Crimson Dynamo ...but only a human can activate Halo’s countermeasures though... Oohhh! You’re saying everything’s shit and they did nothing was done for two months because the administration lacks the humanity to try! Well hey, maybe we can just turn to the navy for some humanity like in Halo? Oh wait... didn’t the administration just fire someone for exactly that? Yes. Yes, they did.
He's actually quite terrified though, which in itself is a testament to the Spartan training he underwent. That he can stare his greatest fear in the face and just retain a level of calm and collected that has rarely ever been both seen and comes off as completely believable.
Him being afraid of the gravemind, cause I’ve read fall of reach and am almost done with The Flood but in both books it doesn’t mention him being scared of the flood.
@@Krosstic I believe it's The Flood, I haven't read the book myself, but apparently there's a part in one of the earlier books that tells about an encounter where Master Chief is attacked by a Flood form while trying to detonate the PoA's reactor core. I think you can find out more about it in a video I do believe is titled "How the Gravemind(or was it Flood?) almost killed the Master Chief"
This is the most cannonically correct version of gravemind, it is just a sentient mass of decaying corpses. The original looked like a fly trap, or a bean stalk lol.
Gravemind is without question one of my favorite Villains of all time; a hyper-intelligent, poetic and philosophical eldritch abomination whose very body is formed from the corpses of his fallen enemies.
I am fascinated by that Gravemind. A collection of thousands of Flood parasites with thousands of minds each containing intelligence to form a beast that can think beyond "kill kill kill".
SPAKELDORF I do think the grave mind is cool it’s up there as my second favourite hive mind the nids from warhammer takes first because whilst the grave mind is smart and the hive mind is powerful it’s no we’re near the as powerful or as smart as the nids one plus the gravy mind can be destroyed but the nids hive mind can’t be destroyed because unlike the gravy mind it has no physical presence of its own plus it’s sheer Size affects real space driving people mad , bending reality, prevention of long range communication and travel just bye exciting in the same area that area being anywhere between a Solar system to a entire sector of space.
Inquisitor Thomas I will say the nids are immensely more powerful purely because of how dangerous and and how many of them there are the grave mind has intelligence on them I mean every thing that gets turned into a flood it’s knowledge gets added to the hive mind In fact when a ton a beings get added it can fix and operate ships and turn an ai that was built to terminate them over to there side
HEART xw ture it can get get very smart I agree there however it dose need to infect other thing to do so nids just don’t need to do that however like you said the flood can use technology like space ships if they figure out how but this also shows they are planet bound with out the aid of higher intelligent life that has access to space ships tyrands just grow spaceships
The fact the Gravemind could hear Cortana _inside Chief's helmet_ is such a nice touch. It shows that the Flood didn't just mindlessly consume the Forerunners, but learned and developed to counter their attempts at destroying them. Which means the Gravemind had either dealt with their technology at one point, learned how it worked from the marines they infected, or had an organ that sensitive to sound. All of which are pretty damn freaky.
@@toastedjawa3620 That's the point. No one understands how it really works, I think it's called neural physics and it believes everything in the universe is alive, changing and molding throughout the experiences it lives through. The precursors are a god-like species, and neural physics could simply be a more advanced/accurate way of seeing the universe. After all, if we showed a guy 500 years in the past atoms, they would be either laughing or shocked.
The sin I believe the gravemind is referring to is their pride. Their arrogance is literally spitting them in the face with the recycled corpses of their own friends and allies. Or you know, something along those lines.
This scene was never as scary as it should have been because of the graphical limitations of the period. Now however. The flood are no longer just a nuisance. They seem genuinely terrifying.
Aidan Webb damn straight. If you read some of the flood vs threads on some more detail/calc oriented forums like Spacebattles you can learn just how deadly the little bastards are. Seriously they stomp like 90% of the versus debates they're put in through sheer virulence, tenacity, and malicious cunning. If you were to throw a single flood form at, say, Coroscaunt the entire Galaxy would be Flood in under a week.
Also, at the time I remember playing the original game on relase and that was a bigger narrative twist than aliens being real: the casual acknowledgement that all life was sterilized from the universe before you, um, talk about existential crisis fuel. That means it could happen again, major tension.
So....when the Rings were built, tests were ran that calculated it could wipe out 1.2 trillion lives. When it was used, it took out 1 trillion instead, if I'm interpreting what he said correctly
"There is much talk, and I have listened. Through rock and metal and time." Glad to hear the Gravemind's musical preference. I wonder what bands he likes..
+Shrihari Hudli Well you see, it's an ancient Forerunner genre so advanced in nature, no one is able to replicate it. Not even the developers of the games could. That or the Gravemind just sits their for a very long time with his mix tapes
morally immoral it maybe but they probably added another voice or just changed the original @ 2:37 it sounds like there’s a kids voice mixed in. 1 year later😂🤷🏻♂️
I think he's referring to John's fearlessness and that he knows what he's doing, and the 'Vadamee is a simple fleshling who relies too heavily on his delusional faith. Reply if you agree.
+AoDConnection If you were looking at it with no context then, yeah I can see that. Gravemind is literally holding each of them in his face as he says this to them.
Hopefully they consider it for The Last of Us film. I am really not comfortable with a live action version, rather than just translate the aesthetics and cutscenes from the game medium to the film medium.
Damon242 I don't think it will be considered for The Last of Us. And I don't want that film to be CG. I think it'd work a lot better using live action. I do wish it was being made into a television series rather than a film, though.
I dunno man. Sometimes it looks like miniatures from old movies. Like I thought the Gravemind was playing with action figures at some points. Not sure if I like it.
El Duderino not to mention that the plot of last of us is soooo generic, i can name 8 zombie stories off the top of my head that have the same.. exact.. plot
My favourite part is when the Gravemind states in regards to the oracle and the Forerunners super-weapon; “this ones containment...”, and then shivers in rage and disgust. Through this one little yet profound detail you can see how sentient the Gravemind truly is, he wants to prolong the existence of his species as much as any other species in the Halo universe, even ours. He knows what the Halo weapon is capable of, what it will do to the Flood, and for that he holds nothing short of pure loathing and resentment for its very purpose. God I just love how much personality the Gravemind has (considering he’s made up of billions of personalities, what else could you think...but you get me), so great of a sentience, not just a zombie form that requires flesh for simple sustenance
I remember people saying the flood are just another space parasitic infection which at its core is just zombies, but this scene actually has a bigger impact the more you think of it. A viral zombie outbreak is seen as base at best in games and movies, spread the plague through sheer force and domination and the creatures they usually make are dumber than rocks, no spatial awareness and no thought save consuming. This scene shows that the flood are on a much scarier scale as they are able to not only adapt but forge alliances when needed, that's an intelligence that goes beyond even some of the species in Halo. As if that weren't enough in a novel of the Halo universe the forerunners 'captured' a gravemind of a similar caliber to this one and much like this one talked about its race and it's intentions with the arrogance of knowing it will succeed even as they built the halo rings, if that weren't enough the gravemind could explain in vivid detail how its infection process worked and every single person that heard of it killed themselves out of pure fear. Say what you want about the flood as a nuisance but they brought a new meaning to the term; infection
I think more along the lines of seeing the same thing as it did. combined flesh and assimilation would have simply made it more well simply it. The Grave mind likely just wanted them too see in the same line of thinking it did and stop the ring from going off. thus brothers.
yea I don't get that, yes the lighting and environments look good in 3 still but look at the character models and tell me they look good. also imagine if the environments and lighting look good back then imagine what we can do now
Gravemind: "This is not your grave! But you are welcome in it." "I... I am a monument to all your sins!" "There is much talk, and I have listened..... through rock, and metal, and time. Now I shall talk and YOU shall listen!" "Silence fills the empty grave, now that I am gone. But my mind is not at rest.... for more questions linger on. I will ask and YOU will answer." And my favorite of the two riddles I know of what he says: "Child of my enemy why have you come? I offer no forgiveness; a father's sins (Forerunners), passed to his sons (Humanity)." "Of course you came for her (Cortana).... we exist together now; two corpses in one grave." I love the gravemind as a villain ❤ He's one of my favorite antagonists of all time! I love how his catchy deep voice flows with his riddles.
"Fate had us meet as foes, but this ring will make us, brothers." I love this quote from the gravemind, and he was right about it too, till we figured out he just used chief as bait to infect high charity.
Melissa Waterman I don’t know if the gravemind knew that the great schism was taking place, and came to the assumption that sending chief into high charity would cause enough chaos so it could effectively infect high charity without being contained.
Say what you will about Halo 5, but I think Halo 2 Anniversary's art style is the best it's ever been. Amazing combination of old Bungie art and 343's own direction.
Watching this and then thinking about the campaign of Halo 5... The level of dialogue and story telling isn't even remotely comparable, the series is a shell of its former self.
Vincent Bédard So just Chief and Cortana? I'd say they got a lot more development in each of the original games. Yea Cortana with all the AI's is something but that's pretty much it. Then there's the whole thing that they introduced(into the main games anyway) like 5-6 spartans who received little to no development and literally could of been nameless NPCs and the story would be exactly the same. Even Buck had no purpose.
Vincent Bédard The gravemind predates the UNSC and covenant ever showing up on delta halo. it's probably been there pretty much from the time of the forerunners. and it would have been infecting and assimiliating men, women, and children from that time. the halo rings themselves only kill the food they eat. so the gravemind would have just gone into hibernation. and with no way to actually leave the halo ring, it pretty much couldn't do anything.
I never noticed that penitent tangent actually has a pupil of sorts, you can see it’s a lighter dot that moves around where he’s supposedly looking Also the way even something as horrendous as the gravemind still shudders at the thought of “containment” is a very good touch to show the contempt the flood has for the halo array and the forerunners as a whole. 2:13
I can't believe it, everyone has their own opinion but how can anyone hate this design of the Gravemind? Some people are never happy. It's perfect down to the slightest detail, it is at it's most basic level, millions and millions of dead bodies smoshed and squashed together to create a gigantic being who controls smaller flood. It is meant to be a disgusting/awesome looking beast. This is the perfect Gravemind, far better then his original look.
"everyone has their own opinion". Correct. *Proceeds to act like their preference of the new art is fact* Alright, calm down there, buddy. It's okay if people like one giant sock monster over the other. I like aspects from both, but ultimately prefer the look of the original. The wider face and lack of the toothy mouth (to me it looks corny) is why I'm a fan of the old over the new one.
LateNightGaming Can be? More like are some of the worst types of fans out there. I'm a die hard Halo fan, and even I can admit that I get unreasonably mad about nothing all the time. It's like all someone has to do is say: "Fuck 343i" and it's the Great Fucking Schism all over again.
Hassan Henry they're probably expecting something cute or something that looks like a green flower. You know if they do not like the new design if you play Halo 2 Anniversary you can instantly change the graphics back to the old ones if you want to feel more nostalgic.
Hassan Henry I agree with you the grave mind should look absolutely hideous and probably smell as bad as well I mean because it should be a pile of all the existing creatures it absorbed on whichever planet it was on but to me the grave mind looks like a giant form of John Carpenters the thing would you agree
''This one is machine and flesh - and its mind is concluded.'' I love how the Gravemind refers to Chief as ''it'', because of his augmentations, perhaps?
Sort of. It also refers to the Arbiter as “it”. im sure the Gravemind knows their respective species but being a parasite made of multiple species and beings it does not discriminate based on gender nor race.
@@f1ringfed your thinking too much like 343. Bungie used Master chief and the arbiter as vessels for the player to experience the story. Bungie also loved to make bad ass stuff and lore was just a side effect. There was a forerunner tank level planned that got dropped before they had time as well as a forerunner boss fight. Having a big biomass refer to things in the 3rd person just sounds cooler. Like the soul reason we fall damage is out and spartans can jump from orbit is because it was cool to watch chief blow up a ship with a bomb. Non of that was planned. Just making cool shit up. Marty was there as the cool nerd to make the story work but their no nonsense lore crap and that's why the bungie games had better stories then the 343 games. No sitting trough 4 hours of exposition. Just shit relevent to the plot and why you committing genocides
Y’know, watching this again, I see some interesting theming I had missed. There is symmetry in how the characters are all bound and how they act as individuals. The Arbiter is bound at the hands and feet, tumbling upside down as the Gravemind holds him. He’s restrained almost like a puppet, with the Gravemind pulling the strings, mirroring how the Arbiter and his kin were manipulated and betrayed by the Prophets. The Arbiter has no control of his path, here. He is a product of those in power, and he holds no power on his own. This of course changes after Halo 2, but it’s a clever visual metaphor. Master Chief, in contrast, is completely wrapped by the tentacles; he has no mobility, and was dragged in by his feet. This is because, if given the chance, Chief would most likely attempt to either escape or destroy the Gravemind. He has a set goal, he has conviction, and he has the cunning to put a plan into action. As the Gravemind says, chief “is machine and nerve, and has his mind concluded.” By restraining him in this way, he’s preventing a threat from escaping. This is also a similar case to 2401 Penitent Tangent, who is essentially tied to a leash. The Gravemind can’t infect a machine (well, there’s the logic plague, but that’s different), so he has him tied up. The Monitor can still move, to a degree, but he is still bound. Like the Chief, Penitent Tangent also has his mind concluded - that is, he has a single goal, and allows for no alternatives. A threat. And the Prophet of Regret? Well, he’s completely ingrained into the Gravemind already. He’s literally a part of the Gravemind’s tentacle. There’s not much that can be said about him, aside from the Gravemind’s quote in Halo 3: “You are food.” Just some random observations I noticed. Feel free to nitpick or add on. Halo 2 rocks!
I guess with regret you could say his deep implantation into the gravemind shows how deluded he always was with the covenant in the first place, and what arbiter might have become if he continued to follow that path? I dunno your whole analogy with puppets could kind of be used with all of them really, Because i’ve always kind of seen this whole affair as a morbid marrionette show, like he’s condescendingly teaching the two protagonists like children.
Regret's case is even scarier when you realize that in that moment he was temporarily reanimated by Gravemind to repeat his last moments of life infront of Chief and Arbiter.
The way the gravemind manipulates everyone here is masterful, both as writing and with his skill at it. He makes them feel helpless, tossing Arbiter around and immobilizing Chief entirely, and then shows them what they need to and fills in the gaps with his own additions. He explains how the 'great journey' would really just kill him and everything else, and points out the forerunners' intent. Then, when he lets them go, they are put into places where they will do as he wants without his further prompting - Chief into High Charity, where he will continue to work towards his goal, what the gravemind wants, and Arbiter to the war zone of the brutes and elites, where he also does what the gravemind wants: stopping the brutes from activating the ring, as that makes Arbiter think the others will be left behind.
Ugh, it's interactions with both Chief and Arbiter are disturbing but humorous respectively. With Chief, it makes sure to just hold onto him, but when you see up close, it's literally just constantly wrapping itself around his helmet occasionally. Only ONE tentacle is used to hold onto him, but you can see several others snaking its way around him. With Arbiter it's playing a juggling act to hold onto him and uses far more tentacles just to keep him still. If Halo 2 had been a far darker game than intended, I could only imagine how horrifyingly invasive those tendrils could be; yanking at limbs, holding onto them in death grips that clearly show the limbs could tear them a part at any given moment, the constriction being much tighter and more noticeable. Everything the Gravemind could have been, a fearsome being of time that wanted to consume everything around it.
The gravemind had to hold them in place, and had... some respect, at least, for Chief. It keeps him upright and facing the battle, answers the question of Cortana, and so on. Similarly, Chief has no wish to make more enemies, and as such would rather at the very least not make the flood and the gravemind hate them more than it already may. The gravemind says, after all, that he is correct from the both of them. However, with Arbiter, it doesn't have as much respect - Arbiter knows what it is but is wrong as to what to do, and would kill it without even knowing, so the gravemind twists him about semi-aimlessly. Sure, both of them are struggling and would rather be freed, but it does at least want them staying there for the talk. It's also notable that when it pulls them back, both Chief's and Arbiter's shields activate, showing that it's squeezing them tighter there, to the point of damage.
Yeah. If the flood didn’t gain the intelligence and the memories of everyone it consumed it would just be another zombie equivalent. But when you remember it just grows and becomes stronger and smarter as it consumes. Until it is literally able to use telekinesis and neural physics. It’s crazy.
People have apparently complained about Gravemind (or, after seeing a comment using such, as I will now call him, "Grapevine") being too ugly... to that I say, "he can never be too ugly. He is meant to be essentially an Eldritch Abomination."
Scorponox93 It's not like its a mass of millions of bodies smashed together or anything. No lets keep the low res dragonfly worm! At least this actually looks like what it is supposed to be.
Greyjack Da Barbarian he doesn't look like that either, fungi are basically the absorbed mass of everything the eat thorough which sometimes includes animals and dead plants, they still look nothing like what they eat, your crap also doesn't look at all like what you eat and it's the same principle. And what's the point of making a high res design if it's going to ruin it? it's just like the cinematic in general, they may look very pretty, but the SFX (specially dust and fire) like 2D gifs pasted on top
Scorponox93 The flood are not fungi, Scorponox. They don't just eat sentient life, they assimilate it into their collective. Once enough life forms have been collected, their intelligence and biomass (bodies) combine to become a Gravemind. You'd know this if you actually played the games or read the lore.
Animeaddict9485 2001 Impressive that he didn't puke his guts up what with the smell and being dragged around by those ghastly tentacles. Then again, he must have a pretty strong stomach having been at the sharp end of a decades long war of racial cleansing and genocide against Humanity.
My favorite halo cutscene of all time. So many archetypal allusions, so much packed in here. When you realize the Gravemind is the wisest, most knowledgeable, and in effect, the most intelligent organism in existence, it really changes your outlook on the halo story line. Looks like I already commented this a year ago 😂
This thing used to be a being known as a Precursor, an ultimately powerful and god-like entity. However, through hundreds of thousands of years through corruption and loneliness, it turned into a pile of flesh. This thing started, and ended life several times.
I love this scene for multiple reasons , it introduced the gravemind ( yeah , I know it's obvious ) and it shows the mentality of all the factions in this trilogy.. The chief is humanity's determination to survive evens that are completely overwhelming to them , the arbiter and the prophet are the covenant's blind faith , the gravemind Is the ultimate will of the flood to , not only survive , but stabbing everyone in the back for it's own benefit and without any morality. As for penitent tangent , it's harder to tell .
@@dooplon5083 Yeah, you CAN tell the motivations of the forerunners based on Penitent. I was too lazy at to develop my though further at that moment lol Penitent represents the same goals as Guilty Sparks examples - A reclaimer? Here? At last! We have much to do if we want to control this outbreak ! - Penitent - The flood is spreading, we must hurry ! - Sparks The major difference of course, is how Penitent fucked up is objective pretty badly. But besides that, they both give a lot of importance to protocoles, just like forerunner society is very much based on order ( The Mantle, casts system).
Penitent wants the flood ‘contained’, thus he wants Chief to activate the ring. The growl from gravemind toward Penitent, ‘this one is containment (growl)’ shows the animus he has for the oracle due to the fact it’s objective is to destroy the flood, and by extension Gravemind
Playing through this as a teen, I simply could not comprehend the depth of character of the grave-mind; and the consequential elegance of the dialogue of this scene. Simply beautiful.
Gravemind not only does sounds and looks scary, but after reading quite a few comments on this video you can realize how much deeply scarier it is understanding the context of the situation, as well as start noticing those little details such as the child voice
I'm imagining him in the snow of Installation 04B now. Building a snowman and maybe making snow angels, calling them his little snow believers. ...A religion formed around snow and ice... Interesting thought.
Harvin Dhillon Gravemind took In Amber Clad when Keyes brought it into the Quarantine Zone to get the index (and then basically abandoned it when she was captured). He basically sent the Chief and the Arbiter on a mission to keep them busy so he would easily be able to get it (so he could get himself to High Charity). You can even see In Amber Clad near the library while playing the Quarantine Zone mission. But yeah, the reddish tint, I'm not sure.It might be because he is an actual living organism (an evolved Flood "brain" form), as opposed to the things the Flood takes over and infects.
James Romer well that doesn't exactly make sense since the Gravemind is the combination of hundreds of bodies infected by the Flood, so it is the same thing, like say if a combat form outlives its usefullness as a combatant, it will be consumed and molded into the Gravemindes whole being, that is one reason i suppose why Regret is a part of him, because the Flood infected him after the Masterchief killed him and then since his body was to frail to use as a combat form they brought him to the over all mass of the Gravemind and molded him in, most infected with the flood would be turned into a carrier form, but Regret had information the Gravemind could use to his advantage so he molded him into his being.
***** The Flood are able to control ships (like in Halo CE, where the Flood were working on repairing the Pillar of Autumn and the Truth and Reconciliation for their own use), so Gravemind was able to use the ship and all its components. It's the same way they can use Pelicans, Warthogs, etc..
343 makes the grave mind look like it really should: a massive sentient pile of congealed corpses. Halo community instantly rejects because it's not bungie. If you read the books like I have you'd appreciate the little things that were added to the graphics
LateNightGaming Microsoft published, 343 (mainly) and some other companies helped out. The fault with the servers lies with 343, not with Microsoft. Lol, 343 is such a pathetic company.
gh0s7walk3r Gravemind speaks in trochees, not iambs. Iambs sound more like human speech and we naturally talk that way, but trochees are the opposite. Writers and poets use trochaic meter to give words an ominous feel. The most famous example of trochaic meter being "double, double, toil and trouble".
Am I the only one who wishes that 343 and Blur would make a small scene of the conversation between Cortana and the Gravemind? I read it in one of the books, can't remember what it is called. But that conversation was menacing and so shocking. My jaw dropped so many times because of how Gravemind took his toll on Cortana and broke her down. I also think Blur should remake the cutscenes for Halo 3. I really want to see that happen, it would be a joy to watch.
There is a very small scene after the campaign (you might have to beat it on legendary but I’m not sure) where gravemind is beginning to probe Cortana. This comment is over 4 years old but eh. Figured I’d respond
Anyone else notice in "The Prisoner" audio logs that the harbinger seems to say a very specific line that the grave mind uses? Here at around the 1:10 mark the gravemind says, "I shall talk and you shall listen" In The Prisoner audio log number 5, the harbinger interrogates a UNSC marine or soldier and says the same line. She even says this right after sympathizing with the prisoner by saying she knows all too well what it's like to be punished for sins not her own. Seems like there's some heavy allusion to the Precursors here
+Audric Noakes Ingressive growling. Breathe in whilst talking. Then, as you would open your throat and stress your chords to talk deply normally, do the same thing. Over time, with practice, you should achieve the gurgles, growls and groans in his voice. This is how Dee Bradley Baker achieved this in the original recording, and those groans and growls in his voice were actually produced by him as he talked, not added in later. You can see it in the 'behind the scenes' clip for Halo 2 with all of the actors speaking into microphones.
It's cool how it shows the graveminds intelligence because he anticipated that Truth would have the icon, but also planned for chief to fail by sending Arby to the control room. Also, I wish they animated the Arbiter struggling more in the beginning, like he did before.
One of my favorite scenes. It helps portray the seriousness of Master Chiefs and the Arbiter's situations. Adds a sense of realism in a fictional world. As for those who have problem with how the gravemind looks, have you ever heard of retroactive continuity? This is the halo series. It was eventually bound to happen.
We need Penitent Tangent to run the CDC.
Considering he neglected his ring and it turned out like that, I’d say he’s already running it.
Wipe out all life in order to prevent the spread of coronavirus...yeah, that ought to do it.
@@GiantRogueWave Well, if it works...
@@SnowEspeon
"They called him a madman... And what he predicted came to pass."
Crimson Dynamo ...but only a human can activate Halo’s countermeasures though... Oohhh! You’re saying everything’s shit and they did nothing was done for two months because the administration lacks the humanity to try! Well hey, maybe we can just turn to the navy for some humanity like in Halo? Oh wait... didn’t the administration just fire someone for exactly that? Yes. Yes, they did.
Halo 2: Dragonfly-looking plant Muppet
Halo 2 anniversary: The Nope-Monster from Planet Fuck-that-shit.
LOL! Nice!
That is brilliant! XD
Looks like a torn up penis if you ask me.
To me in the original he looked like a very pissed off Venus Flytrap with tentacles
THOMTWINZ Bit of a fun fact: The Gravemind from Halo 2 Anniversary looks more like his original concept art.
I like how the Gravemind shudders after saying "Containment"
He knows this “containment” means his death. I love how aware of everything the Gravemind is.
It’s due to the forerunners, they are the only ones to actually contain the flood as the flood can only be contained, never wiped.
It's more like it's saying it in disgust
I think it shook with anger really
Why does he do it with MC tho? Does it remind him of somebody ( maybe Prometheans - machine and nerve ) .
"Relax...I'd rather not piss this thing off"
Man I love how chill my dude Chief is in the face of pure evil
He's actually quite terrified though, which in itself is a testament to the Spartan training he underwent. That he can stare his greatest fear in the face and just retain a level of calm and collected that has rarely ever been both seen and comes off as completely believable.
Bella Luna Which book explained this
@@Krosstic Explains what? The Master Chief being afraid of the Flood? Or Chief's intense training?
Him being afraid of the gravemind, cause I’ve read fall of reach and am almost done with The Flood but in both books it doesn’t mention him being scared of the flood.
@@Krosstic I believe it's The Flood, I haven't read the book myself, but apparently there's a part in one of the earlier books that tells about an encounter where Master Chief is attacked by a Flood form while trying to detonate the PoA's reactor core.
I think you can find out more about it in a video I do believe is titled "How the Gravemind(or was it Flood?) almost killed the Master Chief"
_I will forever love how the Gravemind basically just puts on a puppet show for Chief and the Arbiter lmao_
Video Games will never be this cool again. That's sad.
Except he kept the prophet semiconscious
Or not…
@@citizenvulpes4562
You can thank capitalism for that
art doesn't make money
prolefeed does
This is the most cannonically correct version of gravemind, it is just a sentient mass of decaying corpses. The original looked like a fly trap, or a bean stalk lol.
It looked like the alien plant from the musical Little Shop of Horrors, now it looks badass.
+Isaiah Phillip Fun Fact: During Halo 2's production, Bungie's staff and fans jokingly called the Gravemind the "Little Shop of Horrors Reject".
Devyat nine I respect your opinion
True, didn't like the flytrap design...
Jeik Jonk it looked like a giant booger
Gravemind is without question one of my favorite Villains of all time; a hyper-intelligent, poetic and philosophical eldritch abomination whose very body is formed from the corpses of his fallen enemies.
I am fascinated by that Gravemind. A collection of thousands of Flood parasites with thousands of minds each containing intelligence to form a beast that can think beyond "kill kill kill".
@@wolfhurricane897 Like necromorphs, but cool instead of scary.
SPAKELDORF I do think the grave mind is cool it’s up there as my second favourite hive mind the nids from warhammer takes first because whilst the grave mind is smart and the hive mind is powerful it’s no we’re near the as powerful or as smart as the nids one plus the gravy mind can be destroyed but the nids hive mind can’t be destroyed because unlike the gravy mind it has no physical presence of its own plus it’s sheer Size affects real space driving people mad , bending reality, prevention of long range communication and travel just bye exciting in the same area that area being anywhere between a Solar system to a entire sector of space.
Inquisitor Thomas I will say the nids are immensely more powerful purely because of how dangerous and and how many of them there are the grave mind has intelligence on them I mean every thing that gets turned into a flood it’s knowledge gets added to the hive mind In fact when a ton a beings get added it can fix and operate ships and turn an ai that was built to terminate them over to there side
HEART xw ture it can get get very smart I agree there however it dose need to infect other thing to do so nids just don’t need to do that however like you said the flood can use technology like space ships if they figure out how but this also shows they are planet bound with out the aid of higher intelligent life that has access to space ships tyrands just grow spaceships
The fact the Gravemind could hear Cortana _inside Chief's helmet_ is such a nice touch. It shows that the Flood didn't just mindlessly consume the Forerunners, but learned and developed to counter their attempts at destroying them. Which means the Gravemind had either dealt with their technology at one point, learned how it worked from the marines they infected, or had an organ that sensitive to sound.
All of which are pretty damn freaky.
Well, consider that every Gravemind inherits the knowledge of those that came before (somehow)
@@toastedjawa3620 They inherited that ability from the precursors
@@doomfan8603 I know that part. I don't understand how it works tho other than space-magic tech.
@@toastedjawa3620 That's the point. No one understands how it really works, I think it's called neural physics and it believes everything in the universe is alive, changing and molding throughout the experiences it lives through. The precursors are a god-like species, and neural physics could simply be a more advanced/accurate way of seeing the universe. After all, if we showed a guy 500 years in the past atoms, they would be either laughing or shocked.
@@doomfan8603 you're not telling me anything I did not already know.
Took me a minute to figure out why he said "I am a monument to all your sins".
Do share
Yes please share
Same here.
The sin I believe the gravemind is referring to is their pride. Their arrogance is literally spitting them in the face with the recycled corpses of their own friends and allies. Or you know, something along those lines.
And here I thought it was my search history given form
This scene was never as scary as it should have been because of the graphical limitations of the period. Now however. The flood are no longer just a nuisance. They seem genuinely terrifying.
Hell yes.
TheActiveAssault are you saying that you didn't shit yourself in halo CE when the flood first showed up like holy shit that crap was terrifying
The very concept of the flood scared me shitless from day one, a unrelenting tide of death and corruption picking the galaxy clean of life.
+Aidan Webb I have never actually gotten past the mission in halo 3, the one where you saved cortana, the flood just scares the crap outta me
Aidan Webb damn straight. If you read some of the flood vs threads on some more detail/calc oriented forums like Spacebattles you can learn just how deadly the little bastards are. Seriously they stomp like 90% of the versus debates they're put in through sheer virulence, tenacity, and malicious cunning. If you were to throw a single flood form at, say, Coroscaunt the entire Galaxy would be Flood in under a week.
I wasn't comfortable with the gravemind before
and now I'm REALLY not comfortable with the gravemind
He looks amazing!
They dropped the Little Shop of Horrors look. :(
***** Got your ass kicked in HALO 3, and (by extension of what the Chief is a culmination of) by the Forerunners. They won in the end.
***** im a psycho, if you have meat i will follow and kill those who make fun of you and your "tentacles"
***** say gravemind what did you do to the monitor i thought he had a deep, deep voice did you play catch with him or something?
"This installation has a successful utilization record of 1.2 trillion simulated and 1 actual." *goosebumps*
I tried to like your comment my friend but your likes were at 117 and mine would have made it 118. I hope you understand.
Its very similar to nuclear weapons, trillions of simulations, thousands of practice, two actual.
They are ready to perform, on demand.
Also, at the time I remember playing the original game on relase and that was a bigger narrative twist than aliens being real: the casual acknowledgement that all life was sterilized from the universe before you, um, talk about existential crisis fuel. That means it could happen again, major tension.
So....when the Rings were built, tests were ran that calculated it could wipe out 1.2 trillion lives. When it was used, it took out 1 trillion instead, if I'm interpreting what he said correctly
How do you even do 1.2 trillion simulations of this procedure
"There is much talk, and I have listened. Through rock and metal and time." Glad to hear the Gravemind's musical preference. I wonder what bands he likes..
Demise of the King
+Faded Echo What kind of genre is time?
+Shrihari Hudli
Well you see, it's an ancient Forerunner genre so advanced in nature, no one is able to replicate it. Not even the developers of the games could. That or the Gravemind just sits their for a very long time with his mix tapes
Shadow of intent probably, since they’re yanno..an Halo-Themed band ;)
He is talking about the song Time After Time. "I have listened. Through rock and metal and time after time"
1:41
"Eh, stay where you are, nothing can be done until my snowman is complete
Cannot unhear.
I will never not hear that right ever again
lmfao
You some how killed my childhood
+The cranidos project lol
If you listen really closely, it almost sounds like the Gravemind's voice is made up of multiple voices. It's almost as if there is a slight echo
The Enclave and it only has one voice actor Bradley baker
morally immoral it maybe but they probably added another voice or just changed the original @ 2:37 it sounds like there’s a kids voice mixed in.
1 year later😂🤷🏻♂️
TheRandomVideosGuy 4 months later. But thats the original voice acting and was just him with no altering.
Sid .Mohorovich Well, there are multiple voices speaking here. Obviously. Perhaps they’re all his voices, but there are more than one.
Its creepy as hell
Idk why but as a kid I called Gravemind “Jimmy the Worm.”
That's it. I'm calling him that from now on
JIMMMMMMYY!!!
“Oh look! It’s JIMMY!”
Earthworm jim
Sounds like you’re crossing Earthworm Jim with Halo lmao
"This one is machine and nerve.... and has it's mind concluded.
This one is but flesh and faith, and is the more deluded."
I think he's referring to John's fearlessness and that he knows what he's doing, and the 'Vadamee is a simple fleshling who relies too heavily on his delusional faith. Reply if you agree.
+Dakota Woloschuk Or Regret and the oracle?
+AoDConnection If you were looking at it with no context then, yeah I can see that. Gravemind is literally holding each of them in his face as he says this to them.
"Kill me or release me parasite but do not waist my time with talk" oooooooooh. The Gravemind got roasted!
Gravemind got bars 💯
who else thinks that they should make movies using this type of cgi
Hopefully they consider it for The Last of Us film. I am really not comfortable with a live action version, rather than just translate the aesthetics and cutscenes from the game medium to the film medium.
Damon242 I don't think it will be considered for The Last of Us. And I don't want that film to be CG. I think it'd work a lot better using live action. I do wish it was being made into a television series rather than a film, though.
I dunno man. Sometimes it looks like miniatures from old movies. Like I thought the Gravemind was playing with action figures at some points. Not sure if I like it.
HiIeric117 haha it is CGI.. still not real life XD so of course it will look fake in some areas
El Duderino not to mention that the plot of last of us is soooo generic, i can name 8 zombie stories off the top of my head that have the same.. exact.. plot
My favourite part is when the Gravemind states in regards to the oracle and the Forerunners super-weapon; “this ones containment...”, and then shivers in rage and disgust.
Through this one little yet profound detail you can see how sentient the Gravemind truly is, he wants to prolong the existence of his species as much as any other species in the Halo universe, even ours. He knows what the Halo weapon is capable of, what it will do to the Flood, and for that he holds nothing short of pure loathing and resentment for its very purpose.
God I just love how much personality the Gravemind has (considering he’s made up of billions of personalities, what else could you think...but you get me), so great of a sentience, not just a zombie form that requires flesh for simple sustenance
i always thought it was his disgust of the "great Journey" seeing as it was all lies and he knew just how slimy Regret was.
but you might be right
I remember people saying the flood are just another space parasitic infection which at its core is just zombies, but this scene actually has a bigger impact the more you think of it.
A viral zombie outbreak is seen as base at best in games and movies, spread the plague through sheer force and domination and the creatures they usually make are dumber than rocks, no spatial awareness and no thought save consuming.
This scene shows that the flood are on a much scarier scale as they are able to not only adapt but forge alliances when needed, that's an intelligence that goes beyond even some of the species in Halo.
As if that weren't enough in a novel of the Halo universe the forerunners 'captured' a gravemind of a similar caliber to this one and much like this one talked about its race and it's intentions with the arrogance of knowing it will succeed even as they built the halo rings, if that weren't enough the gravemind could explain in vivid detail how its infection process worked and every single person that heard of it killed themselves out of pure fear.
Say what you want about the flood as a nuisance but they brought a new meaning to the term; infection
Are you referring to the first Gravemind, the Primordial?
@@toastedjawa3620 Which wasn't a gravemind at all, but was the creatures that became the flood
@@jt2249 I could be wrong and will double check, but I'm pretty sure it was the first gravemind.
@@toastedjawa3620 While it did eventually become the first gravemind in a sense, the primordial in and of itself was not the flood to begin with
@@jt2249 obviously not to begin with. It was a corrupted precursor that served as the first gravemind
" Fate had us meet as foes. But this ring shall make us brothers! "
And by brothers he meant brothers in combined flesh and assimilation.
I think more along the lines of seeing the same thing as it did. combined flesh and assimilation would have simply made it more well simply it. The Grave mind likely just wanted them too see in the same line of thinking it did and stop the ring from going off. thus brothers.
"We trade one villain for another."
Like it or not, neither the flood nor the sentients want the rings to go off.
"Do not shoot, but listen! Let me lead you safely to OUR foe. Only you can halt what he has set in motion."
nothing is more badass than a philosopher god-like alien devil XD
Friendly Engineer Hail, Stormcloak!
Captures and holds my complete attention every time
He’s one of a kind for sure. The way they made his words flow is like a damn poem. One of the best plot moments in any video game ever
Daniel Hatcher trochaic heptameter
He's had plenty of time to think, that's for sure
"People don't want a halo 3 anniversary"
1:47
yea I don't get that, yes the lighting and environments look good in 3 still but look at the character models and tell me they look good. also imagine if the environments and lighting look good back then imagine what we can do now
Halo 3 anniversary for next gen, not Xbox1.
As long as it is done by blur studios I’m fine with it
We need it
The graphics look good until you look at things too close up.
"And you know nothing about containment!"
- 2401 Penitent Tangent, the monitor who lost containment 5 minutes after the Forerunners left
Gravemind: "This is not your grave! But you are welcome in it." "I... I am a monument to all your sins!" "There is much talk, and I have listened..... through rock, and metal, and time. Now I shall talk and YOU shall listen!" "Silence fills the empty grave, now that I am gone. But my mind is not at rest.... for more questions linger on. I will ask and YOU will answer." And my favorite of the two riddles I know of what he says: "Child of my enemy why have you come? I offer no forgiveness; a father's sins (Forerunners), passed to his sons (Humanity)." "Of course you came for her (Cortana).... we exist together now; two corpses in one grave."
I love the gravemind as a villain ❤
He's one of my favorite antagonists of all time! I love how his catchy deep voice flows with his riddles.
Schande the Reaper is there a chance to learn such amazing writing?
@@mrXcrowley31 and corpses, in the case of the gravemind
Ken narville I mean in halo wars 2 the flood is alive and kicking on the ark soo maybe
I remembered watching a video about how he got his poetic voice and personality from the people he infested
Just a theory I believe
"Fate had us meet as foes, but this ring will make us, brothers."
I love this quote from the gravemind, and he was right about it too, till we figured out he just used chief as bait to infect high charity.
That statement can also be seen as a sinister statement that once he succeeds, they'll be brothers since they will be one with the infection some day.
You didn't see that coming?
Melissa Waterman I don’t know if the gravemind knew that the great schism was taking place, and came to the assumption that sending chief into high charity would cause enough chaos so it could effectively infect high charity without being contained.
I came here expecting the original Gravemind in HD.
While I was not disappointed, I am now terrified.
Gravemind: I? I am a monument, to all your sins
Chief: Hi a monument to all your sins, I'm chief.
Master Dad.
Dad-117
Kelly: we're outnumbered, Chief, what do we do???
Chief: hi outnumbered, I'm dad.
Fred: why are you like this?
Gravemind: Listen here you little shit
@@xXBraind3dXx I read this in the Gravemind's voice
@@HOLDENPOPE _listen here you little shit_
Say what you will about Halo 5, but I think Halo 2 Anniversary's art style is the best it's ever been. Amazing combination of old Bungie art and 343's own direction.
Horse Puncher I totally agree
I still think the classic Elites, Brutes, Grunts, and Jackels look better in classic mode.
It looks nice, but halo's lost it's indentiiy Halo isn't halo anymore.
yeah halo, ended with reach. and chief ended with 3. halo is not halo, its now a mediocre shooter
NonsensicalVids well technically it began with Reach, lol
The juxtaposition of how hideous the remastered Gravemind is and how eloquently he speaks is fantastic.
Sara J All these flavors and you chose to be salty.
MaestroRigale Salty with a hint of bitter fuckin man child tears
“Those who built this place knew what they Wrought”
Honestly my favourite line here, it just sends shivers and chills down me.
I think I heard a child's voice speaking in unison with the Gravemind. That honestly is the scariest thing of this.
Watching this and then thinking about the campaign of Halo 5... The level of dialogue and story telling isn't even remotely comparable, the series is a shell of its former self.
byt it is tho the original trilogy with more direct than 343s
In contrast , the character development in the newest halo is better then before.
Vincent Bédard What character development?
@101731267720279562759 The relationship between diverse character ( chief and Cortana ,Lasky)
Vincent Bédard So just Chief and Cortana? I'd say they got a lot more development in each of the original games. Yea Cortana with all the AI's is something but that's pretty much it.
Then there's the whole thing that they introduced(into the main games anyway) like 5-6 spartans who received little to no development and literally could of been nameless NPCs and the story would be exactly the same. Even Buck had no purpose.
2:36
Omfg a childs voice in gravemind.
a womans voice, not child. Probably from the female UNSC soldiers that turned into flood and got absorbed into thr gravemind
+Densel Moore no it sounds more like a child
most likely children and women mixed with men. it is a mixed amalgamation of organic beings.
But were would the gravemind be able to find childs on delta halo? The female marine makes more sense.
Vincent Bédard The gravemind predates the UNSC and covenant ever showing up on delta halo. it's probably been there pretty much from the time of the forerunners. and it would have been infecting and assimiliating men, women, and children from that time. the halo rings themselves only kill the food they eat. so the gravemind would have just gone into hibernation. and with no way to actually leave the halo ring, it pretty much couldn't do anything.
When your friend is talking and the teacher is behind him
“Relax, I’d rather not piss this thing off”
I never noticed that penitent tangent actually has a pupil of sorts, you can see it’s a lighter dot that moves around where he’s supposedly looking
Also the way even something as horrendous as the gravemind still shudders at the thought of “containment” is a very good touch to show the contempt the flood has for the halo array and the forerunners as a whole. 2:13
I can't believe it, everyone has their own opinion but how can anyone hate this design of the Gravemind? Some people are never happy. It's perfect down to the slightest detail, it is at it's most basic level, millions and millions of dead bodies smoshed and squashed together to create a gigantic being who controls smaller flood. It is meant to be a disgusting/awesome looking beast. This is the perfect Gravemind, far better then his original look.
Iblis wtf, the nostalgia if the giant plant monster? From what I can tell all they've done is significantly improve the design
@@Discolittle x2
"everyone has their own opinion". Correct.
*Proceeds to act like their preference of the new art is fact*
Alright, calm down there, buddy. It's okay if people like one giant sock monster over the other. I like aspects from both, but ultimately prefer the look of the original. The wider face and lack of the toothy mouth (to me it looks corny) is why I'm a fan of the old over the new one.
I hate how disgusting it looks, but that makes it all the better
@@PANCAKEMINEZZ the old one looked like a fly trap plant lmao
I can't believe their are people in the comments complaining about the gravemind looking "too ugly" when its SUPPOSED to look that way..-_-
Halo fans can be annoying sometimes haha
LateNightGaming Can be? More like are some of the worst types of fans out there. I'm a die hard Halo fan, and even I can admit that I get unreasonably mad about nothing all the time. It's like all someone has to do is say: "Fuck 343i" and it's the Great Fucking Schism all over again.
Buwx Tator That happens with all fans.
Hassan Henry they're probably expecting something cute or something that looks like a green flower. You know if they do not like the new design if you play Halo 2 Anniversary you can instantly change the graphics back to the old ones if you want to feel more nostalgic.
Hassan Henry I agree with you the grave mind should look absolutely hideous and probably smell as bad as well I mean because it should be a pile of all the existing creatures it absorbed on whichever planet it was on but to me the grave mind looks like a giant form of John Carpenters the thing would you agree
"I shall talk. You shall listen." - Harbinger
''This one is machine and flesh - and its mind is concluded.''
I love how the Gravemind refers to Chief as ''it'', because of his augmentations, perhaps?
Sort of. It also refers to the Arbiter as “it”. im sure the Gravemind knows their respective species but being a parasite made of multiple species and beings it does not discriminate based on gender nor race.
@@f1ringfed your thinking too much like 343. Bungie used Master chief and the arbiter as vessels for the player to experience the story. Bungie also loved to make bad ass stuff and lore was just a side effect. There was a forerunner tank level planned that got dropped before they had time as well as a forerunner boss fight. Having a big biomass refer to things in the 3rd person just sounds cooler.
Like the soul reason we fall damage is out and spartans can jump from orbit is because it was cool to watch chief blow up a ship with a bomb. Non of that was planned. Just making cool shit up. Marty was there as the cool nerd to make the story work but their no nonsense lore crap and that's why the bungie games had better stories then the 343 games. No sitting trough 4 hours of exposition. Just shit relevent to the plot and why you committing genocides
"Through rock, and metal, and time..."
Now we know it has a taste in music.
+Jose Suarez
His mixtapes arent even on fire fam
I was looking for this comment lol
@@gandalfurisotherworldly7909 I was too
"Through rock and metal and time..."
*Cue electric guitar solo.*
2:36 - Did I hear a kid's voice in there? Sounded like a tortured soul.
I heard that aswell man!
Oh god that is haunting.
Lucas Kane I do think I can hear a woman's voice buried underneath the primary voice layer, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was a child's voice.
I did too. It's absolutely haunting.
Dark Zhiro The sound design in this whole cut scene is honestly astonishing, the detail is meticulous
Y’know, watching this again, I see some interesting theming I had missed. There is symmetry in how the characters are all bound and how they act as individuals.
The Arbiter is bound at the hands and feet, tumbling upside down as the Gravemind holds him. He’s restrained almost like a puppet, with the Gravemind pulling the strings, mirroring how the Arbiter and his kin were manipulated and betrayed by the Prophets. The Arbiter has no control of his path, here. He is a product of those in power, and he holds no power on his own. This of course changes after Halo 2, but it’s a clever visual metaphor.
Master Chief, in contrast, is completely wrapped by the tentacles; he has no mobility, and was dragged in by his feet. This is because, if given the chance, Chief would most likely attempt to either escape or destroy the Gravemind. He has a set goal, he has conviction, and he has the cunning to put a plan into action. As the Gravemind says, chief “is machine and nerve, and has his mind concluded.” By restraining him in this way, he’s preventing a threat from escaping.
This is also a similar case to 2401 Penitent Tangent, who is essentially tied to a leash. The Gravemind can’t infect a machine (well, there’s the logic plague, but that’s different), so he has him tied up. The Monitor can still move, to a degree, but he is still bound. Like the Chief, Penitent Tangent also has his mind concluded - that is, he has a single goal, and allows for no alternatives. A threat.
And the Prophet of Regret? Well, he’s completely ingrained into the Gravemind already. He’s literally a part of the Gravemind’s tentacle. There’s not much that can be said about him, aside from the Gravemind’s quote in Halo 3: “You are food.”
Just some random observations I noticed. Feel free to nitpick or add on. Halo 2 rocks!
Spot on. I very much enjoyed reading this.
I guess with regret you could say his deep implantation into the gravemind shows how deluded he always was with the covenant in the first place, and what arbiter might have become if he continued to follow that path? I dunno your whole analogy with puppets could kind of be used with all of them really, Because i’ve always kind of seen this whole affair as a morbid marrionette show, like he’s condescendingly teaching the two protagonists like children.
Regret's case is even scarier when you realize that in that moment he was temporarily reanimated by Gravemind to repeat his last moments of life infront of Chief and Arbiter.
The way the gravemind manipulates everyone here is masterful, both as writing and with his skill at it. He makes them feel helpless, tossing Arbiter around and immobilizing Chief entirely, and then shows them what they need to and fills in the gaps with his own additions. He explains how the 'great journey' would really just kill him and everything else, and points out the forerunners' intent. Then, when he lets them go, they are put into places where they will do as he wants without his further prompting - Chief into High Charity, where he will continue to work towards his goal, what the gravemind wants, and Arbiter to the war zone of the brutes and elites, where he also does what the gravemind wants: stopping the brutes from activating the ring, as that makes Arbiter think the others will be left behind.
Ugh, it's interactions with both Chief and Arbiter are disturbing but humorous respectively.
With Chief, it makes sure to just hold onto him, but when you see up close, it's literally just constantly wrapping itself around his helmet occasionally. Only ONE tentacle is used to hold onto him, but you can see several others snaking its way around him.
With Arbiter it's playing a juggling act to hold onto him and uses far more tentacles just to keep him still.
If Halo 2 had been a far darker game than intended, I could only imagine how horrifyingly invasive those tendrils could be; yanking at limbs, holding onto them in death grips that clearly show the limbs could tear them a part at any given moment, the constriction being much tighter and more noticeable. Everything the Gravemind could have been, a fearsome being of time that wanted to consume everything around it.
The gravemind had to hold them in place, and had... some respect, at least, for Chief. It keeps him upright and facing the battle, answers the question of Cortana, and so on. Similarly, Chief has no wish to make more enemies, and as such would rather at the very least not make the flood and the gravemind hate them more than it already may. The gravemind says, after all, that he is correct from the both of them. However, with Arbiter, it doesn't have as much respect - Arbiter knows what it is but is wrong as to what to do, and would kill it without even knowing, so the gravemind twists him about semi-aimlessly. Sure, both of them are struggling and would rather be freed, but it does at least want them staying there for the talk. It's also notable that when it pulls them back, both Chief's and Arbiter's shields activate, showing that it's squeezing them tighter there, to the point of damage.
The dude who voices Klaus on American Dad did the voice for Gravemind. Nice range.
Holy fuck, are you serious?
+Quote yeah he is
Tartarus did 9/11 Your username is hilarious oh jesus
He also voiced General RAAM in Gears of War 1.
He also voices all of the Clones in the Clone Wars series.
Chief: I think i just threw up in my helmet
Arbiter: "My eyes are melting!"
PandaBear Gaming gotta feel bad for Vel
Chief is sealed head to toe with life support oxygen system.
The arbiter on the other hand. Rip him
Arbiter: Wuss.
1:02 to 1:19
Kids talking to their parents after they've grown up.
The Gravemind is the reason why the flood becomes extremely dangerous. The Gravemind has to be one of my favorite villains of all time.
Yeah. If the flood didn’t gain the intelligence and the memories of everyone it consumed it would just be another zombie equivalent. But when you remember it just grows and becomes stronger and smarter as it consumes. Until it is literally able to use telekinesis and neural physics. It’s crazy.
Yes. Whats worse than a zombie apocalypse is one that learns from each life taken 😨
People have apparently complained about Gravemind (or, after seeing a comment using such, as I will now call him, "Grapevine") being too ugly... to that I say, "he can never be too ugly. He is meant to be essentially an Eldritch Abomination."
yeah, but he used to be a cool eldritch abomination, now it's just Audrey on steroids
Scorponox93 It's not like its a mass of millions of bodies smashed together or anything. No lets keep the low res dragonfly worm! At least this actually looks like what it is supposed to be.
Greyjack Da Barbarian he doesn't look like that either, fungi are basically the absorbed mass of everything the eat thorough which sometimes includes animals and dead plants, they still look nothing like what they eat, your crap also doesn't look at all like what you eat and it's the same principle.
And what's the point of making a high res design if it's going to ruin it? it's just like the cinematic in general, they may look very pretty, but the SFX (specially dust and fire) like 2D gifs pasted on top
Scorponox93 The flood are not fungi, Scorponox. They don't just eat sentient life, they assimilate it into their collective. Once enough life forms have been collected, their intelligence and biomass (bodies) combine to become a Gravemind. You'd know this if you actually played the games or read the lore.
TalenkauenTV you don't know what an "analogy" is, do you?
Man, imagine the smell 😖
Lucky for the Chief that he's got a helmet on. Not so lucky for the Arbiter.
Animeaddict9485 2001 Impressive that he didn't puke his guts up what with the smell and being dragged around by those ghastly tentacles. Then again, he must have a pretty strong stomach having been at the sharp end of a decades long war of racial cleansing and genocide against Humanity.
Ben Moak probably smells like Indian food.
Poor Arbiter :(
KomodoGuy 4972 the Arbiter is that Elite. 2401 Penitent tangent is the one besides Regret that is unlucky as you put it
Went from “little shop of horrors” to absolutely terrifying
When your teacher says "the bell doesn't dismiss you, I do"
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Anyone else notice that the gravemind growled when it said the word containment 😓
Yup. Even though he has been captive for hundreds of millenia, his hatred of the Forerunners hasn't died out one bit.
He’s pretty much a disease, what do you expect? He’s going to hate even the thought of any sort of “containment”.
I mean how would you feel if someone has taken away your only food source
Tangent just roasted Regret...
I wonder what happened to tangent.
Kaiser Franz Josef I yeah..
I really liked Tangent.
I think that he was released when Gravemind went to High Charity,he had no more use of him
King Derner Cousland "Released".
-Killed-
ive always love the poetry the grave mind speaks, one of my fav villains. what a line especially " I am a monument to all your sins" i feel that one
My favorite halo cutscene of all time. So many archetypal allusions, so much packed in here. When you realize the Gravemind is the wisest, most knowledgeable, and in effect, the most intelligent organism in existence, it really changes your outlook on the halo story line. Looks like I already commented this a year ago 😂
My god the gravemind sure is a lot uglier.
and a lot more detailed ;)
It feels weird to say this about something that doesn't exists, but I think he looks more realistic (as in more like a flood). :)
LateNightGaming Dude just think about if Halo 3 had this graphic overhaul...what would that flood mission look like...O_O...
***** i don't think that's fur......
...... But sexier
I am really impressed. The level of detail in the cinematic looks like a CGI movie that has a budget that's in the millions. I can't wait for this.
2:36 one of the best quotes in halo from such a powerful character.
This thing used to be a being known as a Precursor, an ultimately powerful and god-like entity. However, through hundreds of thousands of years through corruption and loneliness, it turned into a pile of flesh. This thing started, and ended life several times.
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No it was through war, remember remember forerunners tried to become God's but the Precursors punished them by turning themselves into the flood
if you listen hard enough you can hear other voices speaking in unison with his own voice.......
I think those are the bodies talking whom he consumed
Holy shit you are right if you think about it thought it is a bit hard to hear the unison.
Its because of the way the recorded his lines, they recorded 1 in a deep voice and another with a growl
I love this scene for multiple reasons , it introduced the gravemind ( yeah , I know it's obvious ) and it shows the mentality of all the factions in this trilogy.. The chief is humanity's determination to survive evens that are completely overwhelming to them , the arbiter and the prophet are the covenant's blind faith , the gravemind Is the ultimate will of the flood to , not only survive , but stabbing everyone in the back for it's own benefit and without any morality. As for penitent tangent , it's harder to tell .
Not really, with his lines here it quite clearly shows the Monitor and Forerunner's focus on destroying the flood.
@@mrXcrowley31 Well, that true. I just didn't really feel like writing twice the paragraph at the time lol There's so much more to tell then that !
@@dooplon5083 Yeah, you CAN tell the motivations of the forerunners based on Penitent. I was too lazy at to develop my though further at that moment lol Penitent represents the same goals as Guilty Sparks
examples
- A reclaimer? Here? At last! We have much to do if we want to control this outbreak ! - Penitent
- The flood is spreading, we must hurry ! - Sparks
The major difference of course, is how Penitent fucked up is objective pretty badly. But besides that, they both give a lot of importance to protocoles, just like forerunner society is very much based on order ( The Mantle, casts system).
Penitent Tangent: Follow protocol. conduct your duties, no matter the price.
Penitent wants the flood ‘contained’, thus he wants Chief to activate the ring. The growl from gravemind toward Penitent, ‘this one is containment (growl)’ shows the animus he has for the oracle due to the fact it’s objective is to destroy the flood, and by extension Gravemind
I like how Chief has one tentacle binding him, and Arbiter has one for each limb.
One of the most terrifying things about the gravemind is that it has the voices of multiple victims. You can even hear them in this cutscene.
I like how they gave the oracles that little light pupil in the center of their eye. Reminds me of wheatley from portal 2.
Yeah I just noticed that too.
Mr. Biznasty one is based on the other. Not sure which, but I'm guessing Wheatley is based on the monitors.
Considering Halo 2 came out before either of the Portal games, and the fact that there was a monitor in Halo 1 as well...
0:15
"I am a monument to all your sins."
"You don't look like a burning orphanage."
"*throws Chief* Literally fuck off."
He doesn't say that
Jakob Krebs yeeeem.tumblr.com/post/101919817985/yeeeem-monuments
******shrug* Dark humor isn't for everyone.
LOL
+shadowthehh2 Best reply ever....
I like how Chief is staying cool while he's wrapped up and The Arbitor's struggling to break free xD
Good thing Chief paid attention in herbology too...
2:15 I like how he shudders at the mention of containment, showing that even a scary creature like this can fear something.
I love 2401's "let me tell ya why that's bullshit.." moment when regret starts yapping.
Me too.
He could've added " your arguments are invalid " and it would just as awesome, if not more.
This design is actually very close to some of the original Halo 2 concept art.
Playing through this as a teen, I simply could not comprehend the depth of character of the grave-mind; and the consequential elegance of the dialogue of this scene.
Simply beautiful.
“Fate had us meet as foes,
But this ring
Will make us *BROTHERS*
Holy shit anyone remember this scene in the original. What a huge improvement jesus!!
I freaking love his voice.
Who's voice?
Well I was going to say the gravemind's. But actually all three of their voices are amazing.
Gravemind is voiced by Perry the Platypus
Literally
Gravemind not only does sounds and looks scary, but after reading quite a few comments on this video you can realize how much deeply scarier it is understanding the context of the situation, as well as start noticing those little details such as the child voice
“Until my snowmen is complete”
I can never unhear it now
I'm imagining him in the snow of Installation 04B now. Building a snowman and maybe making snow angels, calling them his little snow believers.
...A religion formed around snow and ice... Interesting thought.
does anyone find it cool and distirbing that the flood now has red blood over them, like the gravemind and flood regert seem covered in fresh blood
***** interesting theory
Harvin Dhillon Gravemind took In Amber Clad when Keyes brought it into the Quarantine Zone to get the index (and then basically abandoned it when she was captured). He basically sent the Chief and the Arbiter on a mission to keep them busy so he would easily be able to get it (so he could get himself to High Charity). You can even see In Amber Clad near the library while playing the Quarantine Zone mission.
But yeah, the reddish tint, I'm not sure.It might be because he is an actual living organism (an evolved Flood "brain" form), as opposed to the things the Flood takes over and infects.
James Romer well that doesn't exactly make sense since the Gravemind is the combination of hundreds of bodies infected by the Flood, so it is the same thing, like say if a combat form outlives its usefullness as a combatant, it will be consumed and molded into the Gravemindes whole being, that is one reason i suppose why Regret is a part of him, because the Flood infected him after the Masterchief killed him and then since his body was to frail to use as a combat form they brought him to the over all mass of the Gravemind and molded him in, most infected with the flood would be turned into a carrier form, but Regret had information the Gravemind could use to his advantage so he molded him into his being.
NukeMan1993 Ever heard of flood pure forms? They're not the same as those the flood infect.
***** The Flood are able to control ships (like in Halo CE, where the Flood were working on repairing the Pillar of Autumn and the Truth and Reconciliation for their own use), so Gravemind was able to use the ship and all its components. It's the same way they can use Pelicans, Warthogs, etc..
343 makes the grave mind look like it really should: a massive sentient pile of congealed corpses.
Halo community instantly rejects because it's not bungie.
If you read the books like I have you'd appreciate the little things that were added to the graphics
Yeah, cool, whatever.
Now when is 343 gonna get off their asses and fix the multiplayer?
***** you mean when is Microsoft gonna get off their asses and fix their pathetic dedicated servers?
MrLoneWolf009 Uh, no. I'm pretty sure the fault lies with 343 here.
***** actually the fault lies with Certain Affinity and Saber interactive.. they made the game.. 343 just published it
LateNightGaming Microsoft published, 343 (mainly) and some other companies helped out. The fault with the servers lies with 343, not with Microsoft.
Lol, 343 is such a pathetic company.
I love how the gravemind speaks in rhymes
I love how the gravemind cringes when he talks about the monitors containment
Gravemind is sooo smart...he should write a biography about his life story
Wonder how much pages about his biography XD
Many a tale has been spoken, but mine will leave you broken. Many tried to stop this fate. But all were too far and too late.
gh0s7walk3r
Almost... But that doesn't match his speech pattern.
*****
well i tried lol
gh0s7walk3r Gravemind speaks in trochees, not iambs. Iambs sound more like human speech and we naturally talk that way, but trochees are the opposite. Writers and poets use trochaic meter to give words an ominous feel. The most famous example of trochaic meter being "double, double, toil and trouble".
Am I the only one who wishes that 343 and Blur would make a small scene of the conversation between Cortana and the Gravemind? I read it in one of the books, can't remember what it is called. But that conversation was menacing and so shocking. My jaw dropped so many times because of how Gravemind took his toll on Cortana and broke her down. I also think Blur should remake the cutscenes for Halo 3. I really want to see that happen, it would be a joy to watch.
+Brian Howard The short story "Human Weakness," maybe? It focused on Cortana while she was the Gravemind's captive.
There is a very small scene after the campaign (you might have to beat it on legendary but I’m not sure) where gravemind is beginning to probe Cortana.
This comment is over 4 years old but eh. Figured I’d respond
@@SamanthaLienhard
Yep, that's the one.
I read it in an anthology novel called "Halo: Evolutions"
Also I wish they kept the credits; the music that plays is incredible. It's such a boner killer to be kicked right back to the menu
I love how the Gravemind shudders after he says "containment"
Anyone else notice in "The Prisoner" audio logs that the harbinger seems to say a very specific line that the grave mind uses?
Here at around the 1:10 mark the gravemind says, "I shall talk and you shall listen"
In The Prisoner audio log number 5, the harbinger interrogates a UNSC marine or soldier and says the same line. She even says this right after sympathizing with the prisoner by saying she knows all too well what it's like to be punished for sins not her own.
Seems like there's some heavy allusion to the Precursors here
Jeez... His mouth is the quite unnerving. I played the game on heroic and this scene screwed my perception of meat, big time.
here we see the species who is called "The Nope, Fuck that shit"
The previous Gravemind was "The Audrey the Second."
I love regret’s screams it’s justified for his character
2:15 i like the growling of the gravemind after it said containment
*Ive seen enough Hentai to see where this...*
Seriously, how have I not seen this comment yet!
Those are on the ending part with the gravemind and cortana
That was the first thing that came to my mind when I saw It xd
LegendaryWarrior because it's an outdated joke?
I've seen enough "I've seen enough hentai" comments to know where this comment is going
It's Halo, you can't tell where ANYTHING is going.
If I could have the grave minds voice for one year that would be awesome
luckily I do sound like him but hurts like hell for a while
oh hell yeah
+Audric Noakes Ingressive growling. Breathe in whilst talking. Then, as you would open your throat and stress your chords to talk deply normally, do the same thing. Over time, with practice, you should achieve the gurgles, growls and groans in his voice. This is how Dee Bradley Baker achieved this in the original recording, and those groans and growls in his voice were actually produced by him as he talked, not added in later. You can see it in the 'behind the scenes' clip for Halo 2 with all of the actors speaking into microphones.
You're going to have to explain that better, I have no idea what I'm supposed to do apart from speaking while inhaling.
It's cool how it shows the graveminds intelligence because he anticipated that Truth would have the icon, but also planned for chief to fail by sending Arby to the control room. Also, I wish they animated the Arbiter struggling more in the beginning, like he did before.
2:24 That scream tho! XD
Afterwards...
"Hey Arbiter, do you have a wet wipe?"
What for?
I miss the musical score that used to play when Gravemind says "there is still time to stop the key from turning". Also the low humming noise
"Just because you put blood and teeth on something doesn't make it scary!"
Nostalgia Critic, you are dead wrong! You are dead fucking wrong!!!
"Now I shall talk, and you shall listen!"
Proceeds to let others talk for him...
They are a part of him now.
'Now the gates been unlatched, headstones pushed aside. Corpses shift and offer room, a fate you must abide.'
One of my favorite scenes. It helps portray the seriousness of Master Chiefs and the Arbiter's situations. Adds a sense of realism in a fictional world. As for those who have problem with how the gravemind looks, have you ever heard of retroactive continuity? This is the halo series. It was eventually bound to happen.
I like the little detail where Gravemind shivers at the word 'containment'
“I? I am a monument to all your sins.”
"Relax, I'd rather not piss this thing off."
@@BananaChicken21 "Demon!"