Ace is right. No reason why activision couldn’t have just made this an official release and gained some good favor with the community. Instead they just pissed off all the old fans more.
@@shierfuzzball6956 that, and it would take away from BO6 release... they dont care about the old fans anymore because the old fans are the LEAST likely to buy skins and all that stupid shit that makes them the most money...
alot of us old fans are already burned too. this time i decided to hold off on buying MWR, ive already gotten screwed on IW4X, SM2, etc. im not the least bit surprised this one got the axe too. call of duty is so dead to me and Activision seems hell bent on making sure it stays that way
Steam is issuing refunds for people with more than 2 hours all you need to do is specify that you bought it with the intention of using the mod. I never bought it but I saw a community post with multiple comments saying they got a refund with it
@@Patches2012-and why boomers and GenX have failed to adapt to a tech focused world and left the countries of the world in shambles. Thanks Dad and Grandpa.
This mod has leaked online and you can play without a legit copy of the game! I recommended grabbing a refund if possible for you and enjoying this shit for free! FUCK ACTIVISION!
“We can’t have people playing an actual fun game with no SBMM with a big player base!!! That would make our “studies” look biased and fabricated!!” Some stooge at Activision.
@@TheGetreal4live yeah but barely. People didn’t even know it existed at the time. It was so minimal. People wouldn’t have their channels predicated on moab gameplays like Nero or others at the time if SBMM existed that is parallel to what has existed since advanced warfare. Also the matchmaking times were and still are instant which is indicative of that.
@@oneboredfool9578 it’s an analogy my friend, plus are shotgun trigger hard to pull? A shot gun is big and a toddler is small, it’s like trying to get a miracle to happen
It’s almost 2025. There’s no reason we can’t have access to older classic COD titles that are safe, cheap and reliable for all the millions of fans of COD who grew up with these games.
@@HairyCaveMan 2019 was great, new ones are shit and classic ones are boring as fuck in my opinion ( to clarify for the next retard who doesnt know what an opinion is)
That's bullshit. so many cod zombies mods and straight up other video game mods import their weapons from multiple cod titles and they still get to exist. They just DO NOT want us to have this.
You are just right, aren't you? they dont care for the community neither their own product. They wouldn't make less money with the existence of the mod, actually, for now they will only loss. Just look at other games that have a free modding policy. I think you are right, i think they are only doing this bacause they can. To show power, you know.
Activision don't want us to play a different CoD when Black ops is right around the corner. It's a scummy and disgusting move, but I understand why they're doing it. I'm just glad I'm planning on playing via game pass and not paying a dime directly towards them, as I haven't been for years now, even with the previous games.
Zombies maps and mods are based on steam workshop and done with official tools. There’s less grounds there as they’ve basically provided the tools for people to do such things, they had more grounds here since very little if any of this was done with official tools
For Activision, this is such easy side money as you’ll get thousands of people buying MWR to play the mod. But if there is something that gets in the way of the newest/current CoD in the smallest way, they going to cease and desist and sue mfers into oblivion.
@domenico-_-602 they already are pirating it. They have so many servers hosting the torrent of it and with the leaked h2m code many people are playing h2m for free right now. Their greed cost them money and community standing (it was already in the trash)
I don't get it, are they money hungry and greedy or are they not? So on one hand they're letting money slip by not allowing this and on the other they're only focused on money? this community can't get their arguments logically consistent lmao
They can't monetize this game with microtransactions like they do with newer titles. Even if this game sold really well, it's still just a one-time purchase. In contrast, with a new COD title, they can make money not just from the initial purchase, but also from the Battle Pass, skins, and other microtransactions. They end up making way more money per player through monetization. And even if some players don't spend anything on microtransactions or the Battle Pass, there's always someone who will drop $50 on a new bundle or collab they like, which balances out the players who spend nothing.
While Activision is well within their rights to shut this down, this just seems insanely evil from Activision, they've created a PR crisis for themselves.
Not really. Most COD players don't know or care about this mod. This only affects a very small subset of the community. The large majority of players are on console, and even among the subset that are on PC only a subset of those PC players are mod players. If I was being generous, I'd say
Welcome to capitalism buddy. It sounds evil and wrong but if you stand solely on morals you’ll never get anywhere, not to say you can’t have morals or a moral compass, but in a world like ours you won’t get far if they’re the only thing you got. CAPITALISM BABY 💪.
Can't stop a JB PS4 user from playing it, its offline, only thing you can do is take down the source file, but once a single person gets, spreads like wild fire.
Definitely more than that... But I get what you mean. I've been one of those stay ons who kept coming back to and regularly play it off and on for years.
@@scottjs5207maybe he more specifically meant at the same time? that would mean that something like many thousands play it in a month, even more in a year
fucking pathetic. dont just give up, fight them on this shit. you vote with your wallet so dont buy it, dont play it, dont even talk about it. dont give this scum sucking company another cent for the rest of their days. dont just roll over and take it, jesus christ
An official MW2 MP remaster did actually exist, they just decided to vault it and only release the campaign. There are text string references to a real h2mp executable and using h2mod for MW2CR, you can see it by using a command to attempt to load multiplayer, in an error message. MW2 MP Remastered already exists, to some level of completion, they just aren’t and probably never will announce or release it. When the community wants it, they ignored them, when the community makes it, suddenly they take interest and want to strike the mod down. Why? At least the mod is out there thanks to the early access players still having the files, but it’ll forever be unfinished. They were actually going to revamp the lighting to look much better and closer to the original game. And people will preorder BO6, without even having played the game, specifically to get access to the beta (demo) for a game that likely won’t be that good. I doubt tanking their sales will make them take back this move, they have more money than they know what to do with, but maybe people thinking about buying BO6 should reconsider.
Glad you refunded it, but if there's any way you can retain the mod files, *do it.* Activision needs to learn they can't control everything, even if they strive to be the fun police.
In other words, you are saying that you can go in someone else's house, rearranging the furniture, add some decor, and tell them that they have to learn that they can't control everything. Pretty idiotic if you ask me.
The most plausible reason that the mod was shut down is that activision hates us and would rather us buy the yearly slop they dish out, rather than this
There are no friends in business. Make no mistake, Activision is after the money, as they should be. Otherwise, they have no reason to exist. If you have a problem with their business practices, or don't like their product, all you have to do is to stop purchasing their product. Otherwise, you are an idiot.
yall aren't consistent, so apparently they want us to buy yearly slop that never changes, but yall also want to play a re-released game that's a decade old because you want the old cod? make sense of it for me
@theweekndxo7438 it's just nostalgia. We are longing for moments that can never truly be recreated, Kids nowadays will feel the same way about black ops 6 in ten years. But regardless, I don't have a pc so it doesn't matter
@theweekndxo7438 don't know think that's necessarily true, alot of money has been made from remasters and reviving dead franchises. You may think nostalgia is dumb, but it does get to a lot of people, if not most.
@@nuggetz4037 How's that Activision boot taste? You're hilariously sad. Here's why: 1. The H2M team did nothing wrong at all. They released the mod FOR FREE, and made it where you HAVE TO PURCHASE MWR for the mod to work. They were literally printing money for Activision and not asking for any compensation at all. How are they part of the problem? 2. How are we, the consumers, part of the problem as well? We just want to experience the glory days of old CoD games again, from back when we were teenagers/early 20s and the CoD games were actually fun, competitive for every play style, and when the devs didn't ask you to spend extra money for dumb stuff that you don't need. Why/how is that a problem?
They don't care if everyone hates them because y'all will buy the new game every year no questions asked. Quit giving the bully your lunch money and maybe something could change but you won't, it's like COD fans only see this franchise as the only fps game and need to buy it every damn year. News flash, there are far better games/companies out there doing it the right way, its okay to branch out and not support companies that don't care.
Exactly. I just wish more people, and even more so RUclipsrs, would actually stop supporting these practices. A lot of people are at fault here as well, not just Activision.
PSA; It is leaked, it works, Zelta has it pinned on his twitch, theyve just got server browser working and they are all constantly full. Activision was too slow.
A wise man named Woolie Madden once had great advice for mod makers, ROM hackers, and other creators of fan projects that bears repeating: SHUT THE F**K UP. DO NOT talk about your project until it is DONE AND RELEASED. Companies are actively looking for projects like these to shut down before they get off the ground
No. That would have made this so much more easier to brush under the rug. They knew there was a good chance that Activision was going to send to cease and desist letter so they made it public and let Activision dig their own grave. If they would have just released it without saying anything, then it could have got shut down and it would have been a blip in the news feeds. Also calm down. It's their mod and they can advertise it however they want. This does way more damage to Activision and would have had the same result either way.
I used to think that SM2 got shut down for distributing pirated assets and not because it would get in the way of a new Call of Duty release. I guess this shutdown of H2M proves otherwise. Lesson learned.
I mean, H2M was pirating assets too. You basically get to play MW2 for free by downloading the mod. Not saying you shouldn’t download the leaked files to the mod, though
@@Rat_King1001 No other way to play MW2 though. You can't buy MW2 anywhere, the steam version is barely functional. If they had a version of MW2 available for people to play, they wouldn't need to play a mod or download a leaked client. They just want to play the game with an active community behind it.
I was really hoping h2m would succeed, but knowing how activision operates, I held off on buying MW:R. I feel like they were scared it would hamper their numbers for mw3 season 6 and black ops 6 and none of these users would invest in a battle pass or cosmetics.
You are aware shutting down cheat devs is far more difficult right? They often operate in different counties, far more subtly, and are far harder to pin down. For cheat devs, it may be more can’t than won’t.
At this point if Activision ever does an official remake of MW2 multiplayer it should be boycotted. They dont deserve any more money from the IP after how they've treated its community.
This is honestly the final straw for me. From the constant lawsuits and sexual assault violations in the workplace that ended with someone committing superslide, to now waiting before the day of release on this mod to cash in as much as possible with sales, with no intention of ever letting this mod see the light of day, the higher ups seem like the most vile disgusting people on the planet. I canceled my bo6 preorder, which is unfortunate bc the game is looking great, and i know the devs that actually made it are generally good people so I hate that they're collateral damage. Ik bo6 will still do well and ill probably end up checking it out on gamepass at some point, but for now they aren't getting my $70. I know im just one person and the the act of me cancelling alone won't change anything, but i would encourage any others on the fence to do so aswell. Whether it be bc youre tired of the althorithms in the game (sbmm) or bc the higher ups are disgusting people. Ive held onto hope for far too long that this franchise would return to its glory days at some point, but with the sbmm tests they've run at this point, it's clear that activision doesn't care if you enjoy the game or not, and only want retention or money. We are literal lab rats. Sorry for the rant im just so sick of this company
@@meeeeooooww Agreed. But cod was like a drug for me. Always had the itch to play, rarely got any highs from it, and the lows with it far outweighed the highs. It's hard to throw away those rose tinted glasses bc mw2 (2009) - bo2 were by far my favorite years in gaming
I can confirm I also saw it at the top of my 'top selling' list in Steam. Also saw they had the game on sale the entire time with the sale ending the day before the mod release. No more money to Activision
Man…how many times do we need to learn this lesson? JUST BECAUSE YOU’RE NOT MAKING MONEY OFF IT DOESN’T MEAN IT’S NOT INFRINGEMENT. As you said, if a copyright holder doesn’t defend its copyright in notable cases of infringement, the holder can lose it. And the hype that was built for this mod made it a notable case. The nail stuck up too far and got hammered down. And the potential dollars they could have made off sales of MWR wouldn’t be anywhere NEAR enough to make ActiBlizz consider risking copyright abandonment.
A story old as time: cod multiplayer mods gets released as a test for content creators, they all make videos at the same time, mod gets DMCA'd contnet creators all wonder why, creators bash call of duty talk about boycotting the game, few months later content creator plays the new cod + even buys skins + battlepass. Im sorrh but i gotta side with Activision at this point
They can't monetize this game with microtransactions like they do with newer titles. Even if this game sold really well, it's still just a one-time purchase. In contrast, with a new COD title, they can make money not just from the initial purchase, but also from the Battle Pass, skins, and other microtransactions. They end up making way more money per player through monetization. And even if some players don't spend anything on microtransactions or the Battle Pass, there's always someone who will drop $50 on a new bundle or collab they like, which balances out the players who spend nothing. The only option I could think of to make everyone happy is make a "Classic Cod" Mode like Warzone but with no skins or fancy camos, kinda like "The Master Chief Collection" but attached like Warzone.
I know Activision hates fun, but this is a new low even for them. This mod was different from the other ones, in that you literally HAD TO BUY MWR to be able to even use H2M, but they still said no. It was literally printing money for Activision without them lifting a damn finger, and they killed it. I'm salty AF about it, but I knew in the back of my mind that it was bound to happen. I just didn't expect it to happen this soon. The thing wasn't even out to the public yet! So freaking dumb. Something needs to happen at Activision to purge the dumb, out-of-touch corporate leadership that they have going on. Activision needs to be restarted with people that actually give a crap about the CoD community and not just money-hungry imbeciles that hate the average gamer.
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Activision just further proves every day that they’re the worst gaming company (arguably one of the worst companies) on the planet even more so than EA, Tencent, and others combined. The fact they were literally gaining money from this and still cancelled it because they’re too scared of a simple mod done by a few people over their 4 years in the making game with thousands of developers. Activision should be ashamed to call themselves a company.
Had a feeling when I saw you and other big yters make videos on it that it wasn't goin to last. The previous mods for other titles with cod last way longer when people don't make videos on them, drawing attention to them
2:01 that is far from the reason. If custom assets or assets from other cod games in cod mods were a problem all those thousands of waw and bo3 custom zombie maps and mods that use assets from other cod games would be in trouble too. So no. That's far from the reason.
@@NITROexpress17 it was never an issue before. I've seen tons of maps using later cod maps and never have issue even DLC maps. So no that is never a problem. Now if it is a DLC map of a just released new CoD game then yes of course that is going to cause trouble. But if it's older games there is no reason.
I don't think the assets from other games argument is relevant. Because then why are they not shutting down the Bo3 custom zombies mods and maps that use assets from games like Vanguard, Cold war, BO4, IW, MW2019,etc? They didn't buy Vanguard yet they can use assets from Vanguard for example in their zombies maps. That doesn't make sense. It has to be so they can squeeze more money from us. Altough apperantly it's because they were scared of the impact it will have on BO6. LOL
Doesn’t matter, genie is outta the bottle, refunded the game and torrented it instead, playing h2m rn with the leaked files. All Activision did was cost themselves money 😂
Fortunately, the community still has access to the leaked mod files, so there’s 63 servers up and running right now with 1001 concurrent players playing h2m right now.
Activision just doesn't want the community to have nice things. So I don't want Activision to have nice things anymore. Left a 1 star review on all cods in the xbox store, and unsubscribed to everything Activision/COD related. As long as COD has this online community, it will seem cool, boosting sales. Can't have that, won't be a part of it anymore. F*** Activision.
Like it was a shitty thing for activision to do, but using assets from MW2R campaign was never not going to cause copyright issues, especially since people didn’t have to own that game to play the mod. From activison’s point of view this isn’t any better than people using pirated copies
That just goes to show that Microsoft doesn't care either, and that the U.S. intellectual property and patent policies are egregious and favor corporations. I disagree that Activision had a legal reason to do this. I even doubt it's in their Terms of Use. If that were the case, BO1 and 2 mods would get shut down.
Can COD get sued? Like from the view point of. Maybe they new months ahead about the mod possibly releasing so they started a sale on MW2R? Knowing they would farm free money.
Thank you for highlighting the use of assets from other games. I know it's easy to just be grumpy about Activision shutting it down, but these kinds of mods aren't gray-area issues; they are blatant illegal distributions of copyrighted materials. There's zero chance they would have ever let this slide because they simply cannot allow that kind of precedent to be set for their IP. That's just basic business. The mod _maybe_ would have had a chance if it required legit copies of MWR/MW2/MW2R in order to legally access all of the necessary assets, but now we'll never know (they very easily could have shut it down anyway even if they didn't have legal justification, but at that point, what are you going to do? Fight Activision's legal team?) I completely agree that Acti is a shady, greedy, anti-fan corporation, but we as a community need to stop acting surprised/hurt when these things happen. A note to any aspiring modders out there: You _have to_ play by the rules in order for there to be any chance at all of these things launching and surviving in the wild, _especially_ when dealing with notoriously stingy publishers like Activision and Nintendo. This has happened a million times across the industry, and it's always heartbreaking to see all that hard work and passion go down the drain at the last second.
@@smagliaro if you want to look at it narrowly. Regardless, you still have to purchase an activision published game to use the mod. There’s no reason for activision to not release MW2R except for their laziness. Heck, they could have “bought” the mod from these guys if they wanted. By “bought”‘I mean seized by the way. There was no reason to kill it other than a complete lack of awareness for what their fans want
@@elnumbrotres That isn't "narrow". It's crystal clear copyright violation. To be clear, I'm not defending Activision's "honor" or whatever here. I'm just saying that if modders want these kind of high-risk mods to survive, they have to, _at the very least,_ avoid those kinds of obvious pitfalls that give publishers 100% justifiable grounds to take legal action. From a fan standpoint, it's clear that greed is the real reason. They want to keep MW2R multiplayer in their back pocket as a freebie hot-seller if/when they have a big flop and miss revenue targets. They absolutely know there is demand, and it has already been quasi-confirmed that the entire MP was remastered as part of MW2R but never released. It's a business strategy, not laziness.
This is all the evidence we need that Activision will NOT release a MW2, BO 1 & 2 remaster. No matter what. Activision waiting until the last day AND until the sales to end for MWR on PC. Now we as a community need to stop buying bundles, stop buying games and do not buy BO6. I was REALLY excited for this. I really was. Get your refunds people. Thats what I did.
i'm completely done with cod.. insanely strict sbmm in non ranked matches, mwIII (2023) being a glorified dlc of mwII(2022 which was a piece of...) shutting down development of sm 2, now this. this franchise has been burned to the ground...
Personally, I don't really want or care about old COD remasters or mods. I've been a pretty devote COD player since WaW playing hundreds of hours each year but most of the older CODs aren't that good anymore. The only thing I want from the old games is the maps, and they did a good job of that this year. Instead of wasting resources on remasters, I'd prefer if they just put that time and money into more maps, new and old.
They may have shut it down officially but the mod has leaked and theres already 1400+ players on the servers on the leaked mod most of the servers are full currently it just means that the mods official server is shut down but it doesnt stop us once we have the files can always make servers for it they cant stop it now and the downloads they can try to copyright but they can't shut down torrents
api.raidmax on there it has h2m server list there's currently 1500+ players and Activision looses out more on this because it doesn't require u to own the game like the official h2m server would have had a ownership check but now with that offline the game works with pirate copy of MWR
@@xeno703 I hate corporations but I’m not dumb enough to expect different from them like you people. Not everyone who disagrees with you is on the other side dumb dumb. Learn nuance
Yes, I would pay for gamepass if MW2 remastered was a gamepass exclusive! I would even pay $200+ for an official MW2 Remastered if it had no microtransactions lol. WE JUST WANT TO HAVE FUN
They’re probably still holding M2R Multiplayer in their back pocket for a rainy day and this would hurt those sales. Or they could possibly just be that petty.
Activision is getting dumber and dumber and I twitted this towards activision directly, even for them its really dumb to throw this amount of money away
I'm 32 I played cod since the day it came out , I've slowly played less and less , and now I don't want anything to do with it. They lost me way before this little controversy
I've seen a tweet claiming that from leaked internal discussions at Activision (so take this with a grain of salt), the reason they C&D'd H2M was because they're worried that it would impact sales of BO 6, and I could 100% see that. And I've also heard the reason for no multiplayer remasters is because, even though they had multiplayer for MW2R ready, Warzone blew up, so they canned it.
I could definitely feel it though. Tbh they should’ve just released it without any promo so we could at least have the version as intended but they had to do the whole hype campaign, anyone with eyes and ears could see it so ofc Activision legal pounced on it at the most opportune time.
Ace we need you or any content creator to just put the setup files out there. Hop on a vpn, look up how to make a .torrent file, the community will take care of the rest.
The argument of "they have to protect their copyright or risk losing it" is bullshit and simply not true. Publishers like Bethesda, CDPR, Capcom, etc would be screwed if that was the case. Look at Fallout 4 as the best, most recent example. A MASSIVE mod called Fallout London ust released for the game, you have to own a version of Fallout 4 to play it, but it's entirely a new game, similar to needing MWR to play this H2M mod. Bethesda is risking losing their copyright portections by allowing Fallout London to exist, and in fact it only benefits Bethesda because they are making bank off a 10 year old game while doing absolutely nothing.
Enderal and its previous instalments is probably a better example. It's a standalone game which you can pick up free if you own Skyrim on steam (I mean Enderal is literally on Steam). It's basically its own game series built off of Creation Engine, much like DayZ became with ArmA 2/3.
@@prozoomy Facts. BO3 is cool, but I really prefer not having boost jumping. It's probably better on mouse and keyboard. I was on console at that time. Even COD ghost was more fun than some of the new COD games we have now.
Cold War was the last game I bought and it was aight, only bought it for the zombies with the campaign being pretty decent. Just amazing how shitty the market for Triple A games has become and gaming in general.
The most plausible reason is that it was taking away hype from blops 6. It was a game that many people were going to buy. But most importantly, they kniw it is far more fun then anything they have released in 5 years combined. They did this to be assholes Ace. Thats the most plausible reason. I dont trust them to release this themselves. They will fuk with the matchmaking. They will add in mtx. They will manipulate the shit out of the experience as much as possible just like they do with their current, modern, "cod 2.0" titles. After this, im done with this company. Its clear they just dont want me or people like me as customers. They know i dont buy bundles. They know i dont buy the battlepass. They know i have only even seen the shop by accidental button presses. This was the only way they were going to get a dollar out of players like me, and instead of just taking the free money for no work, they told me and everyone like me to go F myself
As if old players would be any interested in the new installment. The target demographic for H2 were the OG players, such players would not have any interest in BO6 had H2 been cancelled or was it still here. They simply have no interest in that cash-grab. To say that H2 would have a negative influence on BO6 is rather laughable considering its targeted audience would not come near it either way.
@@mazin_iq1499 I did say it. Because it's true. They want everyone to play the newest title filled with all the background fuckery and mtx. Allowing anyone, let alone thousands of players go back to what is widely considered the best release of the franchise, where there is no background fuckery, no mtx, would reflect very poorly in the modern product. It would expose it for what it is. A manipulation tactic, disguised as a game built to funnel as many people as possible to the shop and mtx. It's quite literally the only thing they give a shit about
The point you raise about the spring time hype dying off has me very suspicious about the rumours regarding a return of verdansk or another new big map for warzone and the timing it's supposedly set to release
>make multiplayer mod of MWR >use MW2R assets that don't require owning it >advertise it everywhere and even invite youtubers to play >news sources blast it everywhere >activision sends a DMCA after seeing all the ruckus >surprised pikachu face What did they expect? Other mods are still alive.
@@SoulbentAnime that would've been worst. That would give them grounds to sue like what Nintendo did to that other company. Sadly it always always gonna come down to a C&D cause use of other assets
@jeremybrown9611 nah, they would've just been cease and desisted. Eldewrito got c&d when it had been released for a little while. Both are owned by Microsoft. Eldewrito got us Halo on PC. Hopefully this gets us the official mw2 remastered multiplayer that they already made a long time ago
even if activision were open to modding this mod would have been taken down, the fact it didnt require any purchase of mw2 assets alone makes the outrage about this situation complete nonsense, modders need to stop being stupid and just make a community server browser for the og mw2, don't remaster anything and just make it so we can play the original without being hacked it's literally that simple
I would literally do anything to have this mod pack I got back on my pc and play the original MW2 because I’m still so in love with it. It feels icky they waited till the last day to pull the rug and it shows what kind of company they are.. it feels like a gut punch how they treated the modders and the community.
To your point about them using assets from CODs other than MWR, why is BO3 custom zombies maps able to get away with using assets from all sorts of games? There’s maps with guns and enemies from IW, BO4, Cold War, etc.
This was not smart in a businesses perspective They continue to make bo6 Make money from that People play h2m They make money off that They can make so much profit with half the effort They literally benefit the most out of the h2m release
You said it right there. Whats really insulting to Activision's end is as of right now, as a Halo fan first and foremost... our MCC is effectively dead. I also doubt anything remastered or remixed would come from BF either. No more support. It's botted/hacked to trash. It's so close to being considered shovelware save for offline campaign depending on how bad the hacks get. Activision can definitely hop in and say "you know what... heres the entire Black Ops storyline, remastered, ready to rock in one package with all the zombies goodness you want". Considering their track record for microtransactions, it wouldnt be as egregious to how Microsoft/343 recived flak for their implementation for MCC either. Gladly would hop on that fast.
Not to mention that on top of all the stuff the mod had from the original mw2 it also fixed the one man army exploit that allowed you to infinitely resupply grenade launcher ammo, countless hours of work just gone, man i feel bad for the devs
seems like everyone is forgetting that activision has MW2R on deck, they just chose not to release this. I think it has something to do with the fact they'd lose sales on MW2R if they were to release it at some point with this being out
I love this game more than any other multiplayer game, the memories on MW2 were something else… but after all the stuff Activision have pulled with cod, it breaks my heart to say I’d never give them my money for this remastered now.
The sale on the core game ended the day before and the cease and desist was sent so would arrive just before release of mod. They are so aggravating. If you buy skins currently at top list you get easier matches it’s proven. Abandon ship is the only answer. Which makes me depressed.
I really can't see Activision doing an official release of MW2R, given MWIII this year already has all the old maps on it. If it was in the works, they wouldn't have used all the maps this year. In terms of reasons why they shut the mod down, it could be as simple as it's their intellectual property - regardless of whether the devs are making money off of it. You don't lose copyright for not actively defending it, but you will lose your trademark ie. the Call of Duty name and the property within it.
What I've seen with modern COD games is that bringing back old maps isn't as nostalgic as it should be, because of those downy mantling/sliding mechanics. Players who didn't grow up on 2009 to 2012 CODs aren't getting the experience we got back then. I'd be fine paying for some remasters as long as they aren't graphically excessive (meaning they'd require me to buy a new PC which is a no-go).
Your point about remasters is what I've brought up on other videos about this that I haven't heard from other creators in fact a lot of your points are very logical and so far you have the best video on this topic I'd love to play WAW mw2 blops1 mw3 again remastered with safe no cheater lobbies as an avid mmorpg fan osrs and wow have solved a massive copyright issue by releasing nostalgia content to fill the drought periods of new mainline content it's really the future for a lot of these decades old franchises and idk how Activision can run wow+wow classic+seasonal wow content and not try the same for old cod titles
You don't understand, some random manager somewhere said that the overlap between players who play the newest titles and the players who'd stick around for this longer than a week (hint: that overlap doesn't exist lmao activision), would be significant enough to draw players away from the game that sells AI generated skins that people spend $20 dollars for every other week. I don't even need to look at the data to know that their hypothesis is wrong, because I know their audience better than they do, *because I play with them*
I think a huge reason people were so into it tho was that it wasn’t been run by Activision, no sbmm or store bundles, I personally would not be so into it if it was an official remaster
Ace is right. No reason why activision couldn’t have just made this an official release and gained some good favor with the community. Instead they just pissed off all the old fans more.
they probably cancelled it because they wouldn't have been able to add sbmm, the battlepass, and store skins to the game
@@shierfuzzball6956 that, and it would take away from BO6 release... they dont care about the old fans anymore because the old fans are the LEAST likely to buy skins and all that stupid shit that makes them the most money...
alot of us old fans are already burned too. this time i decided to hold off on buying MWR, ive already gotten screwed on IW4X, SM2, etc. im not the least bit surprised this one got the axe too. call of duty is so dead to me and Activision seems hell bent on making sure it stays that way
The reason is MWR is old monetization system, some bonus sales for 7 year old game are nowhere near close to what they can earn through mtx and bo6
This is business buddy, you can’t steal someone’s intellectual property.
Steam is issuing refunds for people with more than 2 hours all you need to do is specify that you bought it with the intention of using the mod. I never bought it but I saw a community post with multiple comments saying they got a refund with it
steam can accept refunds with over the limit.
My refund was denied, it’s not true
I was also able to refund mw3 with over 100 hours played. I think steam cares about it's playerbase and knows activision sucks
I heard another way people getting refunds is by saying the game isn't running properly on their pc, in which they will usually give the refund
@@sambegley9966if ur persistent enough u can refund it
I hate Activision.
My inner child really wanted to relive this game.
Inner child well that explains why my generation is screwed up
@@Patches2012-and why boomers and GenX have failed to adapt to a tech focused world and left the countries of the world in shambles. Thanks Dad and Grandpa.
This mod has leaked online and you can play without a legit copy of the game! I recommended grabbing a refund if possible for you and enjoying this shit for free! FUCK ACTIVISION!
You are an elderly man, with a walking stick
You can still play and join the servers now look it up how to play
“We can’t have people playing an actual fun game with no SBMM with a big player base!!! That would make our “studies” look biased and fabricated!!” Some stooge at Activision.
Mw2 allready had sbmm
Actual fun and its the same as mwlll gameplay
Pure trickshots, one man army, meta loadouts.
Mw2 had sbmm but it was the era of " ping is King "
@@TheGetreal4live yeah but barely. People didn’t even know it existed at the time. It was so minimal. People wouldn’t have their channels predicated on moab gameplays like Nero or others at the time if SBMM existed that is parallel to what has existed since advanced warfare. Also the matchmaking times were and still are instant which is indicative of that.
@@TheGetreal4live there are custom servers bro, there's no sbmm this time around
Piracy is a moral obligation
I used to frown on piracy. Now I encourage it lol
America needs to change intellectual property and patent policies.
@@HaveButOneLifeno they don’t
@@Goose1995 you should always pirate Activision products.
@@meeeeoooowwYou cant pirate new activision products sadly they all need internet connection only cold war is crackes after years
Can't imagine how those mod devs feel rn
Playing with fire gets you burned
@@TheePepsiManMore like a raging toddler with a blind fold and shotgun but alrighty.
They were toying with a property that wasn’t theirs. They knew the risks.
@@oneboredfool9578 it’s an analogy my friend, plus are shotgun trigger hard to pull? A shot gun is big and a toddler is small, it’s like trying to get a miracle to happen
They should feel ashamed for trying to do what sm2 did with a less piracy intention
It’s almost 2025. There’s no reason we can’t have access to older classic COD titles that are safe, cheap and reliable for all the millions of fans of COD who grew up with these games.
Classic cods are boring
@@mrautismo420Nope. Current COD titles are bloated.
@@mrautismo420 You are trash
@@HairyCaveMan 2019 was great, new ones are shit and classic ones are boring as fuck in my opinion ( to clarify for the next retard who doesnt know what an opinion is)
@@mrautismo420the fuck you say to me
That's bullshit. so many cod zombies mods and straight up other video game mods import their weapons from multiple cod titles and they still get to exist.
They just DO NOT want us to have this.
Because Activision doesn't care about Zombies
It might bc of good MW2 was back then and it doesn't want it to happen again lol
You are just right, aren't you? they dont care for the community neither their own product. They wouldn't make less money with the existence of the mod, actually, for now they will only loss. Just look at other games that have a free modding policy. I think you are right, i think they are only doing this bacause they can. To show power, you know.
Activision don't want us to play a different CoD when Black ops is right around the corner. It's a scummy and disgusting move, but I understand why they're doing it. I'm just glad I'm planning on playing via game pass and not paying a dime directly towards them, as I haven't been for years now, even with the previous games.
Zombies maps and mods are based on steam workshop and done with official tools. There’s less grounds there as they’ve basically provided the tools for people to do such things, they had more grounds here since very little if any of this was done with official tools
For Activision, this is such easy side money as you’ll get thousands of people buying MWR to play the mod. But if there is something that gets in the way of the newest/current CoD in the smallest way, they going to cease and desist and sue mfers into oblivion.
Now people are just gonna refund the game and pirate it
@domenico-_-602 they already are pirating it. They have so many servers hosting the torrent of it and with the leaked h2m code many people are playing h2m for free right now. Their greed cost them money and community standing (it was already in the trash)
I don't get it, are they money hungry and greedy or are they not? So on one hand they're letting money slip by not allowing this and on the other they're only focused on money? this community can't get their arguments logically consistent lmao
They can't monetize this game with microtransactions like they do with newer titles. Even if this game sold really well, it's still just a one-time purchase. In contrast, with a new COD title, they can make money not just from the initial purchase, but also from the Battle Pass, skins, and other microtransactions. They end up making way more money per player through monetization. And even if some players don't spend anything on microtransactions or the Battle Pass, there's always someone who will drop $50 on a new bundle or collab they like, which balances out the players who spend nothing.
At least they can’t Seize & Decese Xdefiant :)
While Activision is well within their rights to shut this down, this just seems insanely evil from Activision, they've created a PR crisis for themselves.
Not really. Most COD players don't know or care about this mod. This only affects a very small subset of the community. The large majority of players are on console, and even among the subset that are on PC only a subset of those PC players are mod players. If I was being generous, I'd say
Welcome to capitalism buddy. It sounds evil and wrong but if you stand solely on morals you’ll never get anywhere, not to say you can’t have morals or a moral compass, but in a world like ours you won’t get far if they’re the only thing you got. CAPITALISM BABY 💪.
This game is still played
@@Real_Beaky people like you are why we can't have nice things
Bad as nintendo almost lol
people may or may not have leaked the files online 🤫
Keep that under wraps bruh damn
rat and malware everywhere tho
Send that link, big dawg
@@pastoolio9158Channel "Sage Here" seems to be a reliable source of the mod right now free of virus.
Ur asking to get a virus
*people playing BO6 on jailbroken PS4*
Activision: 😴
*12 hours before H2M mod*
Also Activision: 😡😤 !!!CEASE AND FUCKING DESIST!!!!
Can't stop a JB PS4 user from playing it, its offline, only thing you can do is take down the source file, but once a single person gets, spreads like wild fire.
It's because COD/acTivision specifically HATES PC players. This isn't a conspiracy. Kotick himself in the past has said he hates PC.
I really hate Activision mw2 is 15 years old
There are probably 200 people plying the base game still across all platforms
Definitely more than that... But I get what you mean. I've been one of those stay ons who kept coming back to and regularly play it off and on for years.
@@scottjs5207maybe he more specifically meant at the same time? that would mean that something like many thousands play it in a month, even more in a year
BO6 will still have hundreds of thousands of people playing day 1. The people saying "Fuck Activision" will be there. Nothing will ever change
I know I won't be. I'll be finding the cracked version and enjoy H2M
This is correct.
fucking pathetic. dont just give up, fight them on this shit. you vote with your wallet so dont buy it, dont play it, dont even talk about it. dont give this scum sucking company another cent for the rest of their days. dont just roll over and take it, jesus christ
Millions
I am not buying BO6. No. Way.
An official MW2 MP remaster did actually exist, they just decided to vault it and only release the campaign. There are text string references to a real h2mp executable and using h2mod for MW2CR, you can see it by using a command to attempt to load multiplayer, in an error message.
MW2 MP Remastered already exists, to some level of completion, they just aren’t and probably never will announce or release it.
When the community wants it, they ignored them, when the community makes it, suddenly they take interest and want to strike the mod down. Why?
At least the mod is out there thanks to the early access players still having the files, but it’ll forever be unfinished. They were actually going to revamp the lighting to look much better and closer to the original game.
And people will preorder BO6, without even having played the game, specifically to get access to the beta (demo) for a game that likely won’t be that good. I doubt tanking their sales will make them take back this move, they have more money than they know what to do with, but maybe people thinking about buying BO6 should reconsider.
Glad you refunded it, but if there's any way you can retain the mod files, *do it.* Activision needs to learn they can't control everything, even if they strive to be the fun police.
In other words, you are saying that you can go in someone else's house, rearranging the furniture, add some decor, and tell them that they have to learn that they can't control everything. Pretty idiotic if you ask me.
@@nuggetz4037this comparison is extremely idiotic
@@Yosh4761 how so baby?
@@nuggetz4037you are just defending activision lmao
@@BroskiPlays what's wrong with that? The modders have violated their intellectual property. Why are we pretending that that's okay?
The mod is still out there, people are leaking files for it, some 1200+ people online
1500+🔥🔥
the new discord server will reach 20k plus members in the weekend
@@dimiplsit’s at 23k rn
Send link please
@@Jaylennrrsend link please
The most plausible reason that the mod was shut down is that activision hates us and would rather us buy the yearly slop they dish out, rather than this
There are no friends in business. Make no mistake, Activision is after the money, as they should be. Otherwise, they have no reason to exist. If you have a problem with their business practices, or don't like their product, all you have to do is to stop purchasing their product. Otherwise, you are an idiot.
yall aren't consistent, so apparently they want us to buy yearly slop that never changes, but yall also want to play a re-released game that's a decade old because you want the old cod? make sense of it for me
@theweekndxo7438 it's just nostalgia. We are longing for moments that can never truly be recreated, Kids nowadays will feel the same way about black ops 6 in ten years.
But regardless, I don't have a pc so it doesn't matter
@@TheStubbornPlum but nostalgia is a terrible way to run a business
@theweekndxo7438 don't know think that's necessarily true, alot of money has been made from remasters and reviving dead franchises. You may think nostalgia is dumb, but it does get to a lot of people, if not most.
I'm interested to see Ace "angry", and rightly so
Activision is not to blame here. Simple as that. H2M is half of the problem, the other half are the consumers.
@@nuggetz4037 How's that Activision boot taste? You're hilariously sad. Here's why:
1. The H2M team did nothing wrong at all. They released the mod FOR FREE, and made it where you HAVE TO PURCHASE MWR for the mod to work. They were literally printing money for Activision and not asking for any compensation at all. How are they part of the problem?
2. How are we, the consumers, part of the problem as well? We just want to experience the glory days of old CoD games again, from back when we were teenagers/early 20s and the CoD games were actually fun, competitive for every play style, and when the devs didn't ask you to spend extra money for dumb stuff that you don't need. Why/how is that a problem?
@@nuggetz4037found the activision dev that shut it down
@@kasper_429crying wojak (you)
@@mrautismo420 Not crying, just pissed TF off like the rest of the OG CoD player community is right now.
They don't care if everyone hates them because y'all will buy the new game every year no questions asked. Quit giving the bully your lunch money and maybe something could change but you won't, it's like COD fans only see this franchise as the only fps game and need to buy it every damn year. News flash, there are far better games/companies out there doing it the right way, its okay to branch out and not support companies that don't care.
Exactly. I just wish more people, and even more so RUclipsrs, would actually stop supporting these practices. A lot of people are at fault here as well, not just Activision.
Couldn’t agree more with either of you two
I have no interest in old COD remasters. I played them already, I don't need to do it again. I'll be buying BO6 because it looks fun.
@@Real_Beaky: And that’s okay your valid for ur opinion. Still a shame that the other part of the community can’t get Mw2R.
PSA; It is leaked, it works, Zelta has it pinned on his twitch, theyve just got server browser working and they are all constantly full.
Activision was too slow.
A wise man named Woolie Madden once had great advice for mod makers, ROM hackers, and other creators of fan projects that bears repeating: SHUT THE F**K UP. DO NOT talk about your project until it is DONE AND RELEASED. Companies are actively looking for projects like these to shut down before they get off the ground
But muh hype cycle
Yep, and if you want to talk about it then release the early access version for everyone and not inly for youtubers
troon 🤢
No. That would have made this so much more easier to brush under the rug. They knew there was a good chance that Activision was going to send to cease and desist letter so they made it public and let Activision dig their own grave. If they would have just released it without saying anything, then it could have got shut down and it would have been a blip in the news feeds. Also calm down. It's their mod and they can advertise it however they want. This does way more damage to Activision and would have had the same result either way.
disgusting pfp
I used to think that SM2 got shut down for distributing pirated assets and not because it would get in the way of a new Call of Duty release. I guess this shutdown of H2M proves otherwise.
Lesson learned.
I mean, H2M was pirating assets too. You basically get to play MW2 for free by downloading the mod. Not saying you shouldn’t download the leaked files to the mod, though
Ig that means plutonium is living on borrowed time
@@epicgamerzfail4575 it doesnt have pirated assets? its literally a few kb .exe file
@@Rat_King1001 No other way to play MW2 though. You can't buy MW2 anywhere, the steam version is barely functional. If they had a version of MW2 available for people to play, they wouldn't need to play a mod or download a leaked client. They just want to play the game with an active community behind it.
@@Rat_King1001 but you don't. You still have to buy MWR.
I was really hoping h2m would succeed, but knowing how activision operates, I held off on buying MW:R. I feel like they were scared it would hamper their numbers for mw3 season 6 and black ops 6 and none of these users would invest in a battle pass or cosmetics.
It’s a shame that they will shutdown a mod like this but won’t shutdown cheat developers. What a shit company
You are aware shutting down cheat devs is far more difficult right? They often operate in different counties, far more subtly, and are far harder to pin down. For cheat devs, it may be more can’t than won’t.
Activision has shut down cheat developers before
At this point if Activision ever does an official remake of MW2 multiplayer it should be boycotted.
They dont deserve any more money from the IP after how they've treated its community.
It'd be worse what SM2 or this title was gonna do... Somehow I just know they'd blunder on another Remaster...
I don’t agree. It would be a step towards redemption and forgiveness.
This backfired massively since now people are refunding the game and playing the mod anyway lol
This is honestly the final straw for me. From the constant lawsuits and sexual assault violations in the workplace that ended with someone committing superslide, to now waiting before the day of release on this mod to cash in as much as possible with sales, with no intention of ever letting this mod see the light of day, the higher ups seem like the most vile disgusting people on the planet. I canceled my bo6 preorder, which is unfortunate bc the game is looking great, and i know the devs that actually made it are generally good people so I hate that they're collateral damage. Ik bo6 will still do well and ill probably end up checking it out on gamepass at some point, but for now they aren't getting my $70. I know im just one person and the the act of me cancelling alone won't change anything, but i would encourage any others on the fence to do so aswell. Whether it be bc youre tired of the althorithms in the game (sbmm) or bc the higher ups are disgusting people. Ive held onto hope for far too long that this franchise would return to its glory days at some point, but with the sbmm tests they've run at this point, it's clear that activision doesn't care if you enjoy the game or not, and only want retention or money. We are literal lab rats. Sorry for the rant im just so sick of this company
superslide
@@HaveButOneLife lol pretty sure the real word is against tos
@@willy3428 Would've been funnier if it was a typo.
@@willy3428 it’s kind of sad this is the final straw for some people. Should’ve been done even before those stories came out.
@@meeeeooooww Agreed. But cod was like a drug for me. Always had the itch to play, rarely got any highs from it, and the lows with it far outweighed the highs. It's hard to throw away those rose tinted glasses bc mw2 (2009) - bo2 were by far my favorite years in gaming
It's so cool how they made new Search and Destroy maps of the Activision and Microsoft HQ buildings.
On twitch H2M is live and running right now and people are streaming it
Yes there is a leaked version of the mod, it's playable on cracked version of the game aswell
I can confirm I also saw it at the top of my 'top selling' list in Steam.
Also saw they had the game on sale the entire time with the sale ending the day before the mod release.
No more money to Activision
Man…how many times do we need to learn this lesson?
JUST BECAUSE YOU’RE NOT MAKING MONEY OFF IT DOESN’T MEAN IT’S NOT INFRINGEMENT.
As you said, if a copyright holder doesn’t defend its copyright in notable cases of infringement, the holder can lose it. And the hype that was built for this mod made it a notable case. The nail stuck up too far and got hammered down. And the potential dollars they could have made off sales of MWR wouldn’t be anywhere NEAR enough to make ActiBlizz consider risking copyright abandonment.
Does anyone know if there happens to be a github that may "accidentally" still have the files up for download?
Yes its leaked and people are playing. "Sage Here" on youtube seem to be the most reliable source of h2m
that would be crazy talk
V3nilla/H2M-MOD-Torrent-File
@@BKHD605 Based
GUYS THE GAME IS STILL PLAYABLE! DO NOT GIVE UP. WE CAN STILL PLAY H2M MOD JUST RUclips IT. SPREAD THE WORD
A story old as time: cod multiplayer mods gets released as a test for content creators, they all make videos at the same time, mod gets DMCA'd contnet creators all wonder why, creators bash call of duty talk about boycotting the game, few months later content creator plays the new cod + even buys skins + battlepass. Im sorrh but i gotta side with Activision at this point
They are going to create an official remaster. They just need to find a way to add the current SBMM and Microtransaction BS into them.
They can't monetize this game with microtransactions like they do with newer titles. Even if this game sold really well, it's still just a one-time purchase. In contrast, with a new COD title, they can make money not just from the initial purchase, but also from the Battle Pass, skins, and other microtransactions. They end up making way more money per player through monetization. And even if some players don't spend anything on microtransactions or the Battle Pass, there's always someone who will drop $50 on a new bundle or collab they like, which balances out the players who spend nothing. The only option I could think of to make everyone happy is make a "Classic Cod" Mode like Warzone but with no skins or fancy camos, kinda like "The Master Chief Collection" but attached like Warzone.
I know Activision hates fun, but this is a new low even for them. This mod was different from the other ones, in that you literally HAD TO BUY MWR to be able to even use H2M, but they still said no. It was literally printing money for Activision without them lifting a damn finger, and they killed it. I'm salty AF about it, but I knew in the back of my mind that it was bound to happen. I just didn't expect it to happen this soon. The thing wasn't even out to the public yet! So freaking dumb.
Something needs to happen at Activision to purge the dumb, out-of-touch corporate leadership that they have going on. Activision needs to be restarted with people that actually give a crap about the CoD community and not just money-hungry imbeciles that hate the average gamer.
In the famous words of cave Johnson - "When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade - make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons, what am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons. I'm going to to get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!"
Activision was more than within their rights to shut it down
@@foxtrotsierraproductions8626 it still doesn't make it feel any better
Activision just further proves every day that they’re the worst gaming company (arguably one of the worst companies) on the planet even more so than EA, Tencent, and others combined. The fact they were literally gaining money from this and still cancelled it because they’re too scared of a simple mod done by a few people over their 4 years in the making game with thousands of developers. Activision should be ashamed to call themselves a company.
*Microsoft. Activision was bought out remember. All these decisions are microsoft now.
Stuff like this is why I won’t give Activision or Ubisoft more money. I’ll play xdefiant but that’s because it’s free to play.
Had a feeling when I saw you and other big yters make videos on it that it wasn't goin to last. The previous mods for other titles with cod last way longer when people don't make videos on them, drawing attention to them
2:01 that is far from the reason. If custom assets or assets from other cod games in cod mods were a problem all those thousands of waw and bo3 custom zombie maps and mods that use assets from other cod games would be in trouble too. So no. That's far from the reason.
Also not to mention people have (waws case and probably bo3 too but at first they got removed) literally made bo1 and 2 maps and dlc in waw customs
@@NITROexpress17 it was never an issue before. I've seen tons of maps using later cod maps and never have issue even DLC maps. So no that is never a problem. Now if it is a DLC map of a just released new CoD game then yes of course that is going to cause trouble. But if it's older games there is no reason.
I don't think the assets from other games argument is relevant. Because then why are they not shutting down the Bo3 custom zombies mods and maps that use assets from games like Vanguard, Cold war, BO4, IW, MW2019,etc? They didn't buy Vanguard yet they can use assets from Vanguard for example in their zombies maps. That doesn't make sense. It has to be so they can squeeze more money from us. Altough apperantly it's because they were scared of the impact it will have on BO6. LOL
Straight facts I think Activision is just scared of BO6 not getting sells so fuck them. They are NOT getting my sale this year
My guess would be that BO3 maps only use some aspects and have most of the map still custom built, H2M would've been mostly OG MW2 and MW2CR assets.
@@deathtrooper2048 Doesn't matter. It's still using other games assets
@patricklitterallyit4164 then why do cod vr mods exist then?
Doesn’t matter, genie is outta the bottle, refunded the game and torrented it instead, playing h2m rn with the leaked files. All Activision did was cost themselves money 😂
Fortunately, the community still has access to the leaked mod files, so there’s 63 servers up and running right now with 1001 concurrent players playing h2m right now.
If only someone would leak them for everyone else
@@FruitLoop2020 I tried linking them in my reply, seems it got deleted.
Could you link it to me personally some how?
@@ryanoulicky9572 What’s your email or discord, I’ll reach out
Activision just doesn't want the community to have nice things. So I don't want Activision to have nice things anymore. Left a 1 star review on all cods in the xbox store, and unsubscribed to everything Activision/COD related. As long as COD has this online community, it will seem cool, boosting sales. Can't have that, won't be a part of it anymore. F*** Activision.
Like it was a shitty thing for activision to do, but using assets from MW2R campaign was never not going to cause copyright issues, especially since people didn’t have to own that game to play the mod. From activison’s point of view this isn’t any better than people using pirated copies
The solution you are mentioning in the video is exactly what World of Warcraft did with Classic, and it paid the hell off.
That just goes to show that Microsoft doesn't care either, and that the U.S. intellectual property and patent policies are egregious and favor corporations.
I disagree that Activision had a legal reason to do this. I even doubt it's in their Terms of Use. If that were the case, BO1 and 2 mods would get shut down.
Can COD get sued? Like from the view point of. Maybe they new months ahead about the mod possibly releasing so they started a sale on MW2R? Knowing they would farm free money.
No they cant and Acti was within their rights to C&D H2M
Thank you for highlighting the use of assets from other games. I know it's easy to just be grumpy about Activision shutting it down, but these kinds of mods aren't gray-area issues; they are blatant illegal distributions of copyrighted materials. There's zero chance they would have ever let this slide because they simply cannot allow that kind of precedent to be set for their IP. That's just basic business. The mod _maybe_ would have had a chance if it required legit copies of MWR/MW2/MW2R in order to legally access all of the necessary assets, but now we'll never know (they very easily could have shut it down anyway even if they didn't have legal justification, but at that point, what are you going to do? Fight Activision's legal team?)
I completely agree that Acti is a shady, greedy, anti-fan corporation, but we as a community need to stop acting surprised/hurt when these things happen. A note to any aspiring modders out there: You _have to_ play by the rules in order for there to be any chance at all of these things launching and surviving in the wild, _especially_ when dealing with notoriously stingy publishers like Activision and Nintendo. This has happened a million times across the industry, and it's always heartbreaking to see all that hard work and passion go down the drain at the last second.
Did you not pay attention? You had to purchase MWR to use the mod
@@elnumbrotres MWR is not MW2 or MW2R. You cannot strip assets from other games and distribute them for free.
@@smagliaro if you want to look at it narrowly. Regardless, you still have to purchase an activision published game to use the mod. There’s no reason for activision to not release MW2R except for their laziness. Heck, they could have “bought” the mod from these guys if they wanted. By “bought”‘I mean seized by the way. There was no reason to kill it other than a complete lack of awareness for what their fans want
@@elnumbrotres That isn't "narrow". It's crystal clear copyright violation.
To be clear, I'm not defending Activision's "honor" or whatever here. I'm just saying that if modders want these kind of high-risk mods to survive, they have to, _at the very least,_ avoid those kinds of obvious pitfalls that give publishers 100% justifiable grounds to take legal action.
From a fan standpoint, it's clear that greed is the real reason. They want to keep MW2R multiplayer in their back pocket as a freebie hot-seller if/when they have a big flop and miss revenue targets. They absolutely know there is demand, and it has already been quasi-confirmed that the entire MP was remastered as part of MW2R but never released. It's a business strategy, not laziness.
A second release each year when COD hype is at its lowest for remasters would honestly be insane, seems like an all around win
This is all the evidence we need that Activision will NOT release a MW2, BO 1 & 2 remaster. No matter what. Activision waiting until the last day AND until the sales to end for MWR on PC. Now we as a community need to stop buying bundles, stop buying games and do not buy BO6. I was REALLY excited for this. I really was. Get your refunds people. Thats what I did.
Other than buying the game I refuse to give them any of my $. F them.
i'm completely done with cod.. insanely strict sbmm in non ranked matches, mwIII (2023) being a glorified dlc of mwII(2022 which was a piece of...) shutting down development of sm 2, now this. this franchise has been burned to the ground...
Personally, I don't really want or care about old COD remasters or mods. I've been a pretty devote COD player since WaW playing hundreds of hours each year but most of the older CODs aren't that good anymore. The only thing I want from the old games is the maps, and they did a good job of that this year. Instead of wasting resources on remasters, I'd prefer if they just put that time and money into more maps, new and old.
They may have shut it down officially but the mod has leaked and theres already 1400+ players on the servers on the leaked mod most of the servers are full currently it just means that the mods official server is shut down but it doesnt stop us once we have the files can always make servers for it they cant stop it now and the downloads they can try to copyright but they can't shut down torrents
api.raidmax on there it has h2m server list there's currently 1500+ players and Activision looses out more on this because it doesn't require u to own the game like the official h2m server would have had a ownership check but now with that offline the game works with pirate copy of MWR
Maybe you shouldn't have given the mod that much attention. You literally killrd the mod on arrival, Ace.
Typical Activision. They’re so scummy
scummy for not allowing their assets to be pirated and for it to affect their new game sales. Very intelligent argument lol
@@theweekndxo7438you must love the taste of the activision boot lmaoooo
@@xeno703 I hate corporations but I’m not dumb enough to expect different from them like you people. Not everyone who disagrees with you is on the other side dumb dumb. Learn nuance
@@theweekndxo7438Fr these little tik tok kids have no brain lmao, great reply man honestly everything u said i agree with.
it's out there rn and a lot of servers are up
Yes, I would pay for gamepass if MW2 remastered was a gamepass exclusive! I would even pay $200+ for an official MW2 Remastered if it had no microtransactions lol. WE JUST WANT TO HAVE FUN
I swear if the remastered mw2 same game but better graphics and no hack on ps5 i will pay even 500 for it im not kidding
Or mw3 remastered love both og game
They’re probably still holding M2R Multiplayer in their back pocket for a rainy day and this would hurt those sales. Or they could possibly just be that petty.
I'm genuinely not sure why people are surprised. This was always going to happen.
Activision is getting dumber and dumber and I twitted this towards activision directly, even for them its really dumb to throw this amount of money away
I'm 32 I played cod since the day it came out , I've slowly played less and less , and now I don't want anything to do with it. They lost me way before this little controversy
I've seen a tweet claiming that from leaked internal discussions at Activision (so take this with a grain of salt), the reason they C&D'd H2M was because they're worried that it would impact sales of BO 6, and I could 100% see that.
And I've also heard the reason for no multiplayer remasters is because, even though they had multiplayer for MW2R ready, Warzone blew up, so they canned it.
man can’t wait to see these “haha told you so im the smart one that saw it coming” comments, like okay wow you must be fun in social gatherings
you must be stupid then
I could definitely feel it though. Tbh they should’ve just released it without any promo so we could at least have the version as intended but they had to do the whole hype campaign, anyone with eyes and ears could see it so ofc Activision legal pounced on it at the most opportune time.
Ace we need you or any content creator to just put the setup files out there. Hop on a vpn, look up how to make a .torrent file, the community will take care of the rest.
One of those "I told you so" moments.
@briantryin6113 - no one knows you homie
And what if "i told you" there were thousands of players playing HM2 right now?
@@effortlessGFXOk boomer
@@MrPanggsNobody cares about offline
@@briantryin6113people are playing against real people right now bro🤦🏾♂️
You can still play H2M.
The argument of "they have to protect their copyright or risk losing it" is bullshit and simply not true. Publishers like Bethesda, CDPR, Capcom, etc would be screwed if that was the case. Look at Fallout 4 as the best, most recent example. A MASSIVE mod called Fallout London ust released for the game, you have to own a version of Fallout 4 to play it, but it's entirely a new game, similar to needing MWR to play this H2M mod. Bethesda is risking losing their copyright portections by allowing Fallout London to exist, and in fact it only benefits Bethesda because they are making bank off a 10 year old game while doing absolutely nothing.
you're dumnb
Fallout london doesn't use assets from other Fallouts.
You are comparing single player to multi-player
Enderal and its previous instalments is probably a better example. It's a standalone game which you can pick up free if you own Skyrim on steam (I mean Enderal is literally on Steam). It's basically its own game series built off of Creation Engine, much like DayZ became with ArmA 2/3.
Just when I thought ACTIVISION couldn’t be any worse. They were worse. So sad. Hope you have the day you deserve…
Cod really sucks ngl.
it has since 2013.
@@prozoomy Facts. BO3 is cool, but I really prefer not having boost jumping. It's probably better on mouse and keyboard. I was on console at that time.
Even COD ghost was more fun than some of the new COD games we have now.
@@jaylenjames364 yeah ghost and bo3 were good games. Shame we can't have decent games like that anymore m
Cold War was the last game I bought and it was aight, only bought it for the zombies with the campaign being pretty decent. Just amazing how shitty the market for Triple A games has become and gaming in general.
FCC Should get involved, since ACtivision has a failure to provide service. You have no way to play MW2 safely anymore
The most plausible reason is that it was taking away hype from blops 6. It was a game that many people were going to buy. But most importantly, they kniw it is far more fun then anything they have released in 5 years combined.
They did this to be assholes Ace. Thats the most plausible reason.
I dont trust them to release this themselves. They will fuk with the matchmaking. They will add in mtx. They will manipulate the shit out of the experience as much as possible just like they do with their current, modern, "cod 2.0" titles.
After this, im done with this company. Its clear they just dont want me or people like me as customers. They know i dont buy bundles. They know i dont buy the battlepass. They know i have only even seen the shop by accidental button presses. This was the only way they were going to get a dollar out of players like me, and instead of just taking the free money for no work, they told me and everyone like me to go F myself
As if old players would be any interested in the new installment. The target demographic for H2 were the OG players, such players would not have any interest in BO6 had H2 been cancelled or was it still here. They simply have no interest in that cash-grab. To say that H2 would have a negative influence on BO6 is rather laughable considering its targeted audience would not come near it either way.
@@mazin_iq1499 I did say it. Because it's true.
They want everyone to play the newest title filled with all the background fuckery and mtx.
Allowing anyone, let alone thousands of players go back to what is widely considered the best release of the franchise, where there is no background fuckery, no mtx, would reflect very poorly in the modern product. It would expose it for what it is. A manipulation tactic, disguised as a game built to funnel as many people as possible to the shop and mtx. It's quite literally the only thing they give a shit about
The point you raise about the spring time hype dying off has me very suspicious about the rumours regarding a return of verdansk or another new big map for warzone and the timing it's supposedly set to release
>make multiplayer mod of MWR
>use MW2R assets that don't require owning it
>advertise it everywhere and even invite youtubers to play
>news sources blast it everywhere
>activision sends a DMCA after seeing all the ruckus
>surprised pikachu face
What did they expect? Other mods are still alive.
Brain Rot
Should've just dropped it without advertisements
They should have listened to Woolie
@@SoulbentAnime that would've been worst. That would give them grounds to sue like what Nintendo did to that other company. Sadly it always always gonna come down to a C&D cause use of other assets
@jeremybrown9611 nah, they would've just been cease and desisted. Eldewrito got c&d when it had been released for a little while. Both are owned by Microsoft. Eldewrito got us Halo on PC. Hopefully this gets us the official mw2 remastered multiplayer that they already made a long time ago
even if activision were open to modding this mod would have been taken down, the fact it didnt require any purchase of mw2 assets alone makes the outrage about this situation complete nonsense, modders need to stop being stupid and just make a community server browser for the og mw2, don't remaster anything and just make it so we can play the original without being hacked it's literally that simple
Im a Arma 3 Modder and my Mod is CoD Inspired. My Characters Wwapons and Vehicles look similiar to CoD Stuff but i use my own assets.
I would literally do anything to have this mod pack I got back on my pc and play the original MW2 because I’m still so in love with it. It feels icky they waited till the last day to pull the rug and it shows what kind of company they are.. it feels like a gut punch how they treated the modders and the community.
Wish they’d release the rest of the trilogy in its entirety and take the player base hit fuc
To your point about them using assets from CODs other than MWR, why is BO3 custom zombies maps able to get away with using assets from all sorts of games? There’s maps with guns and enemies from IW, BO4, Cold War, etc.
This was not smart in a businesses perspective
They continue to make bo6
Make money from that
People play h2m
They make money off that
They can make so much profit with half the effort
They literally benefit the most out of the h2m release
You said it right there. Whats really insulting to Activision's end is as of right now, as a Halo fan first and foremost... our MCC is effectively dead. I also doubt anything remastered or remixed would come from BF either. No more support. It's botted/hacked to trash. It's so close to being considered shovelware save for offline campaign depending on how bad the hacks get. Activision can definitely hop in and say "you know what... heres the entire Black Ops storyline, remastered, ready to rock in one package with all the zombies goodness you want". Considering their track record for microtransactions, it wouldnt be as egregious to how Microsoft/343 recived flak for their implementation for MCC either.
Gladly would hop on that fast.
Never buy an activision/microsoft game ever again.
Servers are still up and still playable thank goodness.
If they would have done it 3 days after just think of the cash they could have made...
I don’t want Activision to remaster mw2. They’d completely ruin it with heavy skill based.
And doors
Not to mention that on top of all the stuff the mod had from the original mw2 it also fixed the one man army exploit that allowed you to infinitely resupply grenade launcher ammo, countless hours of work just gone, man i feel bad for the devs
seems like everyone is forgetting that activision has MW2R on deck, they just chose not to release this. I think it has something to do with the fact they'd lose sales on MW2R if they were to release it at some point with this being out
I am done buying cod’s until integrated community servers and mods are supported again. 2019 was promised with community servers and they failed.
I love this game more than any other multiplayer game, the memories on MW2 were something else… but after all the stuff Activision have pulled with cod, it breaks my heart to say I’d never give them my money for this remastered now.
The sale on the core game ended the day before and the cease and desist was sent so would arrive just before release of mod. They are so aggravating. If you buy skins currently at top list you get easier matches it’s proven. Abandon ship is the only answer. Which makes me depressed.
greedy activision you put it out there, your responsible for it
I really can't see Activision doing an official release of MW2R, given MWIII this year already has all the old maps on it. If it was in the works, they wouldn't have used all the maps this year. In terms of reasons why they shut the mod down, it could be as simple as it's their intellectual property - regardless of whether the devs are making money off of it. You don't lose copyright for not actively defending it, but you will lose your trademark ie. the Call of Duty name and the property within it.
What I've seen with modern COD games is that bringing back old maps isn't as nostalgic as it should be, because of those downy mantling/sliding mechanics. Players who didn't grow up on 2009 to 2012 CODs aren't getting the experience we got back then. I'd be fine paying for some remasters as long as they aren't graphically excessive (meaning they'd require me to buy a new PC which is a no-go).
All you can do is stop buying fkn passes, bundles and game annually. Its not that hard.
But what if you enjoy the new games?
Your point about remasters is what I've brought up on other videos about this that I haven't heard from other creators in fact a lot of your points are very logical and so far you have the best video on this topic I'd love to play WAW mw2 blops1 mw3 again remastered with safe no cheater lobbies as an avid mmorpg fan osrs and wow have solved a massive copyright issue by releasing nostalgia content to fill the drought periods of new mainline content it's really the future for a lot of these decades old franchises and idk how Activision can run wow+wow classic+seasonal wow content and not try the same for old cod titles
Guys! refund the game! Even if you have more than 2 hours just explain the H2M situation to support, just got mine refunded with 6 hours
You don't understand, some random manager somewhere said that the overlap between players who play the newest titles and the players who'd stick around for this longer than a week (hint: that overlap doesn't exist lmao activision), would be significant enough to draw players away from the game that sells AI generated skins that people spend $20 dollars for every other week.
I don't even need to look at the data to know that their hypothesis is wrong, because I know their audience better than they do, *because I play with them*
I think a huge reason people were so into it tho was that it wasn’t been run by Activision, no sbmm or store bundles, I personally would not be so into it if it was an official remaster