The same happened to us. Miss GoElectric co-hosted a weekly host of a live one-hour+ Inside EVs podcast for most of 2023. It seems to me as if most EV news sources rely on sensationalism, opinion, politics, editorial, and conjecture to attract and retain attention. We created this show with the goal of offering higher information density, a focus on news which is most likely to have lasting impact on electrification, the addition of context, and extrapolation when possible. We always share our sources in the video description so that viewers can verify and deeper if they wish. Thank you for joining us! -Producer Tim
Great episode. Lots of news touched on both well and quickly. I especially like the way you include editorial opinion in spots where it’s appropriate in a way that makes it clear you are giving your opinion. Thanks, I hope you keep doing this.
Thank you for your thoughtful feedback. We try to differentiate The Current from other EV news sources by adding significant context and projections where they are sensible. We think our secret sauce is a delicate mixture of concision and synthesis. Generally speaking, we try to avoid politics and emotional opining. As our name "Go Electric" implies, we are a pro-electrification outlet. We seek to normalize and bolster the transition to electric transport through exposure and education. Neutrality is the default, but there are other tools in the shed. Truth is paramount, and occasionally, we conclude that our audience benefits from a bit of editorial regarding certain topics. When our viewpoints change, it is usually the consequence of new information coming to light. We invite constructive discourse here in the comments section. -Producer Tim
Two things I LOVED about today's show - 1 - That you prioritized your 10 minute format. 2 - That you weren't uncomfortable about only reporting on a FEW STORIES. You sacrificed story count to give a major complex story a majority of the time and illustrated the complexity and importance of the MANY implications. You've just gained points with me over the MANY vehicle/EV news programs I consume.
We appreciate your specific feedback. We did wrestle with leaving a little time on the table this week and we hoped the Nissan context would be more enlightening than excessive. -Producer Tim
Thank you. Miss GoElectric writes most of the stories and Producer Tim revises and proofreads. Former Nissan CEO Carlos Gohsn said Honda's acquisition would be a bailout disguised as a merger. We have found his insights to be historically potent. It sure is a complicated situation. Both Miss GoElectric and I have spent years working with Nissan. In fact my automotive career began with the North American launch of the Versa in 2006. We spent much of 2022/2023 education thousands of sales reps on the Ariya at over 150 dealerships and other venues nationwide. -Producer Tim MGE Ariya review: ruclips.net/video/SdOal5q_7kA/видео.html
The Fiat 500e has too little range for the price tag. It would immediately be left out of my list due to the low range. Even with crazy lease deals like you documented it would be hard to go with. Great show, Happy New Year!
Those lease deals are made much sweeter due to $5,000+ Colorado State incentives which can be applied at the point of sale. I'm not sure NY offers that kind of incentive. -Producer Tim
@@MissGoElectric The NY Drive Clean Rebate amount can range from $500 to $2,000 based on the model’s manufacturer’s suggested retail price (MSRP) and all-electric range. 1. Greater than 200-mile range: $2,000 rebate 2. 40- to 199-mile range: $1,000 rebate 3. Less than 40-mile range: $500 rebate 4. MSRP greater than $42,000: $500 rebate
NY are rebates filled after the sale rather than point-of-sale? Colorado credits can be more than $11,000 with ICE vehicle retirement.. www.edmunds.com/electric-car/tax-credits-rebates-incentives/colorado/ -Producer Tim
You are right. The growth of EV adoption has slowed as a direct result of new competitors with uncompetitive products and user experiences. The great EVs at great prices are selling well. -Producer Tim
Shorter range EVs like the 500e and the BMW i3 are a great buy on the used market. On this channel, we only recommend EVs to those with access to convenient, inexpensive, and reliable charging where the vehicle will naturally be idle. -Producer Tim
This Honda/Nissan/Mitsubishi Merger desperately needed for my Beloved Nissan. Great work as always Madame and Mr Tim. Always watch, LIke, Share your videos, as you bring well informed to the point news, every week. All the Best for the New Year, & Xmas season that officially ends on January 6Th. Much Respect, Great Channel.
Why not allow Foxcon to invest? Why doesn’t the Japanese government give or loan money directly to Nissan, “bail them out “? Why should Honda, a public company with its own investors, be forced to swallow poison?
Adding the quote from Honda’s CEO replying to questioning on how this merger benefits Honda was great. It really makes you imagine shareholders deciding how and when they will be filing their lawsuits and class actions. Honda Motors Limited is traded on both the Tokyo and New York stock exchanges.
What a situation. Shareholder obligations are second only to their government. We saw that when Ford had to participate in the TARP program even though they were doing fine. -Producer Tim
Thanks! I've been reading EV (and all electric) news for a decade now and you have become my best and most condensed news source. I really appreciate this channel. I bought a lease return 500e for 9K in 2018, hauled it back from CA to NY and have used it for errands in my small city ever since. The one random repair it needed was actually fixed by the local Jeep dealer... a nicely designed, fun and reliable urban / suburban car. I'll be sad when this model becomes history.....
The 500e is a wonderful city solution akin to the BMW i3. They are a fantastic value at low prices on the used market. Miss GoElectric and worked for BMW in 2014-2016 as product experts launching the i3 in North America. We've conducted thousands of test drives and probably interacted with about 50,000+ with in-person education. Your affection for that format is something we can each relate to. Thank you for sharing your experience! -Producer Tim
We own a Cybertruck with PowerShare and an installed Gateway V3 to power our studio. Our first thought about this news was the energy arbitrage opportunity. I even considered upgrading from dual motor to CyberBeast to take advantage of it. There is a great deal of friction involved with that process because Tesla will not currently accept used Cybertrucks in trade. While the cost calculations do not work based on 2024 electricity prices and US dollar buying power, we suspect the value of unlimited supercharging will be staggering in 5-10 years. I have not sold my 2016 Model S for that very reason. It has *transferrable* unlimited supercharging. -Producer Tim
Agree. The 500e does not meet the minimum specs necessary for competition in the EV space. What were they thinking? Offering them for free in Colorado recognizes that they are exactly what they are worth.
Those specifications might be more appropriate in some European markets. Perhaps snowy mountainous Colorado might be low on the list of ideal markets for a 2WD 150mi minicar. -Producer Tim
I have a question I've been trying to find out for almost a year... The range and battery recharge speed means nothing to me, since i drive only about 90 miles a day. For long trips i either take my ice or plan for the charge time. My cost is close to 3.5 cents a mile and the worst I've seen a few times is 8 cents a mile. Question: on long range cars cyber truck, Hummer EV, or any other, what's the average cost per mile to drive?
In order to calculate cost per mile, drivers must understand the real and total cost of their energy as well as the actual efficiency of their EV. Both vary wildly which means I cannot offer a general answer. Specific inputs are required. -Producer Tim chooseev.com/savings-calculator/
Great content and easy to follow as usual. Good job! As 2023 Ioniq6 owner I would like to know if there is any recent developement regarding the class action related to overheating charging ports of Hyundai, Kia and Genesis 2023 2024 products? Not sure where I need to go to follow this story. Thank you and keep on the good work!
Thank you for tuning in! At any given time there are hundreds of class action lawsuits filed against automakers. Our society is absurdly litigious because attorneys profit most. Law firms seeking plaintiffs spend hundreds of millions of dollars advertising calamity and promising easy money. It can be very difficult to determine what is a problem and what is a parasitic attack. Generally speaking, we report on news which we think might alter the trajectory of the electrification of transportation. At this time, we are unaware of any ongoing and meaningful defects related to Hyundai Group EVs sold in the USA. They are currently the #2 automaker here by volume. I'll look into this to see if we've overlooked something meaningful. -Producer Tim
On June 16th, we reported about the demise of Fisker. The company is bankrupt and liquidated. We did create a video telling that story in detail over on the Miss GoElectric Industry channel: ruclips.net/video/sPMIlLYSnqY/видео.html -Producer Tim
Great job developing the show this year to being a helpful balance of pertinent news with succinct analysis and data.Thanks for your efforts and Happy New Year!
Synthesis is the secret sauce! Competing AI content will certainly infiltrate our category and format in 2025. We hope our 35 years of automotive experience will continue to enable more contextual and predictive value for viewers of The Current. Thank you for your encouragement. -Producer Tim
Ah yes, I remember predicting the fiat 500e would obviously fail and being dismissed by people online (not here). Glad to get my i told you so. With the Honda Nissan deal is this a true merger or just for the evs? That remains a bit unclear for me.
Another good episode! One correction re Hyundai NACS adaptor specs: @StateofCharge put out a video recently on this subject and his concerns that it is rated for fewer amps since the high voltage EGMP cars do not need it - one reason Kona owners are not getting one.
Thank you for watching. As for the correction you've offered, I reject it. The Kona will be getting the adapter and we've shared the official press release from Hyundai Group issued this week. That document confirms our reporting. I understand that another RUclips channel might have different information, but we will stand by more recent declarations by the automaker. Regarding sub-400A upper limits on the adapter, we don't take issue with it. Safe and reliable support for thousands more locations is welcome. Technology marches on and new eGMP based vehicles will charge very quickly (~800V ~600A) with native NACS support at Tesla's upcoming V4 locations. -Producer Tim
Miss GoElectric's University degree in broadcast journalism is coming in handy! It means a lot to us that you have taken the time to offer specific feedback. We take it to heart. -Producer Tim
Exec summary of the bouillabaisse / haggis Euro car companies: "We can't sell these things (EVs), we're even giving them away free, but have few takers"
Regarding the free Hyundai NACS adapter, Tom from State of Charge channel had a video about his concerns with the KIA adapter only being rated for 350A. (ruclips.net/video/Bns_sKbSdtY/видео.html) If the Hyundai adapter is the same, it sounds like people receiving it should be careful to only use it with 800V vehicles. Thoughts?
Hyundai Group did not confirm technical parity between the Kia, Genesis, and Hyundai adapters. We try not to engage in speculation here, but it is a reasonable assumption that the adapters will have similar specifications. In the press release which we have linked (see our video description) Hyundai Group confirms that the Kona will also be receiving an adapter. That adapter might differ in accordance with K3 platform upon which pre-2025 Kona's are based. The 2025 Kona is based on eGMP. We think a 350A max on the adapter is acceptable. Today's active Tesla Superchargers *could* technically deliver a bit more power which would equate to a reduction of 3-6 minutes on a statistically average charging session. We think the technical headroom and associated safety is a prudent tradeoff for Hyundai Group. Most EV drivers rarely DC-Fast Charge and will not be impacted in any meaningful way by conservative engineering. As we've previously reported, Hyundai Group is currently offering native 800V NACS ports on some US made vehicles. The entire product line will follow suit in the coming year or so. We can safely assume those vehicles will accept the maximum ouput of V2/V3 Tesla Superchargers and much higher speeds at upcoming V4 cabinet-equipped locations. Hyundai Group is the #2 EV automaker in the USA and we see their complimentary support for NACS as an example of the sound strategy and outstanding execution which has earned them a leadership position. Thank you for joining us and starting this conversation. -Producer Tim
How can someone open their eyes and buy the Fiat 500e for that price? It’s a modern day golf cart with extended range for towns and large housing areas.
150 miles of EPA range is much higher than a typical NEV (neighborhood electric vehicle), but to your point...the value proposition is not competitive in today's EV marketplace. -Producer Tim
If a company is offering incentives, it means that they want to move those vehicles. The cybertruck is not selling as well as hoped. The Fiat 500E isn't a good car for the market and also isn't selling. The rest of the news I see as mostly positive. If car makers can standardize on parts, they can get the production cost way down while making the cars more attractive to buyers in the market. People always worry a bit about getting the car repaired when the time comes. Standardized parts and the ability of independent mechanics to fix the cars is an important selling point.
Remember, the promotion is only for remaining Foundation Series trucks in inventory on lots. Each of those is fully optioned including $8,000 full self driving, lifetime data connectivity. They were reserved as early as 2019. Many reservation holders balked due to major price hikes and very high interest rates. The result is a surplus of that limited edition run. Those start at $100k and are fully optioned. Now that less expensive Cybertruck trims are available for as low as $72k with corporate subsidies, the value proposition is superior there. As with any product, there is a premium associated with scarcity. During the first year, Cybertruck output was inconsistent as the ramp-up process took place. Now Tesla has produced over 55,000 trucks and is purportedly building about 1,300/week. The truck is now selling at a profit and will contribute meaningfully to Tesla's automotive bottom line in 2025. We expect export beyond North America soon. To your other point, scale is indeed a primary enabler of value for consumers. Simplification is another. -Producer Tim
That is right. Others have also contributed this information to the comments section. Pronunciation of the Honda CEO's last name was also improper. -Producer Tim
@@MissGoElectric am-pair is the closest an English speaker can get to it... it´s got two sounds you just don´t have in English.... that è and that r ... are... very French.
It happens too frequently. We'd like to see the system be allowed to work. Failure is an essential component of success. If we do not let winners rise and losers fall, our system is bogged down by the weight of unproductive corporate corpses. -Producer Tim
I enjoy the content, but find your gazing above my head very distracting. That's an eye position that is subconsciously associated with someone lying. If you would position your "prompter" at the level of the camera it would look more natural.
No. We do not use AI in the production of any of our programs. We've produced hundreds of videos in many formats across three channels. Learn more at www.missgoelectric.com -Producer Tim
Tesla produces electric automobiles. That is our field of expertise. The company has no control over the voting decisions of its 140,000 employees and 7 million customers. Leave political trolling out of our comments section. -Producer Tim
I’m appreciating this series increasingly every week. I was watching a lot of long-form EV content lately but I’ve gotten disinterested in that.
The same happened to us. Miss GoElectric co-hosted a weekly host of a live one-hour+ Inside EVs podcast for most of 2023.
It seems to me as if most EV news sources rely on sensationalism, opinion, politics, editorial, and conjecture to attract and retain attention.
We created this show with the goal of offering higher information density, a focus on news which is most likely to have lasting impact on electrification, the addition of context, and extrapolation when possible.
We always share our sources in the video description so that viewers can verify and deeper if they wish.
Thank you for joining us!
-Producer Tim
Drive Fly ride go Electic Miss GoElectric
Happy Holidays,Miss GoElectric
😊
Well done to the winner
We hope to do more giveaways.
-Producer Tim
Great episode. Lots of news touched on both well and quickly. I especially like the way you include editorial opinion in spots where it’s appropriate in a way that makes it clear you are giving your opinion. Thanks, I hope you keep doing this.
Thank you for your thoughtful feedback.
We try to differentiate The Current from other EV news sources by adding significant context and projections where they are sensible. We think our secret sauce is a delicate mixture of concision and synthesis. Generally speaking, we try to avoid politics and emotional opining.
As our name "Go Electric" implies, we are a pro-electrification outlet. We seek to normalize and bolster the transition to electric transport through exposure and education. Neutrality is the default, but there are other tools in the shed. Truth is paramount, and occasionally, we conclude that our audience benefits from a bit of editorial regarding certain topics.
When our viewpoints change, it is usually the consequence of new information coming to light. We invite constructive discourse here in the comments section.
-Producer Tim
Hope you also had a great Christmas, and we look forward to a great New Year on this channel.
Congrats to Rick on the win.
Thank you!
-Producer Tim
Thank you. Your channel is now the main “go to” for my EV real news appetite.
We will do our best to continue earning your trust. Thank you. -Producer Tim
Two things I LOVED about today's show -
1 - That you prioritized your 10 minute format.
2 - That you weren't uncomfortable about only reporting on a FEW STORIES. You sacrificed story count to give a major complex story a majority of the time and illustrated the complexity and importance of the MANY implications.
You've just gained points with me over the MANY vehicle/EV news programs I consume.
We appreciate your specific feedback. We did wrestle with leaving a little time on the table this week and we hoped the Nissan context would be more enlightening than excessive.
-Producer Tim
Nice wok again this weekend! Many more great stories to come on the merger, I am sure.
We hope to have lots of EV news to report from the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas January 6-9!
Thanks for tuning in. -Producer Tim
I appreciate the in-depth look at the Honda Nissan possible merger, that was well done Tim and team.
Thank you. Miss GoElectric writes most of the stories and Producer Tim revises and proofreads.
Former Nissan CEO Carlos Gohsn said Honda's acquisition would be a bailout disguised as a merger. We have found his insights to be historically potent. It sure is a complicated situation.
Both Miss GoElectric and I have spent years working with Nissan. In fact my automotive career began with the North American launch of the Versa in 2006. We spent much of 2022/2023 education thousands of sales reps on the Ariya at over 150 dealerships and other venues nationwide.
-Producer Tim
MGE Ariya review: ruclips.net/video/SdOal5q_7kA/видео.html
The Fiat 500e has too little range for the price tag. It would immediately be left out of my list due to the low range. Even with crazy lease deals like you documented it would be hard to go with.
Great show, Happy New Year!
Colorado has so many astounding lease deals.
Thanks for sharing your opinion.
-Producer Tim
@@MissGoElectric I'd love to see some of those lease deals in NY state. :)
Those lease deals are made much sweeter due to $5,000+ Colorado State incentives which can be applied at the point of sale. I'm not sure NY offers that kind of incentive. -Producer Tim
@@MissGoElectric The NY Drive Clean Rebate amount can range from $500 to $2,000 based on the model’s manufacturer’s suggested retail price (MSRP) and all-electric range.
1. Greater than 200-mile range: $2,000 rebate
2. 40- to 199-mile range: $1,000 rebate
3. Less than 40-mile range: $500 rebate
4. MSRP greater than $42,000: $500 rebate
NY are rebates filled after the sale rather than point-of-sale?
Colorado credits can be more than $11,000 with ICE vehicle retirement..
www.edmunds.com/electric-car/tax-credits-rebates-incentives/colorado/
-Producer Tim
Thanks for the content.
Thanks for watching!
-Producer Tim
Hope to see you in Vegas!
We'll be around! -Producer Tim
Gm, Ty Miss GoElectric.
Hi!
-Producer Tim
The uncertainty is caused by lower quality EV maker, not the Good EV Brands which are selling very well.
You are right. The growth of EV adoption has slowed as a direct result of new competitors with uncompetitive products and user experiences. The great EVs at great prices are selling well.
-Producer Tim
My 2015 Fiat 500e was a great car, all the new one needs is the right price and the right charging.
Shorter range EVs like the 500e and the BMW i3 are a great buy on the used market. On this channel, we only recommend EVs to those with access to convenient, inexpensive, and reliable charging where the vehicle will naturally be idle.
-Producer Tim
Where appropriate, priced appropriately. Enough range for a long work commute w/o public charging
This Honda/Nissan/Mitsubishi Merger desperately needed for my Beloved Nissan. Great work as always Madame and Mr Tim. Always watch, LIke, Share your videos, as you bring well informed to the point news, every week. All the Best for the New Year, & Xmas season that officially ends on January 6Th. Much Respect, Great Channel.
We are pleased that you've joined us. Hopefully 2025 wil be full of electrification news for The Current.
-Producer Tim
Why not allow Foxcon to invest?
Why doesn’t the Japanese government give or loan money directly to Nissan, “bail them out “?
Why should Honda, a public company with its own investors, be forced to swallow poison?
@@MissGoElectric This channel will always have "Current" to Continue Powering On making great content. Much respect.
Thanks!
Thank you
-Producer Tim
Adding the quote from Honda’s CEO replying to questioning on how this merger benefits Honda was great. It really makes you imagine shareholders deciding how and when they will be filing their lawsuits and class actions. Honda Motors Limited is traded on both the Tokyo and New York stock exchanges.
What a situation.
Shareholder obligations are second only to their government. We saw that when Ford had to participate in the TARP program even though they were doing fine. -Producer Tim
Agreed. The 500e’s issues do not include lower ev demand.
Thanks for sharing your perspective, Rick! -Producer Tim
Thanks! I've been reading EV (and all electric) news for a decade now and you have become my best and most condensed news source. I really appreciate this channel. I bought a lease return 500e for 9K in 2018, hauled it back from CA to NY and have used it for errands in my small city ever since. The one random repair it needed was actually fixed by the local Jeep dealer... a nicely designed, fun and reliable urban / suburban car. I'll be sad when this model becomes history.....
The 500e is a wonderful city solution akin to the BMW i3. They are a fantastic value at low prices on the used market.
Miss GoElectric and worked for BMW in 2014-2016 as product experts launching the i3 in North America. We've conducted thousands of test drives and probably interacted with about 50,000+ with in-person education. Your affection for that format is something we can each relate to.
Thank you for sharing your experience!
-Producer Tim
0:57 Won't this be free electricity for owner's home, since Battery to grid exists in cybertruck(you can use cybertruck to power home)
OF COURSE. Many will justify the RIDICULOUS PRICE for this benefit, I'm sure. Clever on Tesla's part.
We own a Cybertruck with PowerShare and an installed Gateway V3 to power our studio. Our first thought about this news was the energy arbitrage opportunity. I even considered upgrading from dual motor to CyberBeast to take advantage of it. There is a great deal of friction involved with that process because Tesla will not currently accept used Cybertrucks in trade.
While the cost calculations do not work based on 2024 electricity prices and US dollar buying power, we suspect the value of unlimited supercharging will be staggering in 5-10 years.
I have not sold my 2016 Model S for that very reason. It has *transferrable* unlimited supercharging.
-Producer Tim
Agree. The 500e does not meet the minimum specs necessary for competition in the EV space. What were they thinking? Offering them for free in Colorado recognizes that they are exactly what they are worth.
Those specifications might be more appropriate in some European markets. Perhaps snowy mountainous Colorado might be low on the list of ideal markets for a 2WD 150mi minicar. -Producer Tim
The Fiat 500e would be a cute around town "grocery getter" but not at that price.
Absolutely! The used EV market is a circus of value for vehicles like this.
-Producer Tim
@@MissGoElectric If you can find one!
Facebook Marketplace is full of used EV treasures here in Southeastern Michigan. -Producer Tim
I have a question I've been trying to find out for almost a year... The range and battery recharge speed means nothing to me, since i drive only about 90 miles a day. For long trips i either take my ice or plan for the charge time. My cost is close to 3.5 cents a mile and the worst I've seen a few times is 8 cents a mile. Question: on long range cars cyber truck, Hummer EV, or any other, what's the average cost per mile to drive?
In order to calculate cost per mile, drivers must understand the real and total cost of their energy as well as the actual efficiency of their EV.
Both vary wildly which means I cannot offer a general answer. Specific inputs are required.
-Producer Tim
chooseev.com/savings-calculator/
@MissGoElectric I benched mine off of 16 cent per kw, home changing, which I've read is the average. Mine is closer to 14.
Energy cost is half of the data required.
I included a calculation link in my previous reply.
-Producer Tim
Great content and easy to follow as usual. Good job!
As 2023 Ioniq6 owner I would like to know if there is any recent developement regarding the class action related to overheating charging ports of Hyundai, Kia and Genesis 2023 2024 products? Not sure where I need to go to follow this story.
Thank you and keep on the good work!
Thank you for tuning in!
At any given time there are hundreds of class action lawsuits filed against automakers. Our society is absurdly litigious because attorneys profit most. Law firms seeking plaintiffs spend hundreds of millions of dollars advertising calamity and promising easy money. It can be very difficult to determine what is a problem and what is a parasitic attack.
Generally speaking, we report on news which we think might alter the trajectory of the electrification of transportation. At this time, we are unaware of any ongoing and meaningful defects related to Hyundai Group EVs sold in the USA. They are currently the #2 automaker here by volume.
I'll look into this to see if we've overlooked something meaningful.
-Producer Tim
Any updates on Fisker coming out soon?
On June 16th, we reported about the demise of Fisker. The company is bankrupt and liquidated.
We did create a video telling that story in detail over on the Miss GoElectric Industry channel:
ruclips.net/video/sPMIlLYSnqY/видео.html
-Producer Tim
Great job developing the show this year to being a helpful balance of pertinent news with succinct analysis and data.Thanks for your efforts and Happy New Year!
Synthesis is the secret sauce! Competing AI content will certainly infiltrate our category and format in 2025. We hope our 35 years of automotive experience will continue to enable more contextual and predictive value for viewers of The Current.
Thank you for your encouragement.
-Producer Tim
Yes stellanti prices are way too high across the board .
If Stellantis and Nissan remain standing it might only be because they've been propped up.
-Producer Tim
@@MissGoElectricTim nailed it!
Welcome Honssan!
@@MissGoElectric Honda-Nissan concatenated :D
NONda. LOL.
-Producer Tim
I believe Ampere is pronounced 'Ampear', or 'Ampier' (Brit vs American English) as in the unit of electric current.
You are correct.
-Producer Tim
Ah yes, I remember predicting the fiat 500e would obviously fail and being dismissed by people online (not here). Glad to get my i told you so.
With the Honda Nissan deal is this a true merger or just for the evs? That remains a bit unclear for me.
Our coverage angle is EVs, but the Honda/Nissan merger involves the entire corporation all adjacent entities.
-Producer Tim
No cat gutz all tangled up in the fan belts in the Winter and no catalytic converter theft
EV advantages.
-Producer Tim
Another good episode! One correction re Hyundai NACS adaptor specs: @StateofCharge put out a video recently on this subject and his concerns that it is rated for fewer amps since the high voltage EGMP cars do not need it - one reason Kona owners are not getting one.
Thank you for watching.
As for the correction you've offered, I reject it. The Kona will be getting the adapter and we've shared the official press release from Hyundai Group issued this week. That document confirms our reporting.
I understand that another RUclips channel might have different information, but we will stand by more recent declarations by the automaker.
Regarding sub-400A upper limits on the adapter, we don't take issue with it. Safe and reliable support for thousands more locations is welcome. Technology marches on and new eGMP based vehicles will charge very quickly (~800V ~600A) with native NACS support at Tesla's upcoming V4 locations.
-Producer Tim
@ glad to get updated info
Excellent graphics and charts. Really helps convey the issues. Thanks,
Miss GoElectric's University degree in broadcast journalism is coming in handy! It means a lot to us that you have taken the time to offer specific feedback. We take it to heart.
-Producer Tim
Exec summary of the bouillabaisse / haggis Euro car companies: "We can't sell these things (EVs), we're even giving them away free, but have few takers"
Capitalism doesn't favor a poor value proposition. That is a feature, not a bug :) -Producer Tim
Regarding the free Hyundai NACS adapter, Tom from State of Charge channel had a video about his concerns with the KIA adapter only being rated for 350A. (ruclips.net/video/Bns_sKbSdtY/видео.html) If the Hyundai adapter is the same, it sounds like people receiving it should be careful to only use it with 800V vehicles. Thoughts?
Hyundai Group did not confirm technical parity between the Kia, Genesis, and Hyundai adapters. We try not to engage in speculation here, but it is a reasonable assumption that the adapters will have similar specifications.
In the press release which we have linked (see our video description) Hyundai Group confirms that the Kona will also be receiving an adapter. That adapter might differ in accordance with K3 platform upon which pre-2025 Kona's are based. The 2025 Kona is based on eGMP.
We think a 350A max on the adapter is acceptable. Today's active Tesla Superchargers *could* technically deliver a bit more power which would equate to a reduction of 3-6 minutes on a statistically average charging session. We think the technical headroom and associated safety is a prudent tradeoff for Hyundai Group. Most EV drivers rarely DC-Fast Charge and will not be impacted in any meaningful way by conservative engineering.
As we've previously reported, Hyundai Group is currently offering native 800V NACS ports on some US made vehicles. The entire product line will follow suit in the coming year or so. We can safely assume those vehicles will accept the maximum ouput of V2/V3 Tesla Superchargers and much higher speeds at upcoming V4 cabinet-equipped locations.
Hyundai Group is the #2 EV automaker in the USA and we see their complimentary support for NACS as an example of the sound strategy and outstanding execution which has earned them a leadership position.
Thank you for joining us and starting this conversation.
-Producer Tim
How can someone open their eyes and buy the Fiat 500e for that price? It’s a modern day golf cart with extended range for towns and large housing areas.
150 miles of EPA range is much higher than a typical NEV (neighborhood electric vehicle), but to your point...the value proposition is not competitive in today's EV marketplace. -Producer Tim
Yes, Fiat 500e is significantly over priced for its range, acceleration, charging, and interior space.
Confirmed!
-Producer Tim
If a company is offering incentives, it means that they want to move those vehicles. The cybertruck is not selling as well as hoped. The Fiat 500E isn't a good car for the market and also isn't selling. The rest of the news I see as mostly positive. If car makers can standardize on parts, they can get the production cost way down while making the cars more attractive to buyers in the market. People always worry a bit about getting the car repaired when the time comes. Standardized parts and the ability of independent mechanics to fix the cars is an important selling point.
Remember, the promotion is only for remaining Foundation Series trucks in inventory on lots. Each of those is fully optioned including $8,000 full self driving, lifetime data connectivity. They were reserved as early as 2019. Many reservation holders balked due to major price hikes and very high interest rates. The result is a surplus of that limited edition run.
Those start at $100k and are fully optioned. Now that less expensive Cybertruck trims are available for as low as $72k with corporate subsidies, the value proposition is superior there.
As with any product, there is a premium associated with scarcity. During the first year, Cybertruck output was inconsistent as the ramp-up process took place. Now Tesla has produced over 55,000 trucks and is purportedly building about 1,300/week.
The truck is now selling at a profit and will contribute meaningfully to Tesla's automotive bottom line in 2025. We expect export beyond North America soon.
To your other point, scale is indeed a primary enabler of value for consumers. Simplification is another.
-Producer Tim
fwiw... pronunciation guide: ampère in French sounds like am-pair
That is right. Others have also contributed this information to the comments section.
Pronunciation of the Honda CEO's last name was also improper.
-Producer Tim
@@MissGoElectric am-pair is the closest an English speaker can get to it... it´s got two sounds you just don´t have in English.... that è and that r ... are... very French.
indeed. -Producer Tim
This merger will be extending the time for failure of both Company & Mitsubishi. Only Nissan & Mitsubishi have EV. Honda EV is GM built, so Good Luck!
There’s a lot going on with that merger. Much more intricate than I realized- the announcement timing, Foxconn, the prologue platform, etc. Good info!
It can be frustrating to watch poor performers get propped up. Consumers lose when this happens. -Producer Tim
@@MissGoElectriclike when the government bailed out GM.
It happens too frequently. We'd like to see the system be allowed to work. Failure is an essential component of success. If we do not let winners rise and losers fall, our system is bogged down by the weight of unproductive corporate corpses. -Producer Tim
@@MissGoElectric yes. Let capitalism work.
Well not much news this week
Less business and development transpire around the holidays.
We will have the opposite problem in early January.
-Producer Tim
I enjoy the content, but find your gazing above my head very distracting. That's an eye position that is subconsciously associated with someone lying. If you would position your "prompter" at the level of the camera it would look more natural.
The teleprompter text is reflected on a panel of glass directly in front of the lens.
It is not a separate screen above the camera.
-Producer Tim
Is this lady AI?
Would you love to purchase one?
No. We do not use AI in the production of any of our programs. We've produced hundreds of videos in many formats across three channels. Learn more at www.missgoelectric.com
-Producer Tim
Tesls is offering incentives Like thwarting democracy?
Tesla produces electric automobiles. That is our field of expertise. The company has no control over the voting decisions of its 140,000 employees and 7 million customers. Leave political trolling out of our comments section.
-Producer Tim