Found them along with Wheelock E70s in rooms and Wheelock LSM Strobes in bathrooms with DMP Pulls on a Siemens Voice Evac System at the 11-story Westin Tailsland Valley Midtown in Tailsland Valley, VA. For 4 Days and 3 Nights only for $488 plus expenses, rental car and Round-trip Air Fare on American Eagle from Seattle, Washington to Tailsland Valley, Virginia. Our Room Number is 511. Trip Date: Friday to Monday (9/7 to 9/10, prior to Hurricane Kelly)
These were just installed at the high school where I graduated two years ago. I wish they had been there when I was, anticipating fire drills and loud horns was extremely anxiety-inducing. The school, which has four separate buildings, just renovated two of them. As a building science nerd, I figured they would install voice-evac in one of the buildings since it has a large gymnasium, but I found out at their public open house that they installed Wheelock speaker/strobes not only there, but in the other building, a small classroom building, as well. I don't know what the message is, but I saw a Siemens panel if that gives any indication. Side note: In my opinion, the Fire-Lite message is ridiculously verbose and the Simplex message is way too slow. I prefer EST messages which are more concise. However, it astounds me that they never say about the nearest exit, "This may not be the same way you came in." Our silly brains automatically think that the "nearest exit" is the way we came in and people need to be told specifically that it probably is not.
While the E70 series may have a somewhat flush appearance, somewhat more classy; these do have a somewhat modern appeal, more box-like. Not sure why, but it seems more modern looking. Oddly enough, what I didn't bother to mention was that this is close to the 7001 series, with the strobe on top, audible on the bottom, etc. In fact, it's close to the size of the 7001 series!
A store at the local mall by me has E50's installed and actually play MUSIC through them. Never seen nor heard of that until I walked in there one day to look for sport items.
There's more and more fire alarm and intercom system (I am assuming that's where the music is coming from) integrated installs that are appearing. Walmart I know, has a few installs like this. Fire alarm voice evac systems are starting to become more and more popular due to the wide capability of notification options (Fire, and other Emergency notification) into one large PA-like system. I'm assuming there is a desire to implement your typical intercom system with the fire alarm system into one large system. Therefore, you have the best of both worlds; PA when you need to page someone/general ambiance in the store, and emergency notification (Fire, Weather, Intruder, etc) when you need it.
+FireAlarm42 I do like the design of these, particularly because of how close it is to the AS. The snap-on cover design makes life a little easier as opposed to the E-70 (screws that hold on cover-plate can get lost, luckily, haven't lost any yet).
How do you get the sound to the speaker? I've made a headphone to speaker cable and it's too quiet. If you use an amplifier, what amplifier do you use?
I shall make a speaker strobe for the purpose of people's enjoyment of and playing things like "Can't Forget You (ft. The Nicholas)" on an alarm via a 3.5mm jack... I think I can cannibalize an RSS and an old speaker...
The reason the ET70 goes up to 8 watts is because it’s a high wattage type of speaker. The E70 only goes up to 2 watts but the ET70 goes up to 8. The E50 goes to 2 and the ET50 goes to 8. I guess that’s just how Wheelock does it.
This video is still the standard 30fps; I am unable to record at 60fps at this time. I don't see the need to record in a high frame rate yet, I still think it looks fine at the standard 30fps.
***** Actually, you do have a valid point there, you may be able to see the light flash as opposed to the huge flash across the screen. Now I did say I personally don't have the equipment record in 60fps at this time, nor do I feel like investing in it just yet. However, I changed mind; I might be able to borrow a 60fps capable camera to try this out. Thanks for the suggestion!
***** Done! Uploaded the video yesterday. You're able to see the strobe a lot better. I found as long as the strobe a low candela strobe, you would be able to see the strobe.
+ivette lemus This particular device does have a speaker. If these were installed there, more than likely, it's a voice evacuation setup, much more pleasant than typical horn/strobes.
+I am now ded Yeah, I've noticed this, too. I'm guessing that that these brands are the most recognized/trusted for large systems, such as a hospital. That would be my guess.
+NewEnglandElevators Yeah, I have noticed that most emergency doctors offices and hospitals have speaker strobes. especially Wheelock. I don't know why, but i guess that is just the way it went out. :)
This is a nice alarm, I have enjoyed it so far. It's easy to wire the speaker, all you have to do wire the speaker from the audio source, preferably a 25v or 70v amplifier. Usually, these have some sort of Auxilary line input where you can plug in an audio source. Basically, you can plug in some sort of MP3 player (a cheap one or an iPod) or a Computer to feed audio into the amp, which outputs to the speaker. Other than making sure you have a sufficient audio source, it's easy to wire up, almost like wiring up a horn or strobe. The only thing I would say you would have to look out for is setting the speaker up correctly, making sure you have the proper voltage setting selected. It's probably not a good idea to send 70v into a speaker that is set up to accept 25v.
Oddly enough, no, I haven't lost power. Most of the snowstorms I have experienced, I haven't lost power, not even for any "NorEaster" or Blizzard. The only exception to that statement was a snowstorm in October 2011. Back then, I lost it for almost an entire week.
You would think we would lose it a lot up here with some of the wild weather we have (snow, thunderstorms, etc). Somehow, it's every once in a great while there is an outage of some sort, usually never weather related. Most of the time, the power is restored within 4 - 7 hours.
Like I said, I guess your just really lucky! I bet your the only one on the Eat coast that actually has power! And your over there with 5+ feet of snow, here in Oregon we have blue skies, sunshine, trees/flowers blooming, 70 degree temps. lol!
Spirit Mountain Casino has a mixed system. they have a simplex system and a notifier. There are simplex 4904 strobes,spectalerts (both classics and advances) and zrs,this alarm and e60.
For some reason, I would have originally guessed 2006-2008, didn't think they came out that early. Then again, the first time I saw one of these in person was about 2009 or so, so it makes sense why I thought these came out much later. Thanks for pointing this out!
I figured my pull station setup towards the end of the video was close to the said setup. Definitely seems likely you would see a setup like this; these are usually installed on some sort of Fire-Lite or Notifier system. Guess what those systems have for the pull stations, the BG-12 series!
My church has those alarms and they system is a Siemens. Also the school part watch is they Christian school they system is a Siemens too but with Wheelock E70 Speaker Strobes. They system used to be a simplex but got replace with they Siemens system in 2006. So they Wheelock E70 they were used for old Simplex system too. I am guesting they old simplex system was of 4100 from the mid or late 90's. Now i don't know what the church part what voice evc it plays. But i only the school part they system does a code 3 tone and a famale voice. Saying May i have your attention may i have your attention they been a fire emergency reported in the building please evc the buliding by the nernst exit do not use the evevator.
Steven Lebbing I would say the Simplex system was originally installed somewhere in the later 1990's, if the E70's there had the horizontal strobes (like the one I show in the video). Otherwise, the 1990's is somewhere in the ballpark. I wouldn't be too surprised if the E50's were a part of a new installation in the church itself; for any new Siemens install/expansion, they currently use some sort of Wheelock device (either an E50, E70, or any other Wheelock speaker for voice evac). Are the church and the school part of the same building or at least connected to each other? If so, they may be using a central panel to drive all the alarms in the building, so the evac message in the church may be the same as the school.
A Truealert ES is the fancy version of this LOL!
Found them along with Wheelock E70s in rooms and Wheelock LSM Strobes in bathrooms with DMP Pulls on a Siemens Voice Evac System at the 11-story Westin Tailsland Valley Midtown in Tailsland Valley, VA. For 4 Days and 3 Nights only for $488 plus expenses, rental car and Round-trip Air Fare on American Eagle from Seattle, Washington to Tailsland Valley, Virginia. Our Room Number is 511. Trip Date: Friday to Monday (9/7 to 9/10, prior to Hurricane Kelly)
These were just installed at the high school where I graduated two years ago. I wish they had been there when I was, anticipating fire drills and loud horns was extremely anxiety-inducing.
The school, which has four separate buildings, just renovated two of them. As a building science nerd, I figured they would install voice-evac in one of the buildings since it has a large gymnasium, but I found out at their public open house that they installed Wheelock speaker/strobes not only there, but in the other building, a small classroom building, as well. I don't know what the message is, but I saw a Siemens panel if that gives any indication.
Side note: In my opinion, the Fire-Lite message is ridiculously verbose and the Simplex message is way too slow. I prefer EST messages which are more concise. However, it astounds me that they never say about the nearest exit, "This may not be the same way you came in." Our silly brains automatically think that the "nearest exit" is the way we came in and people need to be told specifically that it probably is not.
Not a fan of est. some of the custom Simplex messages I really like (not the default). The Siemens and Wheelock messages I really like.
Love the look of these.
While the E70 series may have a somewhat flush appearance, somewhat more classy; these do have a somewhat modern appeal, more box-like. Not sure why, but it seems more modern looking.
Oddly enough, what I didn't bother to mention was that this is close to the 7001 series, with the strobe on top, audible on the bottom, etc. In fact, it's close to the size of the 7001 series!
They have Wheelock E50s at Leisure Towers. Nice video!
A store at the local mall by me has E50's installed and actually play MUSIC through them. Never seen nor heard of that until I walked in there one day to look for sport items.
There's more and more fire alarm and intercom system (I am assuming that's where the music is coming from) integrated installs that are appearing. Walmart I know, has a few installs like this.
Fire alarm voice evac systems are starting to become more and more popular due to the wide capability of notification options (Fire, and other Emergency notification) into one large PA-like system. I'm assuming there is a desire to implement your typical intercom system with the fire alarm system into one large system. Therefore, you have the best of both worlds; PA when you need to page someone/general ambiance in the store, and emergency notification (Fire, Weather, Intruder, etc) when you need it.
The setup I saw was a simplex 4100ES with tbars, these, and truealarm smokes.
Interesting that you found a Simplex setup with these as the Speaker/Strobes. Glad I mentioned it in the video!
That's a really slim and neat design. I actually have one of these coming in the mail soon. Ill probably make an unboxing video once it arrives.
+FireAlarm42 I do like the design of these, particularly because of how close it is to the AS. The snap-on cover design makes life a little easier as opposed to the E-70 (screws that hold on cover-plate can get lost, luckily, haven't lost any yet).
AlarmSystemTech I just don't like how there is no longer a remote strobe that looks right with this.
Hello, did you know what website you got the message from? I like it a lot and I want to know where you got it from, thank you.
The voice sounds likes it’s on a aircraft sound is the background
How do you get the sound to the speaker? I've made a headphone to speaker cable and it's too quiet. If you use an amplifier, what amplifier do you use?
I use a Pyle home PC20MA amp. It provides a 70V, 25V and 8-ohm output. Hooking the device up to a headphone output WILL NOT WORK.
Ok. Thanks.
I shall make a speaker strobe for the purpose of people's enjoyment of and playing things like "Can't Forget You (ft. The Nicholas)" on an alarm via a 3.5mm jack... I think I can cannibalize an RSS and an old speaker...
The reason the ET70 goes up to 8 watts is because it’s a high wattage type of speaker. The E70 only goes up to 2 watts but the ET70 goes up to 8. The E50 goes to 2 and the ET50 goes to 8. I guess that’s just how Wheelock does it.
The E50 had a good run
Can you record this and upload in 60FPS(unless if it is already and it not showing on mobile youtube)?
This video is still the standard 30fps; I am unable to record at 60fps at this time. I don't see the need to record in a high frame rate yet, I still think it looks fine at the standard 30fps.
Well, I want to see if you can see the strobe fine in 60FPS and not see a huge flash across the screen.
***** Actually, you do have a valid point there, you may be able to see the light flash as opposed to the huge flash across the screen. Now I did say I personally don't have the equipment record in 60fps at this time, nor do I feel like investing in it just yet. However, I changed mind; I might be able to borrow a 60fps capable camera to try this out. Thanks for the suggestion!
***** Done! Uploaded the video yesterday. You're able to see the strobe a lot better. I found as long as the strobe a low candela strobe, you would be able to see the strobe.
At UTSA they have these on a huge Siemens system with these and MSI-20B pulls.
Nice Video!!
Thank you! Glad to see you enjoyed this video!
I keep seeing these in the mall I go to.
Wow the wheelock e50 at the great wolf lodge in california.
Those are in the movie theater that I go to
Today is February 21 2019 the anniversary of the Wheelock e50
I see a lot of those alarms people lissen more to a boxe system then the horns
does it have speakers it was in amc theters
+ivette lemus This particular device does have a speaker. If these were installed there, more than likely, it's a voice evacuation setup, much more pleasant than typical horn/strobes.
Is it just me or do only most hospitals use Wheelock or simplex?
+I am now ded Yeah, I've noticed this, too. I'm guessing that that these brands are the most recognized/trusted for large systems, such as a hospital. That would be my guess.
+NewEnglandElevators Yeah, I have noticed that most emergency doctors offices and hospitals have speaker strobes. especially Wheelock. I don't know why, but i guess that is just the way it went out. :)
I went to a hospital with an Edwards/EST system.
AdamP511 Gaming yeah, I can see that. Most hospitals have that kind of alarm.
My local hospital has a gentex system. I don't know the panel though.
Now that the ZRS is discontinued, there is no strobe that looks proper with the E50s. The RSSes fit with the NS, AS, and E70 alarms, but not the E50.
Since this is basically an speaker strobe as. I Think the RSS works with the e50 and e60
@@SomeDudeWithAnExitSign The design
That's what I'm talking about and plus Siemens has this type of speaker strobe and the z series also
somedude withanexitsign Ok I re read
I think it’s a speaker strobe Z series, not AS, that’s why I made my comment
@@ironmatic1 I see
I have this alarm!!! Just don't know yet how to wire the speaker though :/
This is a nice alarm, I have enjoyed it so far. It's easy to wire the speaker, all you have to do wire the speaker from the audio source, preferably a 25v or 70v amplifier. Usually, these have some sort of Auxilary line input where you can plug in an audio source. Basically, you can plug in some sort of MP3 player (a cheap one or an iPod) or a Computer to feed audio into the amp, which outputs to the speaker.
Other than making sure you have a sufficient audio source, it's easy to wire up, almost like wiring up a horn or strobe. The only thing I would say you would have to look out for is setting the speaker up correctly, making sure you have the proper voltage setting selected. It's probably not a good idea to send 70v into a speaker that is set up to accept 25v.
Were you one of those people on the East coast that lost power?
Oddly enough, no, I haven't lost power. Most of the snowstorms I have experienced, I haven't lost power, not even for any "NorEaster" or Blizzard. The only exception to that statement was a snowstorm in October 2011. Back then, I lost it for almost an entire week.
Well, I guess your lucky! Here in Northwestern Oregon (where I live) we lose power about twice a month for 12+ hours each. It feaking sucks!!!
You would think we would lose it a lot up here with some of the wild weather we have (snow, thunderstorms, etc). Somehow, it's every once in a great while there is an outage of some sort, usually never weather related. Most of the time, the power is restored within 4 - 7 hours.
Like I said, I guess your just really lucky! I bet your the only one on the Eat coast that actually has power! And your over there with 5+ feet of snow, here in Oregon we have blue skies, sunshine, trees/flowers blooming, 70 degree temps. lol!
Lol, the ET70 goes to 8 watts but the E70 goes to 2. Both are still made though.
Never realized there was a difference, thanks!
My church is loaded with 30 of these. It has a rare Voice evac I think from Mircom, because the panel is a Mircom
Mircom voice evac...never heard of it. I wonder what the message you're talking about consists of. That would be interesting to hear.
Well, no one on RUclips has a recording so it is rare.
It sounds like a car horn, really
Does it happen to be a Simplex 4003EC? Can you put down what it says?
+Rodj I actually have a video of where you can here them going off.
This alarm I seen in Sprit Mountain Casino
Spirit Mountain Casino has a mixed system. they have a simplex system and a notifier. There are simplex 4904 strobes,spectalerts (both classics and advances) and zrs,this alarm and e60.
These came in 2004 believe it or not
For some reason, I would have originally guessed 2006-2008, didn't think they came out that early. Then again, the first time I saw one of these in person was about 2009 or so, so it makes sense why I thought these came out much later. Thanks for pointing this out!
@@NewEnglandElevators you’re welcome. I used wayback machine to find that out.
These are in the new twin towers
Boots__ :D There is only one main tower.
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Boots__ :D the old one had the et70
its a zns speaker strobe
Yeah, we only have these in the gym..
The Truealert Es speaker strobes look like the Wheelock e50.
I've seen pictures of those. Quite close in design, I must say.
RSS Alarms v
RSS Alarms Very good alternative to those who want to mimic a modern day Simplex System in both looks and sounds without going addressable.
These alarms are at my school
MR. PENGUIN GAMER: They're in mine too! They are one of the loudest on the market so it makes sense they'd install them in a school
Looks like a wheelock as-24
I've seen bg12s with wheelock e50s
I figured my pull station setup towards the end of the video was close to the said setup. Definitely seems likely you would see a setup like this; these are usually installed on some sort of Fire-Lite or Notifier system. Guess what those systems have for the pull stations, the BG-12 series!
I have that divice
My church has those alarms and they system is a Siemens. Also the school part watch is they Christian school they system is a Siemens too but with Wheelock E70 Speaker Strobes. They system used to be a simplex but got replace with they Siemens system in 2006. So they Wheelock E70 they were used for old Simplex system too. I am guesting they old simplex system was of 4100 from the mid or late 90's. Now i don't know what the church part what voice evc it plays. But i only the school part they system does a code 3 tone and a famale voice. Saying May i have your attention may i have your attention they been a fire emergency reported in the building please evc the buliding by the nernst exit do not use the evevator.
Steven Lebbing I would say the Simplex system was originally installed somewhere in the later 1990's, if the E70's there had the horizontal strobes (like the one I show in the video). Otherwise, the 1990's is somewhere in the ballpark.
I wouldn't be too surprised if the E50's were a part of a new installation in the church itself; for any new Siemens install/expansion, they currently use some sort of Wheelock device (either an E50, E70, or any other Wheelock speaker for voice evac). Are the church and the school part of the same building or at least connected to each other? If so, they may be using a central panel to drive all the alarms in the building, so the evac message in the church may be the same as the school.
simplex as edwards as wheelock as
+leviarrion felix (Teh Neon 10 - LF5) wat
HappyJigg haha you knew that's weird?
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