Best Practices for Working Part Time & Applying for Social Security
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- Опубликовано: 14 сен 2023
- Are you allowed to work part time while your Social Security disability case is pending? If so, at what point will part time work hurt your case?
As I discuss, a key number to keep in mind is the dollar figure for what is called "SGA"
("Substantial Gainful Activity")
In 2023, you are presumed to be performing work at "SGA level" if you are earning $1,470 per month. This equates to only $17,640 per year, but SSA seems to think that a person earning $17,640 per year is, by definition, NOT disabled. :-(
So, if you decide to try to work you need to monitor your gross earnings every month.
If you exceed the SGA limit but cannot sustain a job at that level, your work could be considered "unsuccessful" which will actually HELP your case.
What you want to AVOID is a situation where your earnings EXCEED "SGA" for enough time to take you out of unsuccessful work attempt territory before you discover that you actually cannot sustain work.
This is where your disability attorney can be a huge help. I regularly discuss work attempts with my clients and we try to avoid a situation where a work attempt will cause a claim to fail.
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I thank you for your advice 3 yrs ago i followed all your advice and was awarded you are the truth and im thankful
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Boy you aren’t kidding, I’ve been waiting on my reconsideration appeal for a year now and still no case worker assigned ! Getting ridiculous. Thanks again for the informative videos .
Sorry to hear that. Best of luck to you.
I viewed your website and sent you a message. Thank you for all your helpful videos!
You have been so kind in helping my husband ! After 19 months at initial application, and contacting our senators he was found disabled and won his benefits. 19 long months initial application stage. We can't thank you enough. God bless you sir ❤
19 months - wow. It has reached the point where I am telling all of my clients to let their Senators know that these delays are literally life threatening.
Thanks for sharing.
@@ssdattorneywe are pass 19 months! Thanks for the advice.
Thank you Sir for your input. This really gives me more incentive to pursue a case for Social Security Disability.
Thanks for Attorney Jonathan and his great teams’ supports. I applied in late March 2023 and money already deposited to my bank in middle September 2023. I probably already gave up without you and Jen’s solid and caring guidances. I am very blessed that you took my case. ❤
Thank you for your kind words!
This is good to know
Thank you for sharing. I appreciate your information.
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Great information. Thanks‼️
First been watching ur channel for years. I'm currently on SSI all this information is helpful as they come after me every 5 years
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Excellent information to have! Thank you
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Yes it was helpful
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I live in my vehicle. I apply for disability November 1st by phone. I haven't worked since last September.
Thank you Jonathan, this video showed up at the perfect time! I have been receiving SSDI benefits since September of 2020 and at this time I plan to go back to work. Not sure if I can work full-time again and it is amazing to have the information you provided. $1200 a month sounds like a good goal for me as I venture back to a working schedule.
Can you tell me if that $1200 is gross earnings? Thanks again
Yes, the figures for SGA or a trial work period month are gross monthly earnings (not net).
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Very helpful very thank you Sir
Thank you.
Ya your attorney that gave me a free evaluation really was off of what you say here. Plus he only wanted to take a cse that he could win,basically a slam dunk type only. He wasnt interested in hearing or considering my disability issues/ect Basically he stunk. I need an attorney that would help fight for me,not just presenting a no contest case to a social security judge. Wtf
Thanks for the info. Do you have a video like this that pertains to someone who is already on SSDI? I’ve heard attempting to go back to work will trigger a medical review?
The rules for the trial work period are different than the rules for SGA (see 4socialsecuritydisability.com/faq/ssas-confusing-tables-of-numbers/). I'll add this topic to the list.
Very informative
Glad it was helpful!
I’m nervous about getting denied because I’m only 25 but I have severe depression in addition to Tourette’s and schizophrenia. I work part time to pay for my living expenses but it’s truly difficult for me to work anymore. If it’s not body pain, then I can’t focus. If I can focus, all I can focus on are my body pains. Tourette’s makes life so challenging. I applied in April. Still waiting for a decision.
Good morning Mr Ginsberg, I been receiving SSD since 2019, I’m 61 now do I need to file a different form of SSI ?? since I heard 6 months before 62 we need to change SSD to regular SSI ? regular retirement?
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My representative shared with me a letter to the ALJ after the hearing. He had issues with some of the VE testimony and his data, some of the required job abilities, and also pointed out places in the medical record recorded when asked about dates/doctors and I couldn’t remember. And pointed out things in the record that the judge never asked about.
Can you do a video explaining this post hearing “letter to the ALJ”?
Thank you
Hello Jonathon. Im 58 years old and I recently had my 2nd ADJ hearing. I believe I will get a favorable decision; the judge had very few questions, most of his questions was regarding the onset date, my onset date was the day after my unfavorable decision after my first hearing, and the vocational witness answered NO to all 3 questions from the judge. My question is if I owe back federal taxes from 10 years ago, would that be deducted from my lump sum/back pay?
Pure hell!
I'm on ssi and i tried to work for the first time but the job only lasted 3 days so I'm kinda annoyed that i cannot do it but i tried at least
Can you do a video about after, and you want to try working. I keep getting offers saying they can work with ssa and it'll only be light easy part time stuff. I'm 56, and already had one med review at 3 yrs. They also claim that if I can do it there will be no more reviews.
Working part time after winning your disability case will not stop your reviews. Best of luck to you.
Jonathan listen I want to ask you a question I got Ovrrpayment from SSI actually I got the billing statement but I never get notice of Ovrrpayment so my question is if there is no notice of Overpayment there is no overpayment?? because Social Security “have” to send me notice of overpayment is that true??
Thank you
Can you comment on how being part time self employed affects you if you are applying for disability? I read the rules differ some. I'm not talking about working for Uber though that's a question too. I mean occasionally selling crafts you make, doing a graphic design project, or teaching an art class occassionally. Of course I mean doing this while keeping the income under $800-$900 as you suggest.
Several years ago I was telling my clients that on-going part time work muddied the waters and could hurt your case. Now, with delays approaching 3 years, I think that most judges realize that you may have to pursue part time work - self employed or otherwise - to survive the backlog. I tell my clients to keep a log of what they are doing and difficulties that arise. When they testify I ask them about the part time work and why the part time efforts represent the maximum of what they can do.
Mr G if you been on SSDI for 5 yrs and wanna work part time can a work review or a CDR come bite you
It took one year to be accepted for Ssdi. Lots of hoops to jump through. They never answer their phones
Hello. I was approved for SSI but DDS is recommending that I have a payee. I don’t think I need a payee. What is the best way to appeal that decision? Thank you
I am working and need to quit. I dont want to work at alk cause of daily pain in neck and back. I may have hurt my ability to file by continuing to drag my sick butt into work? I recently realized i need to stop working due to constant flares. Can you help me navigate this plan? Thank you
Hello.
I am currently on SSDI.
I have a question, but its different from the video topic.
Will a none injury(discrimination) lawsuit settlement cause me to lose my SSDI benefits and will I have to file a 1099?
Applied for ssi and now gonna go in March 2024 for my consultive exam for dds and ssa to determine if I'm disabled enough to qualify for ssi,I'm about to be 61 in February this year 2024 ,I think mine 700+ but I don't bring home very much its less then 200 twice a month ,ssi is 943. A month for ssi, my q is how much will I get from ssi ? I'm in Texas by the way
How can I contact you about questions on filing disability and etc?
How long can a jdge. Just sit on a case after 2 hearings without an answer? And the next step would be the higher court but he won’t budge to say yeah or neh to move to any sort of progress. Mind you that second hearing had to be requested 😮. Started last Winter … it’s almost winter again. This is absolutely just…….
It’s gonna take God and the angels to move on this if you ask me!!
I am terrified. I never went over SGA but I may have come close a few times. That looks really bad. How do I explain how I managed to work part time (but not every day) ? I recently got a work history form…a bad sign. Please tell me how to explain the work. My disability is mental.
Can I apply for a government job that's not physically demanding and still apply for SSDI?
If they are understaffed can I get a job there?
Please further elaborate how Volunteering in the Community could hurt someone's Application for Disability or a Recipient who already Receives Disability from keeping it.
I have mentioned this before in some of the Facebook Groups I am in that Social Security could Use that against someone but several people don't want to believe this. I told one of them to Check out the other Video you did on this where you Touched on it briefly there too but they don't get it. They don't grasp that Volunteering can affect their Case for Disability either as an Applicant or as a Recipient of the Benefit.
Since I last Talked to you I had mentioned I won my Case for SSI which was good but the Amount I got was very low because of other Money I Receive because of my Mom. Because of that it became unsustainable so I had to go to Work Part-Time at Amazon. As a result of me doing that I had my Check Suspended all together but am still Classified as SSI Eligible.
SSA defines "disability" in terms of how your medical problems prevent you from engaging in "substantial gainful activity" Volunteering can be considered substantial activity. If an activity is roughly equivalent to what you might do at a simple, entry-level job then SSA may considered that unpaid activity as SGA.
@@ssdattorney thank you very much.
I do have a question though. I lost my job in August of 2022. In May of 2023 I had my leg amputated
Before the amputation I was driving for a app-based business called roadie.
I was trying to get government benefits and they consider that income. What they didn't understand was that I did not make much money after I paid for gasoline, insurance and wear-and-tear on the vehicle.
Maybe about six to eight dollars an hour.
I could use some money right now even a little bit. But how do I explain that to a judge for a social security disability?
Thank you for your help.