Full Size Impact Driver Head-2-Head Comparison
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There's no doubt that Impact Drivers have completely changed the construction industry and drastically improved both productivity and quality.
Impact drivers allow users to more quickly install threaded fasteners while avoiding damage to the fasteners.
In our latest H2H we've selected ten full size impact drivers.
So many impacts have changed, I feel like his one needs a redo =)
I've already requested that. There's so many upgrades that I'm sure Makita wouldn't take first place
Some of the comments are interesting to me. Comments like “people just buy whatever impact they already have battery packs for” I just don’t get that. When I was a kid playing Pokémon my cousins used to make fun of me for trying to catch em all, literally. Now that I’m grown and don’t really play Pokémon as much, I’ve shifted that “catch em all” mentality with power tools. It’s so cool to live in today’s time with such great job innovating, time saving tools. I own Milwaukee m12 line, several dewalt drills both 12v and 18v, I have the Hitachi dinosaur that I’ll never get rid of because now they’re branded Metabo. I just wanna Buy em all! Great review man 👍🏼
I've had the same Makita Impact Driver since 2014, I use it all the time, it never quits and the run time is amazing. Makita tools overall are the most reliable and long lasting IMO.
I just want to say as a contractor I really appreciate these videos several times now I’ve made purchases solely based on these videos and never have I been disappointed keep up the good work guys we really appreciate out here on the job site
You guys talked me into the Makita -- and I have to say -- totally awesome. Thank you for your amazing work.
Being young and only in the trades for summers during college I didn't want to spend a ton of money... But then the boss bought a hilti and let me run with it for a day and I bought one with that weeks pay and haven't looked back. The quality of the tool down to the perfect joint of the over molding is just amazing.
Trevor Tobias Hilti is great quality
I love my Makita impact driver... I bought the xdt13 first and then bought the xdt12, it's a night and day comparison.
My dad also bought the xdt12 after we were working on a project together and he was using his DeWalt and then my Makita just happened to be in closer reach and he drove one lag bolt and was sold!
The rest of the time I kept having to look for my Makita, and yup, my dad kept taking it. LoL.
I feel like a proud parent watching Makita finish towards the top in every category. I use the hell out of all my Makita 18Vs and have been almost 100% satisfied after 10 years of pro use. Thanks for a good review!
13:16 RIP headphone users..... great information though!
I like how you and your team elaborate about tools and tool capabilities regardless how popular a brand is, performance, durability, cost and tool quality are your baseline to evaluate tools. Tank you for your time, your hard work and your honesty.
I'm very happy with my makita, it was neat to see how they placed against the field. I've been using makita for probably 10 years and wasn't sure how they stacked up :) I know around here the dewalt guys are pretty vocal with their feelings of superiority 😆 I upgraded to the brushless makita last year and I've been very happy with it.
I bought a brushless Makita about two years ago and it's been excellent, except for the tendency of the rubber part on the top of the base to separate. I'm buying a Dewalt now, but keeping the Makita.
Both excellent choices! I'm sure you will never have a problem with the Dewalt.
Bought a makita kit 6 yrs ago and still going strong with the 3AH batteries.. It was time to add another impact driver to the bunch and stayed with makita due to battery compatibility.. Ended up buying a late model makita BL impact driver with 2 5AH batteries and 2nd charger.. Best tool purchase decision this yr. My brother just used it the other day and was amazed by its power and speed at driving 3 inch screws into lumber over his rigid impact driver..
If you watch other videos on the same drivers, Dewalt wins nearly time. All depends on the user an their needs.
@IIoveapplefritters - That's a ridiculous statement. DW makes excellent tools. I think they should do something about their battery slop to tool issue. It's easy fix with some tape behind the battery catch but you shouldn't have to do that.
The makita is the best. I tried dewalt, Milwaukee, rigid. It didn't feel the same. Makita felt great and had balls. Everyone in the dealership I worked for had a makita. Very light and I the dewalt gets dirty fast when working in the automotive industry. It's perfect for 12mm, 10mm, and 14mm. I tried taking a lug nut and it removed it on a tundra.
Uses 2753 Milwaukee, but the 2853 is now out and newer videos show it beating the pants off the DeWalt 887.
All these tools are amazing. It’s great there is so much competition. It’s great for us consumers. I’m really enjoying getting into all the tools out there.
Great to hear!
The Kobalt looks like a pretty attractive option for performance on a budget.
It is. The Kobalt batteries are dirt cheap. Like start at $10 each cheap.
I had a kobalt impact for 3 days before it burned up. Went to dewalt and haven't been disappointed yet.
@@morganthemotoman they have 3 year warranty on the tools
@@michaeldavidmontalvo2402yup. I sent it back and got my money back. Don't need any more trouble with any more of there tools!
@Sephiroth k as someone that works at a scrapyard who's owned the kobalt impact for a year now i concur. My job requires to take everything apart from ac units, computer towers, 200lbs+ fan motors, water meters, to Industrial equipment my kobalt has done all.
I’ve been using porter cable impact and drill set and I’ve never had a problem surprised to see it didnt grade so well
Compared to standard drill drivers any impact driver wins :-)
People will go with whatever brand/battery kit they already have. I use Hitachi and have been very happy with them.
V T
They have just rebranded to hokoki
I find them too heavy. Especially when you have to swing them around all day.
Few weeks ago i accidently dropped my Dewalt on a concrete floor, from about 5 meter high. Although it landed on the battery side, it hurt alot . Both the battery and the impact driver still running strong!
at 13:25 the volume gets hella dank😂
I read this comment, forgot about it and watched the video. When 13:15 hit my neck tensed up and I thought 'That guy from the comments definitely has a point'. RIP anyone with ears.
"... so, it's no longer apples to apples...... WHEN YOU CONSIDER PRICING ALONG WITH PREFOMENCEJA;LDFJ;LDKJF;LDKFJ"
*_Tools Intensifies_*
Freakin TOOLZZZ
Yes, I cringed and struggled to get to the end
@@upliftproductionsbc haha same thats when i stopped watching
I went with Kobalt 24v for impact, drill and heavy duty impact duties. I love them especially at thier price points. I even got an open box hd Kobalt 24v impact driver that makes 650ft lbs of torque for only $85!!! Reg retail was only $169 but without a battery at that price is still very impressive and handy for those dark nites changing tires on the side of the road. Kobalt has been very good to me and for the price I think they are a winner. Ever test here the Kobalt was right behind tools twice its price and they still didn't vote is as a good value?!?!
Completely submerged my dewalt impact with battery into 33 degree water the other day. Took me about 15 to 20 seconds to fish it out. Still runs like a champ. However, I will agree with his testing, the batteries to housing attachment do have some slop.
Ive been in a carpenter and builder for 30 years , and one can never go wrong with dewalt or makita. I use both products.
I've just started looking to upgrade to a full line of cordless power tools. This is the first video I have seen on same. Great job. I will look for more reviews on here for the rest of the tools I plan to purchase. Thanks for the vid.
Scott Albright If you go to www.toolboxbuzz.com website and look in the right-hand column you will see a photo that says head-to-head tests that will take you to the page where all of our articles and vids live
Makita is my favorite. Solid, reliable, and charges fast. Batteries are long lasting
That Hilti looks nice, not overly designed like the rest.
At 20% the cost of almost all of these... and being a non professional... the Porter Cable certainly suits all of my needs. Around the house and garage..
Craig Cundiff I think thats the key here. This really seems to be a test for professionals with a "time is money " factor. I'm also a Porter owner and a non professional. My Porter hammer drill and impact driver have never failed me. For around the house projects, its been fantastic.
Bredaxe yeah..I like there whole line up...👍
Yeh I felt the same with Ryobi, It all depends on what you are going to use them for. For most average use the Ryobi has a wonderful variety of skins you can add at an affordable price. For us Professionals though, we will go for quality because lost time is lost money. On the job I use Dewalt, Hitachi, Milwaukee, because they won't fail.
I own all the tools in the porter cable 20v lineup and have had zero problems. I do own my business so I use them minimum five days a week. They did test the new 647 brushless impact here, and I have noticed that it has significantly less torque than the older brushes 640. I also have a 640 that I replaced the anvil in from a dewalt 3/8 impact, so now I can use sockets without an adapter.
Colin Bluett wouldn’t it make more sense to buy a more economical product and get a backup? Or have a backup budget (since you can go to a local Lowe’s or Home Depot in most cases)? Even the best brands have a significant failure rate, I’m sure. I’m asking mostly as a business minded question, not saying anything of specific tools. I’ve seen a variety of drills torn apart on RUclips videos and the differences of quality drills outside the low budget range really aren’t that extreme.
I’m just a basic homeowner, I built a privacy fence and shelves. Nothing to big. I researched on a lot of tools. I decided to buy a Rigid because of the service warranty. I figured I would spend the money on one tool and keep it for a “lifetime”. I really like it but to only issues I have with it is that it is big, bulky and with a 5 amp-hr battery, it got heavy. However I bought it in a kit that included a free orbital sander and a snake light(which I did have). Thanks for the reviews! Dewalt was my second choice.
Wish the new Ryobi brushless impact was in this vid. Love these head to head videos!
I was thinking the same thing. I have the P238 and I can't believe how powerful it is - and I am (was) a Dewalt guy.
This outcome is not surprising. Always were the best and still are.
Hilti makes very high quality tools with exceptional build quality . people seem to overlook them all the time
dustinnovo they sure do!
I own the Hilti and the Milwaukee. It's the Hilti I reach for every time! It is a beautiful tool to use all day. I find the huge power of the Milwaukee too unmanageable for what I do. I tend to drive pz2 or 3 screws from 2" to 4". It's difficult to stop the Milwaukee just spinning the bits out of the screw. I also love my Hilti gen 2 SF6H A22 combi much more than my Milwaukee.
Dave.
That's a good test dude . No harsh comments . Good job and thanks .
Ran over my Kobalt with a semi truck on accident and it still works flawlessly
Outstanding video. The time you and your crew take to come up do these creative test to provide real results for contractors to go out there and purchase the quality tools. Thank you so much for your time in making this video. Kudos all around to you and your crew 👌👍
My Mikita impact has routinely defecated on the competition since I purchased it in 2009. DeWalt finally stepped their game up but it took them awhile.
I've got a coworker with probably the same impact you have, about the same age. The hardest thing it has to do is drive 4" golds into studs for cabinets but it does it fine and fast to this day. Is yours still kicking 2 years after your comment?
What is important is battery life, driver power, and the amount of other tools a company produces allowing interchangeability with the same battery system. I like my Porter Cable 647 driver a lot. Milwaukee is probably the best overall system with the number of tools offered. DeWalt has gone downhill with there battery tools. Bosch is rock solid. Craftsman took a dive with quality but looks like new models are improving. I have never tried many of the brands tested. But PC is my choice for now.
We would love to redo this test in 2020
I appreciate all of you guys efforts to do these tests. I really love to see another head to head with all of the new brushless impacts. I noticed there were a few impacts there that we're old models and brushed that most likely were gonna rank higher or better
Our pleasure!
just love this channel, best reviews by far
I love these videos. I can't stop watching - I'm not too surprised at the results though. While a long term test can't be done, I'd like to see testing under hard conditions - maybe there is and I haven't found it yet? I wonder about this because I see Ridgid showing decent numbers in every tested I've seen and my experience was similar. My problem was that they quit when they were used for long hours in the heat, all day long. Milwaukee and DeWalt have not failed me on that front and I've seen Makita run hard too... Just a thought. I've seen Ryobi keep up just fine as well - with lower power usually though.
went through 2 M18 fuel impacts. The only ones that stand up to the beating, and keep working without issue every day in my experience are dewalt and makita.
Also, not sure if you noticed this in your tests but when building decks and subflooring, the m18 fuel impacts heat up quick and slow down considerably after a handful of screws/lags. Did not notice a considerable slow down with dewalt and makita in my experience...
@Timms MC imo hilti is only good for powder, gas and pneumatic tools
I can’t kill mine. It will get hot on large fasteners in a large quantity. It wasn’t designed to drive every fastener you can put a socket on.
This was a well done video, I am a novice to all of this but it was exactly the TYPE of information I was looking fof
You guys do the best tests !!!! Thank you so much for what you do !!!! Keep up the good work !!! :D
100% agree with you on the dewalt slack on the battery. Other than that I love it! Tell you what, once stoped an 18v dewalt by accident from roughly 8 feet high area onto concrete and still worked like a champ.
headphone users beware - ear destruction @ 13:15
rob, i think a lapel mic would help improve audio a lot.
No man its a shotgun Mic and for the life of me I don't understand what happened. Its fine in my editor. It happened with the RUclips upload - SORRY!
Doing some diagnostic testing now to prevent it in future
try a lapel mic in the future.
thanks
Not that it was part of the test, but one of my co-workers dropped my Hilti impact 35 feet from a lift, straight to the floor this week. Being the tool nut that I am, I was going to throw him off the lift to see how he liked it. To myself and the rest of my crew's surprise, absolutely nothing happened to it. Still works like a charm. I don't know what would happen to these other tools, but I know I will continue to buy Hilti for the foreseeable future.
Great, in depth video. My only critique is you audio volume is really hot.
I know - not sure what happened on it.... working on preventing it next time
Great video. Would be great to see an updated video with newer impact drivers.
Noted!
glad i just bought some Makita impact & drill combo
I used a porter cable at my work every day and it lasted about 6 months, first a battery went bad then it started not turning on when I pulled the trigger. It still works but I just replaced it with a Milwaukee, hope it won’t disappoint.
should include harbor freight tools in your comparisons, just out of morbid curiosity 😁 see what performance you get from weapons grade chineesium.
Stop it - harbor freight is junk
lol someone has been watching AvE
generally yes, but a couple different RUclipsrs did a comparison reviews of their new "Snap On killer", the Harbor Freight Earthquake XT Impact Wrench and it faired pretty dang well. Im still kind of in disbelief.
Different class, I get that. Harbor Freight is junk I agree, but sounds like somethings are a-changin
Harbor Freight tools have their purpose.
Micah Houghton those were air powered not battery
I see that piece of plate metal hacked with a torch and I have to say, "yup, no welders in that bunch." That being said, all batteries should be the same size, all the tests have shown a direct correlation between battery size and performance. I appreciate the thought to show a set or kit, but those are forever changing at the box stores and online. Nice testing, really appreciate all that work.
Jake - We appreciate the feedback. Trust me, if we could get all the batteries the same that would be preferable. But the reality is that's just not possible. First of all, they all make different sizes, and some are different voltages. While there can be some difference (not likely in small to medium size fasteners applications), we highly doubt it made any difference i the tests we did. BTW...the plate was a scrap I pulled out of a cut-off pile from my welder LOL :)
Understand, I have been pouring over cordless brands trying to find a replacement for my old 18v Makitas. Brands, batteries, kits, pricing, store and web only models/packages....Omg this stuff is crazy. Thanks again for the head to head and not roasting my comment.
Jake A. We're here to try and help....we love feedback from all of you. We certainly understand your frustration!
Absolutely love my Ridgid Pulse driver!
I love my ridgid tools also, almost as much as I love my F150
@@XD45OWNER amen brother!! Lifetime guarantee is pretty hard to beat as well... love Ridgid.
Great review as always. I have the new model Dewalt 895 and couldnt be happier, but I also have the Makita platform as well. Looks like I cant loose
Wanna talk about value: Ryobi Impact driver AND a hammer drill with 2 battery packs and bag. $129.00. I can live with 3-4 100’s of a second driving screws. I could buy 3 sets of these for the price of some of the others.
Les D where can I buy this? Current price I can find is 220 dollars
crunch9876 actually they are 99 dollars now
Francisco Quiñones can you send me the link
Cuz the drill by itself is showing up as just 99 dollars for me not bothtogether
I just got the new Brushless hammer drill and Brushless impact driver kit for $114. Sold out now tho. Hammer dr8ll has 750in lbs and the impact driver has 2200in lbs. Every couple months home Depot will have that kit on sale when it's in stock. Sells out fast tho so keep an eye out
They had a great sale a year and a half ago when i bought the driver, drill, circular saw, sawzall, flashlight, charger and 2 batteries for $160 if i remember correctly. Incredible tools, i find them more comfortable than the milwauke (which is the other kit i use). I go for them ahead of the milwauke
Still thanks again. I always see a video from you guys. And then decide what I am going to buy
Audio starts over modding at around 13 minutes making it very hard to watch the last few minutes. Nice set of results thou and glad to see my Dewalt is doing ok :)
Jason Showell i'm not sure what happened, it's fine when I listen to it in my editor program on my computer
I think I'm going to change microphone battery
A Concord Carpenter / ToolBoxBuzz , I will have a re listen, might just have been my end.
Jason Showell my end too.
I heard it to
no it was me
Love my Kobalt impacts and drill drivers I've had DeWalt and Milwaukee and they are both great too
I have many of the Ryobi one system tools... I don't necessarily agree with your results.... my Ryobi impact driver has performed great... I wouldn't necessarily put it in the same class as Milwaukee or Dewalt but it ranks right up there with rigid and other big name brands.... as for Makita I wouldn't use their tools if they gave them to me for free... i've used them in the past and always had some kind of issue... now I'm not going to be an idiot and say that Ryobi is the best power tool in the world but for the average homeowner or DIYer they are the best bang for the buck... if you are a contractor then by all means I would trust Milwaukee or Dewalt.... simply put for the price you pay and what you get with Ryobi you can't beat it.... I even have my own little phrase for Ryobi.... Ryobi... power...quality... price... nuff said
The deck fastener test is about right during tool reviews everyone states I build decks. Oddly enough bosch had been good enough till my wife wanted a backyard oasis and deck that wrapped the pool. The deck was 18 ft x 20ft modified herring bone... and Bosch wouldn't fit. I did camo screw hidden fasteners. I needed a new impact and drill for bracing. I picked dewalt knowing good brand and u.s. made. Built it bought more dewalt tools. It was either a great vacation or relaxing yard. I worked 2 jobs and built in free time. 6 months later she had dream, and I had built quite collection and followers at work. Now sadly despite my efforts the area we lived in, started down a few years later. I sold my new home at 65k profit in 4 years the high bidder decided to inspect my deck... well I used the dewalt books for code and went above. The inspector came back best deck in 30 years he had ever seen 1/8 of inch off in in 20 ft... we closed at the price. Now I had not found a new place with new wife yet. We bought a fixer up. Here in Texas all neighbors are well past 500k I paid 240k and started remodeling living with my best friend. He never asked for funding his home was clean and he had dinner everynight. My wife and me worked for months. We moved in after a few months to added bathroom a new master bedroom and bathroom and closet. A year later new windows, new kitchen and new exterior. I left my commercial equipment with my friend and bought a gravely 260 for the farm and a deere 900 series here. My friend is wealthy he has begged us to buy in together because he couldn't buy the help. My wifes dad and 3 others own oil company and they are impressed. To be honest from 5 years of age I had a rifle and shotgun and ran ag equipment. I was given a 400 acre farm , I chased mechanics and ended up with 2 degrees doing law enforcement. I have the farm, I have ffl and my wife is teacher with home based bakery. My point from early on buy good stuff, and push on. Challenging yourself. At 37 I feel I'm doing well. But the tools dont cheap out you cant buy back time. Second chase knowledge and research at night in bed how to, and look up videos. We have the knowledge our predecessors dreamed of at a click. Our tools are amazing I know 3 different cabinet makers and we are surprised what is available. I switched from building ushra race vehicles to enjoying building and remodeling. Early on ikea or HGTV was nearly a divorce but now my wife goes buy it. And shortly it's in use the difference is what would be weekends is few hours now.
I've always been a dewalt fan
Nooooo
@@joeframer9642 no. ruclips.net/video/31g0YE61PLQ/видео.html
Makita, DeWalt, and Ridgid are my favorites here. Honorable mention is the Kobalt, pretty good to see them keeping up with the big guys! Least favorite has to be Portercable.
I love my makita impact for HVAC work. What makes it even better is that the company I work for buys them for us 🤙🤙
Looks like a lot of work, thanks for all of your efforts here.
Hey alright lol. My impact driver in my truck is the Makita tested here. I'm surprised at how defensive people get over their drill and driver brands lol
I find that it correlates well with their tool and battery expenditure.
I don't ever really comment on RUclips videos, but I just want to say awesome job on the review! I'm just now getting into the trades, and looking to buy my first impact driver (as well as my first drill/hammer drill). Me personally, out of all the reviews and info that I have gathered, I'm most likely going to go either DeWalt, Makita or Milwaukee (though, I do feel like I'm leaning more and more towards DeWalt on past experience and current info research on it). All seem to be fairly similar and all seem to do the job really well though.Thank you for the well done review, definitely earned a sub. from me!
My kobalt consistently comes in high mid in all these tests even the drill. My step dad has Milwaukee fuel and he likes my kobalt better. I sure do like them. I hope Lowe's doesn't ditch them for Craftsman.
Lowes owns Kobalt.
all brushless too
@@teknicol right, but they're doing a deal with Craftsman, I do like Craftsman but the kobalt is much much tougher the Craftsman wouldn't hold up to my kind of abuse XD
Very nice, well rounded and fair assessment of the brands of Impact Drivers. Like you already eluded to the choice margins on which to have are paper thin and any of the brands would compliment any enthusiast. But I like your presentation and look forward to more to come, if only for the heads up value of whats available out in the market place. Keep up the great work Gents and Thank you.
DeWalt fan for life!!! #TeamYellow
Hats off to Makita, they have a well earned reputation for consistently making quality power tools. Hilti stuff is expensive but bullet proof quality with a rock solid guarantee. Surprised that Bosch did not do better. The torque specification is more applicable when removing fasteners.in the automotive servicing and repair trades. Good comparison.
The “slop” in the battery for dewalt is intentional. They say it’s supposed to dampen the shock to the battery cell and make the batteries last longer. Not sure if that’s true, but it makes some sense.
Thomas Bechard yea they could have just designed it better but the number one cause of fail to these lithium ion batteries is vibration so dampening that vibration is a big part in the way they design them.
TactiCali Industries I think we are on the same page. The video seemed to imply a design fault, but I was pointing out the intentionality of the design to protect the batteries.
Imo that's wishful thinking unless you read that from dewalt HQ. Doesn't seem legit. Makita does dampening in the actual grip of their larger impactors but the batteries are still snug in their bases.
De Niro really knows his impact drivers. Good video.
Chris Miller haha funny!
I just can’t get past the generic look of hilti.
For some reason it's simplicity makes it attractive for me
@@cyclozene spot on
I know what you mean. It looks like something you'd get at the dollar store yet it's one of the best out there lol.
Make sure to use the same impact socket adapter, and no mixing of shallow vs deep well sockets. It does make a difference. I noticed the Makita was rocking a shallow impact socket, while others had deep well chrome. Otherwise, awesome video.
I use Milwaukee because the variety and they are pretty good quality but Ryobi is actually a great value and good product. But for a pure impact driver Makita has always been the best they had the first full size cordless saw too.
Great video, you guys should remake it with the new surge and rigid stealth
I like these kinds of comparisons, but the results have always been the same for the last couple of years in that they're all good tools. Grab the one for the platform you already have, period. Then the question becomes, "Who has the best battery platform?" Objectively, Milwaukee has the largest lineup in its class, covers the most trades with the widest breadth of products, and has been growing exponentially for years with no signs of slowing. If you're starting with a new platform, it would almost be crazy to not go with Milwaukee.
roguegeek very compelling argument, you could say the same for Makita or Dewalt
DeWalt with the XPR battery pack is by far my favorite tool brand, for any tool they make.
lol, you tested some brushed motors and some brushless. Why not go all of one category?
I so agree I want to see a head to head with all the update brushless impacts
@Phelebas but still some of the rankings would have been alot different with the up to date impacts. Like the Milwaukee gen 3 wasn't there if it was it would've blew makita out of first place
I put down 7500 self tapping corragated steel screws with my ryobi 5 hours+ on each battery over 4 days. (Big battery) even dropped it 20 ft onto dirt. Still is a beast.
Great video Rob!
Results 14:20 #1-Makita, #2-DeWalt #3-Hilti
Kobalt low kee held its ground
I was wondering if anyone was gonna talk about that blue devil nipping at the heels of the big dawgs lol. Legit!
Agreed i hope they keep expanding their line-up, one i would love to see is a multi-charger
@@codyspradling4821 kobalt is all brushless as well
Yep i have the impact, sawzall, & angle grinder
@@codyspradling4821 how is the grinder? also looking at mini hakczall
I found this review is useful
I have been using makita XDT14 and DCF887 for my weekend project. Both impact drivers are the best in quality. The only complain is DCF887's bettery fits little loose, same goes for DCD996.
You can't compare a cordless brushless impact driver tool to a brushed motor impact driver. Also the bit attachment & socket has to be all the same brand manufacture. Batteries also have to be perfectly matched between all impact driver's.
TheAarowsmith Great feedback and suggestions, we try to accommodate as much of the similarities as we can, but when we start talking batteries the technologies are fencing so fast it's difficult to compare apples to apples anymore
I got my DeWalt from CPO refurbished and it's never missed a lick. LOTS cheaper too with a charger and 2 batteries.
Ridgid really impressed me in these tests.
Justin NYC when it comes to price and warranty ridgid just can't really be beat. they consistently perform very close to the more expensive brands but the cost us always better. the only downside is their tool lineup is a little smaller than the other big brands, and you can only really get them at Home depot.
We consider Ridgid a hidden gem....our crews use their tools all the time and we love them.
RIDGIDS great!
Love the new cordless router too
Ridgid is strong and fast with great prices for new guys but they dont last. maybe over current protection isn't as good as the others or they let it suck more amperage to run stronger at the cost of longevity. I've never had any other brand impact get so hot it hurt to hold it from driving 4 in drywall screws.
Fair play to Makita I wasted a lot of money on their last lot of 18v lxt tools. But this seems to show its latest instalment of 18v stuff has massively improved. I bought a kit set of makita about 4 years ago to replace my old Dewalt nicd kit. However I was really disappointed with a few of the tools even comparing them to the old Dewalt stuff wasn’t a lot in it.
My apprentice bought the equivalent of that kit in Dewalt only a month or two later and his tools were far superior to mine. We tested each tool extensively for almost an entire day onsite and his beat mine in every test we set, even the toughsystem tool boxes were fantastic compared to a hold-all bag that came with the makita! So after a couple of months of feeling a bit shitty about my tools, I sold them for a third of the price I paid for them and bought Dewalt.
It’s good makita is beginning to improve and come good as it will drive all the other brands to improve and keep each other honest.
I’ve recently had all of my tools stolen so am having to rebuild... I’ve decided to invest in the flex volt system by Dewalt and have been really happy so far and hope these tools will see me out.
Good video btw
The Kobalt really impressed me. Kinda disappointed the dewalt came in last on the average torque.
Considering they only used the 2.0 battery on the Kobalt compared to the 4.0 (Porter-Cable) and 5.0 (everything else) the Kobalt did awesome. Don't know why they didn't use the 4.0 battery (come on, it's only $50!).
P0tat07 we tested the couple with the 5.0 battery as well, But we wanted to show what you can get in a kit, the video shows with the smaller battery. Read the article for mor battery info
These tools are not designed as Torque wrenches. This was only included in the test as a demonstrative comparison. It is not a recommendation to use it out side the manufacturers design duty. The Dewalts are solid don't worry!
I wouldn't let that steer you away from it. I have a friend that uses a dewalt impact driver daily and he puts it through hell. The thing looks like it got run over by a truck and it still works absolutely flawlessly. They're really well built tools.
greenskiis what do you think the Larger capacity battery would change in terms of performance. ? Larger battery only increases run time , nothing else.
yea i picked up a kit at home depot that had the ridgid R86037 impact, R86116 hammer drill, a charger, two 4 AH batteries and a bag for just 200 bucks. that's a hella good deal
Could y’all do one with the 1/2 impact gun
That's a grease monkey tool not a contractor's tool I think that's why they haven't done it.
Caleb M I use my 1/2 for construction
@@Joecabal Interesting do you do steel framing or what?
One thing that also never gets mentioned which is super important probably because one company destroys the competition is the recharge time and battery chargers. A Milwaukee 5ah battery takes 90 minutes to charge. A Makita 5ah battery takes literally half that time, 45 minutes. If that isn’t a huge selling point especially when you are constantly using batteries and changing them out and recharging, any carpenter knows recharge time is important. I own the Makita Xdt12 impact and it is as impressive as this review makes it seem. It is so small and lightweight and comfortable combined with so much power and technology on the driver itself that no impact driver even comes close including the new Hitachi triple hammer. If anybody is looking to get a new impact or even start with a new brand, I highly recommend Makita just for it’s battery platform alone and also because of its great quality.
Not really, it's not like they need to be full to use them, in fact it's better for the batter to not fully charge them, so just swap when one dies. Also for an impact, if you're killing it in less than 90 minutes on a5ah battery, that doesn't seem like a very good 5ah battery. I have a hard time killing a 2ah DeWalt battery with an impact in that time running it almost not stop.
I would of liked to see the Rockwell RK2868K2 impact included in the test
Excellent review! Very helpful as I am preparing to purchase my first impact driver.
The only thing not making it a slam dunk for the Makita vs the Dewalt is that I have read that the Makita batteries go bad faster compared to Dewalt and this is because Makita places a complicated circuit board in the battery instead of the charger while Dewalt has a basic circuit board in the battery and the more complex one in the charger. The batteries take much more of a beating and therefore, the Dewalt wins on having better battery life.
This is just a bit of research I conducted. Tough choice either way!
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"Complicated circuit board"? At Makita we call it "Star Protection" and it's smart technology that allows the battery, tool and charger to communicate during use for optimum performance - and to PROTECT your cordless investment. Batteries and chargers are the heart of any cordless system, and Makita does not cut corners on these essential components. As far as the issues you describe, we've not heard related reports or complaints from the field. But we do know that the enemies of all batteries include extreme heat and excessive impacts (in fact, we get reports of people using the battery-end of a drill as a hammer - don't do this!). To get the most out of your cordless investment avoid excessive heat and impact, and always follow the guidelines in the Instruction Manual.
Ya, I'm a carpenter/general contractor & I can't agree with thim comment. Dewalts are engineered to be abused, I'll give them that. Makitas are designed with everything in mind. They can be banged around with anyone for years, but you won't be betrayed for a different lineup of tools, probably for forever. Their at 15 years now for their 18v lithium-ion line up. Good luck slapping a Flexvolt battery on a 2007 XRP drill.
Glad to see DeWALT is doing well
Like if you agree!!!
I LIKE my DeWalt stuff. All mine is DeWalt, Milwaukee and Makita with a B&D thrown in for good measure AND a Sears bench saw!
Nice, thorough, well thought out test.
In my job it have guy using Hilti, makita, Milwaukee, dewalt, festool,ryobi, the dewalt is by far the leader
Harrish Persad lol this is a silly comment
I am seeing this 5 years after it was done. Have you thought of repeating it now, after the many changes made in the tools since this was done,
Dewalt got eaten alive by Milwaukee in a vs test. Dewalt was smoking and hissing and sounded like it was gunna blow up in a guys hand. For durability (the thing that actually matters, as you said they all perform) Milwaukee is the way to go. I've been using an m18 fuel for a while now and there's not a SINGLE thing it won't do and I bet almost anything it'll outlast anything on the market
Shawn Armstrong Your fucking dreaming the Dewalt blows away the Milwaukee
Shawn Armstrong been using the first gen Milwaukee m18 with the 4.0 battery for over 5 years as a dish installer and it has been through hell and back. Only killed one battery but the impact is still going super strong. Not a single hiccup!
bdwagster tube I agree
that was a drill test. these are impacts, totally different animal. dewalt drills are whatever but their impact drivers have been leading the market for years.
I love my milwaukee gen 2 had it for two years and its has had a very hard life. Still going strong.Bout to get gen three. Outperforms everything else
Looking to go full bore into getting into a cordless tool lineup. I currently own only corded Dewalt Circular Saws, Orbital sander, a rotozip, and a couple of cordless drills - main one being Porter Cable's 20V max Drill.
I've been DYING to get more tools, but for the last 1-2 years I've been on the fence as to which brand I should go with. And the reason I want to just go with one brand is so I can just buy like 6 batteries and then just buy bare tools from there... in other words..... save money overall. That said though I am reading reviews and watching reviews that pretty much say there is no clear winner. I am slowly coming to the conclusion the power tool game is no different than the beer or truck game. Despite Budweiser being the most sold/popular beer brand out there..... they get shat on by a ton of people...... because they are so popular and therefore more people have tried Bud so therefore there will be more detractors. Ford is the most popular truck and is much the same story. I am finding DeWalt is the Budweiser of power tools. I found an article that as far as sales go (how I'd gauge popularity) DeWalt outpaces every other brand by almost twofold. Meaning Makita, Milwaukee, and others are all fighting for a distant 2nd place in terms of sales. With this being the case it is becoming less shocking to me to find more and more people in the comments section of reviews shitting all over DeWalt. Why? Because WAAAAAAY more people have used it and as a result, more people will be detractors of said brand...... but you also need to realize there are a proportionate group of people who LOVE the brand as well.
So what am I getting at? I've come to the conclusion there is no "best" power tool lineup anymore. I mean everything is plastic and made overseas nowadays so there is no true quality anymore and CERTAINLY no definitive line between contractor/pro grade tools and home/residential/DIYer grade tools..... just varying degrees of power capacity. Since I have more experience with beer, haha, I equate the main power tool brands as follows. DeWalt is the Budweiser of tools. Milwaukee is fittingly the Miller of tools (for those not in the know... Milwaukee is the home of Miller Brewing Co.). And Makita is the Coors of tools. Every other brand like Bosch, Ryobi, Porter Cable, Festool, etc. are all varying levels of craft beers trying to break into the upper echelon of power tools. I say this because after 1.5+ years of going over article after article and review after review DeWalt, Milwaukee, and Makita are the clear top 3 brands. That is not disputable. After that it's pretty much a crap shoot as to which is "best" and sounds like a pretty subjective debate.
So what am I personally going to do? Which brand am I going to go with? I'm still not sure. I actually am thinking about just going with an assortment. Because another universal agreement among users and reviewers is that no one brand makes the best of every tool. I mean EVERYONE (at least everyone who has been around tools in their lifetime) knows that Milwaukee is known for their recip saw, the Sawzall. I mean their branded "Sawzall" is so popular people refer to ANY recip saw as sawzalls. Like how people call adhesive bandages band aids.... despite band-aid just being a brand of adhesive bandages.... or people calling all tongue and groove pliers Channellocks...... because the BRAND Channellock mastered and is known for their tongue and groove pliers........ although, I being in the industrial maintenance professional world, I am finding that German brand Knipex murders Channellocks in the pliers game. As painful as that is to say, I try to stay loyal to American brands, but there is no telling me otherwise that Knipex is far superior to Channellock. While Knipex is more expensive the quality is blatantly obvious and better. When it comes to wrenches, high torque industrial tooling, pliers, allen keys/wrenches, I know what is the best and what is the worst. I am wanting to up my DIY/construction game at home and to do more side work. So I am no starting to become open to the possibility of just going with an assortment of cordless power tool brands...... or - continue my "old school" mentality (despite being in my 30s) and continue with just getting corded tools. They're more powerful and reliable than ANY cordless tool hands down. I'd say a corded Ridgid power tool will crush anything the top tier cordless brands' equivalent tool could bring to the table. I'm thinking dealing with cords and lugging a generator around when I'm out on a rare/random job or helping my brother-in-law build a deck might be worth it. I mean having a generator would be nice not just for power tools, but also for when the power goes out. So there's that. I figure if I plan on getting a generator for power outage purposes might as well use it in the times I'll need to power my tools, no? I mean that's how contractors of just 10-20 years ago made it through their jobs before this cordless boom. Also...... corded power tools use metal gears and gear boxes.... and other critical tool parts whereas pretty much every other cordless brand utilizes plastic gear boxes and critical parts. And then to top it off..... corded tools are usually cheaper, mainly because they are just falling out of "style."
So my conclusion is..... I think the best route might be going the corded route.... and just buying a cordless drill/driver for around the house BS..... or just stick with the solid drill/driver I have by Porter Cable (it's handled everything I've thrown at it already). Or... go with an assortment of cordless tool brands, picking tools that that brand is known for dominating in. BUT.... that comes with the drawback of owning a stupid amount of batteries and proprietary battery chargers because god forbid tool brands just use a universal battery pack. Why that hasn't happened yet is baffling to me. I mean imagine if every electronic device only used its brand's proprietary batteries.... and the universal AA, AAA, D, etc batteries didn't exist. It would be insane. Well, that's the cordless power tool market. It's just a giant headache, and one I am thinking I don't want to put up with and just go the corded route.
#teamMakita lol
I'm in automotive, not construction though. Both stressful on tools, but different arts I believe
Im in automotive also and i got a porter cable and not the one they have, the older brushless one. Lasting years and takes off lugs all the time.
Automotive work any impact driver will be great for small screws and bolts..
It's the impact WRENCH. THAT WILL MAKE THE DIFFERENCE...
MECHANICS DEAL WITH WAY LESS FASTENERS THAN CONTRACTORS.
IF YOU EVER BUILD A DECK YOULL SEE WHAT I MEAN!!!
THE AVERAGE MECHANIC TOUCHES LESS THAN 300 FASTENERS A DAY..
THE AVERAGE CONTRACTOR FASTENS OVER 700.
HOME IMPROVEMENT WILL PUT A 1/4" HEX IMPACT DRIVER THROUGH HELL
AUTOMOTIVE WORK NOT SO MUCH.
trust me, the Dewalt can take a beating, i owned one for 2 years now and i use it for Carpenter and for mechanic work, so it gets covered in Dirt dust oil grease, and i dropped it from the top of a 2 story building a few times and from the top of a 988 hood. still going strong.