Iv had this game for months, played it countless times, all on easyest difficulty and have only won twice! I'm glad you managed to enjoy the horror and helplessness of this game! I love it and advise everyone not to ever give up because the true joy comes from finally beating the game!
Love the Pandemic game so had to order this one 10 minutes into the playthrough 😃 I love how Pandemic can look soooo hopeful for like a turn or two, then suddenly whamo youre in deep trouble. Even losing is a blast 😂 "We've only had one outbreak" LOL famous last words in Pandemic 😆Ty ty for the playthrough 😁
Great demo of the game guys, as a person looking for any excuse to buy this game you’ve made my mind up and I can only thank you for that. Keep up the great work.
What a great game! It's very interesting to see the different outcomes and different strategies that can be applied to this game. I knew the original board-game but never tried it, and I gotta say, I'd be more inclined to play this one than the OG, because it seems like it needs less explaining and gets easier to understand and fully play. Thanks for the great content! 🥰
Second time I watch this playthrough. First time was before I owned the game, and watching this pushed me to buy it (even though I didn't follow along 100% while watching). Now, having played the game plenty of times and coming back to watch you guys as a knowledgeable player, I enjoyed this playthrough even more. Pandemic: The Cure is so much fun. I have never played regular Pandemic, but I don't know if I can because the dice nature is so appealing to me, and it plays so fast. I especially love playing it solo (controlling multiple characters). Great run!
This is the first GameNight play-through I've returned to and watched for a second time. The excitement and enjoyment and tension came through just as strongly, while the end-game discussion reinforced my desire to actually acquire and play the game. Thanks guys - but, as others have already mentioned, Dave needs to back off a lot and let more co-op discussion take place.
Played once, it hated me first roll ever, 5 biohazards (no rerolls needed either) was averaging 2-3 biohazards each turn without rerolling even once we got wiped real fast, and i rolled more than double the number of biohazards than all 3 other players added up (wish there was a bioterrorist variant, i'd probably be really good at it)
Cool game, I enjoyed watching you play it. Was hoping you would have noticed and used the airlift-card to move Nikki @ 1:13:20 and tried to roll another syringe to move the 3 yellow back in the bag. (Since an epidemic seemed likely on Lincoln's next turn.) It might have bought you another 2-3 turns, but inevitable defeat was pretty much guaranteed after Dave's extremely unlucky roll.
I couldn't play 5 minutes of this game with Dave without getting up and walking away from the table. He really needs to let other people play and enjoy the game. On the bright side, this video sold me a copy of the game and that sweet dice tray.
I think you guys missed how good passing samples around the table to get more chances at a cure can be. Aaron could have sent black dice to Nikki and from there the sample transport to whomever else to get much quicker cure's. Curing is the only once per turn action here, so .. making sure that there are as many cure attempts as possible is really key.
i agree, you shall not give samples to just one person, everybody can roll for cures on there turns, yes the sentist has an ability to add 2 extras to the result
Let me review this masterpiece of a game for you. What the n00bies didn't catch is that 1 out of 6 on all action dice is a biohazard and you take a HUGE risk every time you reroll. You don't necessarily need to reroll because the least risks you take the higher your chances. In other words, you've got to weigh the probabilities against the benefits because when you cause an epidemic you do reroll the dice in the treatment center, you do roll the infection level dice but ALSO you roll again at the infection phase. So, to make it clear when you cause an epidemic at infection level 3, with 2 dice in the treatment center you immediately roll 5 dice and then, at the end of your turn you roll 3 more dice for a total of EIGHT new dice in just one turn. Another mistake they did was not to take into account the fact that anything you leave in the treatment center is passed on (as a potential problem) to the next player. This means it's better to sample something you don't need, rather than leave it where it is. As a matter of fact, at times, it's better to lock a die or even two and three if the other players are following you. The guys just thought Aaron was the only one who could cure a disease but if 2 players roll for a cure every turn it's still better than having only one player do it (every 4 turns, which means every 4 infection phases which makes at infection level 3, every 12 dice added [epidemics excluded of course]. It is then a very common mistake to leave stuff in the treatment center whereas an outbreak you can manage at times a lot better than an epidemic. And yet another mistake they did: when you decide which dice to put back in the bag, you must also keep in mind by adding a certain color to the bag you increase the probabilities that color will be drawn during the infection phase. You must know at all times what colors are in the bag so you know where to go during your phase. When you connect this to what I said above about the treatment center, you see... if you have a situation with the blacks and put 2 reds and 1 blue dice from the treatment center into the bag, it's now a lot harder to get a black die in the infection phase and even if you do, it still doesn't mean it's got to end up in the region where it causes the outbreak. As you can see this game has very simple mechanics but huge sets of choices, depending on the characters and on die rolls. You need time to master this game so you learn to connect these choices to mathematics but afterwards it's a long way down to fun and you can teach how to play in 15 minutes really. And it never plays the same. Never the same rolls, never in the same place, never the same cards, never the same happening with the same characters (which forces you to different choices at every turn of every single match you play, trust me). Now let me add the expansion into the equation. The expansion adds new characters and cards which further DRAMATICALLY alters longevity because you can really randomly choose among a whole load of characters and have to adapt to the combination of characters that come out from the draw. On top of this there's a 5th virus, which is purple-colored and there's stickers to be added on the back side of the continent tiles. This virus mutates. 2 of its faces are different. On one you have -1. It means pick a die from the bag and remove it FROM THE GAME (you're one die shorter to defeat now because if you run out of dice in the bag you're out!). On another face you have x2. It means pick an extra die from the bag and roll it. This potentially means you're supposed to roll 3 dice during your infection phase and end up rolling 6 (imagine during an epidemic what may happen with multiple x2 rolled on a purple die). Needless to say, in BOTH cases (the -1 and the x2) the purple die must be rerolled (you know what it means right? That a -1 or a x2 may come out again). Another beautiful addendum is the greend die challenge. Green dice are not viruses but conditions that affect a continent. They are D6 of course and 3 of these faces represent extra actions that a player may take in that continent while the other three faces (yellow-shaded) represent bad things. A player may spend a cross to reroll one of the yellow-shades. Let me do a couple of examples. The EVACUATION white-shade allows you to MOVE an infection die (or the green die itself) to a neighboring region. This allows you to move a yellow virus from region 2 to region 1 where it can NEVER cause an outbreak (you still have to get it back to the bag because you NEED the bag to have dice inside!). After you use the evacuation die, you reroll it... so you may get a new action (one of the actions helps you to find a cure, the other protects you from biohazards) OR a bad thing. One of the yellow-shades is the LOCKDOWN. The icon is a control tower. Whoever wants to enter that region MUST PAY AN EXTRA TRAVEL DIE OF THE SAME KIND (the other 2 yellow shades either add infection dice if ANY infection dice enters, in any manner, in that region and the last yellow shade punishes if an outbreak starts in that region by sending 4 more dice from the bag to the treatment center). For the record, a new green die is added at every epidemic in the region of the player that caused it. Green dice may cause a "green outbreak" too so you must make sure to move them when needed (can you imagine what happens when 2 lockdowns get into a region?). The game mechanics make this an extreme challenge for proficient players as common with 99% of the expansions of any game after all. This game was created by a genius (2 geniuses actually) and believe me it's a lot of fun to play. As an expert player i can tell you there's very little luck and lots of calculatos to make. If you make the right calculations you can win and if you make the wrong calculations you will SURELY lose.
Thanks for your deep take on the game. We love the game but when we played this most of us were playing for the first time so we're likely to make mistakes, heck we would probably still make them ;-). Thanks again and for watching. -Lincoln
@@boardgamegeek you are my hero Lincoln... you did great in alien deckbuilding and average here in pandemic. Your real plunder was in xcom. Of course you need many many games before you understand how to do exactly what you should be doing and this pandemic is no different. In this particular case as medic your job is to sanitize not just the continents but also the treatment center. Forget everything else because your job is not to collect but to save the situation. In a 1/6 average of biohazard die rolls especially after the record hit Aaron did, the tracker accelerated things for the worst... as i explained with each epidemic you roll x + y + z and you can't afford that. Imo either dave or nicky should also have helped more in this job. Gonna be looking forwards for your next gamenights. Compliments for winning king of new york. 😆
I've watched the beginning of it but first I need to look at how Nicky's plot ends up with Black Orchestra, I fell asleep last night. :-) You guys may want to see how both XCom and Pandemic-The Cure (Exp. Meds) work. With the accumulated experience and a bit of suggestions, I think your gameplay would be awesome and you'd actually have a chance to win. Aside form the expansion, XCom was actually patched (as you said in the final comments, the app lets the game evolve without the need to print a new manual) with *balance* and a major change in the mechanics. You may want to review more games of this type (I.e. Uboat, just out). Heck if it was for me, you'd be reviewing one per week... but since you must play at least ONE match (better 2 matches) before a review, it would mean you really do nothing else in your life but playing boardgames and reviewing them afterwards. It would be the job of your dreams eh, Linc? ;-)
One thing I would point out, You don't need to end your turn in Arron's location (for passing Samples) This causes you to clump up everyone ins Arron's location..... You Just need to end up in the Next players location so you pass the samples to them... Then They can pass it to one of the next players to go during their turn, so you daisy chain passing the samples... This keeps the players spread out. Meaning they are more likely not to need to move to a trouble spot, one of them will probably be in it. Maybe this is a good theory, but might not work in practice. But seems like this would be better than every one traveling to Arron when they got samples.
Also ... and this is a bit silly... But I feel the theme is not quite as on point in the cure. I love that the diseases spread along transport lines on a map in the boardgame.
hey guys keith here loved the game i think pandemic is brilliant anyway are there solo player rules for the cure version also have any of you tried legendary solo?
***** Awww, going to miss seeing the castle, dodads (kitchen wise) also when you live stream the abundant space for guests to mingle... oh and the spice rack... Lol
FYI, the dice are see through, so what your are seeing is the back of the 4 pip side, slightly out of focus showing through. Pause the video on 59:35 when the yellow 2, is rolled (yes it is 2, with the 2 of the 4 pips showing through), it is easier to see the out of focus nature of the other 2 pips in the dice tray, which make it look like a 4 pip. Once you see those, then all those supposed 4 pips in the 2 pip area now are seen as the correct 2 pips.
just watch this playthrough and i can already tell that this game seems really cool!! i just wanna say that around the 39 min mark....the scientist rolled some "4" yellow dice...but he put them in the "2" region and this actually saved the! an outbreak. im pretty sure it would have affected your gameplay a bit! stay focus guys ;-)
Iv had this game for months, played it countless times, all on easyest difficulty and have only won twice!
I'm glad you managed to enjoy the horror and helplessness of this game!
I love it and advise everyone not to ever give up because the true joy comes from finally beating the game!
Love the Pandemic game so had to order this one 10 minutes into the playthrough 😃 I love how Pandemic can look soooo hopeful for like a turn or two, then suddenly whamo youre in deep trouble. Even losing is a blast 😂 "We've only had one outbreak" LOL famous last words in Pandemic 😆Ty ty for the playthrough 😁
Great demo of the game guys, as a person looking for any excuse to buy this game you’ve made my mind up and I can only thank you for that. Keep up the great work.
What a great game!
It's very interesting to see the different outcomes and different strategies that can be applied to this game.
I knew the original board-game but never tried it, and I gotta say, I'd be more inclined to play this one than the OG, because it seems like it needs less explaining and gets easier to understand and fully play.
Thanks for the great content! 🥰
Holy crap. This game room is amazing.
Second time I watch this playthrough. First time was before I owned the game, and watching this pushed me to buy it (even though I didn't follow along 100% while watching). Now, having played the game plenty of times and coming back to watch you guys as a knowledgeable player, I enjoyed this playthrough even more.
Pandemic: The Cure is so much fun. I have never played regular Pandemic, but I don't know if I can because the dice nature is so appealing to me, and it plays so fast. I especially love playing it solo (controlling multiple characters). Great run!
Pandemic is my favorite game...and The Cure is a great successor. A nice quick game of Pandemic if you dont have the time for a full one
Loved this playthrough, these videos keep getting better and better.
This made me buy the game. Thanks!
I love the new room but going to miss the kitchen lol. Nice Last Starfighter reference Dave!! lol Love it.
This is the first GameNight play-through I've returned to and watched for a second time. The excitement and enjoyment and tension came through just as strongly, while the end-game discussion reinforced my desire to actually acquire and play the game. Thanks guys - but, as others have already mentioned, Dave needs to back off a lot and let more co-op discussion take place.
just played this game for the first time yesterday, I liked it XD
Played once, it hated me
first roll ever, 5 biohazards (no rerolls needed either)
was averaging 2-3 biohazards each turn without rerolling even once
we got wiped real fast, and i rolled more than double the number of biohazards than all 3 other players added up (wish there was a bioterrorist variant, i'd probably be really good at it)
You could design your OWN variant including a BioTerrorist...?
Love the look of this one, thanks guys! I think my non-gamer family and friends will enjoy this one.
Thanks for showing us how to play. Looks like fun. I need to play mine now.
Cool game, I enjoyed watching you play it.
Was hoping you would have noticed and used the airlift-card to move Nikki @ 1:13:20 and tried to roll another syringe to move the 3 yellow back in the bag.
(Since an epidemic seemed likely on Lincoln's next turn.)
It might have bought you another 2-3 turns, but inevitable defeat was pretty much guaranteed after Dave's extremely unlucky roll.
I love game night so much. Thank you for producing amazing content.
I couldn't play 5 minutes of this game with Dave without getting up and walking away from the table. He really needs to let other people play and enjoy the game. On the bright side, this video sold me a copy of the game and that sweet dice tray.
What a fantastic game, love it..
I think you guys missed how good passing samples around the table to get more chances at a cure can be.
Aaron could have sent black dice to Nikki and from there the sample transport to whomever else to get much quicker cure's.
Curing is the only once per turn action here, so .. making sure that there are as many cure attempts as possible is really key.
i agree, you shall not give samples to just one person, everybody can roll for cures on there turns, yes the sentist has an ability to add 2 extras to the result
But passing sample occurs BEFORE rolling for cure attempt right
I'd love to see Roll For the Galaxy on GameNight :)
Let me review this masterpiece of a game for you.
What the n00bies didn't catch is that 1 out of 6 on all action dice is a biohazard and you take a HUGE risk every time you reroll.
You don't necessarily need to reroll because the least risks you take the higher your chances. In other words, you've got to weigh the probabilities against the benefits because when you cause an epidemic you do reroll the dice in the treatment center, you do roll the infection level dice but ALSO you roll again at the infection phase. So, to make it clear when you cause an epidemic at infection level 3, with 2 dice in the treatment center you immediately roll 5 dice and then, at the end of your turn you roll 3 more dice for a total of EIGHT new dice in just one turn.
Another mistake they did was not to take into account the fact that anything you leave in the treatment center is passed on (as a potential problem) to the next player. This means it's better to sample something you don't need, rather than leave it where it is. As a matter of fact, at times, it's better to lock a die or even two and three if the other players are following you. The guys just thought Aaron was the only one who could cure a disease but if 2 players roll for a cure every turn it's still better than having only one player do it (every 4 turns, which means every 4 infection phases which makes at infection level 3, every 12 dice added [epidemics excluded of course].
It is then a very common mistake to leave stuff in the treatment center whereas an outbreak you can manage at times a lot better than an epidemic.
And yet another mistake they did: when you decide which dice to put back in the bag, you must also keep in mind by adding a certain color to the bag you increase the probabilities that color will be drawn during the infection phase. You must know at all times what colors are in the bag so you know where to go during your phase. When you connect this to what I said above about the treatment center, you see... if you have a situation with the blacks and put 2 reds and 1 blue dice from the treatment center into the bag, it's now a lot harder to get a black die in the infection phase and even if you do, it still doesn't mean it's got to end up in the region where it causes the outbreak.
As you can see this game has very simple mechanics but huge sets of choices, depending on the characters and on die rolls. You need time to master this game so you learn to connect these choices to mathematics but afterwards it's a long way down to fun and you can teach how to play in 15 minutes really.
And it never plays the same. Never the same rolls, never in the same place, never the same cards, never the same happening with the same characters (which forces you to different choices at every turn of every single match you play, trust me).
Now let me add the expansion into the equation. The expansion adds new characters and cards which further DRAMATICALLY alters longevity because you can really randomly choose among a whole load of characters and have to adapt to the combination of characters that come out from the draw.
On top of this there's a 5th virus, which is purple-colored and there's stickers to be added on the back side of the continent tiles. This virus mutates.
2 of its faces are different. On one you have -1. It means pick a die from the bag and remove it FROM THE GAME (you're one die shorter to defeat now because if you run out of dice in the bag you're out!). On another face you have x2. It means pick an extra die from the bag and roll it. This potentially means you're supposed to roll 3 dice during your infection phase and end up rolling 6 (imagine during an epidemic what may happen with multiple x2 rolled on a purple die). Needless to say, in BOTH cases (the -1 and the x2) the purple die must be rerolled (you know what it means right? That a -1 or a x2 may come out again).
Another beautiful addendum is the greend die challenge.
Green dice are not viruses but conditions that affect a continent. They are D6 of course and 3 of these faces represent extra actions that a player may take in that continent while the other three faces (yellow-shaded) represent bad things. A player may spend a cross to reroll one of the yellow-shades. Let me do a couple of examples. The EVACUATION white-shade allows you to MOVE an infection die (or the green die itself) to a neighboring region. This allows you to move a yellow virus from region 2 to region 1 where it can NEVER cause an outbreak (you still have to get it back to the bag because you NEED the bag to have dice inside!). After you use the evacuation die, you reroll it... so you may get a new action (one of the actions helps you to find a cure, the other protects you from biohazards) OR a bad thing. One of the yellow-shades is the LOCKDOWN. The icon is a control tower. Whoever wants to enter that region MUST PAY AN EXTRA TRAVEL DIE OF THE SAME KIND (the other 2 yellow shades either add infection dice if ANY infection dice enters, in any manner, in that region and the last yellow shade punishes if an outbreak starts in that region by sending 4 more dice from the bag to the treatment center). For the record, a new green die is added at every epidemic in the region of the player that caused it. Green dice may cause a "green outbreak" too so you must make sure to move them when needed (can you imagine what happens when 2 lockdowns get into a region?).
The game mechanics make this an extreme challenge for proficient players as common with 99% of the expansions of any game after all.
This game was created by a genius (2 geniuses actually) and believe me it's a lot of fun to play. As an expert player i can tell you there's very little luck and lots of calculatos to make. If you make the right calculations you can win and if you make the wrong calculations you will SURELY lose.
Thanks for your deep take on the game. We love the game but when we played this most of us were playing for the first time so we're likely to make mistakes, heck we would probably still make them ;-). Thanks again and for watching. -Lincoln
@@boardgamegeek you are my hero Lincoln... you did great in alien deckbuilding and average here in pandemic. Your real plunder was in xcom. Of course you need many many games before you understand how to do exactly what you should be doing and this pandemic is no different.
In this particular case as medic your job is to sanitize not just the continents but also the treatment center. Forget everything else because your job is not to collect but to save the situation.
In a 1/6 average of biohazard die rolls especially after the record hit Aaron did, the tracker accelerated things for the worst... as i explained with each epidemic you roll x + y + z and you can't afford that. Imo either dave or nicky should also have helped more in this job.
Gonna be looking forwards for your next gamenights.
Compliments for winning king of new york. 😆
Thanks again for watching. We certainly will never play a game perfectly, just watch us on The War of Mine. Brutal. :-) -Lincoln
I've watched the beginning of it but first I need to look at how Nicky's plot ends up with Black Orchestra, I fell asleep last night. :-)
You guys may want to see how both XCom and Pandemic-The Cure (Exp. Meds) work. With the accumulated experience and a bit of suggestions, I think your gameplay would be awesome and you'd actually have a chance to win. Aside form the expansion, XCom was actually patched (as you said in the final comments, the app lets the game evolve without the need to print a new manual) with *balance* and a major change in the mechanics.
You may want to review more games of this type (I.e. Uboat, just out). Heck if it was for me, you'd be reviewing one per week... but since you must play at least ONE match (better 2 matches) before a review, it would mean you really do nothing else in your life but playing boardgames and reviewing them afterwards.
It would be the job of your dreams eh, Linc? ;-)
Thanks for the deep review bro!! You are a pro for this game…🫡
One thing I would point out, You don't need to end your turn in Arron's location (for passing Samples) This causes you to clump up everyone ins Arron's location.....
You Just need to end up in the Next players location so you pass the samples to them... Then They can pass it to one of the next players to go during their turn, so you daisy chain passing the samples... This keeps the players spread out. Meaning they are more likely not to need to move to a trouble spot, one of them will probably be in it.
Maybe this is a good theory, but might not work in practice. But seems like this would be better than every one traveling to Arron when they got samples.
This game is *SO* fun!
Great job with this
I was kinda meh on this but your video renewed my interested
Keep it up!
I feel the Containment Specialist is a strong character.
Oh Dave, lol
A good episode and an interesting play. Seems like this session showed a fair amount of alpha player syndrome.
Don't mock Pandemic Dave, it will ALWAYS have the last laugh!
They should have used a... Dice Tower! ;)
Also ... and this is a bit silly... But I feel the theme is not quite as on point in the cure.
I love that the diseases spread along transport lines on a map in the boardgame.
hey guys keith here loved the game i think pandemic is brilliant anyway are there solo player rules for the cure version also have any of you tried legendary solo?
nos feratu I play solo all the time. I've played a few games with friends and that's fun too, but this is my go-to solo game.
great thanks allot :)
I'm gonna guess that "Alpha player" is another word for a "table captain".
I love your show and I love this game, but please, in the name of all things holy, STEP AWAY from the dice.
Ooh that big CR90 model.
You can only Collect a Sample if you have at least 2 die in the Treatment Center.
It was because of the rolls you guys lost, stupid dice! Lol but it was fun to watch
New look (location?) for the game room? No longer in the kitchen ;)
***** Awww, going to miss seeing the castle, dodads (kitchen wise) also when you live stream the abundant space for guests to mingle... oh and the spice rack... Lol
Where can I get one of those dice octagon type dice roller? I need one of those lol
I found a few searching for "dice rolling tray".
31:53 ...and get ourselves a treatment!
Men those re-rolls of Dave cause the pandemic.
What is Aaron's bgg name?
Pluses, crosses are actually CDC.
I think you kept putting yellow 4s on the 2 spot. It happened at least once on Dave's turn (around the 1hr mark)
FYI, the dice are see through, so what your are seeing is the back of the 4 pip side, slightly out of focus showing through.
Pause the video on 59:35 when the yellow 2, is rolled (yes it is 2, with the 2 of the 4 pips showing through), it is easier to see the out of focus nature of the other 2 pips in the dice tray, which make it look like a 4 pip.
Once you see those, then all those supposed 4 pips in the 2 pip area now are seen as the correct 2 pips.
If only Dave could stop freakin' alpha gaming, telling everyone how to handle their turn!
22:54 I thought the 4 was a cross
just watch this playthrough and i can already tell that this game seems really cool!! i just wanna say that around the 39 min mark....the scientist rolled some "4" yellow dice...but he put them in the "2" region and this actually saved the! an outbreak. im pretty sure it would have affected your gameplay a bit! stay focus guys ;-)
+BoardGameGeekTV
I see it. You'll notice two of the pips slightly smaller and darker.
This show would be 100x better without Dave bullying everyone and annoying me.
This. Just so very, very, very this.