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This pistol is also a dumpster fire for reliability... it has more malfunctions than Pamela Anderson doing jumping jacks wearing an "A" cup bikini top...
No it's not...has gotten RAVE reviews all over RUclips....Archon Type B Mod 2....is the one to get.....even DJ Shipley from GBRS loves the Archon Type B
@Jakkbot no? The 92 has a moving barrel, it has to move back to unlock its locking block and eject. I know because I literally play with the sliding barrel function constantly
@@davidjean6753 It has a cam link that makes it tilt when it moves back. That's what the lugs are for on top of the barrel, to lock into place while in battery and to unlock as it moves rearward and tilts. The breach end tilts downward to unlock. It's literally called the Browning Tilt Action design that's derived from the 1911. Most other guns have a type of locking block to do the same thing, but it's still all considered to be from his design.
That's exactly what I was thinking. The whole point of the tilting barrel is to significantly reduce jamming, and I find it very hard to believe that any marginal bit of accuracy improvement is going to be worth that sacrifice.
@@morningstar52 Type A ( or Stryk A) is a longer version of the Archon. The one to be seen here in this Animation is NOT the Arsenal Firearms Strike One, which was the predecessor with a quite different design, but the later Archon Type B, which can even be seen written on the right sides view in front of the cartridge chamber.
@@CptnCache yeah, a gun store I know is the main dealer for them in my country. Idk if they still sell to America but they probably do since it's their biggest market
@moosecrumbz it absolutely moves back. When it is in battery the end of the barrel protrudes past the end of the guid rod about 5/16 of an inch. When the gun cycles the barrel slides back to where the end of the barrel is even with the end of the guide rod.
Have you seen the Beretta m92f and the Walther p38. There are so many short recoil pistols where the barrel doesn't tilt, instead moving straight backwards or even rotating while doing so.
Bullet is likely already in the target by the time the barrel tilts. By necessity the bullet has left the barrel by the time the breech face unlocks otherwise the case would blow out
The only way to increase the accuracy is to use a fixed barrel this is where direct blow back has an advantage but don't stress about that too much because the gun is always more accurate than you anyway regardless of the action your always the weakest link in the sense that if you where to fix the gun to ensure no movement at all between shots you would not be able to replicate the results Unless you have super powers
Not really. What reduces accuracy is empty space between the barrel and the slide (not even touching on ammo or the barrel rifling/crown). Tilting barrel designs can be just as accurate as long as they lock up well (which they do) and minimize barrel movement in the slide with tighter tolerances. Take a chambered tilting barrel handgun and try to rack the slide slowly. You will see how strong the lock up is.
RUclips shorts pay literally 5% (five cents every thousand views) compared to a normal video. If RUclips wants higher quality content, they can pay their creators more. Frankly I'm pretty proud of the AI program I wrote for these videos, and I think it does a good job.
@@Bluedrake42 That is actually reasonable, I honestly hope you get more views in the future because your content is actually really informative for both people who do and don’t know much about firearms
This mechanism is not nearly as unique as the Russians are claiming, reciprocating non-tilting barrels have been appearing in pistols since at least 1898, the Royal Armory's channel recently did a collaboration with Forgotten Weapons and featured a Schwarzlose Model 1898 which both features this barrel concept AND a rotating bolt.
There are nearly no relevant use cases for a pistol where firing a single accurate round is all that matters, recoil vector being linear helps reduce muzzle flip
Really ? Ummm ? That's true of every firearm on Earth. What's this "Tilt" They're talking about ? I've owned quite a few automatics and the only movements, in a 1911 .45 ACP, I've seen were after one pulls the trigger and the casing is ejected, leaving the barrel "floating and loose", for a millisecond until the next round is chambered. At that point, the barrel has been repositioned perfectly and held securely in place and ready for the next round to be fired.
@@johnpeek827 the tilt we are talking about is Browning's design that you see in the vast majority of pistols since mid 20th century, including the 1911, designed by Browning also. It's a way of recoil operating the cycling of the gun. And yes, the 1911 barrel does tilt, even with the bushing at the front. Position shifts from cycle to cycle and it also affects the recoil pattern. Hence why the very best 1911/2011 have stupidly tight tolerances
Tilting vs. a straight line would make a none or negligible difference in accuracy. Having a lower bore axis will help recoil control which makes it easier for you to shoot accurately but thats not the same as accuracy of the barrel.
Yeah any gun that has a barrel not locked into place will have slight accuracy issues. All this design does is make the recoil feel flatter, nothing else.
Have you seen the beretta px4? It’s barrel rotates instead of tilting
Have you seen the Austrian _M1907 Roth-Steyr?_ It's barrel rotates instead of tilting 😱
It also shoots remarkably smooth for it's size
Yeap. It makes complicated what was simple. I prefer a 92f. And I dont like the 92f
gimmick
Have you seen Russias grach pistol? It has a rotating bolt instead of a tilting one 😊 Like cmon berettas overrated.
This is actually the Archon Type B gen 1 which is derived from the Arsenal Strike One. Easiest way to tell is by the grip module
These videos tend to get a lot wrong
Or there is also the logo and name on the slide clearly visible in the video……..
If i am not mistaken this pistol is manufactured in the Czech Republic am I right?
At least the Archon works 😂
@@danielpospisil02 The Archon is indeed a Czech firearm.
This pistol is also a dumpster fire for reliability... it has more malfunctions than Pamela Anderson doing jumping jacks wearing an "A" cup bikini top...
Going to need to see some live action videos of that comparison. 😂
Yeah…
Prove it…😂😂😂
She's goin on 60 now. We're gettin old. lol. I wonder if kids today even know who she is.
No it's not...has gotten RAVE reviews all over RUclips....Archon Type B Mod 2....is the one to get.....even DJ Shipley from GBRS loves the Archon Type B
92f and P38 in the room: "So who's gonna tell him?"
Ppk too
There's a lot of guns that don't use the tilting barrel design. The difference here is Archon didn't put the barrel 3/4 above your trigger finger.
Beretta pistols have no tilt barrels too
Like, for a century.
They don’t reciprocate backwards like this does, they are fixed barrels
The Walter p-38 did this a long time ago
@Jakkbot no? The 92 has a moving barrel, it has to move back to unlock its locking block and eject. I know because I literally play with the sliding barrel function constantly
@@Jakkbot Many are not fixed, but move straight back without tilting. The have a little cam lever that tilts.
A Browning 1911 doesn't tilt... A Beretta 92 doesn't tilt... Non tilting barrels is not a new thing...
I take it you've never handled a 1911. The barrel definitely tilts.
@@SomeGuy-vo7wewrong. It actually doesn't tilt. Show me otherwise. 🤷♂️
According to the manual, the 22 does not tilt but the 380 does
@@davidjean6753 It has a cam link that makes it tilt when it moves back. That's what the lugs are for on top of the barrel, to lock into place while in battery and to unlock as it moves rearward and tilts. The breach end tilts downward to unlock. It's literally called the Browning Tilt Action design that's derived from the 1911. Most other guns have a type of locking block to do the same thing, but it's still all considered to be from his design.
I’ve seen RUclipsrs with the strike one and you’ll need to bring bread and peanut butter whenever shooting with all the jams it has.
Now that's the truth but who's gonna tell it? Or not many
That's exactly what I was thinking. The whole point of the tilting barrel is to significantly reduce jamming, and I find it very hard to believe that any marginal bit of accuracy improvement is going to be worth that sacrifice.
@@Dremth Right! They created a far worse problem for a slight increase in accuracy.
Mine never jammed. Had a pair.
@@Megzamani You must’ve gotten a good one!
Original manufacturer went bankrupt. Archon bought all their patents and renamed it to the Type B.
whats the type a
@@morningstar52 Type A ( or Stryk A) is a longer version of the Archon. The one to be seen here in this Animation is NOT the Arsenal Firearms Strike One, which was the predecessor with a quite different design, but the later Archon Type B, which can even be seen written on the right sides view in front of the cartridge chamber.
No arsenal firearms are still active and still make the strike one.
@@Lucky_MiTo. Really? I thought they were still just selling their old stock.
@@CptnCache yeah, a gun store I know is the main dealer for them in my country. Idk if they still sell to America but they probably do since it's their biggest market
"Point three fove seven sig"
That made me chuckle too
Me three
Me four
i for myself 🤔🤷♂️
The “Alien” does this the BEST
Not really, I’ve owned two and they kinda suck for the price. A Atlas is significantly better.
Yeah, for less money I could buy a competition gun with a port barrel and comp that is much higher quality
@@danbublolI was really disappointed in my alien, as the build quality and finish of the gun was nowhere near it should be for the price
The lower heats up crazy tho
@@danbublol whats a atlas?
Beretta 92 barrel moves in straight line as well. It helps with suppressors too compared to Browning tilting barrel.
you can suppress a browning action, just need a muzzle device with a spring to counteract the weight of the suppressor
Still need a nielsen device because it goes back and forth in the Beretta.
The Baretta 92 has a fixed barrel, meaning it doesn’t move at all.
The 92’s barrel is pinned and doesn’t move
I’m aware I just wanna see people get pissy
@moosecrumbz it absolutely moves back.
When it is in battery the end of the barrel protrudes past the end of the guid rod about 5/16 of an inch. When the gun cycles the barrel slides back to where the end of the barrel is even with the end of the guide rod.
Have you seen the Beretta m92f and the Walther p38. There are so many short recoil pistols where the barrel doesn't tilt, instead moving straight backwards or even rotating while doing so.
The Beretta and Walther are *fixed* barrel, not short recoil. They don't move at all.
@@firstpersonducky9333 stop with this. The barrel moves back about 5/16 of an inch when the gun cycles.
And the accuracy difference is negligible lol tilting barrel is king for a reason
Cz52
Beretta 51
Finally a gun i had no idea it existed.the straght barrel movement does sound logical that improves accuracy.
Check Makarov pistol action. Barrel is fixed to the frame
Bullet is likely already in the target by the time the barrel tilts. By necessity the bullet has left the barrel by the time the breech face unlocks otherwise the case would blow out
The only way to increase the accuracy is to use a fixed barrel this is where direct blow back has an advantage but don't stress about that too much because the gun is always more accurate than you anyway regardless of the action your always the weakest link in the sense that if you where to fix the gun to ensure no movement at all between shots you would not be able to replicate the results
Unless you have super powers
Why not take a step further and eliminate the barrel movement altogether? Laugo Alien, if you want precision and don't care about the price.
Not really. What reduces accuracy is empty space between the barrel and the slide (not even touching on ammo or the barrel rifling/crown). Tilting barrel designs can be just as accurate as long as they lock up well (which they do) and minimize barrel movement in the slide with tighter tolerances.
Take a chambered tilting barrel handgun and try to rack the slide slowly. You will see how strong the lock up is.
Oh I know. It’s a 127mm mk45 naval gun right?
Seen this in Modern Warfare Remastered as Prokolot.
prokolot is such a stupid name for a gun in russian
@@antwerp-six Agreed, but it's how they called it in MWR.
🤓
@cloudnein8114 Look, it's how the game called it. Not me.
Kinda looks like the Laugo Alien.
Or the Makarov, or any fixed barrel pistol since that's all there is in common between this and the alien
Steyr makes a similar one in .40
Steyr pistol has a tilting barrel
Beretta px4 storm barrel spins in place rather than tilting. Id take that.
This doesn't even move
This YT Short got me to subscribe
rip bluedrake fr. homie got replaced by ai
RUclips shorts pay literally 5% (five cents every thousand views) compared to a normal video. If RUclips wants higher quality content, they can pay their creators more. Frankly I'm pretty proud of the AI program I wrote for these videos, and I think it does a good job.
@@Bluedrake42hold on?! This was AI generated O.o
@@Bluedrake42 fair
@@Bluedrake42 That is actually reasonable, I honestly hope you get more views in the future because your content is actually really informative for both people who do and don’t know much about firearms
@@Bluedrake42I'd be really interested in where to get started with AI assisted (quality) content.
27 types of 38 caliber ammunition
u mean "point 3-5-7"...
Just wait until they make a strike 2 and 3, then go bankrupt
This mechanism is not nearly as unique as the Russians are claiming, reciprocating non-tilting barrels have been appearing in pistols since at least 1898, the Royal Armory's channel recently did a collaboration with Forgotten Weapons and featured a Schwarzlose Model 1898 which both features this barrel concept AND a rotating bolt.
No one is claiming that mechanism is unique, even the gun manufacturer. Where did you take that from?
@@deudex from the video. He prolly assume Bluedrake was reading out the product’s description from the manufacturer’s site or something
POINT THREE FIVE SEVEN? 😂
As opposed to point four five or point four zero.
@@ronjohnson8119 ah yes, my favorite caliber
I don’t see what’s so 😂
.357SIG
@@christianmartin4229 shut it Martin.
Anyone else get anxious when the barrel was flagging?
No tilt barrels are in Berettas desert eagles revolvers and many others lol
Thats an Archon type b, which uses a falling block system. strike one has a rotating barrel.
Really?
No
The Laugo Alien comes to mind.
All I thought about was that one pistol from Black Ops 2
Five seven?
No, kap40 @@echotomoka6957
Isn’t this an Archon? Also Berettas don’t tilt
Wait til this guy learns about some of those Beretta guns.
I’m so high and the loop was so smooth I watched this 3 times until I realized it looped😂
The cod ost in the background is heaven
Archon firearms type b!! I have the airsoft version
“Supposedly increasing the accuracy of the gun while the sight moves back with the slide”
Walther has been doing no tilts for a long time
Archon. Or a GSH
There are so many pistols like this, even glock has a rotating barrel model.
I’ve complained for years about barrel tilt during cycling.
Honest Desert Eagle reaction
For this John wick it's perfect
Beretta also built around that design and obviously increased its performance with the Beretta 92 line.
"..introduced in 2012" 😂
The bullet will leave the barrel before there is any recoil.
There are nearly no relevant use cases for a pistol where firing a single accurate round is all that matters, recoil vector being linear helps reduce muzzle flip
Really ? Ummm ? That's true of every firearm on Earth. What's this "Tilt" They're talking about ? I've owned quite a few automatics and the only movements, in a 1911 .45 ACP, I've seen were after one pulls the trigger and the casing is ejected, leaving the barrel "floating and loose", for a millisecond until the next round is chambered. At that point, the barrel has been repositioned perfectly and held securely in place and ready for the next round to be fired.
@@johnpeek827 the tilt we are talking about is Browning's design that you see in the vast majority of pistols since mid 20th century, including the 1911, designed by Browning also. It's a way of recoil operating the cycling of the gun. And yes, the 1911 barrel does tilt, even with the bushing at the front. Position shifts from cycle to cycle and it also affects the recoil pattern. Hence why the very best 1911/2011 have stupidly tight tolerances
Today youtube thinks I am interested in guns🎉
The bullet is long gone before the recoil affects the trajectory.
I used to own a pair. Really liked them.
the lexington from cyberpunk
“Rome wasn’t built in a day but this 9mm was, GIMME THE FUCKING FENTANYL!”
"UMP IT WAS A BALL! NOT A STRIKE!"
No wonder rust called it the Prototype
“Point three five seven”
I thought it was a Springfield at first...I don't typically get these wrong very often
I can think of many guns that operate that way including a redesigned 1911
M9 has a similar barrel system. Px4 has a rotating barrel system. Both guns are accurate and px4 especially is a sweet shooter
I've never personally seen one make it through an entire magazine.
I think the Alien stands out more
They already achieved this literally in 1896 with the Mauser c96
The 92FS barrel doesn’t tilt either, it slides backward
Even the Luger P08 already did that
Needed to wait a millenium just for a firearm designation
I think you mean Chiappa Rhino. 😂
Laugo Arms Alien, baby!
The berretta M9 also does this.
Beretta and Smith&Wesson would like a word.
Berreta been doing that
It looks like a rich man’s glock
Apparently you have never heard of the Beretta M9… standard side arm of the Navy and Marines forever !!! Since the 1911…
Finally, a gun that I don't know.
I thought it was the sidekick from halo at first 😭
Shooty shooty bang bang?
Thats pretty cool but a fixed barrel like a desert eagle but not as chuncky would be really sweet and the slide wouldnt weigh as much either
I’ve never heard of this
My Sarsilmaz K-12 Sport has a no tilt barrel
Beretta has been using the rotating barrel system for quite a long time
This is not a rotating barrel mechanism
This pistol loves cleanliness, it loves it very much, otherwise it will let you down at the right moment.
Tilting vs. a straight line would make a none or negligible difference in accuracy. Having a lower bore axis will help recoil control which makes it easier for you to shoot accurately but thats not the same as accuracy of the barrel.
The tilty barrels do not affect accuracy anyway
"Straight line" All lines are straight.
Idk why but this gun looks like something you'd create in-game by modifying the starter pistol with alien blueprints
You can also put the mag in the opposite direction and change the mag release really easy
Lago alien also doesn’t use the Browning tilt
Fun fact
This gun is used by Cassian (chief bodyguard of the organization's leader, Gianna D'Antonio) in John Wick 2.
The bullet leave the barrel BEFORE its moves back. Thats why tilting barrel desing isnt les accurate.
Yeah any gun that has a barrel not locked into place will have slight accuracy issues. All this design does is make the recoil feel flatter, nothing else.
Makarov doesn't have a free floating barrel and it stays stationary
The bullet leaves the barrel before it has a chance to tilt. The barrel could do a backflip and not affect accuracy.
All semi-automatic pistols before Browning did not have a rotating barrel. The barrel never moved. It was fixed. Bryco, Jennings, etc.
Russian-Italian joint might be the strangest part of this video
They've been friends since WW2, so not as strange as you may think.
They were enemies during ww2. Russia was allies, Italy was axis. @@SergeantExtreme
Student? Study some more...
@@techeteri I have, Mussolini Italy was fascist while Stalin Russia was communists. Fascist and commies are enemies. always have, always will.
@@techeteri tf are you even saying? So random
M40
Beretta m9 has had this since the 80s. Amd I'm sure this goes further back than that
The "APF" wrote across the slide make it look like an airsoft pistol.
I absolutely loved my Beretta PX4 storm in . 45 acp
Saw a px4 last week, bought a Stryk one it's as it's designed as shown. Moving double taps provides unreal results
Fun fact: The FN Five SeveN also has a fixed barrel that does not tilt.
CZ made a non-tilting barrel semi auto pistol back in 1975 that was decently popular
Tilting barrels don't affect accuracy. When the side starts to move back by .010" the bullet is 16-20 " out of the barrel.
There are multiple pistols that don't have a tilting barrel. The strike one definitely isn't alone
Beretta 92s barrel doesn't tilt either...
My friend has one ... jam-o-matic.
Hi-point has fixed barrels.