I haven't done an SIV course yet, but I've done a basic PG course twice (because I moved to another country) and also one, more advanced XC course. In all those courses we did basic frontal and asymmetric collapses, small spirals, small wingovers, B-stalls etc. Nothing massive, just the very basics to get a bit of feel of the glider. And after the courses I've been doing these basics on my own, when safe. I don't know how the courses are in other countries, but to me you don't need a special SIV course to start with these maneuvers. They can be started in the basic course.
There are valid concerns in what you have written. While some schools may include these maneuvers in their basic courses, it is essential to ensure that they are taught in a controlled and safe environment, practicing over ground dose not provide this. The risk increases significantly when practicing these maneuvers above ground, especially for new pilots. There have been unfortunate cases where students during these kind of training, have experienced cravates or entered auto-rotation after a seemingly small asymmetric collapse, resulting in fatal accidents. Even with low energy rotations like small spirals, a simple mistake can lead to a significant response from the wing. Therefore, it is crucial to approach these maneuvers with caution and only under appropriate conditions - over water. Considering the potential risks involved, I would advise individuals leave any school that would practice these maneuvers above ground during their basic PG training.
I haven't done an SIV course yet, but I've done a basic PG course twice (because I moved to another country) and also one, more advanced XC course. In all those courses we did basic frontal and asymmetric collapses, small spirals, small wingovers, B-stalls etc. Nothing massive, just the very basics to get a bit of feel of the glider. And after the courses I've been doing these basics on my own, when safe. I don't know how the courses are in other countries, but to me you don't need a special SIV course to start with these maneuvers. They can be started in the basic course.
There are valid concerns in what you have written. While some schools may include these maneuvers in their basic courses, it is essential to ensure that they are taught in a controlled and safe environment, practicing over ground dose not provide this.
The risk increases significantly when practicing these maneuvers above ground, especially for new pilots. There have been unfortunate cases where students during these kind of training, have experienced cravates or entered auto-rotation after a seemingly small asymmetric collapse, resulting in fatal accidents.
Even with low energy rotations like small spirals, a simple mistake can lead to a significant response from the wing. Therefore, it is crucial to approach these maneuvers with caution and only under appropriate conditions - over water.
Considering the potential risks involved, I would advise individuals leave any school that would practice these maneuvers above ground during their basic PG training.
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