Finishing up the dust collector build
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- Опубликовано: 8 май 2014
- A lot of details left to sort out.
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Everybody keeps warning me that the light bulb would melt the bucket. It's an LED bulb. It doesn't get hot. A regular bulb wouldn't last very long because of the vibrations (and the bucket has plenty of cooling on the inside, so it wouldn't melt regardless) 
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What I especially like about your videos is unlike most people I know, you will admit when you've taken the wrong path with your mistakes. Thank you. Trying it again makes us better at our craft.
Mathias, you are a young gentleman with a great command of logic and the beauty of engineering and scientific wonders. Congratulations on your ingenious resonating chamber found in any kitchen and placed such as to create a destructive wavefront which is in antiphase with what is coming out of that blower.
You just created a poem like kings or the narator would say it
I LOVE that you made a lock nut out of wood. Just because. You're like a 1 man industrial revolution, going through all the trials and errors of the evolution of modern equipment. They make lock nuts now for fractions of a penny.
I love the fact that you don't mind leaving the OOPS moments in your videos. You are a master so it doesn't detract from it at all.
I worked at a cotton gin where very large centrifugal fans were used. They are extremely loud and some can be heard from a mile away. Eventually someone came up with an idea for a muffler. They were designed just like an automotive muffler, but had to be really oversized to prevent backpressure and a reduction in cfm. Interestingly, some fans were quieter with the fan on the intake side while others benefitted more with on exhaust muffler. After two or three years of trial and error the mufflers lowered the noise by 70 to 80 percent.
The mufflers were just metal boxes with internal baffle plates. I can't imagine spending the time to build one of these for a dust collector, but it seems like you'll try anything!
I am quite liberal when I hand out likes on videos. I give them out for being entertained (fairly easy to get), for inventiveness (a little tougher to get), for teaching me something ( and a bit tougher yet) and then for blowing my mind and I have to share with everyone.
You videos consistently meet or exceed at least 2 of my criteria. I love the stuff you come up with. Thanks for sharing.
Having lost part of my hearing from continuous noise exposure I'm wondering, if the companies that make and sell us the power tools we use, put even a fraction of Matthias's effort in making them less noisy. Dust free and - let's all hope - noise free workshops for all!
Good job and great thinking Matthias!
Might I suggest, the use of a transparent strip (plexi or acrylic) embeded to the side of the bucket, in order to eliminate the need for a light source? I know that heat and wattage are not an issue with LED lamps, but it would be 'one thing less' in the whole design.
That back light makes things much more interesting, almost makes vacuuming fun!
Can't wait your next video. You are amazing guy!
What an awesome job.
You are like a treasure for humanity.
I wish for you to live along life,so we can learn from you.
God bless you.
you do have some very interesting ideas. the cyclone dust trap is basic and brilliant. it's better than using a shopvac on it's own. the fan is pretty good too; it's not hard to build a fan, but it is fairly hard to build one that works as well as the ones you have built. thumbs up from me mate
Great job Matthias! You're ideas and end products are amazing! I like watching your videos.
Great job, I think I'll get the plans for this. I've been using my big shop vac, but of course with no cyclone the filter just gets blocked up before the vac is full.
Love your noise reduction device, very clever
Hi Matthias,
I really like your way of egineering and problem solving! Thanks a lot for sharing!
I love the fact that you paint all of your homemade equipment green!!! I don't know if it's because your favorite color is green (it's certainly mine) or what but keep on keeping doing what you're doing! I love watching your videos! I must've watched each of them about 5 times!!!!
This channel is amazing. I can't believe all the things you are doing in just this video.
Looking good! I like how compact the whole thing is.
Creo que hablo por todos los que vemos tus videos y estamos agradecidos por tu formación didáctica de explicar todo en una forma tan sencilla y tu tiempo para filmar y editar para todos nosotros. Mil gracias.
Gfh
Another option for a runaway nut is to drill through the nut and shaft and install a cotter pin. Found a box of them at Harbor Freight.
Making a lot of changes to my little 2-car woodworking shop and the kit is a Godsend.
That Maple Syrup can was the cherry on top! Awesome idea.
hey matthias i love yuor videos i like to watch them when im bored
awesome build, as always. The can effectively is acting like a car muffler - its not really possible to eliminate sound, but you can slow down its dispersion, which is what mufflers do (and your can) - some of the sound goes away from it, and some goes into the can, and comes out more slowly, effectively becoming more quiet. The size of the container and any baffles inside also affects tone which can be more or less pleasant.
Another fine build. I imagine the noise is some harmonic of the number of impeller blades passing by the opening per second. Curious that the tin can was enough to cancel it. Another idea I've seen used on propeller type fans is to vary the gap between blades and vary the pitch. Some blades generate their noise at their frequency and other blades generate their noise at their frequency, but the energy is spread out through the spectrum so it doesn't sound as loud/annoying.
Loctite, take a tip from the car guys. nuts and bolts tend to vibrate lose in certain places on vehicles. Check them out and see which one would be best for what your needs are, they have several kinds. try not use any stronger than you need because they can be real hard to get off. Also you could have used a self-locking nut and or a lock washer. Love this dust collector project!!
Very creative and totally enjoyable! Thanks so much for sharing.
Loved the note to the nitpickers about the light - hilarious!
I realize I came late to the party, but if you run into a similar problem like that nut backing off in the future, I have a suggestion. You can drill a small hole through the bolt, and use a castle nut. They are commonly found on ball joints on a car's suspension. It looks like the rook on a chess board. It allows you to tighten the nut down, and adjust it so the relief cuts line up with the hole in the bolt. Run the cotter pin through the bolt, and you're good to go. Thank you for posting all these videos. They are greatly appreciated.
"So I've gotta take this sucker apart..."
Heheh... I see what you did there.
Good job. Is the light there to inform you or entertain you? I could watch that swirl all day, but then, I have a sad life.
Best Wishes, Brendan.
No THAT is funny!
i am with you on that one brendan, love the light,i think i would have the cleanest shop ever.
Cool build. Looks like it works great. That vortex/cyclone dust separation phenomena is mind blowing. That will save endless hours of blasting filters clean... or $ on new filters.
You have a fantastic mind for mechanics. Genius!
hmm.... Loctite® Threadlocker Red 271™ is great for Securing nuts and bolts from accidental loosening. Heavy duty; removes with heat and hand tools.
Brilliant work and ideas. Love your videos.
Totally blown away how you problem solved and fixed the nut that kept coming loose on the arbor and the frequency changing / hiding yogurt pot.... absolute genius! Are you a engineer by trade?
I like the lock you made for the nut. A good alternative you could try for the nut if you didn't want to use loctite is fishing line. Run it through like your making a necklace outta the nut then screw it down. It makes it into a lock nut.
What a beauty in the end. And Wandelgreen.
Another great project Matthias - thankyou.
I just purchased and downloaded the dust collector plans. I'm a new woodworker so I hope to be able to build this. Otherwise I'll remain a beginner since I don't want to run tools without dust collection.
John McGuire the dust collector isn't exactly a beginner project either. So if you do succeed, you definitely aren't a beginner!
h0rr0r100 A Teflon lock nut might have worked as well.
one suggestion... Why not make grooves in the trailing edge of the Impeller fan, to mimic the wings of an Owl.. That way the the turbulence at the ends of the fan blades shall reduce and result in a more silent operation..
Cheers with the Cyclone...
The backlght idea makes it look so bloody cool... it's mesmerizing..
A piece of expanded metal lathing works great for adding pressure to nuts and plates. But you are the first person i have seen to use a yogurt doppelgänger in their shop.
Good work.
I made a tiny dust collector that is closer to a shop vac than anything. It mounts on the top of a bucket and is somewhat cyclone based. It runs off of a small 60w blower fan I found in a dumpster, and works perfect to keep my bandsaw clean with the vacuum port on the back. The filter is a section cut out of a furnace filter and made into a lampshade shape, and it just hangs inside the collector, similar to a shop vac. The filter does obtain dust, but after cleaning my tablesaw dust off the floor, I easily had enough suction to clean up wood cutoff chunks off my bandsaw from making gears.
Matthias вы молодец.Всегда смотрю ваши ролики.
You could rise the suction ability by reducing the diameter of the flexible pipe.
You would have more air speed.
Looks great, the light is a nice touch too :)
I love seeing fellow engineers work through finding solutions.
Very nice as always, just take care that the heat of the light do not melt the container
Looks great Matthias
nice. A lot of work though. I like the ingenuity. bravo
I love watching your video's, i wish my health would let me fool around in my little shop, you make some real cool stuff ! thanks for the video's
Impressive machine. Thanks for sharing.
Nice work Matthias! The noise cancellation was a stroke of genius. As you know these things are inherently noisy. If you have a way to measure decibels I'd be curious to know the results. I'm thinking this may be portable enough for both my basement and garage. What's the overall weight of machine? You may want to put this one in production - the weight to power ratio, low noise induction motor, and of course the unique wood construction may have provided us with a world class quiet, powerful DC for the masses. I want one and will start building one as soon as I can. Please keep up us updated on your detailed plans, improvements, etc. Thank you!
Техника исполнения хорошая. Здесь было бы целесообразно вентилятор поставить сверху, всасывающим отверстием вниз. Получилось бы значительно компактнее и на одной перегородке можно сэкономить. И вообще есть реальная возможность оформить это одним блоком и одевать на любое подходящее ведро. Не надо никаких пылесосов и циклонов! А в качестве электромотора можно использовать, например, дрель. Если убедил - пользуйтесь без каких бы то ни было ограничений. Удачи.
your so good at everything
This is pure awesomeness!
I liked your green tools so much, I went back and painted all my rolley tool tables "Deep Forest Green" oil based Rustoleum ®. Much cleaner, more uniform. Every bit helps.
As always, I am entertained, and left wondering how I can make my wood-shop better.
cool project ! Keep up the good work
you should make a video comparing the noise levels of the normal vacuum to the one you created.
I laughed when you were drilling through the metal and it gripped on, and for the second hole you just kept it in your hand again.
I had some shop classes in highschool, and they taught us to always use clamps and stuff when you're drilling, no matter how long it takes, even if it's just for one hole, because you should rather lose time then fingers. If I'm honest, I've never used clamps for that purpose again after the end of those classes.
Yes always use good judgement - especially for sharp sheet metal.
Very nice job!
For the loose nut, you could use a lock washer ou an auto lock nut!
Well done!
Wow . . . . what can I say. Such precision and detail. Thanks so much for sharing. And now I only wish I would have taken Shop instead of Home Ec. back in the day. Would have been a lot more useful, even though I'm a girl. Well, a grown up girl. lol
I really like this, thanks for sharing
For some reason I like every one of your videos I watch. Am I becoming "Wandelified"?
One question....do you worry about the light bulb ever melting the plastic? My grandmother kept lights on her baby chicks and some of those could get crazy hot.
Desflurane123 It's an LED bulb.
You must get a great deal on that green paint. Great project on the cheap.
Dude you are just so ingenious.. can I come over and watch sometime?
Thank you for sharing!!
Dude your dad comes up with some great ideas..
Your "usual shade of green" reminds me of a trip up the Alcan Hwy in in 1965. There were a number of new iron bridges, every one painted a certain shade of blue. Every other man made object that was painted was also that same shade of blue. Where did Wandel Green originate?
Calypso Green.
you can make a branch resonator. most air filter boxes in cars have it to cancel out that noise frequency.
if u ever have any future problems with that nut coming lose may i suggest: either a castelled nut, safety wire, or metal lock nut tho these can be hard to find.
things like castelled nuts, safety wire for your application can be done diy
tho i hope ur fix works with out any future problems :)
Could blue loctite be used on the bolt?
You forgot to paint the can LOL
great job Matthias as always
to keep that nut in place you can put a little of silicone, is good in vibrations and could be remove in future.
nice design. i would be afraid of that bulb to melt the plastic bucket if it is an old fashioned bulb. I really love this project because it is almost entirely shop made. And it is smart.
Read the annotation that appears RIGHT WHEN I SHOW THE LIGHTBULB.
Matthias Wandel
Yes, indeed. Sorry for trolling :)
Nice u come up with some awsome ideas
Very cool setup, you should paint that plastic red trim ring the same green, and maybe the sound dampening can too. =)
Loctite may be the answer of your loosen bolt. Also In some non critical parts i used CA Glue, i didnt try CA on this kind of big bolts but it always worked well on model airplane parts.
When I had a nut that kept coming loose, I simply put a lock washer behind it. It has never come loose since then.
That's really great !! as always brilliant ideas :)
Clearly, what this man needs is welding equipment in his inventory.
Nice one as per usual !
Steve
i would recommend an led light bulb so you don't generate any heat
Nice build. It's actually kinda cute..... Now I cannot imagine how you went into the kitchen on day and said " hey, I'm in the mood for yougurt and I'm pretty sure the container will muffle the sound from the dust collector" :-)
Matthias, I am really excited about your invention. I am very adverse to loud noise and threw out my shop vac cause it was just too damn noisy. Your design incorporates many noise reduction designs and tricks. Still, I am wondering if you could give us some overall decibel numbers and compare levels to your other collectors?
Matthias, why not paint your muffler too? I thought that was quite a clever solution to the noise level.
Mike @ Doobly-Do Wood Works
Love that green.
That is one awesome lamp.
Деревянный стимпанк :-)
Всё ровненько, аккуратненько... Даже глазу нечему зацепиться. Но красиво!
I guess I missed where you got your motor from Matthias. Thanks for the video.
Hopefully you're using the right kind of led bulb. Crappy ones can get really hot.
C'est magnifique!
You did a great job. One day i will copy your idea if is allowed to me. Thank for the video.
Спасибо, очень интересно.
Thanks,wery interesting
It would be intreasting to see how this one compared to the two colectors you showed us in December. Both for suction and loudness. Very hard to guage sound in a video.
I like how you didn't paint the tin can green as well
Hi Matthias. Did it get better Dylos readings than your big dust collector with the bag? I really like your videos. Thank you so much!
dude, you are amazing !!!!!
Matthias, would look a little better with label removed from the can. Nice job looks great and seems to work v.well!
It's a painted on label, there's nothing he can remove
nice work! I like the bulb gives it a cool look. but why not building a proper muffler?
Matthias and his green machines, that's a great title for a children's book
This is awesome! Thanks :)