Superior Drummer 3 vs. Get Good Drums Modern & Massive Review and Comparison
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Quick comparison video of Superior Drummer (SD3) and Get Good Drums (GGD). SD3 is more of a fully fledged plugin, so it's apples to oranges but wanted to highlight key differences to help prospective buyers make a more informed decision.
Both sound pretty good, but SD3 stands out to me as having more options and overall utility for a producer/songwriter. However, the GGD kits are much more economical and concise as far as price point and features. I was a bit disappointed in the stability of GGD causing CPU overload in Pro Tools (see video), which was a surprise. SD3 is taxing on the CPU but stable.
Sound wise, SD takes the cake for me, but if you make relevant styles of music GGD will sound great.
My search for an all-encompassing drum plugin solution in AAX plugin format has been endless and disappointing. SD3 is bloated with mixing and sequencing features that are cool but miss the mark on what I need to speed up my creativity. It also does not let you browse through your own sample library, which would have been a huge feature.
A lot of these drum plugins (e.g. Maschine, Geist, SD3) are trying to reinvent the wheel by including extensive sequencing and mixing features that are sub par compared to what DAWs are capable of in 2020. I wish they would focus more on useful production and songwriting features like a better browser, easy sample swapping, lots of kits etc. rather than mixing features. Pro Tools, Logic, Cubase etc. are already the best mixing and audio sequencers for over 20 years, why do you want to reinvent that?
Not sure why this has 5 dislikes, this actually helped out a lot thanks man
SD3: 5:22
GGD: 5:58
If you get sd3, highly recommend the rock foundry. Sounds great with minimal effort, and wide enough range of kit pieces to get whatever tones you want. Easily tune up or down each piece, but the cost... I've bought a used car one time when I was younger that was cheaper than sd3 with an sdx. That car still runs good, but so does sd3 so, your call. Ggd is great but has a learning curve if you use reaper for a daw
Cool, thanks! I wasn't super crazy about that pack but I love Death & Darkness and Prog Foundry!
Great video dude. Right to the point. I like how you give us personal preference on particular features. Thanks man!
Thank you Nathan - will make more soon!
I use Superior drummer 3 with no problems but I can't use GGD modern and massive or Invasion properly bcos they are too CPU heavy. Anyone else have these issues?
I have a 2016 MacBook Pro with 2tb and 16ram and I have issues running invasion. I’m also using slate digital plugs across 16 channels and others … not sure why it’s so “skippy” it’s infuriating.
I don’t have that issue with the P3 kit and I use constrain delay (CubasePro’s answer to the issue) with invasion and it’s not a problem. It is a problem overall tho and I feel you on that.
Unfortunately I am gonna have to buy a new MacBook with way more power to rectify this issue. It’s about $3500 to do it 😤
No! I find SD to be more CPU intensive.
I'm considering upgrading to SD3, GGD sounds great, but doesnt work with ekits and kontakt is so unstable, breaks routing, doesnt display properly on 4K monitors even after alot of crazy setting fiddling.
I personally prefer the sound of the GGD, sounds more organic to me, and the cymbals have a more rounded sound. Thanks for the video!
Great stuff thanks
GGD sounds sooo much more balanced outta the gate. SD has always seemed to have a weird tone with their snares. For me.. GGD wins.
2 years later. GGD doesn't even come close to SD3 sample wise because they're not the same type of instrument. GGD is for musicians that want pre-mixed drums. EZdrummer as well. SD3 is for professionals who work with many artist or people who actually know how to mix. (I'm not one of them lol so don't be offended). I've put hundreds of hours and it's litteraly limitless. If you had 5 artist that wanted 5 specific sounds. 1. trash metal 2. grunge-ish 3. pop punk 4. Funk 5. Radio head-ish . GGD wouldn't cut it. You'd have to show them what you have and they live with that. SD3 you could. Forget the presets, no one use's them.
@@sidetrak85 Yeah, youre commenting on something from 2 years ago my dude. A person learns alot in that time.
@@sidetrak85 I was also referring to SD2 at the time sooo 🤷♂️
“Tracker” is to trigger a recorded drums session
So can you switch between the superior drummer and ggd on the same midi track? I use SD but just bought the fusion kit and want to try it. Copy midi file and of course relocate hits to appropriate keys. I figured for $39 it’s worth a shot. Really like the fusion kit sound. Using logic daw
Yes, you definitely could do that, would just have to take the time to map the kits the exact same way. The only thing is that Superior has a lot of additional hits.
Would be easier to just make two midi tracka one on each and put the same midi. Then just toggle on and off
As the other guy just said. It’s better, easier and faster to have two midi tracks (in my case, one for GGD and another for Addictive drums) and just turn on / off what you want to play or not to play with each one
The Modern and Massive kit looks really paired-down - is it possible to expand it to have as many cymbals as, say, the Invasion kit? Kit size is a major factor for me and these kits all look weak from that perspective.
They are, which is why I use SD3 mostly. Check out the Death and Darkness SDX!!
"My search for an all-encompassing drum plugin solution in AAX plugin format has been endless and disappointing. SD3 is bloated with mixing and sequencing features that are cool but miss the mark on what I need to speed up my creativity. It also does not let you browse through your own sample library, which would have been a huge feature."
That touched my soul!! Try Perfect Drums! They'll be releasing a 2.0 version sometime soon, and it is looking good!
For real dude, I'll check it out right now. I started using Steven Slate drums and it's really good as well (possibly better than both of these) new video on that coming soon!
@@LucasMessore I'm also very happy with Addictive Drums 2, but it also takes a lot of tweaking...
@@LucasMessore Hey man what is it that you like better about SSD 5.5? I have GGD Modern & Massive and love the sound, and thinking of getting SD3 because it seems like a brilliant songwriting tool with all the controls for variating grooves and fills. I Just tried the demo for SSD5.5 - demo is pretty limited in terms of sound choice and felt strangely quieter compared to GGD with SSD hi hats mixed pretty low (I guess that's what they have in mind when they say SSD is "mix ready" - hmm.
What are your thoughts overall? Thanks!
@@nikolaybakalov8264 Just get Superior. SSD has some of those classic 2000s samples but doesn't really sound quite right overall and does not have any of those songwriting or mixing tools.
@@LucasMessore Thanks a lot man! Really appreciate it!
I appreciate you doing this video. Honestly, I have all of the GGD stuff. I don’t have all
Of the OKW - don’t feel I need to have them all but I have all of the main kits they offer minus P4
I am a massive fan of Periphey musically - just an outstanding group of musicians.
I have been considering Superior Drummer. Here’s my reasoning…
Once you have a kit setup and have it just how you want it it sounds great - save the template in CubasePro and you have it locked in.
But you also have a specific sound locked in. To change genres you are looking at re-mixing the whole kit
Sure you can try and do it through the main drum buss but that’s a shortcut that you may be able to make work but not perfectly.
What I would like to know, is this.
Is superior the same way?
If I rout and setup all of the channels can I pull back on parallel comp and work with the articulations/velocity to change from metal tp a more prog/rock sound?
If I pull the velocities down on GGD it’s still too punchy.
With how time consuming it is to make a template from scratch (6hours or more in some cases) does superior have a better routing process?
Do they have templates available when it comes to setting up all of the channels and buses or is it the same tiresome process just a different brand?
Thanks for putting the time in dood!
Thanks in advance,
SamL
Not sure if I understand your question 100%. Yes, Superior has an actual mixer with plugins and fx all built in. You can change mixer presets/routing and drum kit selections independently. So that gives you a lot of flexibility (like a ton more than GGD). When switching genres of a song I would change the whole drum kit completely as well as the mix. But to answer the latter part of your question: setting everything up does take a while, definitely not six hours though, that's way too long. Multi output routing is a one click process in SD3 and in GGD if I'm not mistaken. But additional steps are required to organize everything properly in the DAW.
@@LucasMessore
I appreciate the quick response!
Yeah, sorry about the convoluted question.
You answered it pretty well.
If GGD has a one
Step multi out process, I haven’t found it. Also Kontakt isn’t very user friendly. It’s fine once its setup but I have had issues with multi-out routing in kontakt.
TBH I have had trouble with GGD with every kit in kontakt…
I am not a professional sound engineer, and it probably takes me more time than the average person to come up with a usable mix...
A lot of trial and error when it comes to plugins…
The main point I was asking was to do with multi-out routing.
Is it a more simplified process with superior vr GGD/Kontakt?
You said it’s easy - so I’ll go ahead and buy superior and see if it’s a better fit.
As far as the whole genre thing - I was basically asking how hard it is to go from a full metal template to a soft less aggressive sound drum wise without having to rebuild the whole chain…
Sorry if I’m not articulating the information very well.
Thanks again for making the video and responding to my questions.
🙏😎
@@samuellauzon8168 No worries, I totally get you. Yes, Kontakt is annoying to me too, but it's a staple in the production community for sample libraries. I find it to be not user friendly and clunky & avoid native instruments plugins in general. But many high level producers would tell you the opposite that you should learn how to use it. I would say you should set up a multi output kontakt ggd template and just use that every time.
I would not say that SD3 is in any way simplified. it's a much more robust setup and potentially more complicated. But if you mention changing genres of music it's worth checking out because it has quite a few more kits available. Assuming you have the $ and time to get it. Expansion packs are expensive. Side note I should make a video about all this, and also maybe compare it to Steven Slate Drums.
And as far as drum mixing goes, since you mentioned it - one tip i could give you is to don't go super hard with the compression and EQ and lots of plugins. I think a nice saturation effect and some envelope shaping can go a long way. Subtle compression and EQ. And using samples/triggers is a huge part of getting that big sound.
@@LucasMessore awesome. I appreciate you taking the time to work through the question.
Can’t say enough how much I appreciate it.
Absolutely would love to see a video regarding the expansion packs.
I own all of the GGD groove packs too. I have heard that Toontrack midi grooves can be loaded into GGD which is cool.
As for NI - I own the full studio suite. I really like the orchestral stuff as well as the various pianos and synth stuff.
Steven Slate mix rack plugins seem to work well in bringing them to life.
Steven Slate Drums seem quite nice. They have a lot of room to grow too.
I find the hardest bridge to gap when using midi vr real instruments are the nuance things.
Ghost notes , boxy spundibg symbols that seem thin etc.
I don’t know if you have any mixing videos but I’ll find out.
You got yourself a sub my dood
Thanks again!
Sam L
@@samuellauzon8168 yeah I do! Check them out will post more too re:drums as requested. Thanks dude!!
Kontakt sucks
SD3 wins
Yeah!
probably has dislikes because he mixed the audio weird his voice is quiet the drums are loud as hell
probably! will make new videos soon!
No such thing as superior drummer 4...
Lol thanks just edited