@@cjohnson9211 ... well (a) they just finished training extensively with weapons... so "gun ho" might fit; and (b) da JarHeads ain't known for their linguistic skills 😉 (end of good-natured roast)
Ehh not really, military lawyers along with doctors are some of the very few positions that aren’t soldiers, airmen or sailors first. Lawyers are literally just lawyers that wear uniforms.
Speaking for the British military, Kaffee is more like our officers/soldiers: someone you work closely with it's first names. Even in our marines, if these lads went about with the 'sir, yes, sir', they'd get told to chill out - no one speaks like that outside basic training, except VERY rigid units like guards battalions.
@@cammysmith7562you are smoking crack…they wear the uniform they are in the military…they take pt tests and received evals like the rest of us…retired Army Major
Harold needed to get it through his head, "I'm the only friend you got." None of the men in his unit stood up for him. They wrote him off. So much for their code of honor.
What could the other men in his unit have possibly done? Even by Dawson's own testimony, no one else was in the room when Kendrick gave Dawson the Code Red order. And openly, the Marines were told that Santiago wasn't to be touched. Although Corporal Barnes did later testify on behalf of the defense that he wouldn't have given Santiago a Code Red for fear of retaliation from Dawson.
@@gnc623lol they knew and were there but Dawson is not ratting them due to the code. However the people he’s saving don’t feel the same way and happily let him go to jail for murder when they were ordered
When I was in Military school in the early 80's the senior cadets would take our name tags and push the spokes through the tabs then when we put the back on they would punch them making the sharp ends poke our skin 😮 to.. train.. us
When one receives promotion, in the navy, it was common practice to pin the crow on when you made Petty Officer. This is where you put the collar device on the right shoulder, and then each member of your division gets to lightly punch it, making the sharp end of the pin pierce your skin. The solidifies the importance and responsibilities that the rank entails. That's in the Navy, which tends to be less gung ho than the Marine Corps. The military's attitude towards hazing has significantly changed since this movie has been made.
This movie is entirely bullshit in every way. No one, Marines included, acts like this. Whoever wrote the script for this movie never spent a day in the military or even did their research into what it's like. This movie is one of the worst movies ever made bar none when it comes to mainstream movies about the US military. "Kaffey" would NEVER behave the way he does, especially to officers higher than him, and the Marines wouldn't act like they were on the autism spectrum
@@twoeightythreez I was in during the Baby Bush and Obama years and we still do that with pinning crows amongst ourselves, only we aren't psychopaths. The officers and certain cheifs were kept in the dark. But many of the old ways still existed.
Oddly enough, in reality, there would've been an entire investigation for Dawson coming back to the rear with a missing round before Santiago couldve even snitched 😂😂
Very true. My father was in the Army in the Quartermaster Corps & they do accounting for every little thing down to the number of drinking straws & he told me that the guys who work in Ordnance are even more tight assed about every single round of ammunition.
Yeah, you ain't kidding After 911 we were basically in threat con Charlie for years during my time TAD to security, we were on a port/starboard schedule while in port Planned incremental overhaul. One of our armed watches, decided it it would be fun to make rounds dance across his fingers to try tio make his 12 hour post seem less tedious and must've dropped one down a ladder well. Suffices to say that while we were relieved from our watches by the morning shift, we spent a good part of the rest of the day looking for and finally finding that bullet lol A 9mm round on an aircraft carrier talk aboit a needle in a haystack 😂 No big investigation no firearm have been discharged. So as soon as we found the round, we were all dismissed other than the guy whom thought it was funny to play with live ammo 😝 messed up part is he tried to hide it, but of course, the MA in the armory noticed that no round came out of the chamber when he cycled the slide (we were standing watches with condition 2 weapons). He was pretty dead to right because the round was found right where that particular person had stood watch..... so even if anyone would've been inclined to snitch, there was absolutely no need to.
The saddest thing about satiagos death is that there was never no need to break the chain of command... Dawson was his immediate superior officer... and dawson loved the marinencorps more than jessup and kendrick, and dawson would've moved heaven on earth to help the Marines. Santiago never needed to break the chain of command
@@Soldierboy54b and if you are relying on these two to protect you, you better perfectly adhere to their code, including "the kj bible", and including the unwritten parts of their code, or else you are the enemy.
Question. Santiago claimed that Dawson illegally fired his weapon. Dawsom claims that he engaged his weapon legally because his "mirror" made a move to fire. Who is lying? Who is telling the truth about this fenceline shooting? Santiago or Dawson?
Client-Attorney confidentiality, Dawson has no reason to lie to Kaffee about the fenceline shooting and you should never lie to your lawyer about the case anyway, but Santiago had every reason to lie because an illegal fenceline shooting will cause the higher ups trouble regarding the safety of the base(which is why Jessup avoids the question in the breakfast scene), he would rat out Dawson in exchange for a transfer and it would have worked on any other Colonel thats not called Jessup.
@nameless458 He's already proven he's not afraid to kill his own men without justification,why should anybody believe him about not killing the enemy illegally?
Kaffee was as smart ass as Jessup was " haaaaaraaald" lol " the united states government wants to charge you with m*** and you want me to go to court with unit...core ..god country " 😅 what a clown
@@thetvbaby83This movie is loosely based on the true events in which a Marine named William Alvarado was killed during a hazing ritual by his fellow Marines.
Hello! My name is Tony and I ruin movies! ESPECIALLY the ones I love! And as a former Marine who served 8 years in the Corps (not long after this movie came out) this is near and dear to my heart! (It's just for grins, so relax your balls) 1) WHY ARE THEY SHOUTING SO MUCH!! "OFFICER ON DECK TEN HUT!!!!!" Etc... So much bullshit here. For one, there is no need to call attention on deck. Simply get on your feet and give a proper greeting to the officer(s) who enter. All of the screaming of name, rank, duty station, assignment... your attorney would know ALL of that shit. So calm down Harold!" 2) "Sir" at the start of a sentence- That's more of an Army thing. Marines only end with "Sir". 3) Wiseass Caffey? He's not a wise guy cop from an 80s movie. He's a fucking lawyer. Yes, he outranks his client, but this is not how it goes. Like civilian attorneys, a JAG lawyer would need to gain the trust and confidence of his client. You don't do that by taking pokes at them as though he were a Corporal in his platoon. 4) Yes, they do need to call you "Sir". Rank structure is part of the very fabric of the Navy and Marine Corps (And the other armed forces as well). From our first indoctrinations into the corps, to the last day, you ALWAYS, without exception refer to officers as sir, and enlisted who are senior to you by their rank. So, no. You are not "Danny". 5) Code Red- This is the single most asinine apart of this film. It's hazing. That's it. Hazing is an ever present issue in the Marine Corps. I know this is more cinematic, but acting like Hazing is this rare, secretive and ritualistic occurence is hilarious. Hazing is against policy, it's trained against, but it's deeply ingrained and hard to get rid of. They didn't need to invent a fancy ridiculous term for it. 6) No Gum in uniform Sam. Especially not during the performance of your duties. 7) It doesn't matter if anyone saw Harold call the ambulance. Even as far back as the 90s, 911 and other emergency response services would easily know the source of a phone call. Especially on a US Base overseas. So this question is irrelevant. 8) Firing at the Mirror- This is stupid. All ammunition is counted upon returning a weapon to the armory. And Harold is a boot. He would not be in a position to engage the enemy without prior authorization from someone much higher. If he were taking random shots into Cuban territory, he would be charged with several crimes right there and probably would have been busted down and discharged before the idiotic Code Red even happened. 9) Yes, we do train on the importance of the chain of command. But not to an idiotic point. Santiago was asking for transfers for months and expressing his difficulties to all. Harold, like everyone else also watched him struggling the whole time and did nothing. Jessup later says he asked "Everyone but santa clause" for help. Clearly he did try to the chain of command first. 10) The Code- a. Sam, this is not hard to understand. Sure, you are a lawyer in the Navy working a cushy desk job in the city. But you seem to know everything since you keep explaining all things Marine Corps to Danny. So how do you not understand some of this "Warrior" mindset? It is common knowledge in the military that Marine Grunts are a fighting force who do infantry full time. Even if you don't live like this, it would not be an alien concept. 11) YES, Danny... you fucking idiot. Yes. You should absolutely go to the prosecutor with "Unit Corps God Country". Your job as defense counsel is not just to show that your clients didn't intend murder, but to show that factors in mitigation exist for their behavior. You need to show that these men are not simply trained, but indoctrinated to live by this "Code", and that not following the code results in serious consequences. "Unit Corps God Country" is 90% of your defense you bag of d*cks! 12) How are you a "friend" danny? Why does he get all twisted when Harold says "no thank you" to his smarmy "offer" of books, papers, cigarettes, and ham sandwiches"? He has made it abundantly clear that he does not care about rank or military courtesy. Just 90 seconds ago you were chastising them for calling you Sir and insisting on a first name basis. Now you are upset that he wasn't polite enough for you? GTFO. That's it for now!
Absolutely brilliant. This is something I've always wanted to know about this movie, about how realistic this script was. Thank you for the eye-opening insider info.
The fact that they have a code that puts "God" as third on the list, after unit and for Corps speaks volumes. Ain't no code I'd like to live by. YAHUWAH Elohiym Most High first and foremost above all is a code I'll live by. In fact Messiah Yahushua himself proclaimed the Shema, the prayer and proclamation of Yisra'el himself. "Shema (hear and obey) O Yisra'el, YAHUWAH our Mighty One, YAHUWAH is one. And you shall love YAHUWAH your Mighty One with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind and with all your strength. (Mark 12:29-30 referencing Deuteronomy 6:4-6)
This movie is the reason why civilians (mainly Boomers who never had the balls to serve) think people in the military are robots. This movie is fucking awful. Only someone who never been in the military can watch this and not cringe
I'll watch it, but yes. It's cringe AF when you have served. I served for 8 years active duty Marine Corps a few years after this came out. To this fucking day, people still think this is how the Corps works. Its very cinematic, but hard not to pick it apart.
@@macktruck8331 What is that even suppose to mean? Are they crusaders? Are they fighting for one god and one religion over another? What is it suppose to mean?
You missed all the 1,000 fluff movies on the military. Taxpayers spend about $150,000 per military person; it’s not a job, it’s a pension. Defense Budget is $800 billion with 60%+ of other to military pay, and another $250 billion on VA. And 80% of Fed government jobs go to vets, locking out civilians who pay taxes to fund those jobs. It’s isn’t 1973 when the military pulled out of Vietnam.
It's great to be "woke". Than be some robotic brainwashed clowns who cant think out of the box and throw their careers away because of some fake patriotic code.
Anyone else watching this one scene at a time out of order??
Yep thats me right now.
lol
YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH!
No, I STRENUOUSLY OBJECT!
yes, me too 😂
yep, great film.
Oh yes, and more often than I’d care to admit 😂🙈
Holy shit. Shaving a Marine’s head? As a punishment?
Well I’ll be damned 😂
You haven't heard the part about the G.I. shower? Yikes!
Technically that's against the rules.
With steel wool etc...
The way Lance Corporal Dawson reminds me of me right after I got out of boot camp! I was GUN HO!!!! LOL!!!
It's Gung Ho
@@cjohnson9211
... well (a) they just finished training extensively with weapons... so "gun ho" might fit;
and (b) da JarHeads ain't known for their linguistic skills 😉
(end of good-natured roast)
I'll never understand why they landed on the names Downey and Dawson. Too similar.
@@cjohnson9211 He's right. We are sluts for firearms. His comment makes complete sense.
Danny reminds me of me right after I got out of boot camp.
Kaffee going a little overboard with the “I don’t know about these silly military things” like calling people “sir”
It’s all a little much
Ehh not really, military lawyers along with doctors are some of the very few positions that aren’t soldiers, airmen or sailors first. Lawyers are literally just lawyers that wear uniforms.
Speaking for the British military, Kaffee is more like our officers/soldiers: someone you work closely with it's first names.
Even in our marines, if these lads went about with the 'sir, yes, sir', they'd get told to chill out - no one speaks like that outside basic training, except VERY rigid units like guards battalions.
Thats sorkin for ya
@@cammysmith7562you are smoking crack…they wear the uniform they are in the military…they take pt tests and received evals like the rest of us…retired Army Major
Harold needed to get it through his head, "I'm the only friend you got." None of the men in his unit stood up for him. They wrote him off. So much for their code of honor.
What could the other men in his unit have possibly done? Even by Dawson's own testimony, no one else was in the room when Kendrick gave Dawson the Code Red order. And openly, the Marines were told that Santiago wasn't to be touched. Although Corporal Barnes did later testify on behalf of the defense that he wouldn't have given Santiago a Code Red for fear of retaliation from Dawson.
@@gnc623 Marines are @$$holes. I have never met one that wasn't. Soldiers are better servicemen and servicewomen in my opinion.
@@gnc623lol they knew and were there but Dawson is not ratting them due to the code. However the people he’s saving don’t feel the same way and happily let him go to jail for murder when they were ordered
@@DanielCruz-xq6eo Well that's the USMC for you...
By the code they meant closing ranks when things went bad.
Holy crap, scrubbing a guy with steel wool is horrifying.
When I was in Military school in the early 80's the senior cadets would take our name tags and push the spokes through the tabs then when we put the back on they would punch them making the sharp ends poke our skin 😮 to.. train.. us
When one receives promotion, in the navy, it was common practice to pin the crow on when you made Petty Officer.
This is where you put the collar device on the right shoulder, and then each member of your division gets to lightly punch it, making the sharp end of the pin pierce your skin.
The solidifies the importance and responsibilities that the rank entails.
That's in the Navy, which tends to be less gung ho than the Marine Corps.
The military's attitude towards hazing has significantly changed since this movie has been made.
Watch the movie Silkwood. If you were exposed to radiation they scrubbed you with wire brushes. This was parodied in Monsters, Inc.
This movie is entirely bullshit in every way. No one, Marines included, acts like this. Whoever wrote the script for this movie never spent a day in the military or even did their research into what it's like.
This movie is one of the worst movies ever made bar none when it comes to mainstream movies about the US military.
"Kaffey" would NEVER behave the way he does, especially to officers higher than him, and the Marines wouldn't act like they were on the autism spectrum
@@twoeightythreez I was in during the Baby Bush and Obama years and we still do that with pinning crows amongst ourselves, only we aren't psychopaths. The officers and certain cheifs were kept in the dark. But many of the old ways still existed.
sorry but tom cruise is even better than nicholson himself.. "....does he speak?"" ahahahaha hilarious!!!
that's their code!
This movie has so many incredible scenes, Classic tipple A movie.
Harold was awesome in this film. I hope he went on to do good things
He was discharged.
Knowing the truth about their orders, the way Dawson protects Kendrick here is pretty sickening.
I know, I never understood that part.
Its the Code sir!!
@@TheMacC117 Dawson literally tells you. Unit, corps, god, country
…. and while in court….. Dawson looks at Kendrick in dis belief when he is thrown far under that bus.
how Kendrick hides behind (and misuses) God is even more sickening
Oddly enough, in reality, there would've been an entire investigation for Dawson coming back to the rear with a missing round before Santiago couldve even snitched 😂😂
Very true. My father was in the Army in the Quartermaster Corps & they do accounting for every little thing down to the number of drinking straws & he told me that the guys who work in Ordnance are even more tight assed about every single round of ammunition.
Yeah, you ain't kidding
After 911 we were basically in threat con Charlie for years during my time TAD to security, we were on a port/starboard schedule while in port Planned incremental overhaul.
One of our armed watches, decided it it would be fun to make rounds dance across his fingers to try tio make his 12 hour post seem less tedious and must've dropped one down a ladder well.
Suffices to say that while we were relieved from our watches by the morning shift, we spent a good part of the rest of the day looking for and finally finding that bullet lol
A 9mm round on an aircraft carrier talk aboit a needle in a haystack 😂 No big investigation no firearm have been discharged. So as soon as we found the round, we were all dismissed other than the guy whom thought it was funny to play with live ammo 😝 messed up part is he tried to hide it, but of course, the MA in the armory noticed that no round came out of the chamber when he cycled the slide (we were standing watches with condition 2 weapons).
He was pretty dead to right because the round was found right where that particular person had stood watch..... so even if anyone would've been inclined to snitch, there was absolutely no need to.
Couple of true jarheads.
The saddest thing about satiagos death is that there was never no need to break the chain of command... Dawson was his immediate superior officer... and dawson loved the marinencorps more than jessup and kendrick, and dawson would've moved heaven on earth to help the Marines. Santiago never needed to break the chain of command
Santiago was a sob
@@vitorcassius them dont got the right to murder him!!
@@vitorcassius A lot could've been done to help him.
Given how ego fragile l Dawson was, yeah there was a need for it.
I'd rather have these two guys protecting me than any keyboard warrior on planet Earth.
GD right
Idk. They seem pretty robotic
@@therealsapdad1942 .... Today is Easter Sunday. I argue with nobody. Go with God.
@@Soldierboy54b and if you are relying on these two to protect you, you better perfectly adhere to their code, including "the kj bible", and including the unwritten parts of their code, or else you are the enemy.
@@kenlowe-ca .... Have you ever served in the military? I have.
Great acting and great film
Question. Santiago claimed that Dawson illegally fired his weapon. Dawsom claims that he engaged his weapon legally because his "mirror" made a move to fire.
Who is lying? Who is telling the truth about this fenceline shooting? Santiago or Dawson?
Client-Attorney confidentiality, Dawson has no reason to lie to Kaffee about the fenceline shooting and you should never lie to your lawyer about the case anyway, but Santiago had every reason to lie because an illegal fenceline shooting will cause the higher ups trouble regarding the safety of the base(which is why Jessup avoids the question in the breakfast scene), he would rat out Dawson in exchange for a transfer and it would have worked on any other Colonel thats not called Jessup.
@nameless458 He's already proven he's not afraid to kill his own men without justification,why should anybody believe him about not killing the enemy illegally?
Kaffee was as smart ass as Jessup was " haaaaaraaald" lol " the united states government wants to charge you with m*** and you want me to go to court with unit...core ..god country " 😅 what a clown
Side bar. One code red for 4 Shirley temples we just need an exchange
The first rule of war is to do what you ask your men to do no more no less a quote from oliver stones Alexander.
Since we seem to be out of witnesses, I thought I’d drink a little.
Lance Corporal Dawson, you swore an oath to the United States Constitution, not to the United States Marine Corps. Of course, so did Colonel Jessep.
Did Private Santiago order a Code Red? Or did he just eat his chili?
Hmmm… I always assumed their Code was building upwards: Country first, God second…
The constant Sir thing would annoy me as well.
It should be a privilege if guy who were brave, disciplined, capable and motivated called you sir. Check your ego
@@imcallingjapan2178 The key word in my post was 'constant'.
Really? I always thought it odd that Kaffee was antagonistic toward Dawson because of that.
Thats how they were trained. I was trained that way as well. Combat arms units are a different breed. They are wrong to make light of that.
Definitely don't need to salute that thing
Can we just talk about how handsome Tom Cruise is?
No tf that’s only for people who go for the Cowboys
What about : constitution of the United States as a code ?
in theory, thats where 'country' comes in /shrug
Correct, it should have been God, County, Corp, Unit!
Now they changing that it used to be god country hahaha
None of it was ever right. It's a movie guy. Code red? Lmao 😂
@@thetvbaby83This movie is loosely based on the true events in which a Marine named William Alvarado was killed during a hazing ritual by his fellow Marines.
@@_____case I'm referring to the language used in the film, not the crime.
@@thetvbaby83 The term "code red" was apparently used by this group of Marines to refer to these kinds of hazing rituals in the early 80s.
@@_____case and it was wrong. The language was all wrong. I'm not asking you, I'm telling you.
Which god? Allah? Zeus?
CO2?
Lord Jesus Christ
Jeff, the god of biscuits
@@RandyBaumery-s4i So there are 2 gods, Jesus and his dad?
@@imcallingjapan2178 Yeah. Wtf are they on about.
Hello! My name is Tony and I ruin movies! ESPECIALLY the ones I love! And as a former Marine who served 8 years in the Corps (not long after this movie came out) this is near and dear to my heart!
(It's just for grins, so relax your balls)
1) WHY ARE THEY SHOUTING SO MUCH!!
"OFFICER ON DECK TEN HUT!!!!!" Etc...
So much bullshit here. For one, there is no need to call attention on deck. Simply get on your feet and give a proper greeting to the officer(s) who enter.
All of the screaming of name, rank, duty station, assignment... your attorney would know ALL of that shit. So calm down Harold!"
2) "Sir" at the start of a sentence-
That's more of an Army thing. Marines only end with "Sir".
3) Wiseass Caffey?
He's not a wise guy cop from an 80s movie. He's a fucking lawyer. Yes, he outranks his client, but this is not how it goes. Like civilian attorneys, a JAG lawyer would need to gain the trust and confidence of his client. You don't do that by taking pokes at them as though he were a Corporal in his platoon.
4) Yes, they do need to call you "Sir".
Rank structure is part of the very fabric of the Navy and Marine Corps (And the other armed forces as well). From our first indoctrinations into the corps, to the last day, you ALWAYS, without exception refer to officers as sir, and enlisted who are senior to you by their rank. So, no. You are not "Danny".
5) Code Red-
This is the single most asinine apart of this film. It's hazing. That's it. Hazing is an ever present issue in the Marine Corps. I know this is more cinematic, but acting like Hazing is this rare, secretive and ritualistic occurence is hilarious. Hazing is against policy, it's trained against, but it's deeply ingrained and hard to get rid of. They didn't need to invent a fancy ridiculous term for it.
6) No Gum in uniform Sam. Especially not during the performance of your duties.
7) It doesn't matter if anyone saw Harold call the ambulance.
Even as far back as the 90s, 911 and other emergency response services would easily know the source of a phone call. Especially on a US Base overseas. So this question is irrelevant.
8) Firing at the Mirror-
This is stupid. All ammunition is counted upon returning a weapon to the armory. And Harold is a boot. He would not be in a position to engage the enemy without prior authorization from someone much higher. If he were taking random shots into Cuban territory, he would be charged with several crimes right there and probably would have been busted down and discharged before the idiotic Code Red even happened.
9) Yes, we do train on the importance of the chain of command. But not to an idiotic point. Santiago was asking for transfers for months and expressing his difficulties to all. Harold, like everyone else also watched him struggling the whole time and did nothing. Jessup later says he asked "Everyone but santa clause" for help. Clearly he did try to the chain of command first.
10) The Code-
a. Sam, this is not hard to understand. Sure, you are a lawyer in the Navy working a cushy desk job in the city. But you seem to know everything since you keep explaining all things Marine Corps to Danny. So how do you not understand some of this "Warrior" mindset? It is common knowledge in the military that Marine Grunts are a fighting force who do infantry full time. Even if you don't live like this, it would not be an alien concept.
11) YES, Danny... you fucking idiot.
Yes. You should absolutely go to the prosecutor with "Unit Corps God Country". Your job as defense counsel is not just to show that your clients didn't intend murder, but to show that factors in mitigation exist for their behavior. You need to show that these men are not simply trained, but indoctrinated to live by this "Code", and that not following the code results in serious consequences. "Unit Corps God Country" is 90% of your defense you bag of d*cks!
12) How are you a "friend" danny?
Why does he get all twisted when Harold says "no thank you" to his smarmy "offer" of books, papers, cigarettes, and ham sandwiches"? He has made it abundantly clear that he does not care about rank or military courtesy. Just 90 seconds ago you were chastising them for calling you Sir and insisting on a first name basis. Now you are upset that he wasn't polite enough for you?
GTFO.
That's it for now!
Thanks for your insights. 👍
Absolutely brilliant. This is something I've always wanted to know about this movie, about how realistic this script was. Thank you for the eye-opening insider info.
They put God before country. How charmingly barbaric.
No one plays an arrogant prick as well as Tom Cruise does.
😊
Crayon eaters are the best service members
Idolatry to put anything or anyone above God. First Commandment of Ten.
Amen
Kinda horrible that they include God in there at all, let's be honest
Typical brainwashing bullshit
But remember; they are fanatical……. fanatical about being Marines.
History is full of idols.
The fact that they have a code that puts "God" as third on the list, after unit and for Corps speaks volumes. Ain't no code I'd like to live by. YAHUWAH Elohiym Most High first and foremost above all is a code I'll live by. In fact Messiah Yahushua himself proclaimed the Shema, the prayer and proclamation of Yisra'el himself.
"Shema (hear and obey) O Yisra'el, YAHUWAH our Mighty One, YAHUWAH is one. And you shall love YAHUWAH your Mighty One with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind and with all your strength. (Mark 12:29-30 referencing Deuteronomy 6:4-6)
The amount of unnecessary exposition that got shoe horned into this scene is a touch cringeworthy.
This movie is the reason why civilians (mainly Boomers who never had the balls to serve) think people in the military are robots. This movie is fucking awful. Only someone who never been in the military can watch this and not cringe
I'll watch it, but yes. It's cringe AF when you have served. I served for 8 years active duty Marine Corps a few years after this came out. To this fucking day, people still think this is how the Corps works. Its very cinematic, but hard not to pick it apart.
And yet you responded in a programmed and predictable way.
Unit,core,God,country this shouldn't be. It should be God,country,core,unit.
Unbelievable putting God third.
@@shahedmc9656 sadly most gangs organization or any groups don't put God first America. That's why they fall.
Drop god entirely, move country to the top and the core if it is used for noble goals.
@@seanwebb605 you tripping
@@macktruck8331 What is that even suppose to mean? Are they crusaders? Are they fighting for one god and one religion over another? What is it suppose to mean?
There is no God, so there you go modern military,
This movie reflects Hollywood's contempt for the military. This is remotely not the way things are in real life. Well... Hollywood BS as usual.
You missed all the 1,000 fluff movies on the military. Taxpayers spend about $150,000 per military person; it’s not a job, it’s a pension. Defense Budget is $800 billion with 60%+ of other to military pay, and another $250 billion on VA. And 80% of Fed government jobs go to vets, locking out civilians who pay taxes to fund those jobs. It’s isn’t 1973 when the military pulled out of Vietnam.
Didn't realize at the time that I was watching two woke officers interrogate two disciplined and honorable marines.
Their "honor" killed a man, but whatever.
It's great to be "woke". Than be some robotic brainwashed clowns who cant think out of the box and throw their careers away because of some fake patriotic code.
In what way are they "woke?" Because they practice law? That means every lawyer Trump has hired is "woke"😂😂
@@mg19calAlong with unpaid.
@@WhoRunBarterTown .... Who would you rather be shipwrecked with on a deserted island? Weinberg? Or real men? That's what I thought.