My dad passed from covid-19 few months back and sitting here making fun reminds the banters my dad & I have however, his dad my grandpa age 99 we have the same relationship. Enjoy all the time you have with him
hi guys ,i wanted two throw my two cents in and say that i have unseized quite a few engines in my life time. and you guys did a good job and a lot of work! and oiling everything like you did was great! I just wanted to say that before i would have taken the engine all apart,i would have taken the starter out and put a bar on the teeth of the flywheel and had your buddy pull on the breaker bar at the same time that really helps ! I just got done unseizeing an old case tractor gas motor, we tried the breaker bar on the crank method,it would not move ,we tried to tow the case with it in gear and the breaker bar on it at the same time ,and still no go!! then i pulled the starter and put the bar on fly wheel teeth and pryed it and breaker bar at the same time,and it startrd turning over. next day it was running! i hope my two cents helps you guys on the next engine . Good Luck and nice job !
Nice tip! I have never done that but see how it would help. Do you have any suggestions for an engine that cranks over easily, but the rings are stuck from sitting for 3yrs? Tried pouring atf & acetone in cylinders with no luck. Thanks
Unseizing an engine can be a daunting task, especially if you intend to use the old pistons. The key is determining which cylinder(s) are actually seized. I've unseized some hydraulically, with an adapter through the spark plug hole, old oil and a Lincoln grease gun. You can get 3000 psi out of a good grease gun. I've unseized John Deere D cylinders (6.75" bore) and reused the pistons...
Do you have any suggestions on unseizing an engine for a 2012 camaro v6 ? I bought the car a month ago and wasn't aware the car was low on oil and all of a sudden it just turns off on me and now I can't even get it to crank it just clicks when I turn the key.
@Brian Reed You're absolutely right, Brian. I'm going by engines that were running and then sat for a long time. If a piston collapsed and welded itself to the cylinder then you've got a completely different situation, often handled by a BFH, or a hydraulic press...
You might have a chance that it was only one rod that seized. Drop the pan and look for the rod cap(s) that are dry, or dry main cap(s). Remove the cap and you'll probably see evidence that the bearing spun. It can amount to a rod, or merely polishing the crankshaft journal and installing a new bearing. Sometimes it's fairly minor but never get too confident. A lot of modern engines can get wiped out in a nanosecond...
The beauty of working on cars is that you dont NEED to have any idea or reason to work on and repair them. Its just fun, and personally its therapeutic to me.
I had a older olds 455 that was stuck. Without taking off the heads I dosed it with everything I could think of. Well, buddy of mine said, dry it out, poor and fill each cylinder with coke. So got it dried out, dumped in several liters of coke, spun that engine over 1/2 hour later. Great believer in that method. Try it some time.
Method I've used for years, my dad was a mechanic up into the 1950s 1 gallon diesel, 1qt kerosene 1qt ATF works like a charm every time whether it's a car boat tractor or lawn mower
@@haywoodhawkins735 pick one gallon of diesel one quart of transmission fluid and 1/4 of kerosene makes it up fill the entire crankcase until you can't get any more in until you can see it just below the oil fill cap, then take out the plugs and do the same with each cylinder if there is an open valve some may run into the tailpipe but it won't make that much difference put every put the plugs back in and let it set for a few days then take a large breaker bar on the end of the crank try moving it back and forth a little at a time it will break loose it may take about a week or so but it will work. Of course this is assuming there's nothing mechanically wrong with the engine
Haha yes they are! Glad you like it, unfortunately the series will not go as long as the 65 fastbacks. But i might switch ships and start on another cougar of ours
I love 60-80's engines, they are so simple and last forever. 90's and up started throwing all the electronics and such into the mix which have their perks but make things less DIY.
I broke loose a friends 429, sitting for 10 years, with 150psi into a spark plug hole after checking rotor to see which cyl had just fired. Could have checked valves to see both closed but was in a hurry. Sat few days with break free in all cyls first. Some turning by breaker, then crank with starter, fresh gas, and she started. Currently being restored.
Mike You are so lucky to be working with your dad on these cars try to have him in as many as possible I used to work with my dad and treasure all the memories he now has Alzheimer and dose not recognize anything or anybody what I would do to have videos of us working together and your pops reminds me of mine just a wealth of knowledge
That's what this car was going to be a parts car for😎👍 we have another 67 cougar. Original 390 car. Much better shape but just a roller at the moment... In due time
Hi guys. When i was a kid i watched a friends dad do this. Six cyl. 57 chevy. Got unstuck. Burned oil but ran good. Four door. Chopped backend off, homade el camino! Old Marty drove it for years.I am looking forward to seeing the 289 run once more. Theyre great engines.
I LOVE 1967-1970 Cougars with a passion for 1968s. The 289 is my favorite Ford small block. I'll be honest, I drew up in a knot when you broke out the torch to try to free it up. No way in a very hot place would I ever have done that. Glad it worked out for you.
This one is a huge project and will still probably be turned into a parts car for another one of our 67 cougars (390 GT Cali car). But it's just an experiment, like I said most would've thrown the engine in the trash being seized. Well see how she acts in the next episode... who knows!
I had a 1957 272 y-block that was completely froze up. I filled the cylinders with Marvel Mystery Oil and got it running pretty quickly after that. You can't kill those old engines. I like it.
My dad bought a brand new 1969 xr-7 trim package with the 428 cobra jet. Man now talk about a bad ass car this car flew! I remember the power in it like it was yesterday. He ended up selling the car in 1988-89ish unfortunately. I wanted that car so bad too. Mercury only made something like 500 with the 428cj in 69. In 68 they made both the 427&428cj. Both of those cars had very small production numbers with that engine. Everyone went the 289, 351w and 390’s for 1968. All three were stout engines for this chassis. 1967-70 cougars were awesome cars for sure.
Save The Cougars! Good job Guys...Nice use of Liquid Wrench ...to Quench! ... I guess part of the reason to get it moving in the car (even if you plan to take it further apart)..is leverage...a stuck engine on a stand would just tip over...and much wrestling would follow. As for the rust...you have to replace it anyway instead of doing a patch...so big chunk or small..it is the same process. A buddy had one in high school and I got my hand caught troubleshooting the headlight door...(ran on engine vacuum!)..ouch!
@@stevenjordan6389 I like the idea, but my 52 Buick piston tops are dished and domed, so that approach would put all the pressure and impact on a small area of the dome. Calls for some fancy sculpting, maybe.
My son has a 68 Couger , he was lucky San Jose Cal. Car , zero rust , even underneath the heater core , passenger side . That area always rusted out , on Mustangs Falcons and Cougers.
I had a straight 6 Chevy stuck tried several things then pulled the head and let Marvels mystery oil sit for a couple weeks and still no luck. I pulled the engine out, tipped it up on the flywheel, pulled the oil pan. I pulled a rod cap and used a 2 by 2 and hammer to break each piston loose then reinstalled and torqued the rod cap. After repeating until free. I used plenty of wd 40 and paper towels to clean rust out of the cylinders, lightly oiled the cylinder wall and put it back together. I got lucky on that Hail Mary repair. The truck ran fine and didn’t use excessive oil.
I have a 68 xr7 289 from the looks of it factory AC power steering power disc brakes Craigslist buy at midnight . Guy said I'll sell it at any hour if you have cash . Light seafoam Green on green interior. Yup engine is stuck too
I haven't seen that trick before. It makes sense though. Looks like everything was in pretty good condition in there to begin with. I'm sure they helped. Nice job. It's awesome that you and your dad can do that stuff together.
Nor have we, but that's why we gave it a shot... not sure how everything will play out but we've broken it free and that's all that matters right now! I was actually pretty surprised at how clean it was... I think the diesel played a part in that. Dad and I try to do everything we can together! People say parents can't be best friends, but I'm happy to say that he's my best friend
@@Theoldcarchannel. yeah you wouldn't believe how many people have got kids that they're fighting with one time my sister seen a guy out in the country on a tractor and there was like seven kids out there helping him clean up and she goes my mouth just fell open who does that? In other words close family unit - next time you do a video. Tell your dad hey dad there's people that are fighting with their kids out there and then give him a big hug and say something funny for all of us, then watch the comments flow
Just found this channel. The name caught my eye because of the 429 reference. Drove a 72 fastback with a 429 and C6 Auto. Wasn't much of a Ford guy when I got it, but as soon as I found out it would put down 10 ft of 2nd gear rubber I was impressed. The fact it got 6 MPG didn't bug me cause gas was cheap back then. The 429 was probably the most under-rated motor of the era. But they were fast...,..very fast.
For some reason, the phrase "nuclear option" comes to mind. Torching those pistons was scary, but at least the block is cast iron and can stand some stern measures. I was glad to see it turning over - a reward for boldness, determination and persistence - and that's just me, watching.
I would have done it by the much faster method - remove the engine and transmission, then disassemble on the bench. Strip to a short block, turn upside down and remove oil pan, remove caps on rod main bearings, then you can pound on the pistons to free up the stuck rings. If you are really planning on using the engine, you need to strip it down completely anyway - so you are not adding any additional work.
As the " Wicked Witch of the West " ended her career [ while she was ] " Melting, " So these pistons were " Melting into the Block " !! ( @ 11:34 ) ! I know a " Retired Buick " mechanic that would have " Cried " [ saying No No No ] had he seen this video !!
i got a 68 mustang cobra with a 428 cj people that lived by me were loading it up for scrap and i got it for 300 bucks all it needed was a tune up low miles no rust good clean body just needed restored but runs and drives after the tune up now it is all restored it even had the high rise dual quad set up on it . it took about 5000 to restore it doing the work my self
I got a 55 f100 soaking right now. Running when parked 24 yrs ago. Was my great uncle's his land was bad on "seizing" cars up when I was 15 (25 yrs back) he gave me a. 69 LTD 2dr 429 4brl he bought new and parked in 85 & it was seized up to. I didnt know nothing then & ended up selling for 100 bucks
That'll take a ton of work and I'm not sure if this one is worthy of saving... but who knows, maybe one day I'll get around to doing the structural side of things
Step one, remove spark plugs. step two, spray alot of "PB BLASTER" (not WD-40 not liquid wrench, both are junk). step three, wait 24 hours and repeat steps one and two. step four, wait 24 hours and slowly turn the flywheel with a large screwdriver back and forth (using the bolt on the front is a good way to strip it)...
I've broken an old spark plug and welded a grease nipple onto it. Then pick a cylinder that is on the power stroke and using a grease gun hydrauliced the engine over Once she breaks free then it's just clean up the grease LOL
I wouldn't bother flooding the crankcase with Diesel when it's already full of such nice clean oil. Your checking the valves and oiling the pistons and rings did the trick. I was already thinking of the wood block and hammer on the pistons tops too!
I use that Liquid Wrench too, but Deep Creep is better. I assume all the heat and diesel helped a great deal as well. Well done guys. DadPowR!! Stay gold.
@@Theoldcarchannel. That was pretty damn awesome dude... Man... i just got this feeling like it WANTTTSSS to run!!!!!!! Can't wait to see the next episode!
try this too, fill the cylinders with ATF mixed with gasoline, and light them, may also need a small rag as a wick. The heat loosens things up, and ATF-gas dissolves rust and it will leak down the piston sides.
I've got two 64 galaxies I drug up that haven't been cranked since 1972. Both have 4 barrel 390 engines with Thunderbird valve covers. Engines that simple, I'd pull and free it up on an engine stand. I don't take engines apart in the car. leave the backing plate and flywheel on. Bolt the starter to the backing plate. Free up by hand, then use the starter to test compression. Compression not good, tear it down. Compression good, crank it, I have ran into a stacked bearing a few times. You can get high leverage between transmission line up pin and flywheel tooth.
My favourite years of Cougar. My Grandad bought one brand new in 1967, his had a 390, but remember him saying that it was a fast car, but the sequential taillights were troublesome as well as the vacuum operated headlights. The rocker panels were rotten by 1973, and he traded it for a new '73 Cutlass coupe.
Interestingly enough that you mentioned a 390 67 cougar... this car in the video was going to be a parts car for another cougar of mine which is a factory 67 390 car👍
A healthy shot of Seafoam in each spark plug hole a couple hours and repeat and I bet the next morning it would have been freed up. I have unsiezed more than a few using Seafoam and a few hours its proven itself to me. BTW I have a very rare factory 68 R code. Ram Air 428 CJ - 4 speed Cougar . Its a blast to drive .
Wow! You could actually change the plugs in that thing with a ratchet and deep well. Lots of times now you have to jack the car up to get to the right side of the engine which sits on the firewall.
I’ve not heard of diesel being used before. I have heard of filling the engine with ATF. One guy told me he made plywood plates for the exhaust ports, silicone sealed and bolted them to the heads and filled the engine to the top with ATF. He was bringing old tractor engines back to life tho.
I usually just spray penetrating oil in each spark plug hole and wait a couple days. Then try to turn it. If its still seized do it again and wait. If it still doesn’t turn fill each cylinder with 5-30 It will eventually free up if it is any good at all. Forcing it is a great way to break a ring . Just be patient and let the oil do the work. Just don’t put the plugs in until it is able to push it all back out the plug hole.
Took a old 53 or so Ford F-1 flat head that set for 20 years under trees . fill all the cylinders with WD-40 and then pored the rest down the Cab and went out ever few days and gave the old braker bar a pull and push , one day after two mounts it gave way The old tires all took air and the old beast came to life after a little work and new oil - did flush out the engine crakcse with Disel like you and only used WD 40 because NAPA had a gallon of it ready and I was hopping it was a light oil that over time would soaked past the rings & pistons Those old engines are well build and should come back to life with very little trouble , its so close why don't you pull the shot block and trow some new bearing/ rings its so close to comeing out with very little trouble at its current point or just toss a new set of gaskets along with plugs and it should jump to life after cleaning the cab and setting the points Love it you guys put a fair amount of work into it Thanks for posting
I guess it's always fun to use the big red wrench. But a simpler , cheaper way to go about this task. Would be to get about a foot long piece of 2×4 , put in cylinder and hit it with a hammer
That's nuts I once bought mystery oil poured it down the cylinders through the spark plug holes and let it sit overnight , sucked out all the fluid and spun over like butter
I did the same thing to a old beat-up Indian motorcycle I bought from a barn find the old toothless man in auto parts store told me Decor Mystery Oil in after removing the spark plugs I told him that is not going to work I bought four bottles and tried it i worked like a charm
I have a 1953 Pontiac Chieftain and when I got it it had a cracked block so it's like that now I don't know how to fix it - I've heard welding the crack, using bolts I don't know what to trust, it doesn't turn over and I put Mystery Oil in it but I don't really know what I'm doing
I was picturing the dude hitting the oxygen, blowing a hole through a piston and setting off the diesel fuel and oil in the crank case. That would've been some dumpster fire there. 😂😂😂 Too bad about all the rust on that car, 67 Cougars are pretty cool. That big rust hole on the front fender is odd, I've never seen one rust such a big hole in that spot.
Haha don't you know that we're "trained professionals" 😂! It's definitely time to invest in a rose bud tip for the torches. Yeah this one is pretty rough but it's all there. It's fate will probably still be a parts car for our other 67 cougar. I agree, never seen a fender rust like this one has, rotted very long and vertically. I could understand a small spot... But this is ridiculous
I have FORD Blue Blood in my veins, I had a 1968 Cougar that was froze up, I will tell you what, I cannot believe that you put that much heat on that engine. The Cougar I had was also a 289. What I did was to take off the fan and I used a Breaker bar that was about 18" long, I had no movement so like you I tried forcing it, but she would not turn over. What I did next was I put a Good Battery in it hooked op the cables and I stood on the breaker bar and crossed the solenoid and the started kick in and broke the motor loose. I much would have rather seen you do that instead of use a Torch. Work Smarter, not harder
My dad passed from covid-19 few months back and sitting here making fun reminds the banters my dad & I have however, his dad my grandpa age 99 we have the same relationship. Enjoy all the time you have with him
Sorry to hear it. My dad gone too. Sucks. Never the same.
hi guys ,i wanted two throw my two cents in and say that i have unseized quite a few engines in my life time. and you guys did a good job and a lot of work! and oiling everything like you did was great! I just wanted to say that before i would have taken the engine all apart,i would have taken the starter out and put a bar on the teeth of the flywheel and had your buddy pull on the breaker bar at the same time that really helps ! I just got done unseizeing an old case tractor gas motor, we tried the breaker bar on the crank method,it would not move ,we tried to tow the case with it in gear and the breaker bar on it at the same time ,and still no go!! then i pulled the starter and put the bar on fly wheel teeth and pryed it and breaker bar at the same time,and it startrd turning over. next day it was running! i hope my two cents helps you guys on the next engine . Good Luck and nice job !
A good actual tip for everyone. Thanks!
A good actual tip, thanks
Niceeee!
I have a question
Nice tip! I have never done that but see how it would help. Do you have any suggestions for an engine that cranks over easily, but the rings are stuck from sitting for 3yrs? Tried pouring atf & acetone in cylinders with no luck. Thanks
Unseizing an engine can be a daunting task, especially if you intend to use the old pistons. The key is determining which cylinder(s) are actually seized. I've unseized some hydraulically, with an adapter through the spark plug hole, old oil and a Lincoln grease gun. You can get 3000 psi out of a good grease gun. I've unseized John Deere D cylinders (6.75" bore) and reused the pistons...
Do you have any suggestions on unseizing an engine for a 2012 camaro v6 ? I bought the car a month ago and wasn't aware the car was low on oil and all of a sudden it just turns off on me and now I can't even get it to crank it just clicks when I turn the key.
@Brian Reed You're absolutely right, Brian. I'm going by engines that were running and then sat for a long time. If a piston collapsed and welded itself to the cylinder then you've got a completely different situation, often handled by a BFH, or a hydraulic press...
You might have a chance that it was only one rod that seized. Drop the pan and look for the rod cap(s) that are dry, or dry main cap(s). Remove the cap and you'll probably see evidence that the bearing spun. It can amount to a rod, or merely polishing the crankshaft journal and installing a new bearing. Sometimes it's fairly minor but never get too confident. A lot of modern engines can get wiped out in a nanosecond...
Old oil can be used through a grease gun? Bet that is a lot less messy than grease
@@jrsgarage7623 No I just pour old oil into the cylinder, install the adapter and attach the grease gun. I just force grease in there...
The beauty of working on cars is that you dont NEED to have any idea or reason to work on and repair them. Its just fun, and personally its therapeutic to me.
I honestly really appreciate someone working on a Classic Cougar. One of my favorite Muscle Cars (have a 1969 fyi).
I have a black on black 69 cougar too and a 68
I had a older olds 455 that was stuck. Without taking off the heads I dosed it with everything I could think of. Well, buddy of mine said, dry it out, poor and fill each cylinder with coke. So got it dried out, dumped in several liters of coke, spun that engine over 1/2 hour later.
Great believer in that method. Try it some time.
Method I've used for years, my dad was a mechanic up into the 1950s 1 gallon diesel, 1qt kerosene 1qt ATF works like a charm every time whether it's a car boat tractor or lawn mower
a1wireless1964 do you have a certain process in adding those in or , just add em all together, I'm working on a stuck 302 myself,
@@haywoodhawkins735 pick one gallon of diesel one quart of transmission fluid and 1/4 of kerosene makes it up fill the entire crankcase until you can't get any more in until you can see it just below the oil fill cap, then take out the plugs and do the same with each cylinder if there is an open valve some may run into the tailpipe but it won't make that much difference put every put the plugs back in and let it set for a few days then take a large breaker bar on the end of the crank try moving it back and forth a little at a time it will break loose it may take about a week or so but it will work. Of course this is assuming there's nothing mechanically wrong with the engine
Not if it's a Cougar with them lines and headlights! 😆😍🦈😫
"A bit of heat, lube and muscle will loosen up every cougar" LOL :-D :-D
Won me right there
Randian Winn , he means open up !
i find wine works best
@@sqike001ton that's a pretty reliable method, too
Four coronas replaces heat lube and muscle will loosen up a Cougar
Oh man finally a Cougar!! I Love these cars big time! They are essentially a Mustang in Mercury's dress up but I think they look great!!
Haha yes they are! Glad you like it, unfortunately the series will not go as long as the 65 fastbacks. But i might switch ships and start on another cougar of ours
Hi Greg. Me too!!
I heard there was one or two made with a boss 302 in it
@@patrickmcwilliams9030 don't believe so. Boss 302s didn't come out till 69. So for 67/68 to have one is unlikely
Working over a stuck 289 will be fun to watch... a buddy of mine and i did the same in 1974.
over looked and underrated car in its day..and the Torino too..now they bring pretty good $$s..
I love 60-80's engines, they are so simple and last forever. 90's and up started throwing all the electronics and such into the mix which have their perks but make things less DIY.
I broke loose a friends 429, sitting for 10 years, with 150psi into a spark plug hole after checking rotor to see which cyl had just fired. Could have checked valves to see both closed but was in a hurry. Sat few days with break free in all cyls first. Some turning by breaker, then crank with starter, fresh gas, and she started. Currently being restored.
Mike You are so lucky to be working with your dad on these cars try to have him in as many as possible I used to work with my dad and treasure all the memories he now has Alzheimer and dose not recognize anything or anybody what I would do to have videos of us working together and your pops reminds me of mine just a wealth of knowledge
Merc was always seriously underated in my opinion.
When I was in high school, my best friend's mother had a 67 Cougar GT with a 390 Magnum. That was one fast car!
That's what this car was going to be a parts car for😎👍 we have another 67 cougar. Original 390 car. Much better shape but just a roller at the moment... In due time
What the fuck is a 390 magnum
@@lynndempsey4096 😂😂😂
Hi guys. When i was a kid i watched a friends dad do this. Six cyl. 57 chevy. Got unstuck. Burned oil but ran good. Four door. Chopped backend off, homade el camino! Old Marty drove it for years.I am looking forward to seeing the 289 run once more. Theyre great engines.
Dam good video...That's the best one yet on how to free up an engine..You ROCK guys...Keep um coming...!!!
I LOVE 1967-1970 Cougars with a passion for 1968s. The 289 is my favorite Ford small block. I'll be honest, I drew up in a knot when you broke out the torch to try to free it up. No way in a very hot place would I ever have done that. Glad it worked out for you.
This one is a huge project and will still probably be turned into a parts car for another one of our 67 cougars (390 GT Cali car). But it's just an experiment, like I said most would've thrown the engine in the trash being seized. Well see how she acts in the next episode... who knows!
Using the flywheel instead of the crank bolt would increase your torque tremendously!
YEAH - - a big flat-blade, turn it one tooth at a time. Coulda had this thing running a couple months ago.
@@peterdarr383 lol... No man get one thar wraps part way around the flywheel and has a long handle on it...
Yeah get a fly wheel tool.
I used to have a 67 Mustang 289 v8 rag top . Love ur videos. Keep them coming. Blessings and Peace
Appreciate the support and blessings! Wish you all the best aswell Scott!
“We’re all gonna die anyways! What’s the difference!”
Put that on a shirt and call it merch
😂😂
That torch sure looked to clean the heck out of the valley. Thanks for sharing. Enjoyed watching!
You know so much about fixing cars it’s unfrickenbelievable 👍Awesome job cleaning up that engine! It’ll ride like a dream in no time! 😃
Thanks Spencer, I hope So! We'll see in the next episode I guess
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I had a 1957 272 y-block that was completely froze up. I filled the cylinders with Marvel Mystery Oil and got it running pretty quickly after that. You can't kill those old engines. I like it.
My dad bought a brand new 1969 xr-7 trim package with the 428 cobra jet. Man now talk about a bad ass car this car flew! I remember the power in it like it was yesterday. He ended up selling the car in 1988-89ish unfortunately. I wanted that car so bad too. Mercury only made something like 500 with the 428cj in 69. In 68 they made both the 427&428cj. Both of those cars had very small production numbers with that engine. Everyone went the 289, 351w and 390’s for 1968. All three were stout engines for this chassis. 1967-70 cougars were awesome cars for sure.
Save The Cougars! Good job Guys...Nice use of Liquid Wrench ...to Quench! ...
I guess part of the reason to get it moving in the car (even if you plan to take it further apart)..is leverage...a stuck engine on a stand would just tip over...and much wrestling would follow. As for the rust...you have to replace it anyway instead of doing a patch...so big chunk or small..it is the same process. A buddy had one in high school and I got my hand caught troubleshooting the headlight door...(ran on engine vacuum!)..ouch!
it's gotta be great working on cars with your dad. You two work well together!
We have our fights but in the end we share the same passion/love for cars and it keeps us tight
Wooden pole size clyinder. TAP Lightly each piston go around servral times while some one applies pressure to breaker bar .TAP!
@@stevenjordan6389 I like the idea, but my 52 Buick piston tops are dished and domed, so that approach would put all the pressure and impact on a small area of the dome. Calls for some fancy sculpting, maybe.
My son has a 68 Couger , he was lucky San Jose Cal. Car , zero rust , even underneath the heater core , passenger side . That area always rusted out , on Mustangs Falcons and Cougers.
That was awesome! Especially "why." Fabulous job thank you.
Don't try using a torch on a modern car - you'll wind up with a glob of melted plastic under the hood!
aka chinese steel
Ok boomer
ok boomer
Isn't that the truth !
Newer cars are made with more chineseium?
I had a straight 6 Chevy stuck tried several things then pulled the head and let Marvels mystery oil sit for a couple weeks and still no luck. I pulled the engine out, tipped it up on the flywheel, pulled the oil pan. I pulled a rod cap and used a 2 by 2 and hammer to break each piston loose then reinstalled and torqued the rod cap. After repeating until free. I used plenty of wd 40 and paper towels to clean rust out of the cylinders, lightly oiled the cylinder wall and put it back together. I got lucky on that Hail Mary repair. The truck ran fine and didn’t use excessive oil.
Has that modern low tolerance clearance for that fancy 0wt oil, truly ahead of it's time.
I have never seen this done like this before, but that was awesome!
Nor have I, that's why I wanted to try it and post it online
How u guys worked on breaking that motor free was very cool. Seeing this done will give me something to try out!!!
Your local burn center will appreciate your business.
She'll run :) love cougars 67-70 very cool cars.
Well find out I'm the next episode! And I agree! Not very common now a days
I have a 68 xr7 289 from the looks of it factory AC power steering power disc brakes
Craigslist buy at midnight . Guy said I'll sell it at any hour if you have cash . Light seafoam Green on green interior. Yup engine is stuck too
I haven't seen that trick before. It makes sense though. Looks like everything was in pretty good condition in there to begin with. I'm sure they helped. Nice job.
It's awesome that you and your dad can do that stuff together.
Nor have we, but that's why we gave it a shot... not sure how everything will play out but we've broken it free and that's all that matters right now! I was actually pretty surprised at how clean it was... I think the diesel played a part in that.
Dad and I try to do everything we can together! People say parents can't be best friends, but I'm happy to say that he's my best friend
@@Theoldcarchannel. that's pretty awesome dude. 100% people should be best buds with their parents. He seems cool lol
@@Theoldcarchannel. yeah you wouldn't believe how many people have got kids that they're fighting with one time my sister seen a guy out in the country on a tractor and there was like seven kids out there helping him clean up and she goes my mouth just fell open who does that? In other words close family unit - next time you do a video. Tell your dad hey dad there's people that are fighting with their kids out there and then give him a big hug and say something funny for all of us, then watch the comments flow
Any 289 is worth working on & getting to run. One of Ford’s best little engines❗️🥊
Just found this channel. The name caught my eye because of the 429 reference. Drove a 72 fastback with a 429 and C6 Auto. Wasn't much of a Ford guy when I got it, but as soon as I found out it would put down 10 ft of 2nd gear rubber I was impressed. The fact it got 6 MPG didn't bug me cause gas was cheap back then. The 429 was probably the most under-rated motor of the era. But they were fast...,..very fast.
Missed the live chat. You got my favourite car. This and old twin head lamp Corvette. All the best from uk
The primere went Well, I'll do more on future episodes! Hope you enjoyed the episode
@@Theoldcarchannel. yes enjoyed very much your dad is a top bloke. Keep up the good work both of you
I was wondering when you brought the explosive, but raw power and volcanic temperatures were all that was needed. Good work and video .
I love the look of that 67!
I thought i was watching an episode of the Squidbiliies, but hey you get an upddoot for pure entertainment value
I've got a 351 Windsor that is locked up. When I parked it seven years ago behind my garage the engine was running great.
pulling the plugs and filling the clyinder with ATF and Marvel mystery oil worked on a lot of seized engines for me
Transmission fluid down the plug holes. Give it 24 hrs to soak in. I've seen it work.
same, ATf fluid is good at freeing up
Thanks I'm going to try that 👍👍
lol Coca-Cola
Oil pan should been first
I've always used ATF worked everytime
Amazing project guys, I was sweating watching it.
I always liked the styling of the cougar.
For some reason, the phrase "nuclear option" comes to mind. Torching those pistons was scary, but at least the block is cast iron and can stand some stern measures. I was glad to see it turning over - a reward for boldness, determination and persistence - and that's just me, watching.
I would have done it by the much faster method - remove the engine and transmission, then disassemble on the bench. Strip to a short block, turn upside down and remove oil pan, remove caps on rod main bearings, then you can pound on the pistons to free up the stuck rings.
If you are really planning on using the engine, you need to strip it down completely anyway - so you are not adding any additional work.
I would have done the same, too many youtubers wrecking stuff. It's a shame! Your just breaking rust free, and contaminating everything!
As the " Wicked Witch of the West " ended her career [ while she was ] " Melting, " So these pistons were " Melting into the Block " !! ( @ 11:34 ) !
I know a " Retired Buick " mechanic that would have " Cried " [ saying No No No ] had he seen this video !!
i got a 68 mustang cobra with a 428 cj people that lived by me were loading it up for scrap and i got it for 300 bucks all it needed was a tune up low miles no rust good clean body just needed restored but runs and drives after the tune up now it is all restored it even had the high rise dual quad set up on it . it took about 5000 to restore it doing the work my self
Now that’s gettin R done! 🧐 I like an old 289...they run pretty smoothly and sound good with the right exhaust ! 🥰
I got a 55 f100 soaking right now. Running when parked 24 yrs ago. Was my great uncle's his land was bad on "seizing" cars up when I was 15 (25 yrs back) he gave me a. 69 LTD 2dr 429 4brl he bought new and parked in 85 & it was seized up to. I didnt know nothing then & ended up selling for 100 bucks
Exellent video, it would be nice to see the Cougar on the road again 👍
That'll take a ton of work and I'm not sure if this one is worthy of saving... but who knows, maybe one day I'll get around to doing the structural side of things
Most reales vid on the internet when unzeising a motor…. Love the “so we just bought some diesel”😂❤
Could have rebuilt the engine in the time it took to do all that.
truth be told for sure
Worthy of a complete rebuild...I would bring the body back to life as well.
BUT YOU NEED TO UNSEIZE THE ENGINE BEFORE YOU REBUILD IT
I think I would have too, but if you can't turn it, you ain't gonna get the pistons out of the block without destroying something.
Step one, remove spark plugs.
step two, spray alot of "PB BLASTER" (not WD-40 not liquid wrench, both are junk).
step three, wait 24 hours and repeat steps one and two.
step four, wait 24 hours and slowly turn the flywheel with a large screwdriver back and forth (using the bolt on the front is a good way to strip it)...
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This is completely new to me I’ll have to try this trick
I've broken an old spark plug and welded a grease nipple onto it. Then pick a cylinder that is on the power stroke and using a grease gun hydrauliced the engine over Once she breaks free then it's just clean up the grease LOL
Becuase we needed to see, and you had the perfect example! Thanks!!!!!
Good job I want to see the next episode of it runnning
That car looks like it was underwater for a while. It has that Pond Scummy texture look. It can be saved though with lots of $. Good luck guys.
I wouldn't bother flooding the crankcase with Diesel when it's already full of such nice clean oil. Your checking the valves and oiling the pistons and rings did the trick. I was already thinking of the wood block and hammer on the pistons tops too!
I love that "minty" fresh sub frame and driver's side front fender. LMFAO 😂😂
Transmition fluid and break fluid combo. Worked great on on my 1945 Farmal a tractor. Was seized for 10 years.
Brake fluid not break fluid
I use that Liquid Wrench too, but Deep Creep is better. I assume all the heat and diesel helped a great deal as well. Well done guys.
DadPowR!!
Stay gold.
Flammable liquids and torch goes together fine😂
Very good work! I wish I was near to see the all car.
Thanks Chris!
Also did it to a 429 CJ but later on realized it was unsalvageable still was a good learning experience and your way looked more fun
That's a shame, those are super cool
God Damn this thumbnail getting me all excited n shit can't wait to watch!!!!!
Lol watch away! Hope you enjoy!
@@Theoldcarchannel. That was pretty damn awesome dude... Man... i just got this feeling like it WANTTTSSS to run!!!!!!! Can't wait to see the next episode!
try this too, fill the cylinders with ATF mixed with gasoline, and light them, may also need a small rag as a wick. The heat loosens things up, and ATF-gas dissolves rust and it will leak down the piston sides.
Invest in a rosebud head for heating. Guaranteed you'll never regret getting one.
I've got two 64 galaxies I drug up that haven't been cranked since 1972. Both have 4 barrel 390 engines with Thunderbird valve covers. Engines that simple, I'd pull and free it up on an engine stand. I don't take engines apart in the car. leave the backing plate and flywheel on. Bolt the starter to the backing plate. Free up by hand, then use the starter to test compression. Compression not good, tear it down. Compression good, crank it, I have ran into a stacked bearing a few times. You can get high leverage between transmission line up pin and flywheel tooth.
My favourite years of Cougar. My Grandad bought one brand new in 1967, his had a 390, but remember him saying that it was a fast car, but the sequential taillights were troublesome as well as the vacuum operated headlights. The rocker panels were rotten by 1973, and he traded it for a new '73 Cutlass coupe.
Interestingly enough that you mentioned a 390 67 cougar... this car in the video was going to be a parts car for another cougar of mine which is a factory 67 390 car👍
A healthy shot of Seafoam in each spark plug hole a couple hours and repeat and I bet the next morning it would have been freed up. I have unsiezed more than a few using Seafoam and a few hours its proven itself to me. BTW I have a very rare factory 68 R code. Ram Air 428 CJ - 4 speed Cougar . Its a blast to drive .
Old cougars never die, they just get serviced.
At 10:59; "The Flames of Hell " !! Were still [ patiently ] waiting !
Wow! You could actually change the plugs in that thing with a ratchet and deep well. Lots of times now you have to jack the car up to get to the right side of the engine which sits on the firewall.
🤣Things used to be a lot easier
I’ve not heard of diesel being used before. I have heard of filling the engine with ATF. One guy told me he made plywood plates for the exhaust ports, silicone sealed and bolted them to the heads and filled the engine to the top with ATF. He was bringing old tractor engines back to life tho.
bringin it back from the Graveyard, great project fellows!!
So cool, I never knew this, awesome vid, new subscriber!!
I usually just spray penetrating oil in each spark plug hole and wait a couple days. Then try to turn it. If its still seized do it again and wait. If it still doesn’t turn fill each cylinder with 5-30
It will eventually free up if it is any good at all. Forcing it is a great way to break a ring . Just be patient and let the oil do the work. Just don’t put the plugs in until it is able to push it all back out the plug hole.
Took a old 53 or so Ford F-1 flat head that set for 20 years under trees . fill all the cylinders with WD-40 and then pored the rest down the Cab and went out ever few days and gave the old braker bar a pull and push , one day after two mounts it gave way
The old tires all took air and the old beast came to life after a little work and new oil - did flush out the engine crakcse with Disel like you and only used WD 40 because NAPA had a gallon of it ready and I was hopping it was a light oil that over time would soaked past the rings & pistons
Those old engines are well build and should come back to life with very little trouble , its so close why don't you pull the shot block and trow some new bearing/ rings its so close to comeing out with very little trouble at its current point or just toss a new set of gaskets along with plugs and it should jump to life after cleaning the cab and setting the points
Love it you guys put a fair amount of work into it
Thanks for posting
I guess it's always fun to use the big red wrench. But a simpler , cheaper way to go about this task. Would be to get about a foot long piece of 2×4 , put in cylinder and hit it with a hammer
Did that as well around the 12:55 mark if you watch closely
Awesome content. I love 289s!
Thank you! They are great little engines👌
I always use Liquid wrench sprayed into the plug holes liberally. Wait a day or two.remove starter and pry against teeth on flywheel.
That fogger idea fixed my fuel injector problem.
That's nuts I once bought mystery oil poured it down the cylinders through the spark plug holes and let it sit overnight , sucked out all the fluid and spun over like butter
I did the same thing to a old beat-up Indian motorcycle I bought from a barn find the old toothless man in auto parts store told me Decor Mystery Oil in after removing the spark plugs I told him that is not going to work I bought four bottles and tried it i worked like a charm
I have a 1953 Pontiac Chieftain and when I got it it had a cracked block so it's like that now I don't know how to fix it - I've heard welding the crack, using bolts I don't know what to trust, it doesn't turn over and I put Mystery Oil in it but I don't really know what I'm doing
It was a chore but I respect your determination
a 52-year-old super HOT Cougar gets all 8 cylinders pumping!
That should've been the title name lol
VERYYYY GOOOOD JOB !!!!!!!! AND VERY GOOD CHANEL !
Doesn't the hit expand the material and make it even more stuck?
I was picturing the dude hitting the oxygen, blowing a hole through a piston and setting off the diesel fuel and oil in the crank case. That would've been some dumpster fire there. 😂😂😂 Too bad about all the rust on that car, 67 Cougars are pretty cool. That big rust hole on the front fender is odd, I've never seen one rust such a big hole in that spot.
Haha don't you know that we're "trained professionals" 😂! It's definitely time to invest in a rose bud tip for the torches. Yeah this one is pretty rough but it's all there. It's fate will probably still be a parts car for our other 67 cougar.
I agree, never seen a fender rust like this one has, rotted very long and vertically. I could understand a small spot... But this is ridiculous
Someone probably tow-bared it in the winter behind the salt truck!
Great video man! Im facing a stuck motor on a 74 honda I recently traded up, fingers crossed and itll be freed soon
Good method as well is to have the breaker bar + starter hooked to a button
I have FORD Blue Blood in my veins, I had a 1968 Cougar that was froze up, I will tell you what, I cannot believe that you put that much heat on that engine. The Cougar I had was also a 289. What I did was to take off the fan and I used a Breaker bar that was about 18" long, I had no movement so like you I tried forcing it, but she would not turn over. What I did next was I put a Good Battery in it hooked op the cables and I stood on the breaker bar and crossed the solenoid and the started kick in and broke the motor loose. I much would have rather seen you do that instead of use a Torch. Work Smarter, not harder
Nice job, man! Greetings from Brazil!
Thanks for tuning in!👌
Cougar loosing up for you 😂