Brand new SEPLOS BMS 10E with Bluetooth App, connects plug'n play to Victron!
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Here is the World Premiere of the new SEPLOS BMS 10E with Bluetooth app!
How easy is it, to replace the old BMS version with the new one? How does the app connect to the BMS? Are all parameters and functions available through Bluetooth? How does the new BMS connect to the Victron Venus OS?
We will answer all these questions (and many more) and also have a detailed look at the new Bluetooth app of the SEPLOS BMS 10E.
In the second part of the video, we're going to connect the SEPLOS BMS to the Victron Cerbo GX. This is really an easy task now! The SEPLOS BMS acts like the good old battery monitor or Smart Shunt and also shows all parameters in the Victron VRM.
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They really should find someone to help them with the English terms...
Yep, very inconsistent with their translation.
Yes, there is actually a specific field called technical translation. These people not only know how to translate between languages, but they're also familiar with industry-specific terms in both languages for a particular field such as software or electrical engineering. Sadly, domestic Chinese companies never seem to use their services. They're only brought in when another company OEMs the product.
CAn I buy SEPLOS directly for better price ?
funny. thanks for sharing
Hi Andy. You mentioned that you had trouble connecting Bluetooth, you had discussions with seplos and established a connection. How did you finally get connection.I have the same problem with my
Hey Andy so what was causing the Bluetooth app to just sit there and fail to connect I've gotten to that point but I can't get past it it says connected and then fails and says home or reconnect. This is making me pull my hair out 🤯 any help would be much appreciated sir!
I am using a Growatt 3000 24v unit that was donated to my channel, and frankly I hate these all in one units, there is a language barrier with support, no clear instructions on how to do firmware upgrades, no clear information on how to set battery-charge parameters etc, after seeing your sucess "and a few failures with victron" I will be going with thier gear moving forward, I am just glad I did not invest a lot of money in this all in one unit, keep the great videos coming :)
anyone knows why seplos V2 gives problems with the bluetooth app? my board is part model 1101-LN16 with protocol version 2 with software version 16.7... any help?
Great to see SEPLOS taking feedback and implementing it into the products!
Whatever you do, do not fill in the enquiry form on the Seplos website. I have so far received ten junk emails from third parties at a unique email address used solely to fill in the Seplos web enquiry form. Posts on diysolarforum suggest this is not a one-off occurrence.
Thanks Andy, great videos as always👍
Re app improvements. Better translations / more conventional terms. Eg: Monomer!
Just booted my now old Seplos Bms today! Yet to commission the system fully, waiting for a sparks to do the ac side of the Multiplus DC all done😁
Hi Andy, I am having the same connection problem with the bluetooth that you had originally and got solved. I see in the comments that a couple of other people also have had this problem.
I would be grateful if you will share the resolve as I can't get past the data downloading screen. Thanks for any help. Great video by the way.
I had the same issue and finally found the issue.
You have to activate bluetooth in the BMS with a PC and the serial -> USB adaptor...
@@Cozmopwn Many thanks, I did this and it worked.
@@tonycrownshaw8482 I dont understand why Andy did not tell us what he did to fix it :D
Thanks Cosmopwn for your reply on this issue saved me some heartache
@@Cozmopwn where to find at the pc software?
if you got 10E, is not automaticly with bluetooth. The sale also 10E with the old Display and then is without bluetooth.
Where to get the new one with Bluetooth?
@@tanishqbhaiji103 i dont know. I think at the moment only some for youtubers. I have 10E but witout bluetooth. i hope i can order Display seperate.
Hello sir. I have a question that I would like you to answer: Can I install 15 cells into the Seplop 48100-1101-10E-SEC06-16S BMS circuit? I am very happy and look forward to your answer.
Wishing you health and happiness.
Crossing my fingers before the video ends... update on the remaining panels?
Excellent video, as always! Excited to hear about the remaining panels... tomorrow maybe? Cheers Andy
Perfect video for me, just playing with the Seplos with no Bluetooth. Have 3 .So I guess most knowledge applies to it too. Thanks Andy from Czechia. I knew Seplos can be good...haha
Thank you- I'm very inspired mit Seplos BMS👍.
I searching always for top quality but nothing about Sensata.
I don't expect any respect wearing my sandals short pants und t-shirt mit mine cheap glasses but I feel good recycling off solar and living more closely with the universe. Nothing lost many occasions subject matter runs into deeper objectives but I wish you would tune down a notch und review this TimeUSBPower used battery for us newbie. Look closely at the pop open products soft key category for used battery. The company testing and product along with realness type business model is most inspiring to me for many reasons. I think this maybe good for a change for those not do power hungry👍♥️✌️
Comms cable for victron...
What do you mean cut in half and solder? Why not just use the rj45 crimper and make new one with correct lineup? It's not like everybody looking these videos ( for actual use) don't already have the tech level to roll their own network cables.
hey Andy that solar company you hired to install your panels are looking VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY BAD. They don't show themselves in a pos light. Where the hell are they? They do a little bit of work and then ----------Crickets. I would tell them that your youtube watchers are chatting about there bad practices of no show. lol solar panel guys.
Andy , whats so special of Seplos USB - RS485 adapter ? And how to install driver ?? 02 dirve dowload ?? Maybe a small vid cause alot of people want to know I guess.
How do you cable the CAN bus for a rack of these batteries? There's only one port on the BMS.
Hi Andy, glad to see some new content. I eagerly await your videos and I have seen ALL of the off-grid videos. I was wondering why during the time you were waiting for the new panels to be installed you didn't line up some of the old ones along the fence and/or on the ground to help keep your batteries fully charged. That might have relieved some of the stress of waiting for the installers. I understand if you disposed of the old panels immediately after removing them, but I would be surprised if you didn't keep some for "emergency" purposes.
Thank you.
I had the pool fence solar still connected at this time but we needed all the space on the driveway for they vehicles and trailers. I still have all of them old panels...
Please, add this time the thermal transfer pad, the blue rubber gum :-) between the heatsink and front plate
There was no chewing gum in the box. It's only for the 200A version of the BMS, I believe.
@@OffGridGarageAustralia somehow i remember you had that in the past videos and didnt know what to do with it ? i dont know other versions, i had 7x 200A from May delivery and now 10x 200A but not built yet.
@@patrickmartin4482 I was just joking. I'm very aware what that pad is for. I just call it Chinese chewing gum😁
@@OffGridGarageAustralia I have the 150A version and it also came with the chewing gum.
@@hoffinb Hmmm, the BMS in the 280Ah kit came with one, but not the new BMS. I'll clarify this with Seplos if necessary or not.
Another amazing video. Thx a lot. I am looking forward to how the two battery box will turn out. If multiple 10E bms will work together, I will be getting a few of those boxes.
Bonjour, j'ai le même problème que vous, l'application bluetooth ne fonctionne pas, comment avez vous fait ?
Merci d'avance
ou si quelqu'un voit ce message et qu'il a la solution, je suis preneur, j'ai tout essayé et @seplos ne me répond pas à moi !!
Hello, I get the same error message as you when connecting to the app. What did you do to make it work? Greetings Thomas
Ciao Andy sei un grande, puoi gentilmente mettere un link dove acquistare L'adattatore RS485 USB tipo B per BMS seplos 3.0 .
Grazie Andy un abbraccio dall'Italia.
AveRageJoe is cool people. i got one chinese friend move to australia he got some solar stuff to add to your collection do not know how far you are from 25 Gibbes street Chatswood NSW 2067 he will like to give you some solar goods to check them on your chanel i will give him your info if you like. keep the grate job Andy
I have just built my third of 4 of these batteries using this BMS this third battery wont load data but connects like the unit did in this video, how was the issue solved please Andy.
You said it took you a few days to get the bluetooth app working, can I ask how you got it working? Mine seems to get stuck on rescanning and nothing we do changes it.
Ciao Andy tutti video interessanti, grazie per il supporto, ho preso anch'io da poco un BMS seplos mi serve la password per gestire parametri settings da App seplos non so dove recuperarla.
Grazie mille se puoi aiutarmi
Un abbraccio dall'Italia.
Heya, oke that seplos bms is better already then the last 1 still mayby some updates are needed
30:20 always the best and very informative
Andy one question can we connect 2 DEFRENT type of batteries in series lifepo4 and 18650 lithium ion ?
Best regards from Philippines 🇵🇭☕☕
Yes, I need to know😁
Sure would be nice if you put a link to the BMS app for Android
Great timing Andy. I'll be building 2x batteries for my RV soon using the 304Ah Eve cells in a 16s (48v) setup. Using all Victron, this is really nice. Looking forward to the balancing video!
Balance voltage of 0.20 V is not the same as 20mV as you said. Besides, starting to balance when there is a difference of 200mV is way too late I think. 16 strings?? Humm, I thought there was only one string of 16 batteries in series.
Hummm, i thought it was *16* cells in one string to make a *battery* of 48vnom.
Ordered the kit in october. Unfortunately no Bluetooth on my BMS. I asked for it, but is was not available until half of november... And my order was already on transport. 😔
Yeah, there was a cut off time and this BT BMS is brand new. They just started shipping. It's not a deal breaker...
@@OffGridGarageAustralia once the setup is done I don't really have a need for the bluetooth I think. There is a JK on in right now, haven't connected to it once since it is in place...
@@bramsoff-grid that's what I found too. It's just for the setup...
I don’t saw Deye inverter. Is it possible to connect to Deye?
Andy please how can I connect and choose protocol for voltronic
Where do you get the bt app from? Whats called?
Does thi Seplos BMS 10E work with Apple IOS phone? I just finished building a EEL 16S battery with 13KW but cannot get my Iphone or my macbook pro computer to see the Seplos BMS>
Yes, the BT app does work with Apple iOS.
Watch out for seplos. I ordered a sample of bms for testing in August. I received an advance invoice on September 7 and paid it immediately. To this day I have no bms or money. First a certain Adam told me that there will be a new version and it will be sent to me. These excuses lasted almost until the end of September.
On 9/24/2022 they sent me what looked like a UPS label saying they had shipped it. Label created in Hungary? I double checked with UPS to see where the shipment was. I was told they only created a label and did not deliver the package to them. Every week Adam tells me it's on its way. I do not recommend this company, they do not communicate and are extremely unreliable. I pay a lot of money for express service and my package doesn't arrive for two months.
Oh, that's really bad and should not happen. Thanks for sharing this here!
Have you tried using their website to get in contact with them? Livechat, email? There are several email addresses they have published. Ask to speak to Henry to sort this out...
@@OffGridGarageAustralia Of course. Emails, whatsapp .... Unfortunately, there's an ignoramus named Adam. Seriously stay away from this company.
Unreliable company!
Andy I noticed that in your parameters you had Battery Rated Capacity 280Ah, which is fine I understand that. But then there was an SOC with a value 270Ah. What is the meaning of this value? I have on my battery (200Ah) Battery Rated Capacity 200Ah but SOC is 100Ah. It is very different from yours, so I am trying to understand what is going on here.
Have you done a full calibration of your battery with the Seplos BMS as per their instructions?
@@OffGridGarageAustralia Full calibration with discharge and then full charge? Yes that was done. Because I assume otherwise I would not have Battery Rated Capacity, which is correct in my case (200Ah). I just don't understand what this SOC equals 100Ah means. In your case it is 270Ah and that is like 10 Ah less than total Rated Battery Capacity. While in my case it is 100Ah less and that is a big difference. Hence I am trying to understand what it means.
Where did you get the app for it what's the name
Its so new, thats also new for seplos himself 😅
Like# 85, caught at lunch!
I can't believe no other comments yet!!!
They need to get a native English speaker to do the translation.
Nice to see that. the Seplos BMS is now ready for use
Hello
I have the same problem as you. I can't connect to the BMS with the bluetooth.
How did you solve the problem?
I did not understand everything in the video.
Thanks in advance
fabrice
I can't find the video mentioned in 27:07 about the Raspberry-CAN connection with the CAN-HAT.
Thank you so much!
Hi, I bought the battery box from EEL battery, and the SEPLOS BMS 10E came with it (white-labeled - hahahaha). But they delivered the old LCD with it - so no Bluetooth for me 😡. Do you have a suggestion, if and where i could contact for the information if a replacement of the LCD screen with the one including Bluetooth would work and where i can order just the LCD screen?
Many thanks - BTW Very nice and entertaining Video 😉
Hi Andy, which cables of the Networkcable are the high and low that you put in the CAN HAT? the tx and the recv? And which polarity + or - ?
Grüße Norman
It's a pitty you pay big $$$ for a seplos case and 2 months later they come up with a new version. You don't mention the price but this will pretty expensive. I would like to see a clear roadmap of seplos and a longer time to market so they deliver "first time right". Tnx for video Andy.
I love loading power meters
Very good video - is there a SEPLOS BMS compatibility table with other SEPLOS BMS models - it would be a good video.... Or can I use a JK BMS on CAN with a SEPLOS on the same CAN network ?
Hurry up with the next video Andy! I need to order BMS's for My RV! (4x strings of 16s - 230Ah Eve Cells (they fit better than larger ones)) Will give me around 40kw to power two MP-II inverters. Gotta love victron. Except the price.
Monomer? What's next? polymer? Pretty wierd linguistic translation for "one cell"
Scouring he comments for any hint of the remaining panels... I’m getting anxious over here! Next time you upgrade, I’m flying to SHA to do the work for you, gratis. I trust all is well, and progress is made, in my absence.
Hi Andy,i also use SEPLOS 10E that the Bluetooth PCB put in the main PCB not on the screen,And I can connect it in first time .❤ thank you for sharing your video, I am Lek from Thailand.
I ordered a 270 ah 12v setup and what arrived was a 48v 270ah hmmm after some emails to and fro it seems my order was mixed up with another and they would send me my order by air however this still seems like it's being sent by sea, 1month later it still hasn't arrived? Im waiting to get back on the road but can't as yet, I had been telling people about this product for use in the caravan industry but now I think I will not promote it! so far it has not been a pleasant experience, I know there are always issues but this has been one of the worst experiences to date!. sad to say
I have not read all comments so not sure if been answered already but Im keen to buy a few of these Mason 280 kits but is it best to contact Seplos direct when ordering to ensure you get latest 10E BMS........also is shipping reasonable to Australia/Tasmania ?? Thanks in advance for any assistance
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Andy, if I have different SEPLOS BMS can I connect them all together on CAN and will that work compatibility wise ? Or should the BMS in one batter be the same as in the next (master) etc,....
The BMSes connect via RS485 to each other. Only the master is connected via CAN or RS485 to an inverter.
Seplos has got 3 different kind of BMS models:
10C: with CAN bus output
10D: with RS485 output
10E: with both
It's complicated which BMS will work with others but generally BMSes of one model work together. It all depends on what you are going to connect it to and what your intensions are...
@@OffGridGarageAustralia - with the 10E, can you connect to CAN (to talk to the inverter), and RS485 (to say, output to some other h/ware) at the same time?
@@DezFutak the Seplos BMS have only one communication port for the inverter (CAN). The other two RS485 ports are for connecting other BMS when paralleling battery banks. I don't know what protocol the BMS are using to talk to each other via these ports. It might be possible though to read the data on these ports at the same time.
Andy, thank you for your videoes
I have 3 x Seplos BMS in parallel, and in general works fine,
however when I switch the BMS off, it looses the setting for victron and returns to default
is this a know issue?
Can Seplos also add: 1. A balancing current worthy of 280Ah? I'm not sure what that would be... 10A? 2. Make the 280Ah case a proper rack mount kit
If the Bluetooth module is on the display module, doesn’t it mean than we can just swap out display module from a 48100 unit with the new one and have Bluetooth connectivity ? I
Thank you for mentioning me ☺
I'm glad, I could help!
In the App, I want better TRANSLATION please!!! 🤌
Maybe since you are able to get emails from them you could ask them how to connect a growatt 3000tl lvm-es to the older version of BMS that's in the Mason 135AH, several emails and reading the manual and i have gone nowhere with it, connecting to 1,2,3 etc Masons would be a nice thing for them to explain since it's advertised that they work together.
I suspect the module on the main BMS board is the canbus interface. Now they just need someone knowledgeable to do a little more understandable English translation. I suspect the software developers are not battery users, so they likely need your feedback (like cell differential voltage on the first page). P.S. nice frog.
I was waiting for this from your previous post. Eventhough your video is dramatically long.
First cleanup that English Kauderwelsch!
But at least they seem to be willing to take the suggestions of customers into consideration. That's a good attitude at least...and an opportunity for us...
Where is the Bluetooth module? I have a 10E board but it came with the old display. Is there a place to download the app so I can see if it is on the board? Doing a Bluetooth search is bringing up 2 MAC addresses that need an app to connect but they could be from elsewhere.
Edit, I had skipped past the bit where he said it's in the display.
So now I need the upgraded display. At least we know it works with both displays.
EEL Battery has somehow the same box. But with screw terminals... not sure about other differences or prices 😮
Where is Battery 3.Oooohhhhhhh???
3:40 I am still wondering why we have to disconnect the "+" first. The internet always tells me to disconnect the "minus" first.
Andy solution is to increase loads like HVAC, pool heater, water heater or even mining, I am curious what will happen if your battery completely disconnected by bms or breaker tripping. Will your charge controllers smoke or victrons can handle battery disconnection?
Hi. I just got going with the app. Do you know what the constant little pop downs from the top are? Really annoying and don't seem to have a purpose or be able to be stopped!
Hi Andy, I'm building my system with Victron, which Bms do you recommend to add to the battery pack 16s that communicates with the mi cerbo gx? thank you
Hi Andy, I’ve been learning from you for a while now, thank you 🙏.
I can’t seem to find a link for the big buss bars you use, please help.
Hi Andy, how did you sort out the bluetooth Problems? I've got the same issue. txh Erich
The Seplos 10A (Andy) 😁is what they should name the revised board. (Well, only if it passes the "sniff" test! ) haha!
Hi Andy and Erm, er, err, erm Joe. Nice tshirts from Joe. I have to point out, why is the bluetooth inside the case, I did notice it is behind the display where it isn't metal, fun thought. Erm did you test the cable on the old board because you might get it wrong way round, we can make mistakes even ruddy computer.
O.K. I am here to help you out: the difference between 180 and 170? It is 10.
7:14 OMG, He’s reading the instructions… AGAIN?!?
Great video and really helpful again. Received my 10E in the week, but no Bluetooth screen with it 😢 hopefully they will sell them as a single unit for those that want to upgrade??
Hi Andy, interested to see your experiments connecting 2 BMS to the Cerbo. Here is why: Today I finished my 2nd unit (CAN). First setting DIP switches and connect them together and to the PC via RS485 - worked nicely as expected. Then checking Victron Remote Console, BMS is not connected any more...huh? Switched DIP1 on master back to zero and it connects. Again DIP1 to ON and communication to Cerbo lost....
Cheers Andy 🙂
Aunt Edith says: Master DIP5 must be set and Slave DIP1. Cerbo shows one battery with the average SOC value....nice nice...
BUT: Chatting with Jerry - once you connect 2 or more BMS via RS484-CAN the communication to the PC via RS484 does not work any more. SO no monitoring on the live system without separating the communication on 2 Packs (one for CAN-Cerbo and the other for RS484-PC). Quite a bit dissapointing. I was expecting the multipack can be monitored while running in the ESS. Still Venus shows highest and lowest voltage cells in the 2 packs... thats good enough right how...
Hi all,
Can someone help with android app won't show any device (battery)?!
New BMS, 10E.
Andy (I think) have had the same problem in the beginning but never told what was it?
You have to turn on the Bluetooth function in the BMS first. Connect with the PC software and go in the Function Switches. All the way down in the list is the Bluetooth function. It is off by default. Seplos will change this for future BMS deliveries.
@@OffGridGarageAustralia Hi Andy,
Thanks for your answer. Unfortunately, it is something else.
After watching your videos I have waited to buy SEPLOS 280 DIY kits with the new 10E BMS, thinking the Bluetooth is there... but, to my surprise, you have to tell them specifically that you want Bluetooth, because it is in the screen and you have to order it extra...
Somehow I missed that part...
Thanks again for the great DIY stuff!
het is een rare deurbel met een maandelijks abonnement. Het was gratis maat helaas is dat NIET meer zo!!!!!!!
Keep the electric going!
Will both Seplos bats communicate together now? YET?
Thanks for the tests and the report. For balancing you can lard a bit at Jens channel. It seems to work.
The battery CAN cables A and B is a bit of a mess. Different GND pinning. But in many configurations it is sufficient just to connect CAN-H and CAN-L. These pins remained at the same positions. I am using a simple UTP telephone cable for the short connection. -> Victron "VE.Can to CAN-bus BMS cables manual"
Ciao, sto provando l'applicazione bluetooth ma non trovo il dispositivo pur avendo attivato la comunicazione bluetooth. Come sei riuscito a farla funzionare?
Grazie !
I was just using your video to figure out what screws to use for the battery terminals on my Mason. Too bad I need to now order the E version of the BMS to replace the C versions I have.
you gotta love BT...
What did you have to do to connect, I am having the same problem connecting.
so much nicer with Bluetooth. also awesome it talks to Victron. I have half my breakers moved to off grid panel. Taking it slow to see ow everything is working. Solar rocks. still can not figure out why I get so much from my panels on cloudy/snowy and rainy days. I think its that huge lake close by. Nobody knows why. Some say I am making it up. I am not I am super happy with the output of my solar in bad weather. Just drives me nutty because it nobody else is getting these results.
Maybe it's the Gomer Pyle effect. When the cook sold Gomer his car and began adding gas to the car to make it look like it was getting super gas mileage, then Sarge wanted the car. He got the car but then the cook started siphoning gas out of the car to make Sarge think it was getting bad gas mileage. Classic episode. Maybe that's happening to you.
@@porter5976 haha. I can video chat with anyone who wants to. Show them live what I get. It's snowing and cloudy for next week.
@@porter5976 okay I removed the film on my inverters and what do you know there is a decimal place. so I am not getting what I thought as batteries kept going down. I get 10% of what I said before. which is what I expected. dang film had me going nutty. now I know these panels in winter will not keep up with my demand in snowy/cloudy and rainy days.
I also get quite good solar on cloudy days. I believe that diffuse light likely acts a bit like a fresnel lense, and evens out shadows - a fully cloudy day, particularly when it's very high cloud, is often better than an intermittently cloudy day on an otherwise sunny day. And I mostly work in the Australian Desert, so definitely no lake impact here :)
Hi Andy. Welche App benutzt man denn für das Seplos BMS. Ich finde nirgends eine Info dazu. Ich habe Apple oder android….danke für eine kurze Info. Grüße aus Old cold Not Sunny Germany
I would like to see which cells are balancing in the Bluetooth app and in the PC app.
The JK Bluetooth app looked good so maybe they could copy the layout from that.
salut andy pour le cable victron j'ai le type b et sa fonctionne aussi , mais peux tu me donner le non de application svp , j'ai une pcb v16 version 001-st73 et le bonjours de la france hiiii
When is the solar upgrade guys coming back?