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  • Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2024

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  • @kephalai
    @kephalai День назад +71

    finally a beautiful co-host!
    dan is looking great today :D

  • @CoryMT
    @CoryMT День назад +73

    breebunn was busy this weekend, first Geekenders, and now Dropped Frames.

    • @BloodyBobJr
      @BloodyBobJr День назад +8

      I'm so out of the loop on twitch I've never seen her before until geekenders, seems very lovely and that smile. I just smile when I see it, pretty infections

    • @ruibarian5187
      @ruibarian5187 18 часов назад +5

      It was pretty cool seeing her on the ol' Dodgin' Cox show.

  • @Gishater
    @Gishater 9 часов назад +7

    The show is better with 4 hosts who actually seem to enjoy making the show.

  • @SilverNuclear
    @SilverNuclear 21 час назад +9

    This is the longest I've heard Breebunn go without saying something cursed, then Rat Shaker appeared and nearly cracked her.

  • @Dopesaur
    @Dopesaur 6 часов назад +2

    3:06:30 YAYY Tunic mentioned!!! I love this game from the bottom of my heart. Absolutely one of my top 3 games of all time. I'm glad Zeke enjoyed the experience on balance, even if he was a little frustrated at the end IYKYK

  • @CC-of5xl
    @CC-of5xl День назад +5

    2:04:35 Gaider didnt write ME games he wrote for BG2, Neverwinter and Kotor before leading Dragon Age Origins, 2 and Inquisition. The 1st thing written without him was Trespasser.
    Some characters he's known for writing are
    Kotor: HK47, Jolee Bindo, Carth
    DAO: Alistair, Morrigan, Shale, Zevran
    DA2: Fenris, Cassandra
    DAI: Dorian just found this one out this could be why he was the only companion I loved in the game

  • @losvikings2584
    @losvikings2584 День назад +41

    I agree with Zeke about Cohh. Sometimes without him the room is more funny and everyone gets to talk. Cohh is great but he can sometimes takes the mic at times

    • @apartmentpuppy
      @apartmentpuppy 23 часа назад +7

      I only watch DF nowadays when Cohh is out.

    • @kayneg9941
      @kayneg9941 21 час назад

      When was this discussed in chat

    • @rise4097
      @rise4097 10 часов назад +2

      ⁠3:01:40 Zeke mentions Cohh AND JP, not Cohh specifically

  • @dontblamethebunny3026
    @dontblamethebunny3026 14 часов назад +2

    For anyone that doesn't know, part of the reason Dragon Age: Origins has not been remastered for modern hardware is that only around 20 people left at Bioware know how that old engine works. So part of the issue would be re-training staff to teach them the engine or completely remaking the game in a new engine, huge task. 😮‍💨

  • @SkinnyObelix
    @SkinnyObelix День назад +17

    The problem I have with Elden Ring here is not just that it doesn't fit. It's the fact there's this little voice in the back of my head that's cynically whispering that this nomination is a smooch toward Fromsoft having future announcements at the Game Awards.

    • @SilverNuclear
      @SilverNuclear 21 час назад

      Or them trying to hand out an award without someone sneaking on stage

    • @HollowKnight21
      @HollowKnight21 18 часов назад +2

      Geoff is not the one selecting nominees though. It is the TGA jury comprised of various gaming outlets, journalists and critics.

    • @AzureFides
      @AzureFides 17 часов назад +2

      I think ER dlc deserves some award, like many said, it’s better than many full games. But a dlc gets goty nomination ia silly.

  • @isupergirl
    @isupergirl 11 часов назад +2

    Bree was so much fun! Please let her come back sometime!

  • @Chris-hm1gu
    @Chris-hm1gu День назад +12

    No timestamps?

  • @Charbizard1
    @Charbizard1 11 часов назад +2

    Breebun was great! Definitly invite her back!

  • @Ghrimtactics
    @Ghrimtactics 12 часов назад +1

    can we normalize calling it Duty: Blops
    edit: i think the action/adventure nominees make sense if you rename the category to Best Atmosphere ... Presentation? Most Consistent Vibes? something like that

  • @Janman1988
    @Janman1988 13 часов назад +1

    Happy to see D-F back on the menu! Dan and Bree brought a fresh breeze into this EP, liked it a lot!

  • @Silkesong
    @Silkesong День назад +8

    Glad the show is back.
    We definitely need a seperate expansion category. I think dlc/updates in general are something the game awards format struggles with. The best ongoing category always has some very odd picks. Either it's games that get nominated on name alone even when they've had a poor year (see ff14 or destiny), or you get games like diablo 4 or cyberpunk last year that get nominated for fixing their issues from launch. I know a game show is always gonna have snubs and some weird picks, but a couple of the categories definitely stand out. It's like how pc-only indies often get overlooked, even one as popular as satisfactory.
    As for best ongoing, Genshin impact pumps out more new content than pretty much any live service game. WoW has had its 20th anniversary and is in the best state it has been in for years with the new expansion + the different ways to play. I know these are 2 popular games to hate, but they're just examples. I'd honestly even give it to stardew over some of these nominees. The only recurring game I agree with is fortnite because it's in a league of its own.
    A game getting updated has become the norm, even for smaller indies. So the award shows have to find a way to account for this. As much as I love larian, this is why I think best community support should go to an older game.

    • @adamdothunt
      @adamdothunt День назад +1

      Game of the year should be defined as 'best gaming experience of the year'.
      I think the most prestigious award should not be made arbitrarily easier to win, or encourage game developers to not explore ways to re-invegorate their existing property.

  • @Judicius_96
    @Judicius_96 22 часа назад +9

    Satisfactory gets game of the year from the Golden Joystick and doesn't even get nominated here.

    • @Nichtwissen
      @Nichtwissen 21 час назад +1

      PC Game of the Year... Wukong won the ultimate one... but I agree, Satisfactory is missing here. :(

  • @PickedaName_
    @PickedaName_ День назад +3

    Games released in 2024 with good (4+ stars) player rating on PS5 that could be on GOTY list instead of Elden Ring DLC:
    Animal Well, Another Crab's Treasure, Dragon's Dogma 2, Pacific Drive, Prince of Persia, Silent Hill 2 Re, Stellar Blade, Warhammer Space Marine 2.

  • @ruibarian5187
    @ruibarian5187 4 часа назад +1

    I'm sad more people aren't talking about the score and music in Stellar Blade. I really love those songs.

  • @JawadBhuiyan
    @JawadBhuiyan 11 часов назад +1

    That Ratshaker segment was glorious lmao

  • @mattrossini1755
    @mattrossini1755 18 часов назад +1

    I think the only JP thinks Lost Crown is not an action-adventure game is because it not in a third person camera.

  • @kirof6811
    @kirof6811 День назад +1

    Oh boy finally a new droped frames episode, missed you ❤

  • @Kinslayu
    @Kinslayu 35 минут назад

    Max doesn't want MVC to win cause it's just a collection of old games, he's cheering for Tekken

  • @JustChillinOnThe5thFloor
    @JustChillinOnThe5thFloor День назад +4

    I like how Street Fighter 6 isn't on the Esports list. Per usual fighting games chilling in the corner lol

    • @aveshlutchman8573
      @aveshlutchman8573 День назад +1

      What esports would you actually remove though?
      I am pretty sure they make this list based on the most viewed esports so SF won't make it.

  • @kmoustakas
    @kmoustakas 18 часов назад

    I remember when "Hordes of the underdark" won RPG of the year back in the day

  • @mastercats
    @mastercats 23 часа назад +1

    A dlc could be a 100 hours of game play. I'd say most DLC are alot less worth to put out than a full stand alone games.
    The elden ring has reused enemy's, basic, weapons, animation, and so many other things that all the other game didn't have.
    I do think it would be great to have a DLC segment or have it be part of the "on going games" catagory

  • @oplawlz
    @oplawlz 20 часов назад +2

    D4 doesn't get credit for ongoing support when they charge for it. The season passes are shitty and the expansion is overpriced for what it adds.

  • @Ioganstone
    @Ioganstone День назад +2

    2:30:00
    JP: I don't mean this as an insult
    me: he's gonna say walking simulator
    JP: I mean it more as a classification
    me: here it comes
    JP: It's like pure Euro-Jank for me
    💀

  • @olsongc8422
    @olsongc8422 7 часов назад +1

    State of Decay 2 is also a good ongoing game

  • @Razzying
    @Razzying 12 часов назад

    I just want Usada pekora to win just for the giggles, and also she's pretty huge on the youtube side as well as being recognized by kojima so maybe one of the factors shes up there.

  • @rhunmahariel7877
    @rhunmahariel7877 День назад +11

    If Erdtree is allowed in, then Phantom Liberty, Blood & Wine, and all the other dlcs/expansions that reached those heights, should also be recognized. But they wont be.
    Again, you've heard it a thousand times now, it would've been so simple to just make a dlc/expansion category.

    • @Duzon1602
      @Duzon1602 День назад +3

      Blood & Wine won rpg of the year in 2016. look up info before giving opinions!

    • @rhunmahariel7877
      @rhunmahariel7877 День назад +5

      ​​@@Duzon1602 rpg yes, but not goty.

    • @James-u1y
      @James-u1y 21 час назад +1

      @@rhunmahariel7877Correct, I agree with you as well. GOTY is not the same as the sub categories.

    • @HollowKnight21
      @HollowKnight21 18 часов назад

      ​​@@James-u1yIt is the same in principle. A DLC won best role playing "GAME" against full games. All arguments against Erdtree for GOTY applies to Blood and Wine for Best RPG.

  • @whatlmao
    @whatlmao 2 часа назад

    best episode in so long oh my god, dan and bree are amazing

  • @TjinDeDjen
    @TjinDeDjen 11 часов назад

    On principle I'd say a dlc shouldn't be a nominee for game of the year; that beeing said, Shadow of the Erdtree, even though it's a dlc, is my personal game of the year and I think it deserves every award it can get. But I do wish they had made a category for dlc instead of doing it this way, because now there will 100% be a controversy around it no matter what :(

  • @shadow12k
    @shadow12k День назад

    Idk who gunn is but I love that sweater. It looks chill.

  • @Darkasasin80
    @Darkasasin80 21 час назад +4

    The scene in DAV with the Butcher of Treviso absolutely blew me away. I think it's one of if not my favorite scene in the whole game. Every aspect of it connected just right to blow it all away and the VA killed it.

  • @Ioganstone
    @Ioganstone День назад

    Ratshaker: "A gripping reality."

  • @Nyx_Fulmineum
    @Nyx_Fulmineum 16 часов назад

    Shadow of the Erdtree requires you to own a complete game in addition to it. GOTY has always been a singular standalone game from what I've seen. Ergo, Shadow of the Erdtree does not belong in that category no matter it's length or quality. By all means have a DLC category or Major Update category, but I really don't think we should be including expansions/DLC in GOTY polls. Otherwise why haven't we been including the amazing DLCs that have come out in the past like Witcher 3's Blood and Wine, Cyberpunk Phantom Liberty, Control's The Foundation, or FFXIV expansions?

  • @Reecon820
    @Reecon820 Час назад

    Path of Exile would win GOTY every year if DLC was allowed.

  • @esaedvik
    @esaedvik 17 часов назад

    It's funny seeing people be such fans of Stalker 2, that they run it on like 15-year-old rigs. Saw someone with an i7-3770 + GTX960 combo. They had to set the internal rendering so low, it had to be put into the .ini file instead. And still, they can't stop gushing about it. As someone who raided in Wow at 7 FPS, I kinda get it.

  • @sumireravenclaw8034
    @sumireravenclaw8034 День назад +1

    Typical gamer I think was big back when GTAV came out. then he got into COD later.

  • @LinkinParkConnoisseur
    @LinkinParkConnoisseur 4 часа назад

    Hearing zeke wont play infinite wealth on stream low key made me depressed lol. I watched all of his yakuza playthroughs plus judgment so i was waiting for his IW playthrough :( oh well
    I hope you change your mind zeke

  • @ggGoldgg
    @ggGoldgg 13 часов назад

    47:00 suspense/thriller categories??

  • @dmcross91
    @dmcross91 4 часа назад

    is Geekenders beefing with Dropped Frames?! Same guest means beef, right?

  • @BloodyBobJr
    @BloodyBobJr День назад

    The big reason Erdtree dlc was picked i think is for all the discourse its causing. People getting into arguments and making long post about it, either for or against gives Game awards more views. Its so arbitrary to me at least who wins.. usually isn't one I'd personally pick. Just fun to watch everyone get salty..lol.
    Like Jesse cox i wanna see Balatro win just for the pure chaos of it. Internet could explode

  • @sumireravenclaw8034
    @sumireravenclaw8034 День назад +1

    No offense JP but tbh? I doubt cohh will finish DA4 before the endo if the year if that. I mena it's bee about a week plus a day since he last played it due ot his sickness + stalker 2 now. and with POE2 coming out and indy in a few weeks. I don't think he will continue it. even though he';s like 90% through it.

  • @Nichtwissen
    @Nichtwissen 21 час назад

    I guess most people enjoy "more of the same" more, than something new and innovative.
    Like Dan says about Frostpunk 2, he was disappointed because it's so different from the first one... while the Studio clearly communicated - it will be a different game and they don't like to create the same game twice.

    • @kephalai
      @kephalai 20 часов назад

      then they shouldn't have named it frostpunk 2. you dont order a double cheeseburger and expect a tuna sandwich

    • @Nichtwissen
      @Nichtwissen 17 часов назад +2

      @@kephalai The comparison doesn't really work.
      Frostpunk 2 is a continuation of the first game, in every aspect.
      The devs told you it will be a different game, media told you it will be a different game, etc... it was obvious.
      People shouldn't blame the devs for their own stupidity.

  • @cohomologygroup
    @cohomologygroup 22 часа назад +3

    I have never heard of even a single one of the nominees for Content Creator of the Year...

    • @mathewlau1733
      @mathewlau1733 10 часов назад

      We're too old to keep up with these kids.

  • @HastyElderHaman
    @HastyElderHaman День назад +4

    If Naughty Dog released a DLC/expansion for Last of Us Part II and it was up for GotY I feel like this conversation would be entirely different. It isn't From's fault they get away with things others don't (like reusing animations, enemies, etc when other games get crucified for doing the same thing by terminally online people) and it isn't their fault that they're nominated when Phantom Liberty was mysteriously absent in the GotY category when it released. But I do think if other studios that weren't the industry's darling had the exact same release cadence people online would be incredibly toxic about it. Which to me, says it all. This "well other games should have been better" argument is also pretty amusing. We have tons of other games that were released this year to critical acclaim. Play more games.
    On top of it all, the base game for Erdtree ALREADY WON GOTY.
    I feel like the hardcore areas of the gaming fandom just want every game to be Elden Ring, have some completely abstract 'story' with no actual characters, and the entire point of the game is just to kill everything everywhere. Gaming is so much more varied than that.

  • @ksnicol12993
    @ksnicol12993 22 часа назад

    Space Marine 2 was definitely snubbed for game of the year

  • @olsongc8422
    @olsongc8422 21 час назад

    Arcane is great...but if it was true to the story...any of the characters who died would just respawn next game

  • @EightZen
    @EightZen День назад +1

    I missed the first two hours, so I'm here!

  • @jcat96
    @jcat96 День назад +1

    Yay! More DF!

  • @date5960
    @date5960 День назад +5

    Can i play the dlc without buying the main game? If not then it should not be there.

  • @arolust
    @arolust День назад +15

    no... no its not just OPINION, its fact. its GAME of the year, not DLC or thing you can play of the year. Is a DLC a GAME, or is it an addon to an already existing game? Congrats you have your answer, stop fing mudding the water just to not offend anyone.

    • @slanderpop8771
      @slanderpop8771 День назад +1

      Nah. Is very good but not goty to me. That’s opinions. Yes it’s your opinion

  • @mastercats
    @mastercats 19 часов назад

    Diablo 4 should have made a great game and should have been making that better and better.
    But they released a prequel/ early access game and have been slowly releasing updates on their way to 1.0

  • @realKryptic17
    @realKryptic17 11 часов назад +1

    "best ongoing game" is where shadows of the erdtree could go.

  • @sumireravenclaw8034
    @sumireravenclaw8034 День назад

    I left my da4 running a few times for at least about 10 hours while goign to stores blah blah, and pretty much 100% it. missing 3 trophies and i put about 150hours into it. never did 100% all of the stores I think.

  • @Ghorda9
    @Ghorda9 День назад +1

    i don't understand why BMW and Elden Ring aren't in the Action Adventure category

    • @2052brad
      @2052brad День назад +1

      They don’t understand their own categories

  • @Duzon1602
    @Duzon1602 День назад +2

    making zeke dumber is an impressive achievement

  • @rogerbabin8175
    @rogerbabin8175 5 часов назад

    I'm genuinely surprised that the HOT TAKE on this channel is that DLC SHOULD be allowed...
    Everywhere else I'm following all agree its fine...which it absolutely is. The Witcher 3 Blood and Wine DLC wasn't only nominated but won best RPG in 2016 setting the precedence.
    Meanwhile everyone is ignoring the REAL CONVERSATION...Manor Lords early access nominee. Why is early access being allowed? Does this mean an EA game can win multiple years in a row? Why is Manor Lords the ONLY EA game being nominated? I thought Hades 2 was well received among other options out there. Project Zomboid is my friends favorite game of 2024 and that's going on 11 years of EA.
    You'd think this would be worthy of discussion but nope...its the DLC thing while forgetting history and taking the wrong stance on it. For clarity the reason its the wrong stance is that this DLC is longer than most games. Don't get hung up on the label and just see it for what it is. If we labeled Metaphor Refantazio a Persona 5 Royal microtransaction for some stupid reason and sold it that way...then guess what...microtransactions are now eligible for game of the year. Don't let the silly label control your lives. Its a full game. By all means argue that its eligible but there were 5 better options. I'm totally fine with that...but don't disqualify a 40+ hour new experience like that just because of the label of DLC. That's silly.

  • @JustChillinOnThe5thFloor
    @JustChillinOnThe5thFloor День назад

    @5:26 good JP is going to inform the audiance and co-host on how wacky the fighting game nominations are...nope straight to goty

  • @B3rnb0t
    @B3rnb0t 20 часов назад

    Guest pilfered from geekendersss

  • @Ioganstone
    @Ioganstone День назад

    Every year there's the next FNAF game that is basically serializing FNAF, with millions of views on the let's plays, wonder if Game Awards will ever nom one

  • @absentminded02
    @absentminded02 15 часов назад

    @2:15:09 I think we have forgotten that games are now HUGE business and the "final say" people are all really stupid finance bros. who have to high five on ever decision. It's not that we're not "respecting the players" it's that "game no get made if money bro no get it" Capitalism ruins everything.

  • @evildevildante
    @evildevildante День назад

    Zeke Got it

  • @JustChillinOnThe5thFloor
    @JustChillinOnThe5thFloor День назад

    I like how Silent Hill 2 is not on GOTY and most of the list 😂
    Fun Conspiracy: Geoff isn't about to let a Konami game be on GOTY list.
    Cause Geoff isn't about to announce it but it would have been hilarious😂

  • @Darkasasin80
    @Darkasasin80 22 часа назад

    A world that gives "Best Ongoing" to D4 over PoE/2 is a world I can't understand.
    I'd give it to NMS long before D4 personally.

  • @wubbz50
    @wubbz50 9 часов назад

    I love Dan alot. But Dan giving the copium for fallout 76 is so on brand for him. That game sucks.

  • @Spyger9
    @Spyger9 День назад +1

    Elden Ring's expansion with tons of new content can't be nominated. But when the Elden Ring Remake is just old content with a new coat of paint it CAN be nominated?
    People are NOT thinking this through.

  • @TroublyPoopy
    @TroublyPoopy 22 часа назад +1

    It's a game that requires you to have played numerous hours of the original game to even access.

  • @Morden97
    @Morden97 День назад +9

    My take on elden ring DLC being there is simple: If full games can't top a DLC then that's too bad lol

    • @AlbertoMartinez765
      @AlbertoMartinez765 День назад +1

      No that a bad take , you can't Buy Erd Tree and just play it you have to BUY the original base game first play thru it killing 2 specific bosses then you can go and play it.

    • @Morden97
      @Morden97 День назад +3

      @AlbertoMartinez765 don't care. If it's good enough that judges voted for it knowing all that being a dlc implies, then it's a deserving candidate

    • @HastyElderHaman
      @HastyElderHaman День назад

      @@Morden97 Now imagine a game's dlc being nominated when you don't like the actual game.

    • @Morden97
      @Morden97 День назад +5

      @HastyElderHaman a lot of games I don't like are nominated and it's fine 😅

  • @vyris2663
    @vyris2663 День назад +1

    D4 being nominated for best ongoing is a complete joke.

  • @leglessmike_7314
    @leglessmike_7314 День назад +2

    Actually first ?

  • @Addam_
    @Addam_ День назад +1

    I just.. don't care about Erdtree being nominated for GOTY. I didn't like Rebirth, Balatro was okay, Refantazio was good and I didn't play Wukong (watched someone play it) or Astro Bot.
    Excluding Erdtree (which was easily the best game in that bunch) I'd vote for Wukong but like, they didn't put Erdtree in if it wasn't gonna win, so it's whatever.

    • @HastyElderHaman
      @HastyElderHaman День назад +3

      It doesn't really matter unless you're a developer or publisher but Erdtree's base game already won GotY. I just don't see why they can't recognize other developers. They could have easily put UFO 50 into GotY, it's an amazing game and incredibly unique for what it is. They could have put Satisfactory there, an incredibly well made game as well. Helldivers 2, albeit not reviewed all that well, was a pretty influential game, especially in the early part of the year. I really do not understand the thought process even if I do agree, to us randos it doesn't really matter at the end of the day.

  •  День назад +6

    downloaded balatro and uninstalled that crap after 5 minutes

  • @VladTheRad
    @VladTheRad День назад

    Fourth!

  • @varianngaming9403
    @varianngaming9403 21 час назад +1

    What is with Cohh and JP constantly crying about Sony having you make an account to play their games on Pc? Nobody gave a shit before Sony did it, I guarantee 90% of the games you play on Pc have you link your account.
    Larian do it, CDPR do it, Ubisoft do it, Epic do it, and many others. Give it a rest.

    • @Lowkeh
      @Lowkeh 14 часов назад +1

      The main reason for the outrage is the fact that the PlayStation Network is not available in 120+ countries.
      This means that people in, for example, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia and Philippines will have to use VPNs (thus breaking PSN's Terms of Service) in order to gain access to Elden Ring (and Helldivers 2).

    • @varianngaming9403
      @varianngaming9403 13 часов назад

      @Lowkeh Yea but why are you acting like that's Sony's fault? Do you honestly think that Sony is making it not available in those countries out of spite? There's clearly a reason why it's not, they like money and want more people using their service as much as possible.

    • @Lowkeh
      @Lowkeh 12 часов назад +2

      @varianngaming9403 What? Acting like- huh? Are you talking to me?
      I replied in completely neutral manner (or so I thought) and never even mentioned anything about whose fault it is, because that's a whole 'nother topic that is probably more complicated/nuanced than I'd care to go into.
      I gotta say, your response seem unreasonably defensive, as if I somehow managed to insult you? Sorry, then, I guess?
      But, beware of brand-loyalty; it'll rarely do ya any good.

    • @varianngaming9403
      @varianngaming9403 12 часов назад

      @@Lowkeh lmao what? I replied to your reasoning with a fact. Sony aren't putting their service in those countries out of spite. I don't have brand loyalty in the slightest, i call Sony out for their bullshit all the time, having to take two seconds out your day to make an account that every other publisher is doing isn't one of those times.

    • @Lowkeh
      @Lowkeh 12 часов назад

      @@varianngaming9403
      "Sony aren't putting their service in those countries out of spite"
      And I never said nor implied that they did. 🤔

  • @swedishZ0mBi3
    @swedishZ0mBi3 День назад

    a grill on the pod, this is a rare occurence.

  • @ctg4818
    @ctg4818 День назад

    Welcome back!