There is an old saying, A genius who can’t explain himself to a farmer is only a half wit!” I also appreciate how you use various Chinese proverbs and 成語 to convey key concepts. That is one of the linguistic advantages of your teaching. Here is a question. What are the benefits of simultaneously practicing the three styles of internal martial arts as opposed to just choosing one or two styles?

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 года назад +4

      Hello Howard, I hope you are doing well. Thank you for your comments. OF course there are benefits to practice three styles simultaneously since each style can help others in practice. You have years of experiences in these three styles and there is more benefits for you to do so. To a beginner, staying at and focusing on one style for a period of time before moving to the second one will be the better solution or the body memory make get confused... I think you can explain it better based on your professional knowledge. Thanks.

  • @laurentmorin1923
    @laurentmorin1923 4 года назад +7

    Thank you for this great video. This new section of the series is a great idea. I think a contrast video of how the 3 styles' movements relate to different weapons (for example, the spear for Xingyi) might be very interesting.

  • @d14bolus
    @d14bolus 4 года назад +5

    Well put sir. I've been taught to keep them distinct and not muddy them. Xing Yi being very direct, Bagua evasive, and Tai Ji the liar.

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 года назад +1

      Thanks you for your comment. Yes, we share the same opinion.

  • @SuperMasterChieftain
    @SuperMasterChieftain 4 года назад +4

    Great video! Excellent points! We can only benefit from this knowledge.

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 года назад +1

      Thank you and I am glad to know that you like it.

  • @anettehalbestund4184
    @anettehalbestund4184 4 года назад +3

    Thanks for you knowledge....!
    One question i have: why is bagua and xing yi like "Sister and Brother? I read, hear...it in diffrent kind of media but without explanations. I have my thoughts about it but im not sure...
    I do all 3 arts but without mixing...sometimes my brain need a other taste ...before I go back to "my" bagua- with u Video(s) I invented my skills more &more...in the Partner "fight"...I throw myself exspecialy in "sucide" (dangerous "acrobatics" but pretty..)attacks in my taijutsu lessons. Sadly- the bagua & other internal art Schools dont train the fighting applications.
    If u have some Information how to train Partner fight without one. ..
    Thanks 4 all -greatings from hannover...

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 года назад +2

      Thank you for your comment. I think I will make a video about two person forms in the future.

  • @pgskills
    @pgskills 4 года назад +3

    An excellent breakdown and this lecture builds so well on the distinctions between the three arts that you pointed out in your earlier videos. The point you made about the shift in speed in the Tai Chi movement you demonstrated is not something I've ever heard before. It truly changes my views about an art which I honestly do not have much experience with and helps me appreciate it much more now. I also truly appreciate the proverb you shared about the Ba Gua circle walking step -- Inside foot slides, outward foot grinds is a superb way to encapsulate the fundamental movement concepts that define proper practice of that movement around the center of the circle, whether one focuses on mud-wading step or more of a natural heel-to-toe or flat step. I will make an effort to remember and use this proverb more in my own practice and teaching. Thank you so much for sharing all three of those proverbs here.
    I was wondering if at some point you think it might be useful to speak a bit about some of the linear/zig-zag stepping practices in many traditional Ba Gua systems and how those steps compare and contrast with Xing Yi. The Ba Gua system in which I began my training placed a big emphasis on the linear material and I feel like I am still working on smoothly integrating those stepping methods into my palm changes in a way that harmonizes well with the circle walking, hooking, and swinging steps. Any additional guidance or information you wish to share would be greatly appreciated.
    Thanks again, Sifu Yang. I hope you and yours are well.

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 года назад +3

      Excellent idea, I will make a video in the future about it! Thanks,

    • @pgskills
      @pgskills 4 года назад +3

      @@HaiYangChannel Thank you!

  • @gary6110
    @gary6110 4 года назад +4

    I really appreciate the clarity of your explanations, and the robust structure of your presentations. Especially the reinforcing of the important points with demonstrations and take aways. Thanks so much.

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 года назад

      Thank you and I hope I will improve the video quality more and more in the future!

  • @KlausBeckEwerhardy
    @KlausBeckEwerhardy 4 года назад +3

    Not necessarily new for me but again very well explained. Glad to have recommended your videos to some people at a workshop today 😉

  • @DaiAndrews
    @DaiAndrews 4 года назад +4

    Deeply informative as always, thank you.

  • @timgerwing
    @timgerwing 4 года назад +3

    Hello. I am enjoying your videos tremendously - thank you for taking the time to put them together. They are an excellent resource for students and seekers. I know you have touched on several of the points I request in other videos, but I would ask for the following contrasts:
    1) In Taiji there is the concept of "Peng". My instructor sometimes says Taiji is the art of Peng. And, there is something like Peng in other internal styles too, isn't there? If so, could you contrast the theory, method, and application for all 3 internal styles?
    2) Please contrast the underlying metaphors of each internal style. For example in Taiji we hear something like "4 ounces defeats 1000 pounds". What would be something similar in each of the other internal styles and in what ways do the underlying metaphors affect how that art is practiced?
    3) How well can a non-Eastern mind (that is, for someone born outside of the culture or even someone born into a post modern Chinese culture) grasp the fundamental theoretical or metaphorical framework of each of the 3 internal arts? Is there one that you feel is "easier" for non-Eastern people to "get"? If so, why? And, do you feel that studying the history and culture of the art makes a difference to cultivating the "spirit" or "character" of each art?
    4) How is power generation handled differently in each of the internal arts?
    Thank you for considering these points. I hope you would think 1 or more might be interesting enough to explore.

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 года назад

      Thank you a lot! Many of questions you mentioned here are very interesting. I will definitely make a couple of videos based on your questions.

    • @timgerwing
      @timgerwing 4 года назад

      @@HaiYangChannel thank you very much. I truly look forward to it, and thank you again for your work.

  • @Ador828
    @Ador828 5 месяцев назад

    U are a great master, but technically also water boxing

  • @FerrisJerjis
    @FerrisJerjis 4 года назад +2

    Thank you for the upload, very useful way to look at the contrast between these systems, its amazing how those pithy saying manage to encompass so much while being so small it’s delightful, now back to work I look forwards to watching your upload while doing my standing practice in the morning.
    As a side note I was told in Hong Kong few years back that Tai Ji Chan was like catching fish using your body you approach slowly but withdraw quickly !

  • @selfmaster7385
    @selfmaster7385 4 года назад

    Like your videos and explanation!, im a self taught, can you look in my video combos animals and tools , criticize and spare some tips?thanks!

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 года назад

      Sorry, right now, I do not want to do it since it is not my intention to post my video. Thanks,

  • @user-ws3st7hu2l
    @user-ws3st7hu2l 3 года назад +1

    "Any practice is the accumulation of details. Correct practice turns knowledge into skill." Love it!

  • @blacktoothgriner
    @blacktoothgriner 3 года назад

    I like your saying “ the byproduct will never be the real product.” It reminds me of “ that witch is call the dao is not the true dao.” We only see the way.

  • @amnonnissan5896
    @amnonnissan5896 4 года назад

    Does Wing Chun fit in the internal martial arts at all?

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 года назад +1

      I have no idea. In China, only Xing Yi, Ba Gua and Tai Chi and some of their variations are officially named as internal style. Thanks.

  • @maduroholdings
    @maduroholdings 4 года назад +1

    I need a long time to catch my knowledge up to refine my skil

  • @larrylitrakis9400
    @larrylitrakis9400 4 года назад +1

    thank you master for sharing your knowledge. .....

  • @blazink50
    @blazink50 4 года назад +1

    Thank you mr Yang i was reading a really cool story yesterday of guo yun Shen and how he saved Chinese farmers that were getting robbed by the three bandit brothers and how he invited his friends to defeat them and ended up going to jail by the same judge that told him to save the farmers.. are you aware of this story take care and thank you for sharing your knowledge

    • @blazink50
      @blazink50 4 года назад +2

      Also in your video in the past you said you look forward and hear behind the hearing behind do you also do that with the principle of hearing inside the body

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 года назад +2

      the story is not that precise according to my information since I know some seniors in Guo Yunshen's lineage. I think I will make a video to discuss different stories like this one. Thanks.

    • @blazink50
      @blazink50 4 года назад +1

      Hai Yang thank you that would be cool.. also I came across something called tai chi ruler training.. is. That tool for overall internal development or is it limited to tai chi style appreoctec it if you can answer this

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 года назад +2

      Sure, that practice is very similar to the same device used in wrestling training. My TAi Chi teachers taught me this practice before. I think it is a good one but spear training can have the same benefits . thanks,

    • @JPGPakua
      @JPGPakua 4 года назад +1

      @@HaiYangChannel As I use the ruler in my personal practice. I would be very interested to learn how it relates to wrestling. Best wishes from Kentucky,
      Jason

  • @drunkmara
    @drunkmara 4 года назад +1

    谢谢老师!我明天要练习!

  • @steevcoco
    @steevcoco 4 года назад

    Excellent video! Thank you for your clear knowledge!

  • @dravera2284
    @dravera2284 3 года назад

    These videos are amazing. Thank you for compiling this knowledge to us english speakers :)

    • @dravera2284
      @dravera2284 3 года назад

      Also, as someone who is trying to learn the chinese writing system, your videos help me remember certain characters. Thank you for saying it in mandarin and in English, and thank you for explaining the tiny differences like how “inch” translated from chinese actually means distance AND time. I thought that was really cool

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  3 года назад

      Great to know that it can provide a bit of help in your learning mandarin. I know how difficult to learn a foreign language. Thanks,

  • @beanerbandit8898
    @beanerbandit8898 4 года назад

    Thank you for these videos. Great info

  • @deejaye72
    @deejaye72 4 года назад

    Thanks, another great video

  •  4 года назад +1

    Is daoism and Confucianism making less effective Kung Fu, or more effective? Baguazhang needs all the daoism to exists?. Xingyiquan needs 5 elements as concepts to produce the 5 fists? As a westerner, can you learn the principles and moves and be effective fighting without learning.chinese culture? Is chinese culture a burden to the style, and that is why mma is more effective (supposedly) because it has no folklore, no ying yang 5 elements no bagua, etc? If a mma practicionrd were to ad daoism or confucianism to His practicar, would it be better?
    Thank you for your videos.

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 года назад

      Sorry, I really do not know how to answer your questions. It depends on your objective of your practice. Thanks

  • @tubulartuber
    @tubulartuber 4 года назад +1

    your content is great but your diction is extremely harsh, like an external martial art. if you have a good mic and you project your voice properly you don't need to yell

    • @HaiYangChannel
      @HaiYangChannel  4 года назад +1

      Am I yelling? I have no idea of what you are talking about. Is there a relationship between the way someone talks and the style of martial art? I have to think about it since it is something new.
      Also, I have a solution for you. Please lower the sound volume so that it would not be that harsh. Thanks.

    • @tubulartuber
      @tubulartuber 4 года назад +1

      @@HaiYangChannel it's not the overall volume but the distribution. if the volume is lowered to make the emphasized words tolerable the remaining phrases are unintelligible

    • @tubulartuber
      @tubulartuber 4 года назад

      @@HaiYangChannel www.pnas.org/content/117/21/11364