Cooper Stuff Ep. 193 - Lil Nas X, Christian Music, and What to Expect in ‘24
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- Опубликовано: 17 дек 2023
- Rapper Lil Nas X says he may try Christian music phase. Two famous Christians reply publicly with very different responses. These two responses are extremely telling about what we can expect in the church and in the culture this coming year. The split in the American church is reaching a breaking point. We all need to be prepared so that we can pray and ask God to give us wisdom and teach us how to be a light in a dark world.
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My late mother had the best response to this phenomenon I’ve ever heard. “Quit ‘loving’ people straight to hell.” When they find themselves in hell for eternity they will wish more than anything, that someone would have told them the truth. How arrogant and selfish, to put your desire to be comfortable in the world and be liked by the world, over the souls of the lost. That is an abomination.
My old pastor used to say the same things “the church is loving people straight into hell” sadly it’s so true..
So true I'm fighting for this with my Church and Pastor because he is too " loving" and these people he is preaching to just hear that Jesus loves them and basically they can stay the same in sin...no! Not self righteous I just want people to really know Jesus and you can't do that continually loving the world and your selfish desires. God bless you all!
Done been told 🦾 Well said @cat
Of all the Christian artists out there who would have thought Skillet and Cooper would be front and center on calling out the garbage of the modern church.
And to think so many Christians were blasting skillet for going “secular” and touring with non Christian bands. Stay strong John! Keep up the Lords work!
I say this all the time lol.
I say it too!
No Cooper Stuff isn’t the one who’s getting extreme! He is actually standing up for Christ to whom we all should be taking a stand for!!!! Thank you John Cooper!!! We all should have riding up in us, RIGHTEOUS ANGER!! We all need to turn the tables in the temple!!!
John, dont grow weary. I appreciate this!
I think the problem lies in that very well meaning people have inverted the greatest commandment with the second commandment, and they have placed loving others above loving God
So true, and that takes the priority from:
"You can love people any way they want to be loved, but only as long as God is OK with it."
to:
"You can love God any way He wants to be loved, but only as long as people are OK with it."
Setting Lil Nas X's behavior aside, his message that Christianity is just one of many identities to try on is problematic all by itself.
You should’ve seen him drinking the wine and the bread he was drinking the wrath of God against himself so sad
Hello John. Amen. Keep up the good fight! Not enough Christians willing to speak the words of Christ, no matter the cost! I truly appreciate the quick Happy Birthday video you did for my grandson Cooper, when you met his mother Gabrielle, earlier this year. From Highland North Music and the Wright family with Love and Truth: Merry Christmas!!!
John Cooper bringing the 🔥 🔥 🔥
Well said John.
Tyrese has been getting loud for Christ over the last couple of months.
It's awesome to watch his fire
Your voice is so needed - keep speaking truth, brother!🙏
Preach John, love your podcast & Sword and Shield. Received your new book, ordering more. Have a Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year!! God Bless you & your family. See you in 2024 🎉❤🙏
So many are afraid to speak this truth now. Nobody wants to hurt anyones feeling. One day God will judge and its not based on if you've been nice
While it seem like every other podcast has taken off, it is nice to have a Cooper Stuff today!
Amen! The nations belong to Christ! The people of many nations hearts are returning to the Lord and to their children. Leaders better get on board or suffer the judgement of God.
Hey John !!!
Yay!!!! 🎉
This guy is rock solid. Their music was a little load for me before, I'm 57, but boy, have a repented! Love the man his ministry, and yes his music! Between Mr Cooper and Kutluss my workouts get better with them blasting in my cellar.
Totally agree with you! Merry Christmas to you and your family. Looking forward to seeing what God will do in 2024 through Cooper’s Stuff!!
John Cooper bivocational preacher of THE Bible! THE Word of GOD!🙌
Woo! What an episode! Thank you for being on fire for the Lord, John. More of this please, Church!!!
Thank u. John Cooper🙏👍
"Kiss the son" is part of their song "White Horse"
Everything you said was absolutely correct. THANK YOU for speaking out. I don’t know you personally but I am so proud of you. Again, thank you! And yeah … I guessed Lecrae …
So so good. We just continue to enable folks by softening the gospel and truth.
Love you all at Cooper Stuff and Skillet! Love that you preach Christ Kingdom and His truth. What we need today as in all timed. You always encourage and want to give it back. May God bless you this season and all days. May He make His face to shine upon you and give you peace. Merry Christmas!!
Pretty cool teaching about John the Baptist. I'd never considered that before.
Just keep doing the right thing and speaking the truth :) You are saying what we all are thinking.
Good word, John! You have my attention.
Oh my gosh! Soooo on point, John! Thank you for standing up and speaking truth about these things. God bless you!
I do have my concerns about the 2024 presidential elections, but God has better things in mind. We will win in His Name. Thank you for the episode. I hope your family, band, and you are enjoying the holidays. Merry Christmas!
Thanks for this episode, Bro. John. It is loving our neighbor to always speak the Truth in love. Always. I know we are headed to Crazytown next year. Between the release of that documentary about Christian Nationalism and the election, we need to keep ourselves in God's Word, be ready to speak when the Holy Spirit prompts us. I'm not afraid. We all have a part to play.
Man, John got to preaching in this one! Reminded me a bit of my Papa when we'd be visiting around the kitchen table and he'd start sharing what he'd been studying recently in the Bible. Good stuff! Really exhorting as well.
Fire, as usual! Thank you, John!
On 🔥 as always, John! This is so needed- we love you! Keep it up!
John, you are on fire, and it’s burning away the dross (Isaiah 1:22) that anyone may have in their minds about the true Word of God!! 🔥❤️🔥 I love watching & getting encouragement from your podcasts, and I can’t wait to see you again next year. 😊 Merry Christmas to you, Korey & the kids!
Making it clear progressive Christianity that it’s NOT Christianity is on point!!!
Great work bro!
It’s unfortunate Lecrae gets more views on his video than this one gets. Lecrae is totally correct in not treating sinners badly, and Christian’s have done quite well in DETERRING people from the faith rather than attracting them. HOWEVER, to not point out that Nas is playing a dangerous game is UNLOVING. It is ALL about your TACTIC, and the way you speak to people. You can point it out politely. It’s not an either/or situation- either you say it badly or not at all. No. You can point out that Nas is mocking God and playing a dangerous game, lovingly. If you don’t then you do not actually care about him at all. You’re basically feeding someone poison with sugar.
Good episode, as always. Your podcast are almost as good as your concerts. Just ordered WWW 23. I anticipate it being a great read.
I just got your new book today! Can't wait to read it! Keep spreading the truth! Merry Christmas 🎁🎄
Every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.
so grateful for this! Thanks to God to cooperstuff
The people in politics are a concern due to their choices encompass all lives and beliefs. Everybody is affected by these decisions good or bad.
Yes!!! Spoken with conviction, but also with love. Would really love to hear an honest response from the Christians who "just want to be light and love". I totally get where they're coming from. I want to be that too. I worry about pushing people away from the truth. But yes, Jesus spoke truth that would hurt people's feelings. We have to be willing to do that too.
So good! & Amen ‼️ My first view of this channel & I loved it. Thank you brother.
Just got my hardback copy of W3 in! Look forward to reading it... thanks for all the work you put into this!
Hey John, 60 minute podcast isn't long
Once you hit 2+ hours we can talk about long.
Too many podcasts stop too early never hitting the crescendo of the episode. I love long podcasts
Amen, John!
Amen John!! LOVE your podcasts. Thanks so much.
Thank u John on touching on Lecrae a bit. I posted similar on winter jams instagram page as his support for lil Nas has me baffled. I use to love Lecrae as his rehab album was full of humility but I don’t see it hat anymore and don’t listen to the newer music. Keep speaking truth bro. We ( myself very much included) need fellow Christ followers to hold us accountable and not comfort us IN sin. ❤
Merry Christmas brother! ❤️
So so good!!
The more Lacrae opens his mouth the more it's evident he's not on the narrow road. Theres no transformation without repentance.
Waiting for book to arrive 😊😊😊
YAAAY Cooper stuff are the best John u my role model
🔥🔥🔥 so spot on
This was so good. Praise the Lord.
So thankful for your courage in speaking the truth!
Merry Christmas!
Love you brother!!
Father God bless & keep & heal you & your loved ones always, John!!!
Lecrae also promoted Rafael Warnock in Georgia for senator and is fine with abortion
"John's Beer(d) Products" 😅
Great show!
Thank you John, keep speaking the Truth.
Amen!
Spot on ad usual!
Merry Christmas to your family and all of Skillet! I do have a serious question, WHY IS THERE NO SKILLET CHRISTMAS ALBUM!? C’mon man!
I truly appreciate you and your ministry through your podcast. I agree with most of your opinions. There is one thing that I struggle to agree with. When you were saying that we are all brothers and sisters in Christ I do struggle with those who call themselves Christians, but they use their platform to go against what scripture teaches us. On judgment day Jesus will say "Depart from me I never knew you".
SOLI DEO GLORIA
(To The Glory Of God Alone)
Father, Son & Holy Spirit
-Ronnie
A--MEN!!!! MERRY CHRISTMAS
Get it Tyrese!
Amen
Loved the book. I wasn't sure who I could get it for that would read it (it is a heavy read!) but it was excellent.
Be strong and take courage do not fear or be dismayed for the Lord your God is with you. Merry Christmas to you and your family John. God bless you!
I 100% agree with you. As a returning person to faith, I believe that a true coming to Christ/messiah comes through conviction. And as servants of Christ, we need to guide people in both love and conviction. That is what Christ did. He pointed out the sin, then lovingly said sin no more.
Agree with your observations, my husband & I are seeing this too creeping in the church. When you mention abortion or lgtbq issues/ protection of children, or unions that are now blessed, it is labeled as political or too divisive to discuss or share. We should be praying for these things and not remain silent. The gospel must be proclaimed. Yet, if we choose to be quiet & try to be establish neutrality, the gospel would not make sense, no conviction of sin, why we need a Savior, etc. We have increased our time in Word & prayer to prepare. Thank you for faithfulness to Christ.
I posted this on Facebook in January 2023.
“Our present society frames being kind as accepting sinful lifestyles and ensuring everyone ‘belongs’. But we are called to speak the truth in love.
‘Faithful are the wounds of a friend; profuse are the kisses of an enemy.’
Proverbs 27:6 ESV
Love doesn’t mean accepting wickedness in a loved one’s life. It’s graciously warning them of the danger they’re in. It’s entirely unloving to let someone drown if you can help. You wouldn’t let someone drown for fear of offending or embarrassing them. Eternal life or death is even more important. Don’t let hell be the final place they belong.”
I think they fear and respect man but really are indifferent to the Lord.
U B Rockin' the mic bro - Teach The Truth of Yahweh NO MATTER WHAT
that was really interesting, i learn a lot from your podcasts, i don't listen to lil nas x but definitely all the elements described in his music video and his comments are very contradictory to Christian values, in my own personal opinion i would say that i would be somewhere between the 2 views, not to rebuke everything but also not be ok with everything either, gotta have some sort of line somewhere
Love the episode and love the show! My only question is, I was under the understanding that Herod Antipas was a Jew. I mean, obviously he wasn’t a very observant one, but was he not king of the Jews in the way that the awful Kings in the Old Testament, Saul, books of Kings, Judges, etc would have been? Ready to be corrected if I’m wrong. Keep up the good work!
I don't want to have to say it, but it's critical. This is my first time listening to your podcast. I have been a long time listener to Skillet and have used your music in ALMOST all my street ministry endeavors. I was born and raised in a Christian home, accepted Jesus as Lord of my life at the age of six. I am a non-white woman. I say ALL that to say, that I with fear and trembling unto the Lord ask you to PLEASE slow down rebuke on Lecrae and mentioning Tyrese UNTIL you go out of your way to know something of substance regarding them.
The black community and church have lived an extremely different life in Christ than a white Christian in America. I believe you are sincere and well meaning but it's critical that you approach issues that have any hue of race involved with caution. Learn your brethren. Ask the Lord about the matter. I want to believe that you and the brothers I mentioned would get along wonderfully. But from what I'm hearing in this episode, I'm not sure it would be safe maybe even hurtful. I mean, non-whites have to know their white brothers but whites seem to not feel the need to get to know us. Point blank the Holy Spirit is sick of that. Ease up and get to know before you start dropping names.
Lil Nas X also cursed in his holiday song more than he should have
Telling a person we don’t dig mocking God is not judging. If you steal, your a thief, if you lie, your a liar. That is not judging. Taking authority away from God’s supreme judgement and tell a person they are going to hell is judging. To come to a conclusion against someone because of what they do is being judgmental. I’m done, I’m washing my hands of you forever, that’s judgment. Calling a person out is not judging a person.
One of your better efforts, John! By the way, did you know that some 25% of the Bible is about Hell. And how not to, and why you dont want to, go there! Not very "rainbows and bunnies" huh?
Lacrae would be right if Lil Nas X was repenting and like the lost son wanted to come home. Then if people were criticizing him and judging his motives that would be like the older brother of the prodigal and it would be wrong. But thats not what is going on here. He's mocking God. He's not trying to figure things out or interested in changing. He needs truth in love. I feel bad that Lacrae has this so backwards.
I remember you talking about your parents being "fire and brimstone" preachers - It's so sad to me that you've turned out the exact same way. You used to be kind
Hello my Postmill, brother from another mother… Lol
God is dividing the wheat from the tares
2 Thessalonians 3:6-15
Lecrae has addressed where he fell off and why he's back on.
"How are they to call on one in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in one of whom they have never heard? And how are they to hear without someone to proclaim him?" Romans 10:14
Unbelievers don’t realize they are not just condemned but are under the wrath of God. He cannot be mocked.
Over the target...bullseye.
You just made Tyrese Gibson more instagram followers 😂 but over all I love the show as always. More power from the Holy Ghost and the Peace of our Lord Jesus to your life sir!
At least you're speaking facts. Lecrae is a wolf
Fact of the matter, if you travel to another country, and even if your NOT A CITIZEN of that country you are still Accountable TO FOLLOW THEIR LAWS! Even if you aren’t a citizen.
No stealing your relative's wife and not killing your unborn child aren't just exclusively Christian ethics. You know who told me that? Atheists on the internet who say they don't need no Ten Commandments to know that murder and adultery are wrong.
Hey he wasn't King (nor any of Herod's sons) though he really wanted that title BUT Rome denied them all title King of the Jews. The only King of the Jews after his wicked father Herod the Great died around 1BC was truly Jesus who walked unknown among them. Great episode!!!
I'm so disappointed because I was literally hopeful that the first speaker was LaCrae. I had really hoped that he started to come around.
How about John 3:18, they are already condemned.
”He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.“
John 3:18 NKJV