GTX cards can't run it?!?! Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth PC System Requirements Analysis
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- Опубликовано: 4 янв 2025
- Final Fantasy VII Rebirth PC benchmarks will have to wait until it releases on PC on January 23rd. But for now we get the official PC system requirements. And there is a lot of crazy stuff here.
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Requirements: 1080p/30fps, 1080p/60fps, 2160p/60fps
People at 1440p: 🤕
People at high 1080p/60fps:
🤔
People with a 4090: 💅🏻
People with ultra wide 1440p: first time?
@@mastahking5047time to wait a couple weeks for people to mod in uw
4070 will be enough.
RX 5700 XT is the biggest loser here, it's only 5 years old and plenty powerful for 1080p
It should work with DXVK
A five year old gpu not being supported by a new game isnt a big deal. Wanting to play a modern game with a gpu thats half a decade old is something news. Go back to the mid 2000s and try and run a game from 2008 on a gpu from 2005.
@@veilmontTVRebirth doesn't look any better graphically than Remake that released 3 years ago on PC. Also 5700 XT is faster than RX 6600 in minimum spec. Also Stalker 2 on UE5 with Lumen and Nanite works on it, while UE4 Rebirth won't...
Rocking My. RX6600
Yeah. I have that card (got it in 2020, so only 4 years old) and most new games run totally fine at 1440p with optimized quality settings, especially with upscaling enabled.
We're looking at like 25%+ of people who currently can't play this game based on the Steam data.
The minimum spec CPUs are quad cores while everything else is 6+ cores. The game probably likes having the extra cores and that limits the quad core performance to 30fps.
That would be hilarious.Imagin beeing CPU limited with a 6600/2060
@@Uthlebernot that hilarious. Stalker 2 is heavily cpu limited with 4060ti and ryzen 7600x, 40fps in town vs 80-100 everywhere else. So was monhun wilds to a lesser degree. Wouldn't be too surprised for this.
@@Uthleber Not really. Those are mid-low range CPUs from the time of the GTX1080 and those GPUs are close to that in performance.
I wonder if my Ryzen 5 2600 will cause a cpu bottleneck
@@Tom3kkk Maybe a bit, but it should be much faster than the 1400 because of the extra cores and higher clocks.
Windows 12: Ray tracing required
You mean path tracing :P
wish Windows 12 was already out and not half baked like Windows 11 😢
@@evilvash0 all Win versions later than 11 will have also a lot of bloatware 100%
nvidia bs required
Me: New games that are worth it required (why else would i install a new OS?)
155 GB SSD , holy cow!
Year thats a Lot. Have a 500 gb ssd and Remake need around 40, Witcher 60 and Windows 35, with rebirth 300/500 used is crazy
Game is big. It really is.
@flimermithrandir i know, Remake had a texture Mod also in the tripple digit gb Region, but real Deal is to See it myself listed
ssd storage is cheap
I have 3 TB ssd storage for years now. Stop being dramatic.
No one moves around the screen better than Daniel...
You mean the lazy editing style where he moves himself all over the screen? LOL, sorry, its a shortcut to doing a better job
Guy is a sprite.
@@gingerbread6967 I like it.
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Makes perfect sense. The CPU is the bottleneck at 30fps. At 60fps 1080p Medium you will require the better level of CPU's to reach 60fps. If you paired the 2060 with those faster CPU's it would likely be getting 45-50fps so you need the faster CPU's and then you will also need a 2070 at a minimum to hit 60fps. You don't need all the power of a 2060 to get 30fps, but it's the lowest spec RTX card available so that's the minimum GPU spec.
Do u think a 6900 xt would achieve ultra 60fps on 4k?
@@Nanako__ no
@@Nanako__ Considering they are saying that the minimum specs for 60fps 4k High is a 7900XTX then I'd say you could probably get close to 60fps 4k Medium on 6900XT. Hard to know though.
@@Nanako__no. I have a 6950XT and it's better at 1440p.
Nop. 3050..
The lack of FSR in recent games (possibly this and Indiana Jones) might be because they will have FSR 4 and AMD wants to be the one to announce it (maybe at CES). Maybe
What about Stalker 2, Silent hill 2 and dragon age veilguard? They support FSR.
Don't say nonsense.
In indiana jones it's probably because FSR is dogshit when a game has raytracing.
@@sacb0y thats why i still prefer nvidia, just cause of how great dlss is and how with them being big, forcing it down into the games.
Thats just how it is....if amd gets dlss to work one day..then it will truly shine.
Important to note here that DX12 Ultimate isn't just about those features and is a constantly developing standard (more commonly known as the Agility SDK in developer circles) and mandating that your GPU supports it pretty much only guarantees that the GPU manufacturer has committed the resources to keep it fully compliant with the latest additions to the DX12 Ultimate spec. While NVIDIA supports GTX 10 series and AMD still is pumping out updates for RX 5000 series, both of these just don't have the level of hardware accoutrement to support any of the big features and sub-features of DX12 Ultimate without software emulation and/or major performance compromises.
This to me is the same as Remedy initially only officially supporting GPUs with mesh shaders for Alan Wake 2. Your software fallback has to be watertight for you to commit to legacy GPU support.
correct, where I will note that software emulation is not always bad visually, but always visually less accurate than the full GPU accelerated one.
If I'm not mistaken, the GTX 16 series has some of the features that the GTX 10 series lacks, but not all of the features of the RTX GPUs. Hardware RT obviously, and a few other things. Maybe the GTX 16 series will be enough to run this game correctly.
Also apparently FFVII Rebirth uses some manner of Mesh Shaders, the articles called it "primitive shaders" but it's probably a similar thing.
Do you think the GTX 16 series will be able to "run it", I don't see anything that says Hardware Raytracing Required if its just Mesh Shaders then I believe the 16 series is allowed.
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I think it's a VRAM thing, not necessarily gpu power thing.
If you havenr upgraded in the last 6 years Its your fault.
@@Koustav_04 More than likely a tech thing. I bet it uses mesh shaders.
That, and they DONT LAUNCH ON PC
Seriously, they need to distance themselves from sony
Maybe don't leave PC gamers hanging for a year lol. SE is the dumbest publisher out there, they'll make ROTTR exclusive to Xbox one, the most unpopular console and complain about sales lmfao
It's 99% Mesh Shading support. They did similar stuff on PS5, (called "primitive shaders" on PS5). The game is designed around it, the whole assets and geometry pipeline. Other things like Ray tracing can be turned off it it was the case
That's what I was thinking as well. Unfortunately for people on PC who still have less capable hardware than a $299-$499 console... it is time to upgrade your hardware. It should had been clear when every console jumped on these feature sets that they were going to be unified features in the future. AMD investing more time into RT, and Sony into PSSR likely for sacrificing less image quality for RT.
If you are on PC, consoles actually give valuable information on the direction you need to go, or where you will need to be eventually. 12gb of VRAM, RT, mesh shading support.. etc. Sony actually increased their VRAM allocation to 13.5gb on the PS5 Pro, and yet people on PC still gaming on 8gb GTX GPUs that don't support RT, Mesh shading, VRS, and calling developers lazy instead of upgrading. They will upgrade at some point, as running to social media to complain for freebies and investments, is unfortunately not going to bear fruit for much longer.
thought the exact same. You just kinda need Mesh Shading for bigger landscapes
Exactly this. This is going to come up time and time again as games get ported to PC. Consoles have had this still for a while but on the PC it seems that there was a long hold out to use the feature because of how popular the 10X0GTX series was. If you look at steam surveys you'll see that later cards are finally sitting above that series which probably makes devs more comfortable phasing it out.
I loved my 1080gtx. It had a great ride but it's time has come and gone. Just like how my first real GPU (1900XTX ATI) was a beast but it came and went as well.
@@kaylee42900 especially since PC had it for 2 years longer than consoles. Some people just dont understand how PC gaming works and demand that their 10 year old hardware is still supported by new games
No FSR mention is worrisome
That won't last long. FSR is too popular
Modders will make it available day 1
It'll have it. it's unreal engine... and it will have TAA forced on. just like the first game. So you'll be able to enjoy the blurry graphics like all unreal engine games.
Bro why do you want fsr in the first place.. it's so bad..
But crazy cause pssr is a fsr variation
They increased CPU requirements 100% or more between minimum and recommended, couple that with the RTX 2070 and 2 additional GB of VRAM and odds are that's how FPS goes from 30 to 60
After hearing square talk about possibly stopping exlusivity, heres to hoping part 3 wont have to wait. As someone who already owns part 1 and 2 on ps5, id like to finish the last part on my new (unfinished) pc. Obviously, they're gonna bundle all 3 parts too.
Pretty sure Sony paid for a exclusivity deal years ago, the money is gone but the contract is there. They probably have to make all 3 games exclusive to PlayStation for a period before they sell it on pc. Maybe the future final fantasy will be crossplat again
The GTX Turing cards (1650/1660 etc) support DirectX 12 Ultimate.
This was my first thought too, but I just checked, they only support feature level 12_1, and ultimate is feature level 12_2
@@ProfRoxas Ah, Google's Generative AI lies!
@@TehJumpingJawa You'll learn to skip over the AI answers lmao
I'm still using a 1660super. Is there hope? lmao
Edit: ooof nvm. Looks like the answer is a NO.
if the game requires mesh shaders, 16 series will run it fine but if itrequires RT, RIP
I've been waiting for this game to launch for pc. This should be interesting to see how much improvement the game has gotten prior to the Remake version. Thanks for covering the pc specs, cheers.
It spanks remake. Remake looks and plays like a tech demo when compared to rebirth.
@@densetsu4286 that's pretty fucking cool. Can't wait
Assuming they didn't hide any information about upscaling. Perhaps it means low settings don't add too much performance, RX6600 A580 and RTX2060 are lowest gpus that grant around 30-60 fps (usually if gpu can't confidently hit 60fps on average they show 30fps target). I suppose 6500xt or 3050 can't even deliver consistent 30fps on average while 6600, A850 and 2060 can do more (like 45), but not quite 60fps. Also keep in mind UE games tend to favour nvidia gpus, might be the main reason why 2070 is closer to the same level as 6700xt.
but low presets is require very old cpu which is questionable, i think the cpu is bottleneck but they still add to the list because it can be play at 30fps,
The game is shipping with DLSS and no FSR according to the steam page and their website so I don't expect amd gpu's to run it stutter free the PS5 port does dynamic scaling to hit the frame targets they set.
@@MrYDKJacko so it mean the reason rtx2060 on low presets is because they enable DLSS but amd doesn't use upscaling?
theres no excuse for not including fsr in todays game, at least the upscaling. literally takes minutes to implement the basic framwork and few hours to optimize a bit. I hope they inculude it and just didnt mention it
Why?
@JasonAtlas beacuse Unreal Engine has plugins for all 4 major upscalers (DLSS, FSR, XeSS, and TSR)
@@brandon_nopeUpscaling is rubbish unless you're at 4K already let's face it.
@@jogonbro🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@jogonbro I use DLSS Balanced at 1440p
and it's near indistinguishable from native
resolution. I doubt you'd notice it unless you
have a good eye for it.
Hope we get a Demo to test it without buying
Black myth demo was such a good idea
Usually the last games that SE releases on PC come out with a demo, probably 1 or 2 weeks before the release, I'm also curious to know how it will work on my pc
Ff 16 Demo?
refund if it runs poorly
@@MagikarpPower yeah but you have to get it installed and loaded inside the refund window. I remember some people had issues with that with the latest flight simulator because of the server issues.
I am finding that system requirements charts don't make much sense lately. The Indiana Jones chart quite overshot what the game really requires to run well.
Under promise, over deliver. It's better than the other way around. Indiana Jones runs Great, but you still get people complaining about performace optimization.
@@ikswoltokyrogerg8460 Machine games have a great track record on pc ports but they aren't miracle workers people want their integrated graphics chips or 5 plus year old gpus to have 60 fps at 1080p or higher in current gen games.
An easy assumption: ~50fps -> 30fps && ~70fps -> 60fps...as it is usual to round down to 30 or 60fps you get the idea
really would love to see this benchmarked
Bemchmarked😤
Just here for the unhinged thumbnails.
How much acid do you need to drop before making an unhinged thumbnail? Yes
You know I laughed
@4:53 It makes sense if you're thinking about VRAM as the quality settings from low to medium is the key, here.
They advertised DLSS as a feature. They are definitely using it for these specs and just aren’t saying.
Nah, square isn't as shady as western companies. They're actually too stupid for their own good.
When being negative and complaining is your personality
Maybe, maybe not. Ff7 remake ran on my 1660ti mobile just fine.
Genuinely don’t understand how the first one didn’t have these requirements but now it does. Like buddy I won’t ever upgrade a graphics card for a single game and if this is the case, AMD and nvidia should at least have a ff7 bundle available
The first game targeted 2013 hardware (PS4) while this one targets 2020 hardware (PS5). And yeah, it's ultimately the same engine, but the target platform can make a pretty big difference like we've seen with past releases.
well in the first place if you are rocking gtx 1000 serries or even older , that's the real problem lol. Don't expect to get 15+ years of support lol.
as someone already stated, different hardware targets and different scope make a huge difference on system requirements. the first game was a linear game with a lot of corridors, this one is a proper open world game with seamless design. they’ve talked a little bit in interviews about overhauling the renderer for this game to support the open world and i have to imagine mesh shaders played a role in that
if you running a 10 series cards, its an 8 year old card. Its about time to upgrade. The 1080Ti is slower, has less VRAM, no RT performance and poor upscaler compared to a modern $250 card
@@imo098765 the mighty 1080Ti have fallen.
They need to add ultrawide support to that bundle
If it doesn’t, I imagine a modder will have UW support ready day one. This game will be way too popular not to.
I would imagine you'll still be able to run the game on a GTX 1080 card on lower settings. I think it's more of a guideline or recommendation than a must have feature.
8:45 - they're saying Ultra textures require 16GB... not much of a mystery tbh
Textures aren't any better then ps5 and the ps5 has textures ranging from psp grade to ok-ish grade. The game shouldn't need that much vram
@@alumlovescakeliterally in the trailer it say upgraded viduals and textures
@@vampiszon6620 literally on the website they explain it is better mipmaps and better LOD
better LOD and better mipmaps is NOT the same thing as better models and textures
It's the Mesh Shaders, don't have to look beyond that, there's no need for RT speculation, it would have been part of the announcement and the requirement chart.
The same happened with Alan Wake 2 at launch.
Prove it
@@Joshuahembra Ray Tracing is a big feature that every developer/publisher wants to show, no announcement, and no requirement for it, is enough prove.
Aside a small portion of prior PS exclusives, like Ratchet and Clank, how many got RT?
And then Alan Wake 2 was a sales failure and the devs had to make it compatible with GTX cards to manage to break even... guess this game will have to get the same treatment.
@@KnightofAges
Prolly had more to do with exclusive epic launch.
Gtx cards are outdated and people should look to finally upgrade
@@nabilos121 kinda crazy to me that people are expecting a 7 year old card to run the latest and greatest. RTX 2060 is dirt cheap rn, same with the 3000 series
Yes, benchmark this game and all future ones, maybe some past ones as well. I'd say use some mid-range and low-range parts for some of us not running big baller machines.
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It's most likely Mesh shader support like Alan Wake 2. The first gen RDNA cards do not have that but the RTX 2000 upwards do despite the RX 5700xt being faster than the 2060
At least gtx 16xx have support.for it
The first game ran almost perfectly with my GTX and I can still play many recent games with no problems. BUMMER!!
GTX 1000 series are now 4 generations old in January or 9 years old now.
People will always complain, they got more than console generation of support, I think we give them a rest and don't hold ourselves back anymore.
Careful you will get attacked by some people who claims they are fighting againts "unoptimized game" when it is 100% reasonable to not support GTX and older series due to their lack of DX12 Ultimate and mesh shader especially now that we are gonna be in 2025 already
hard agree, the 10-series was always gonna have to give up the ghost sooner or later with Gen9 games. as this gen goes on it’s gonna be like rocking an 8800 GTX when the 1080 Ti came out, which you really don’t have to do when AMD and Intel have really reasonable upgrade options on the market right now
if we aren't holding ourselves back then nvidia and amd needed to deliver budget gpus that are at least faster then the 10 series flagships the 4060 being barely faster then a 1080 ti was pathetic otherwise you get people complaining thou the fact sqaure isnt telling us specifically why isnt helping
A gringo thinking, in Europe and Rest of America we drive cars from 1970, but in videogames, the games don't look as good to force you use etc cards, I understand if is a 1060, 1060, but a titan, 1080ti, 5700 XT, they just trying justify his high costs
It is not about that. Some of those cards are powerful enough to run the game and are not allowed to do so just because the developers don't want to. Lazy optimization and cutting off "old" (and still powerful) hardware is becoming a trend of game studios nowadays. Imagine you have a perfectly working vehicle and someone told you you are not allowed to drive in certain areas just because of the car model, ¿Does it make sense?
Yes please benchmark! I am thinking about getting it to run on my RX7800XT but not if it’s going to be a blurry mess. I am expecting visuals on the same level as a PS5 Pro.
Wasn't square complaining that they don't have enough sales for final fantasy rebirth? Why limit how many can play your game like this?
Exactly! Right! This modern PC games, is like the developers don't want to sell them to the most PC gamers possible!
I think it was ff16, back when it launched for PC, that game run like crap, part of the reason it didn't sell well for PC, and based from this hardware requirement, rebirth will probably run poorly as well.
@@tomthomas3499main reason is actually loss of hype and probably even the PSN requirement. They release it so late, that ppl either already played it, or may not be as much interested. The Playstation account PSN requirement is just BS... Although I can create an account, many users can't or won't even want to.
Imagine forcing an account for a single player game just to sell our data FFS 🙈
So if i have a 1660 super i cant play? crazy i just played wukong and baldurs gate 3 and i will not be able to play this game :(
Did they ever fix all the issues with FF7 Remake on PC?
I eventually got so frustrated I refunded it, but I'd want to go back & beat it before playing Rebirth.
There was a ton of camera stutter, (especially in cutscenes), but I eventually found a workaround, only for the workaround to introduce huge screen tearing. On top of that, the HDR was never working & would just turn everything almost gray scale & dull.
There was more, but those are the issues I remember most.
I'm always worried about buying Square Enix games on PC, because they almost never go back & support them if they have issues. The Kingdom Hearts games I skipped, as they brought them to Steam with all the same problems they had on EGS... no fixes.
No they did not, modding is the only way of fixing it
That stuttering was you running out of vram. It dosnt stutter when you have enough vram for the resolution you are trying to play at. I know because I had a 3070 ti that stuttered badly, but silky smooth when i upgraded to a 6950xt.
@@Dempig Is that what the issues were? I didn't even buy the game until I upgraded from a 1070 to a 7900xt, so I was just assuming all the gripes were fixed lol.
dont' know ur Setup, but hdr Looks Great on my 4k uhd freesync Display with my 290 vaporX oc.
U need to tun on hdr in Windows on, than in the game, than in the Monitor if needed, at my Display it Works after the Relaunch of the game without more settings
@@Dempig i have a 4gb 290 and it didnt stutter Low texture on 4k.
Year i have a Bit hard time Pop ins but beside that it need 3.2-3.8 gb (outside shinra building or fateghost Fights its full, and sometimes in integrade dlc but in a Fight it doesnt madder cause of yuffies Dodge ability often needs Tactical mode
I just love Daniel Owen's videos where he speculates about features used based on system requirements. 👍
Gotta fuel that fire 🔥
I'm just confused about the OS requirements.
So with a 7800xt and a 5800x3d, I'm gonna be stuck at 30fps/1080p cuz I'm on windows 10? SE just continuing to show they don't understand PC gaming at all, other than they need to do it to make more money.
Yeah i find the OS requirements strange too. I have a 10th gen i5 Intel with 7800XT.
I think it has to do with direct storage
I played Cyberpunk 2077 on AMD VII + fx-8150 + Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit, without significant problems. So it is quite possible to run this game on older systems that are not formally sufficient.
Based off what the performance mode looked like on PS5 im not surprised lol
The GPU/CPU going from low to medium makes senses if you consider that the CPU that are listed are the lowest parts you should use in term of performance, effectively limiting the game at around 30 fps, and the GPU are the cheaper models available in term of features. The unknown part is that we don't know what features is determining that choice for the GPU and how strictly necessary it will be.
I'm glad this is coming out for PC soon. Just beat Remake, and it was awesome. I am currently finishing up Crisis Core and then going to hop right into this. The stars aligned for me on this one. I did not want to play Rebirth on the PS5.
This game is the reason i am upgrading from 1070 ti to a RTX 5080/5090
and going from Intel i7 9700k to a amd ryzen 9 9950x3d when it launches!
i am so hyped!
Just my opinion but I think the reason they listed the rtx2060 and rx6600 as the minimum is because those are the lowest end cards that support direct x 12 ultimate. So they had to use them even though I bet they get over 30fps in game. The thing that limits it to 30fps in min specs is definitely the cpu. So that’s why graphically there isn’t a big jump is because I bet the rtx2060 can play the game at 60fps low but paired with a ryzen 5600 or equivalent. They just didn’t have a gpu below a 2060 to place in the lowest tier.
I would love to have an in depth benchmark of this game. I've waited for the remake of 7 for years, and when it finally game out it was Playstation exclusive. I stayed spoiler free in case of changes to the story, played remake on my 1080ti, it played decent. And now been waiting for rebirth and remained spoiler free, listening to Square Enix talking about how much their games have failed, not reaching expected sales numbers (selling exclusives, no wonder) and been wanting to support it by buying it day 1 on PC, now suddently not so sure...
i have a 1080ti as well. hope it works. i got the game bundle that includes the first game.
This game is goated, already bought it again. Hopefully PC day one for the next one
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I have a PC with a 4070 and I just now bought this on ps5 few weeks ago... and NOW they drop it on PC
Keep it for Gta6 and ghost of yotei
Same bought it on black friday for ps5 and now I am wondering if I should finish it on ps5 or buy it again on steam because my 4070 will obviously run it much better.
I really needed this video. The fact it was incompatible with GTX cards was very upsetting- never had this problem with any game before!
Indiana Jones game. This is how it goes. The system requirements keep going up.
@usul573 for me, it was Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
This game is the reason i am upgrading from 1070 ti to a RTX 5080/5090
and going from Intel i7 9700k to a amd ryzen 9 9950x3d when it launches!
i am so hyped!
I heard about the requirements and i am goin to upgrade, it does suck to be fair!
@@elsa9026 Final Fantasy VII Rebirth has me going from a GTX 1070 to an RTX 4060.
@@travelerwatanabe ooh , thats not bad at all :D
The jump from 2060 to 2070 I really feel it's a typo, they really must have meant 3070 since it's more comparable to the 6700XT.
My guess is that because the 2060 averages just below 60fps they round down to 30fps while the 2070 can average around 60fps
@@crestofhonor2349 But there are better AMD equivalents at that performance level, such as the 6600XT. The RX 6600 is pretty close already, but the XT is the one that actually beats the 2070. Maybe it has to do with ray tracing then, because the 6700XT is considerably better than the 2070.
@@LuizFernando-li1du at the medium preset? I doubt it because the original game didn’t ship with RT nor did they specify it in the trailer. We will see at launch but I don’t think it’s ray tracing. I think it’s just Squeenix pairing up the GPUs because they assume the 6600 is equal to the 2060 because they’re supposed to compete with each other
@@crestofhonor2349 The trailer did claim that it has "improved lighting", so it could be ray tracing. But it's weird that they didn't call it "ray tracing" right away, so I believe you're right.
Maybe the minimum settings are cpu bound and they wanted to show what it takes to get to 1080p 30 low. So possibly recommended settings would work with minimum settings gpus and a better cpu.
If any of you played rhe ps5 version it's obvious why you need a beefy gpu to plsy this. The open world is huge and it's an amazing game.
PS5 isn't beefy though
You mean it's obvious why we'd need a better CPU right?
Game is CPU bound due to being open world, so finding it weird how they don't require even better hardware...
Fingers crossed that the Devs aren't using DLSS.... 😵💫
It's a 1/3rd of a game
@@FantomMisfit It isn't beefy yet it's designed to handle stuff like UE5 demos that RTX 3080s still struggle with. Sometimes it's not about power but the memory bus systems and all that.
@@jyubei_ichimonji it supports DLSS
Man wth the original ran at 120 fps on 1080p they doing this BS is bizarre
Hopefully there is a demo so I can decide if I will actually get it or not, if there isnt its whatever not upgrading my rig for this
Raytracing: Noisy
Resolution: Blurry
Framerate: Fake
Welcome to the new age of gaming, hope you enjoy your stay.
To be fair, if you buy a $1500 video card it fixes all that 😂
@ Heh, glad to see this went right over your head.
@@JackFoxtrotEDMit didn’t, I was kidding as well.
It’s going to be a few years until all this settles down.
@@shassabo Honestly I'm just glad the B580 exists now. Should help even out the playing field.
All 3 together = input lag
Jumping between 1080p/30fps/Low and 1080p/60fps/Med might not totally be attributable to the GPUs. What if the 60fps is provided by the jump of CPU power, which is a significant one(and the GPUs could do 60fps in 1080p Low) and the jump in GPUs only facilitates the change from Low detail to Med... makes perfect sense to me.
Well, time to upgrade anyway. Especially for PoE 2 & recent/future games.
8 years with my GTX 1080 without issues. Impressive run buddy.
I retired my 1080ti this year, this series was truly something to behold. 7 years of flawless gaming performance, that was a good run !
it will work on that card, it's unreal engine.
@@ricky_pigeon That doesn't mean it'll work... they can do stuff in Unreal that could increase the requirements. This whole video is about the requirements of the game saying that GTX cards will not work.
@@AyaWettsit's not saying that it will not work, it's not listed. meh i cba to argue with you. it'll work and it'll work on things like steam deck too. it will still use unreal engine 4 which is old. The only thing they likely updated is the dx12 API and it will work even on those cards that don't support it. for example 700 and 900 gtx series didnt support dx12 either but they can run dx12 games.
@@ricky_pigeon The requirements aren't DX12, or DX12_1... but DX12_2... its a little different, as almost every DX12 game out is made for old DX12. This is only the second game I recall ever saying it requires DX12_2 minimum. Steam Deck is RDNA2 GPU, so yes, that'll support it. There are specific things in the hardware required for certain features that just are not there and there is not any software fallback. It really depends on what features they are using if it will work. Hopefully it will.
The upgrade in lighting and textures is enough to start making pcs sweat at 1440p or higher 😅
I get people have a ton of love for the Pascal cards and will forever hold them to their hearts, but it is 2024. those cards are 6+ years old. in 2013 did you expect an 8800 gts to run battlefield 4 at high settings? Yall should have a 20 series at minimum by now. There is no excuse to expect a card that old to still be able to run new games in 2025 and onward.
I mean I'm with you, but I think the GPU shortage kind of fucked with peoples perception of upgrade cycles.
@@tguit-fiddler5692 for one we are not in a pandemic anymore. these people whine about prices but amd offers a great deal for 350$ with plenty of vram. you could get a used 3080ti for 400$. theres no excuse anymore. intel is offering a massively great deal with their new lineups and have excellent RT performance way above amd and on par with nvidia. pascal is ancient. if they cant even afford a used 2080 super then idk what to tell you. these people expect to run everything with their 7 year old graphics card.
@@diddykong9366 no I agree, its just like everyone collectively skipped 1-2 generations due to being priced out and/or what they had was good enough and its got their mentality a bit screwed up. Thats all I'm sayin' lol
@@tguit-fiddler5692 well with a new generation of gpus theres no more excuses. if theyre sitll running almost decade old cards and expect to run everything at native res at high or even medium 60 fps theyve lost their minds.
@diddykong9366 buddy I work for minimum wage in south afrika 😂 guess my hobby is over gotta find something else to do 😂 wish I lived in a 1st world country 😂
The impression I get from those requirements is that the minimum barely makes it to 30 FPS regardless of the GPU because how much CPU ressources is needed to process everything in the open world where a faster CPU combined with an upgraded scheduler found in Windows 11 would do it if you want 60 FPS.
And the bigger the VRAM pool so you don’t have to stream as much data and as often coming from the NVMe, to the RAM and then to the VRAM.
It's frustrating because the requirement doesn't really feel justified, ike you said. My 1080 ti is still running remake at 4k 60 fps. I understand that rebirth has bigger open world areas, but so does elden ring. So unless there is a patch that disable the rtx requirement i can't buy it on pc, even though i wanted to support them.
Yep I bought remake day one , gonna skip this one
It’s likely mesh shaders which is a feature on the consoles and missing on the 1080.
Game doesn't use ray-tracing as far as I know, and nothing in the trailer was indicative of it, just more likely a case of them using that specific version of the DirectX SDK, therefore locking out cards that don't support it. Interestingly, it is a UE4 title, so you would think you can use DX11 by passing in some parameters, but we'll have to see.
Yes, please benchmark this one Daniel!
I own the game on PS5, but the performance is so dogwater that I'm considering checking on my PC rig.
My CPU is better than the console, so I was hoping for better perf since the game is very CPU bound...
Although those requirements are mega weird, so really hoping for your benchmark expertise on this one Daniel 😅
I have an i7-10700 and RTX 4070. Based on the system requirements chart, I should be able to max out graphics settings at 1440p.
Yup
Another game ruined thanks to Nvidia putting their grubby hands all over it first. Basically at this point if the game has a nvidia logo with no FSR... no buy.
I doubt this was Nvidia
And requires 12GB minimum. Thanks again for 8GB Nvidia. 🤧🥲
@ that’s at 4k
Can my 7600X + 7800XT run Ultra at 1440p/60fps? Hard to determine from this table.
FFS dude, i3 8100 vs i5 10400 and you wonder why it's 30 against 60. 6600/2060 is simply MINIMUM GPU to run this game, and yes probably it can do 45-50 fps with r5 3600, but not with i3 8100 !!!
The GTX 16 series supports more features than the GTX 10 series. It's not quite DX12 Ultimate, but was enough for it to perform better than the GTX 10 series in Alan Wake 2. Maybe it will be enough in this game as well.
I Hope so.
We shouldn't be surprised that games are requesting GPUs that are 6 years old or newer. Imagine playing with a GPU from 2004 back in 2010. We would have called that insanity. We need to push technology so that we keep advancing. We don't want to looking at the same graphics for another 6 years, do we?
People just expect their computer to last forever. Tbh for how much entertainment you get out of a pc over the years its a really cheap hobby. Ever met someone who owned a jeep?
Or collects lego
Current gen graphics are general much WORSE than graphics from 2018, we pretty much peaked on graphics 5+ years ago until we can confidently support real life level of details.
The issue is simple, developers don't care anymore and large Corporations are not happy if we do not buy into their new products every year. It's called CONSUMERISM aka GREED.
The same thing happened with Windows 7, I was using it till last year, I was able to play almost every game that was released that said "w7 not supported".
Microsoft COULD have added Directx 12 to W7 but CHOOSE not to so they could sell more Windows 10 and 11 licenses.
But there are tools that allow you to add Dx12 to games to bypass this "not supported" BS.
It's not that they can't support older cards it is that they WON'T because they do not respect their customers.
In 2010 even cheap cards were faster than most 2004 cards but now budget cards are still around the same performance as the GTX 1080 Ti or RX 5700 XT. It wouldn't be a problem if 150-200€ cards were way faster than the 5700 XT and 1080 Ti
@@Pasi123 There's more to GPUs than pure rasterization. There's feature sets, hardware (hardware accelerated ray tracing for example), and architecture. GTX is aging in feature sets and hardware, even if it's able to keep up in everything else. Even then it's only the GTX 1080 Ti that's holding any weight in todays gaming landscape. A 4K flagship card reduced to a budget 1080p card that struggles with max settings. The rest of the 1000-series is struggling to keep up.
Im pretty sure its VRS but its really really weird there is no option to avoid it
Daniel the GOAT
So my R7 5700x with rx 6700xt only able to get med setting on 1080p?? It’s unacceptable!!
Why no 1440p requirements??
1440p isn't supported.
1440 isn't supported
4070 for 1440p 60fps
Devs lazy when they wrote this sheet. Just wait for benchmarks on release. These ain't right anyways like Daniel is saying... Very fishy requirements
Rtx 6969
Ive been doing pc gaming for decades now and those system requirement specs are still as confusing today as ut was in the 90s... Perhaps you can say its getting worse now due to all the myth that stems from PCMR meme.
Back then minimum req means : here's our game, you can try it with these kind of hardware, slide show can be expected.
Recommended req means : well here's the kind of hardware you can expect to play our game with at average game settings and average performance, you definitely can expect hiccups here and there though.
Card from 2016 cant run it? Whooaa man what a miracle, I remember times when flagship card were getting old after just 6 months or 1 year at best. Nowdays, younger gamers are too soft they dont know what is a real low-end and slideshow frames gaming from early 2000s.
yep. they want the games at 2000 prices too. :D
@@CurtOntheRadio i just wish games stay at 60 dollar/euro for the normal release, and no regional bullshit like how america pays 60 dollars meanwhile hungary has to pay 70 euro for the same game
if they cant make a game that looks as good as rdr2 at 4k while running as smooth as q3a at 800x600, its 100% bad optimization. why should i upgrade from the card i bought 10 years ago just because devs are so stupid they cant do this simple task?
@@seresrobertwoodoo2451 Yes. Although it's a small price to pay to not have Trump as President. ;)
@@CurtOntheRadioMan Trump living in your head rent free 😂
The slight jump at the GPU also might mean the game would be CPU bottlenecked with the minimun requirements, and with the bump it can do more even though the GPU didn't need as much of a jump.
2TB SSDs are pretty much obsolete now lmao.
Sounds like bs. Unless you're chronically downloading games and playing 20 games a week, 2 TB is more than enough.
As a normal person, I have a hard time even keeping up with 2 games, so 200 GB of free space would already be enough for me, since most of the games I own don't even exceed 80 GB.
You just have a few games that exceed 100 GB, and not-so-smart people try to use that to say that that's the new standard or something.
That is why the MB has a 2nd slot!
@DBTHEPLUG almost every new game from the past 2 years are 100gb+ with a few hit 250-300gb.
@@xxzenonionnex7658 Ehm? You must've been playing some strange games.
Here are some of the games I've played this year:
Elden Ring + Shadow of The Erdtree: 66.2 GB
Last Epoch: 23.06 GB
Persona 3 Reload: 18.82 GB
Palworld: 21.6 GB
Dragon's Dogma 2: 66.75 GB
Deadlock: 25.38 GB
Metaphor Refantazio: 80.4 GB
Path of Exile 2: 86.58 GB
Throne & Liberty: 82.59 GB
Dragon Ball Sparking Zero: 27.68 GB
Tekken 8: 109.84 GB
I've only been able to find 1 new game that exceeds 100 gigs. Where are the other ones at? I've never even seen a game exceeding 175 gigs in my life.
@DBTHEPLUG bm wokong, ff xvi, ff xv, cod, Indiana jones, tk8, and ark se. i refused to play that game anymore because it's 400gb.
Very interested in the benchmarks!
I wonder how my RX 6800 would hold with this game...at least on Ultra
1080p Ultra +60 FPS should be fine I assume. But I don‘t know
Should be higher than the PS5’s 1512p in performance mode.
@@crestofhonor2349 Idk, all I am hoping is that I can run it at 60fps with none of that motion blur stuff.
@@megasalamence4868 it’s a PC game. You can always turn off motion blur
8:56 there is a RTX 2060 12GB version that came out 2 years ago. That could be the specific one there recommending, but still very vague and confusing overall
Far as I know, Indianna Jones is the first ray tracing game only, can't say I'm surprised that more are coming now.
Avatar may have been but it doesn't add much for the RT tax, once you see a thing being done like that it becomes the future if it sells/sooner or later.
technically it was Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition but that came after the base game
RTX 2000 series is almost 3 generations ago, so I guess it's not so bad considering.
Just a reminder... the GTX 10 series cars are 8.5 years old at this point. That's ancient in the PC world. I'm not surprised that newer games are requiring hardware sets outside of their capabilities.
The GTX 1660 TI is a 5 year old GPU, so it doesn't make sense for it not to run new games.
Just stop copy-paste.
@ as someone who grew up during a time when the GeForce 4 MX and GeForce 4 Ti existed at the same time, people should have known this was eventually going to happen.
@@whoami8937 that was a low end GPU back then so it makes perfectly sense
PS4 came out in 2013
PS4 games look better then rebirth
The 1080Ti came out almost 8 years ago and the 1600 series of GTX cards came out nearly 6 years ago (if you factor both released in Q1 of their release years). I understand many games don’t get optimized well and yada yada, but these cards are practically a console generation’s worth of time behind. People want great games and new technology and experiences, but freak the hell out when the games require the hardware to support said wants. It’s a constant cycle of complaining as usual.
As long as your graphics cards aren’t older than 4-5 years you’re usually ok for a comfortable gaming experience for a wide breadth of games. Save your money for GPU upgrades every half a decade. You don’t keep a phone or a laptop as long when you’re trying to run the latest and greatest. 🤷🏻
Also, game spec requirements usually have a tendency of being a little more demanding/overblown than they actually are for the sake of having a good cushion in spec requirements.
Why didn't you cover Path of Exile 2? Nothing to complain about?
im playing PoE2 on a 5600X CPU with a 5700XT Nitro+ GPU and 32 GB RAM at 4K with quality upscaling at 60fps
@@HoretzYT Right. I'm wondering why he didn't cover that.
Is it because PoE2 runs fine on GPUs with 8 gigs of vram, even at 4k? It kinda goes against the narrative of this channel.
with that req. square enix will wonder why its not selling well 😁😁
The GTX cards, except for the 1650, aren’t even that common. RTX cards now dominate the most popular cards on steam
@@crestofhonor2349 Still, out of the top 20 cards more than 10% are GTX, which isn't a lot but isn't tiny too
huh, i thought it was the pc masterrace, but i see people complaining that upgraded x years ago. huh..
This isn't about PC Master Race here. Just terrible optimization and terrible era of games.
Not going to be a good turn out for them, most low end nvidia cards can't even do RT without a huge hit to performance.
Reminds me of moving off my GTX 1070 for Alan Wake 2. It's gotta be the mesh shaders
That PC requirement chart looks like a red flag to me. Feels like this may well be one of those half-assed PC ports.
Will PSSR be supported in the future?
I mean why would it be. This is on pc not on console
Praying it isn't a blurry mess like the PS5 version is
Bruh it’s PC come on now loool
The PS5 version had awful TAA. DLSS is significantly better and same goes for many other AA and upscaling techniques available on PC
The Remake version has DRS by default. Unlocking the fps could disable DRS as well. 🤷🏻♀️🥴
I dont feel like the sheet is too crazy. A PS5 has round about a 2070, so asking for a 2060 in a port is actually pretty generous, same goes for the CPUs which are quiet a bit below the consoles (on low). DirectX Ultimate is probably there because Win10 launched without it and it got patched later, Win11 ships by default, thats why they mention if, you gotta update Win10. I guarantee you the game needs mesh shaders, which makes sense and honestly nobody should be buying new games expecting 9 year old GPUs to run it. We can talk about the 155GB tho.
I'd like to see you do some PC testing on the game. Curious why the requirements are the way that they are.
I do enjoy these videos to be on the loop about how technology is evolving, talking about games and hardware, but on the other hand I'm glad AF that I can just not give a flying f' about any of it since I've got 24GB of VRAM. lol
The B580 is literally faster than the RTX 2070. This spec sheet is bullshit
It says A580 not B580
My pc wasn’t supported by FF16, I downloaded the demo and tried it. I was watching a slideshow. I’m guessing that is what would happen.
My favorite game, but I still have my 1660 super :c
Upgrade that old ahh gpu
Sell it for 90$ and buy new
Reminds me of the old days where i needed a new gpu for shaders to play the first Splinter Cell