Great effort, Video never does the angles justice, I can only imagine how intense it felt. Every good off roader makes a mistake, its how we recover and learn that counts.
Thanks for uploading Scott, I see what you mean, that was a small error I myself did not expect that. I am at the point of decision for putting a winch in my LR4, I think I’ll get for it for the peace of mind, you just never know. Keep on sharing with us. 👍🙏
You should have reversed straight back when you first went off track instead of going hard right hand down and trying to drive forward. It's easy from the grandstand though. 😁
Great recovery job. I’m very keen to get a bull bar and winch for my D4 as well and have looked at ARB and OL, only glitch for me is after fitting a bar and winch you only have 100kg “payload” left on the front axle before maxing out.Annoying that such a great off roader has so few after market accessories. A hidden winch behind the original bumper was another thing I looked at but none are ADR compliant in Oz, OK in Europe tho so can’t understand why not here.Be very interested to see which winch and bar you choose so please keep us updated. Cheers James
It is for exactly this type of mishap that I have both front and rear mounted winches...I am able to pull to the side while I advance...done it many times
Good job! "...strangers who came out to recover my 4WD for nothing more than petrol money." Real 4x4 attitude. And to my mates for calmly dealing with the situation & making the vehicle safe before recovery could be effected. I will be running a winch before tackling this type of track again. Tuffant steel wheels 18" - www.tuffant.com/tuffant Monsta MTs in 265/60/R18 Music by David Hyde soundcloud.com/davidhydemusic... Used under a Creative Commons license.
A question please, in the video it seems that the trees on your left were not too far from the car, could you have been able to lean on them if you were alone with a front winch???
I don't think the trees would have helped, just not quite in the right place. A strap to the side/rear tensioned with a ratchet would have worked together with a winch (if I'd had one).
In situations like that the driver should only take steering directions from one person at the front. He should not trust his own judgement on what he can’t see.
Wow, that's a thriller! The trail seemed to be rather straightforward, who knew it may be that dangerous. Btw, why did you saw the sill? And, what happened to the suspension, why did it drop?
The rock slider has a bottom plate to prevent sticks and stones coming up through and hitting doors. It also helps slide over obstacles better. But it needed a hole for the winch rope to be attached. I have now added two holes each side for any future situations where I need to hold it from moving sideways.
@@sienaoverland when the vehicle has been finally pulled onto the road, I noticed its suspension was in access height mode 🤔 Though, it must be a filming angle or something...
I have skid plates welded to the underside of the sliders. The gap was too small to pass the winch hook or soft shackle through. The plates are good for preventing sticks coming up between slider and door and also prevent stones flung by front wheels from hitting rear arch flares. They also aid sliding over some obstacles. But now I know some holes are needed to allow a shackle to be attached.
Good question. Likely yes this would have been the best option if done right when first getting off track. Certainly looked to be the answer when reviewing the video but at the time we didn't think to reverse.
@@sienaoverland Cool thanks Scott. Nice car by the way. I pick up my first series 4 HSE in the morning to replace our old Defender. Looking forward to it. Will be nice to have a bit more comfort.
Reverse immediately there was an issue, it'd probably have driven out straight out, too many people make situations worse by thinking forward is the only way out.
@@sienaoverland the other thing that might also help is recover backwards. Everything is a choice on the day so there is no right or wrong unless it doesn't work... You can always stop and replan, that's the beauty of having a few vehicles and winches to recover someone. You got it out which is the main thing, but if the mistakes and talking helps people in the future it's all worth it. :-) Everyday should still be a school day even for the competent and professionals, that's what life is all about. :-)
Swan Gully Park. A few good tracks but can't access most of the property without getting through some tough tracks. Having said that, I was virtually at the top of this one and through the most technical stuff.
Boy oh boy does it look scary! My partner and I are from Vic and we love going on little 4wdrive adventures, just last week we did Toolangi but it's way too boggy this time of year.
wow that was sketchy and from what seemed like a mundane situation - do you think you could have recovered yourself with a front winch - genuine question not being smart. I am thinking that a winch is a must on my D4 seeing events like these.
This is my main motivation for posting the video; the potential consequences from a mundane situation & not focusing on risks in the right priority. Yes I believe self recovery was feasible with a front winch. But it also needed the rear sideways restraint, which could have been provided by a strap tensioned with a 2t ratchet, a couple of which will be added to my recovery kit now.
Videos never do off roading justice, you don't get a proper perspective of how rough and steep some of the trails are, good recovery aswell my arse would of been twitching in the drivers seat
What vehicles were used in the rescue? The dark one winching from the front and the white one that seems to be winching from the back through a snatch block?
dunno why you ninnies go lkg for trubbles, been in landrovers since 1967 never got in that sort of trubble, with 4x4s dozers or wheel tractors, have a d4 and go hundreds of kms from the nearest people, so i suss it all out first, ah well you,ll get the hang of it , maybe, one day
@@sienaoverland thanks, i had tractors stuck, i was on my own all my life, you buggers are just kids with dough to lose, taking a flash car to places you shouldn't, thanks for your love, and by the way, if you have to have 100 people to tell you where to put your wheels, well words defy me, carry on:))
I don’t normally comment on stuff like this and not to be rude but this is some extremely amateur stuff..I have worked with and ran land rovers mostly the D2 platform and some LR3/4 off-road in Overland for a long time but it just makes me sad to see this in America because it makes the Land Rover community look weak and that is the reason why serious off-road guys that use jeeps and other rigs do you not see Land Rovers as serious contenders off-road because every time they go on RUclips you see some stupid stuff like this.. I mean for god sake‘s you’re on a beginners trail with spotters lmao smh 🤦♂️.. and as far as what the heck you guys are trying to do with your recovery is insane you made it so hard when it could have been so easy smh.
Nothing wrong with the spotting. I didn’t wait for him. This is almost at the top and through all the difficult sections so I was already pumped to finish. I should have been paying attention to the outside slope or waiting for the spot.
😂😂😂 Land Rover guys... all you need is one strap secured to the roof rack to prevent rollover and someone to winch them out. Oh... and next time stay on road with that pavement princess
I agree why would you bother being careful recovering some old $5k Jap 4b, like I bet you own, but it you owned a $90k vehicle I bet you would look at it differently, start saving you will get there eventually. … have a nice day.
Great effort, Video never does the angles justice, I can only imagine how intense it felt. Every good off roader makes a mistake, its how we recover and learn that counts.
Thanks, I appreciate that. That's what pushed me to make this video and post it publicly.
@@sienaoverland great vid mate what tyres are you running and size please
One great lesson out of this is keeping calm! Best way to get out of any sticky situation. Thumbs up!
That’s right. Anyone can make a mistake but how you deal with it is the key.
Yous guys made that look really hard......
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awesome vehicle
Serious pucker moment there I bet! Good drills though, in securing the car, and then safely recovering it.
Mark Pewsey oh yeah definitely, so lucky
Thanks for uploading Scott, I see what you mean, that was a small error I myself did not expect that. I am at the point of decision for putting a winch in my LR4, I think I’ll get for it for the peace of mind, you just never know. Keep on sharing with us. 👍🙏
Winch coming to a certain bronze D4 soon 👍🏻
Nice recovery, very delicate situation right there!
Your Disco 4 is not too shabby my man!
Beautiful machine 🤩
Cheers 👍🏻
Damn Scott that was crazy! Glad you kept the rubber down and got it out ok.
Thanks for posting, I'm definately getting a winch! Glad your ok 😀
Thank you for sharing this. Great job on the recovery. Glad everyone is safe and the Rover was not damaged.
Thanks. Mistakes get made. What matters is learning from them.
Phew! This was an intense situation mate! 🥵Good you got out safe and sound 💪🏾
Once I was like that with my D3, we made a similar recovery too, but we also used the roof rack to make the vehicle safe, it helps to prevent rollover
Roof rack was considered but the concern was its capacity to hold a side load it’s not designed for.
Oh My Goodness. Glad it all worked out OK.
And I love this car.....
Guys, one of the best videos ever!!!! Really good job!!! Please be careful next time!!! Regards from spain!!💪🏻🖖🏻👌🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks and yes I will be treating this type of situation differently next time. Also getting a winch.
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You should have reversed straight back when you first went off track instead of going hard right hand down and trying to drive forward. It's easy from the grandstand though. 😁
I agree Mike, both in regards to reversing being the best thing to do in that situation and in regards to hindsight being 20/20
not even my car and i was holding my breath.. btw love the color got the same one :D
That was just too good
Great lesson!!! Thanks Scott
Wow! Great effort lads
Good recovery. Wont be taking that line again.
Lol, not wrong about that.
Perfect example of why you don't off road alone!!
no perfect example of boys playing, the reason i have a LR is so i CAN get away from people
Great recovery job. I’m very keen to get a bull bar and winch for my D4 as well and have looked at ARB and OL, only glitch for me is after fitting a bar and winch you only have 100kg “payload” left on the front axle before maxing out.Annoying that such a great off roader has so few after market accessories. A hidden winch behind the original bumper was another thing I looked at but none are ADR compliant in Oz, OK in Europe tho so can’t understand why not here.Be very interested to see which winch and bar you choose so please keep us updated.
Cheers
James
I can't understand why you insist on burning the dirtiest coal on the planet to generate your electricity. If only you had sunlight to use instead...
Awesome video mate, great recovery, could of ended so bad
Well done! Good job!
It is for exactly this type of mishap that I have both front and rear mounted winches...I am able to pull to the side while I advance...done it many times
Winch is coming soon
I'm with you too, i have a rear mounted winch as well!
Whoa Scotty!!!
I know mate.
Scott H prospeed-group.co.uk/product/discovery-34-hidden-winch-mount-and-bull-bar/
WOW!!! That was hairy!
I was shitting myself just watching. Great recovery effort
Good job! "...strangers who came out to recover my 4WD for nothing more than petrol money."
Real 4x4 attitude.
And to my mates for calmly dealing with the situation & making the vehicle safe before recovery could be effected.
I will be running a winch before tackling this type of track again.
Tuffant steel wheels 18" - www.tuffant.com/tuffant
Monsta MTs in 265/60/R18
Music by David Hyde
soundcloud.com/davidhydemusic...
Used under a Creative Commons license.
A question please, in the video it seems that the trees on your left were not too far from the car, could you have been able to lean on them if you were alone with a front winch???
I don't think the trees would have helped, just not quite in the right place. A strap to the side/rear tensioned with a ratchet would have worked together with a winch (if I'd had one).
In situations like that the driver should only take steering directions from one person at the front. He should not trust his own judgement on what he can’t see.
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Wow, that's a thriller! The trail seemed to be rather straightforward, who knew it may be that dangerous.
Btw, why did you saw the sill?
And, what happened to the suspension, why did it drop?
The rock slider has a bottom plate to prevent sticks and stones coming up through and hitting doors. It also helps slide over obstacles better. But it needed a hole for the winch rope to be attached. I have now added two holes each side for any future situations where I need to hold it from moving sideways.
I don't recall the suspension dropping and there was no faults with it.
@@sienaoverland when the vehicle has been finally pulled onto the road, I noticed its suspension was in access height mode 🤔
Though, it must be a filming angle or something...
Dominator extreme from kings ive heard is great on reliability and performance
Getting a Carbon Winch 12k.
Hi Scott
What part did the angle grinder play. It's not to clear in the video. Great effort on recovering the LR.
I have skid plates welded to the underside of the sliders. The gap was too small to pass the winch hook or soft shackle through. The plates are good for preventing sticks coming up between slider and door and also prevent stones flung by front wheels from hitting rear arch flares. They also aid sliding over some obstacles. But now I know some holes are needed to allow a shackle to be attached.
It looks like you didn't even scratch it!
So just so i can learn from this...........should he have reversed rather than turn up the hill and go forward?
Good question. Likely yes this would have been the best option if done right when first getting off track. Certainly looked to be the answer when reviewing the video but at the time we didn't think to reverse.
@@sienaoverland Cool thanks Scott. Nice car by the way. I pick up my first series 4 HSE in the morning to replace our old Defender. Looking forward to it. Will be nice to have a bit more comfort.
Driving up the hill initially, why not stick to the uphill side more? The rut didn't appear deep.
Totally agree. That was my fundamental error, watching the inside rut more than the outside edge. Drove straight through the rut on the way back down!
That was painful
i would have tethered the roof rack as well
Why he didn't immediately reversed, instead of keep trying forward ?
Just didn’t think to do that in the heat of the moment
Master Level 👍👍👍
Nice video.Land rover made it.
Reverse immediately there was an issue, it'd probably have driven out straight out, too many people make situations worse by thinking forward is the only way out.
Totally agree, that's one of the key learnings for me.
@@sienaoverland the other thing that might also help is recover backwards. Everything is a choice on the day so there is no right or wrong unless it doesn't work... You can always stop and replan, that's the beauty of having a few vehicles and winches to recover someone. You got it out which is the main thing, but if the mistakes and talking helps people in the future it's all worth it. :-) Everyday should still be a school day even for the competent and professionals, that's what life is all about. :-)
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hi what is your wheel name? I want buy that😮
Details in description of video
Where was this? Looks extreme!
Swan Gully Park. A few good tracks but can't access most of the property without getting through some tough tracks. Having said that, I was virtually at the top of this one and through the most technical stuff.
Boy oh boy does it look scary! My partner and I are from Vic and we love going on little 4wdrive adventures, just last week we did Toolangi but it's way too boggy this time of year.
wow that was sketchy and from what seemed like a mundane situation - do you think you could have recovered yourself with a front winch - genuine question not being smart. I am thinking that a winch is a must on my D4 seeing events like these.
This is my main motivation for posting the video; the potential consequences from a mundane situation & not focusing on risks in the right priority. Yes I believe self recovery was feasible with a front winch. But it also needed the rear sideways restraint, which could have been provided by a strap tensioned with a 2t ratchet, a couple of which will be added to my recovery kit now.
@@sienaoverland Thanks glad everything worked out well in the end!
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never let 4x4 vehicle on the danger pathway risk trail
Videos never do off roading justice, you don't get a proper perspective of how rough and steep some of the trails are, good recovery aswell my arse would of been twitching in the drivers seat
You are not wrong about that. It was intense.
What vehicles were used in the rescue? The dark one winching from the front and the white one that seems to be winching from the back through a snatch block?
The main winch vehicle from the front was an 80 series Land Cruiser. The white one holding from the side was a Prado
What rims are on that landy?
Tuffants, details in video description.
@@sienaoverland nice one
He should stick to Overlanding or at least listen to spotter nxtym
Not necessary to go all those precautions
Moron
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dunno why you ninnies go lkg for trubbles, been in landrovers since 1967 never got in that sort of trubble, with 4x4s dozers or wheel tractors, have a d4 and go hundreds of kms from the nearest people, so i suss it all out first, ah well you,ll get the hang of it , maybe, one day
Always great to hear from someone who’s expert at everything and never made a mistake in 50 years.
@@sienaoverland thanks, i had tractors stuck, i was on my own all my life, you buggers are just kids with dough to lose, taking a flash car to places you shouldn't, thanks for your love, and by the way, if you have to have 100 people to tell you where to put your wheels, well words defy me, carry on:))
I don’t normally comment on stuff like this and not to be rude but this is some extremely amateur stuff..I have worked with and ran land rovers mostly the D2 platform and some LR3/4 off-road in Overland for a long time but it just makes me sad to see this in America because it makes the Land Rover community look weak and that is the reason why serious off-road guys that use jeeps and other rigs do you not see Land Rovers as serious contenders off-road because every time they go on RUclips you see some stupid stuff like this.. I mean for god sake‘s you’re on a beginners trail with spotters lmao smh 🤦♂️.. and as far as what the heck you guys are trying to do with your recovery is insane you made it so hard when it could have been so easy smh.
Typical Yank, another big mouth expert who thinks they know it all.
Basically shit spotting...
Nothing wrong with the spotting. I didn’t wait for him. This is almost at the top and through all the difficult sections so I was already pumped to finish. I should have been paying attention to the outside slope or waiting for the spot.
The lesson learned what a noob, two drive close to the edge of track like that. What a joke...😂👏
You spend 4-6 hours behind the wheel and one lapse of concentration is all it takes... Very easy to do.
😂😂😂 Land Rover guys... all you need is one strap secured to the roof rack to prevent rollover and someone to winch them out. Oh... and next time stay on road with that pavement princess
😂😂😂 RUclips know alls... Oh... and next time think about maybe not being such a try hard.
I agree why would you bother being careful recovering some old $5k Jap 4b, like I bet you own, but it you owned a $90k vehicle I bet you would look at it differently, start saving you will get there eventually. … have a nice day.