Part of the benefit of the flip screen is that you can turn it around so you have effectively ‘no screen’. This is better than the XPro3 implementation IMHO.
It is meant to be like a Leica because it’s a retro design. There’s always other models with more modern designs to pick from for the larger grip like the z6 and z7. The lack of grip is a plus for me because I don’t intend to use big lenses with it that’s not what I bought it for, also it feels easier to carry around due to it being more compact cuz it doesn’t have that brick like grip and debatably, wouldn’t intimidate people as much as a big camera does.
I agree with almost everything you say regarding a totally brilliant camera. But on the grip point, Nikon could not possibly make a retro style camera with a true grip. That would be absurd! I'd prefer a completely flat grip as with the Zfc (I grew up with a Nikon FE) and then buy the Smallrig add-on. I agree that they should have agreed with Smallrig to have a small and large grip option, but at least they went to Smallrig - I dread to think what a Nikon add-on grip would cost (I think they are selling one in Japan). I don't understand why there are objections to a £40 option to a £2k camera. This gives choice. I love it. I can have the grip, or remove it. It would not be a retro camera if it had a built-in grip!
You nailed it. It would not be a retro camera with a big honkin' grip. The small grip is a nice compromise, and if more is wanted, it gives something to the larger grip to securely couple to.
I have a ZF and love it. Everyone goes on and on about the grip and ergonomics of this camera. I don't have a third party grip, I use the big Nikon 180 - 600 lens, the 85 /1.2 and the 50 /1.2. All big heavy lenses with no issues at all. I hold the weight of the lens in my left hand. I guess it would be an issue if you were shooting with only one hand, but I can shoot for several hours with no issues. I don't find the memory card placement to be an issue nor do I find the floppy screen an issue.
Agree on Grip and Fn buttons. My #3 is that moving the ISO dial away from C automatically locks any ISO-Button you might have programmed (I use the movie-record-button in photo mode as ISO and its placed similarly to the other Nikons ISO button), no chance to easily turn off AutoISO afterwards, if its on.
From a Zfc perspective, agree with everything and it matches my experience. For lenses i am less bothered as it is not a "serious" camera so will use shiny 3rd party lenses sometimes. Smallrig grip was an essential purchase after first 5 minutes - much better but not deep enough. Tilt screen - useful but I don't vlog and need the low angle access only. I find swinging it out makes the extra width annoying when I am cramped for space somewhere. One function button is a real limitation though.
You raise a lot of good con points about the Zf. Having grown up with film cameras of the 70s & 80s I can't believe how we used cameras without grips. The only way we got a grip was with an add on winder or motor drive, or a dedicate grip. I added winders and motor drives to all three of the Olympus OM cameras I had at the time, even if I used the manual wind lever. Later on in the late 80s forward, many cameras started to evolve with built in motor drives and a tiny grip. I am a right hander but I feel for lefties in this right centric world.
Yep, I had an F for a while. Take the bottom off to change film. Camera was tough to hold onto, especially with long lenses. You learned how. Then I had FMs, FE2s and FM2s - all big improvements. Then F3s and finally F5s. The cameras kept getting bigger and heavier. Loved them, but people have certainly forgotten. The Zf is a retro camera. I find it very easy to use, reminds me of my FE2/FM2s in operation - but I don't have to reload film every 36 frames, I don't have to wind film between every frame, I have a backup of every image (for any of you who ever lost a roll of film either in processing or because the film ripped in the camera, you'll know how big a change dual memory cards are). I don't want a motor drive (if I want bigger, heavier cameras with big grips, I grab one of my D750s with their battery grips), and I don't need Nikon to make lenses "retro". I have Nikkor AI lenses that work absolutely great on my Zf with the adapter and the Zf gives me great focus confirmation in the viewfinder compared to any other digital camera. It's the first camera where I have found using MF lenses to be easy since the disappearance of split-screen viewfinders.
I feel that with the ubiquity of Mirrorless cameras, DSLRs are becoming the real retro cameras. Still great image quality, mountains of great affordable glass and, by today’s standards, a genuine retro feel with that shutter sound and a bulky exterior. Might just pick up a “vintage” D810 with some AF-D glass for essentially no money…
In the past four decades, we have four levels of cameras: 1. Manual focus film [FM2, 1982] 2. Autofocus/autowinder film [F90, 1992] 3. DSLR [D700, 2008] 4. Mirrorless [Z7, 2018] Three levels of "retro"...
For me are only 3 things suboptimal: - only one dedicated function button - flip screen - no A position on the ISO dial (So you you have to program another button like the rec button for ISO to switch fast between normal and auto ISO, hence to loose a second programable button)
I fell in love with the Zf when it came out for the styling and it seemed to fix the main shortcomings of the Z6ii for me - improved AF/processor, the better video specs & the fully articulating screen vs the 90 deg version. But the 2 things that made me hold off is the lack of buttons and the grip. I mostly hold/carry my cameras by the lens nowadays to reduce strain on the mount but I could see it getting uncomfortable on a full day shoot. But I also use the Fn1/Fn2 on my Z6ii all the time, like multiple times per shoot. I love everything about it but really wish they could have squeezed an extra button or two in there. The way it handles ISO/auto-ISO also looks less than optimal in a fast paced setting. Still probably going to succumb to my desire to get one soon but good to know the shortcomings from a real-world use perspective.
I don't have any problems with the ZF. I bought it for display and use my Z5 or Z9 for the usual executions and the ZF when I want to go back in time. Many people don't realised if they are looking for that perfect fit camera and features they want, they should build their own factory and parts to make one. I was in the real estate business before and after showing too many properties to a specific potential "Buyer", I tell them finally they should build their own instead of looking for one. This is the reality. Beat it !!
You convinced me. I just sent ASML an email asking for a quote for a couple of their photolithography machines so I can set up the part of my new factory making the sensor and other chips for my new dream camera. I had thought they might be too expensive, but your message and insights into the nature of reality sounded so incredible wise and practical that I decided I must have been wrong. I hope the overall cost of setting up the factory isn't much above the cost of a typical family home, or better the cost of a good camera, otherwise you'd be a total moron who should beat it himself?
@@yxx_chris_xxyyou should not contact ASML. You need to contact AMD or Nvidia to design a custom image processor then TSMI or Samsung to build the processor. Sony can build the image sensor using BSI, stacked, Dual Native ISO or Dual gain technologies for you as they do it for Panasonic, Fuji, OM Systems, Sony and Nikon. But the easiest way is to contact Canon, Nikon, Sony, Fuji, Panasonic or OM System asking them if they can build a custom build a camera for you. As a matter of fact, as a home cinema enthusiasts, we know that certain big Hollywood directors have asked Panasonic to custom build certain big screens television for them. Even Panasonic management said that they do this, but they won’t say the name of this customers. So his idea is not something stupid as it happens at request from Billionaires. They want a custom made product that no one does have.
I have used film cameras from the time that I was 15 years old to my late 40's when I transitioned to digital photography, I used a Canon point and shoot camera to get used to the digital format. My first DSLR camera was a Pentax K100D super, it was the first camera that I enjoyed using because of the design and grip that the camera had, my film camera was a Minolta and my uncles camera was a Nikon, out of our entire family we were the only ones that had a camera and over the years we shared many common interests. My uncle passed away a few years ago so his was the first Nikon camera I had. Now at the age of 66 I own many different cameras from Pentax, Panasonic, Olympus, Fujifilm and Nikon. The Nikon ZF and Z6Ii are totally different cameras and like the Fujifilm XT3, XT5 and XH2 that I own they share a common theme, the XT5 and ZF are designed to be more like the old style camera bodies that had little to no grip and the XH2 and Z6II are more modern day SLR camera bodies that have a body that has a full grip and has a large body that has more custom functioning buttons. Before I purchased the XT5 and ZF I new that they would have a different user experience than your typical DSLR's and this is why I choose to purchase them. I use my XH2 with large and longer glass the XT5 is used with smaller zoom and prime lenses and that is how I plan on using the ZF and Z6Ii, I did add a grip/ l bracket combo on my ZF and XT5 and XT3 as they make the camera easier to use but some cameras are more suitable for long or heavy glass and some are more geared towards a more faster style of shooting, so in the end you have to understand that when you choose a camera, I guess that's why I have a camera that covers full frame, APSC and micro 4/3.
It's a question of the design of the smallrig grip. They definitively could have made it more comfortable to hold. Maybe we'll see an improved version in the future.
I also bought the Zf and I totally agree with your Points, but also love the Camera, especially with the amazing Voigtländer 40mm1.2 (and other Voigtländer lenses)
Great video. I agree with you. Handling is Nikon's second name and then they made such huge step backwards. I am so sad they put so much features in such un-handled camera.
I have the same feeling about the screen. Now that I lost weight my beefy paws are ok with the Smallrig. I’m so happy I bought (traded my xpro3) this and got back to some Nikon. When looking at this I held the z7ii a couple times and LOVE the grip and feel of that camera. I think it’s better feel than the Z8. I was surprised for me how easy changing shutter speed and iso are on the Zf using the big dials 😅while still looking through the viewfinder. I wish the zoom would max out when you push it rather than having to hit it 2-3 times better yet I wish when it sensed the focus manually change it zoomed all the way like the Sonys. I use the front button same as you, change focusing.
I heard each of these three weak points a million times before and to me they are not such a big deal. Here is the two things i really hate about my Zf: (1) The front and rear rotary dial feel like cheap plastic; they have too much resistance to turning, and they hurt my fingers with their sharp ridges. The rubberized dial wheels on other Nikons are much nicer. (2) The IBIS unit is loose when the camera is turned off and moves around freely, which gives the camera a broken and much lower quality feel than what it would otherwise have. This may be normal for modern cameras with IBIS, but in this super dense body it feels particularly wrong. Despite this, I love my Zf.
In an ideal world, you would have a Z6III instead of a Zf. The challenge with the Zf is that each photographer was a different mix of retro and modern. They could put an FM2 and Z6II in front of a group of 10 photographers, ask for the preferred design for the Zf, and they would get 20 creations.
@@DarrenMiles What do your hands say? And is it a solo camera or part of a multi-camera kit. If someone is typically taking two cameras to an event, and one is a Z8 or Z9, then the Z6III makes more sense operationally. If someone already has two, like a Z9/Z8 pair, and wants a third camera for 'fun', then Zf can make sense. If someone works with only one camera, and it's semi-pro work, the cards in the Z6III will be better. Otherwise, the feel of the camera might be the deciding factor.
@@UnconventionalReasoning ifi I were doing a paid gig, to my hands, I'm assuming when it comes out - the Z6iii would be the preferred. For personal stuff and video - ZF all day.
If Nikon wamts to boost their sales for ZF, then they need to add film simulations... can be updated eith software uldate. The next thing is the back button focus. It's placed too far, to be used one-handed. Sadly, it can not be updated for the current ZF as it is a hardware thing. There isnso much confusion on ISO for most of the users. So u have to get used to it. Grow ur nails... u will need it to remove the memory card, specially with attached smallrig grip. But i love the Feel of the camera... thats more than enough along with autofocus... love My ZF
so I would like them to make a bigger extra grip for this camera. Even with this Smallrig it's too small for me. I wish someone would make a bigger one🙏🙏🙏🙏
This is my bad, I was going to disclaim the audio at the beginning of the video, but I just forgot to do it. I literally had 30 minutes and it had been on my mind, so I just linked up my desktop mic and clearly the audio quality is very blah… I’ll update that in the future… The five things that I love video will probably come out in a couple of weeks and I’ll be sure to work on the audio.
it is a retro camera, meant to be held with two hands, not just one and to be hung with a strap... :) send it to me, I will love it just as it is lol... anyway, it is hard for them to please everyone, hopefully they will do a better one after this one.
The next version will undoubtedly be even better, but judging from the way they loaded this camera with leading-edge technology, I wouldn't expect a reiteration for the next 3 or 4 years.
@@josephinevera9966 I just prefer how easy the Fuji cameras are compared to the Nikon, or should I say the XT5 for me. I prefer to have use of F stops over dials. And with the megapixel increase, it’s a no-brainer for me. If you’re using the new sharper lenses and even some of the old ones like the 90 F2, I did some pixel peeping and was very impressed with the increase in sharpness when I cropped! Nikon Zf left too many issues as far as using the camera, the Fuji seems much more intuitive. And the grip is terrible on the Zf. Plus, I recently heard a reviewer comment on using Nikon lenses with the ZF, they don’t look like they’re made for a retro camera!🖖
Yep, the outward look of the lenses (sans the 40mm special edition) are definitely a disappointment. That said, they seem to all be stellar performers - which if I could only have form or function, I'll take the function. (Ideally, however, we could have both)
Undecided myself about this design. I love retro cameras but with the lenses I just find myself using the menus. At the end of the day the ergonomics are sacrificed.
Well 4 and 5 are beyond objective. You missed the 28SE and all of the Z Voightlander lenses. I don’t feel the Fuji lenses look retro so I reject this point. I’m also shocked you don’t see that Fuji stole the look from Nikon film cameras!! The ZF looks so like the Nikon FE film camera.
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Hey, at least I made five points that are generally pretty legit… Will you say the same thing when I do the next video that says “five things that I love about the Nikon ZF?“
1. It's a retro camera. IF you want a grip, buy one of the current designs. 2. Size. As for your "it feels" - that's not a problem of the camera, it's a problem of your brain. 3. It's a retro camera. If you want a bunch of custom function buttons, buy one of the current designs. 4. You can buy Nikon F AI lenses from all the way back to the 60s. 5. As others have pointed out, you can fold the screen in with the screen in, so it looks like an 80s camera - you know, RETRO. Calling a D2 "Old School" is clearly demonstrating you AREN'T OLD SCHOOL.
As already mentioned by @gohilsavio, if you are a leftie and shoot back button focus, this camera may not be for you, unless you like having your right thumb crammed into your face for long periods. Epic fail on Nikons part, because there is more than enough room to have moved the button over to the right!
Have you ever held such a Pentax KM in your hands? I'm a person who held a Pentax and a Zf and I think you're talking nonsense with this grip. The only thing we can complain about is the fact that it arrives without a charger, in the name of ecology, we have to order it in a separate package with separate plastic and instructions. Where's the ecology?
Yet, here you are, succuming to my evil plan... muahahahah, muahhahaha :-). Truth is, I love the camera, but these things are annoyances, that said, I really DO hate the placement of the memory card slots - and the design....
yeah but he mentions for weddings, and this camera isn't build for that, z6iii is and z7iii...so he chose the wrong tool for the wrong job...so de microsd card isn't a problem... @@lorseyjones4807
I had the chance to handle the ZF for a while at a recent photo salon and besides its retro look I was not impressed. It's chunky, hard to grip and the retro dials are a poor implementation of the Fuji dials. That camera needs retro styled lenses with real aperture rings, the small aperture screen being a gimmick. I ended up buying a Sony a7cii !
Part of the benefit of the flip screen is that you can turn it around so you have effectively ‘no screen’. This is better than the XPro3 implementation IMHO.
This video was not brought to you by squarespace 😅
Guess they wouldn’t pay up. 😏
It is meant to be like a Leica because it’s a retro design. There’s always other models with more modern designs to pick from for the larger grip like the z6 and z7. The lack of grip is a plus for me because I don’t intend to use big lenses with it that’s not what I bought it for, also it feels easier to carry around due to it being more compact cuz it doesn’t have that brick like grip and debatably, wouldn’t intimidate people as much as a big camera does.
I agree with almost everything you say regarding a totally brilliant camera. But on the grip point, Nikon could not possibly make a retro style camera with a true grip. That would be absurd! I'd prefer a completely flat grip as with the Zfc (I grew up with a Nikon FE) and then buy the Smallrig add-on. I agree that they should have agreed with Smallrig to have a small and large grip option, but at least they went to Smallrig - I dread to think what a Nikon add-on grip would cost (I think they are selling one in Japan). I don't understand why there are objections to a £40 option to a £2k camera. This gives choice. I love it. I can have the grip, or remove it. It would not be a retro camera if it had a built-in grip!
You nailed it. It would not be a retro camera with a big honkin' grip.
The small grip is a nice compromise, and if more is wanted, it gives something to the larger grip to securely couple to.
I have a ZF and love it. Everyone goes on and on about the grip and ergonomics of this camera. I don't have a third party grip, I use the big Nikon 180 - 600 lens, the 85 /1.2 and the 50 /1.2. All big heavy lenses with no issues at all. I hold the weight of the lens in my left hand. I guess it would be an issue if you were shooting with only one hand, but I can shoot for several hours with no issues. I don't find the memory card placement to be an issue nor do I find the floppy screen an issue.
Agree on Grip and Fn buttons. My #3 is that moving the ISO dial away from C automatically locks any ISO-Button you might have programmed (I use the movie-record-button in photo mode as ISO and its placed similarly to the other Nikons ISO button), no chance to easily turn off AutoISO afterwards, if its on.
From a Zfc perspective, agree with everything and it matches my experience. For lenses i am less bothered as it is not a "serious" camera so will use shiny 3rd party lenses sometimes. Smallrig grip was an essential purchase after first 5 minutes - much better but not deep enough. Tilt screen - useful but I don't vlog and need the low angle access only. I find swinging it out makes the extra width annoying when I am cramped for space somewhere. One function button is a real limitation though.
You raise a lot of good con points about the Zf. Having grown up with film cameras of the 70s & 80s I can't believe how we used cameras without grips. The only way we got a grip was with an add on winder or motor drive, or a dedicate grip. I added winders and motor drives to all three of the Olympus OM cameras I had at the time, even if I used the manual wind lever. Later on in the late 80s forward, many cameras started to evolve with built in motor drives and a tiny grip. I am a right hander but I feel for lefties in this right centric world.
Does anyone remember the old Nikon film cameras had no grip or bump. We are so spoiled.
Yep, I had an F for a while. Take the bottom off to change film. Camera was tough to hold onto, especially with long lenses. You learned how. Then I had FMs, FE2s and FM2s - all big improvements. Then F3s and finally F5s. The cameras kept getting bigger and heavier. Loved them, but people have certainly forgotten. The Zf is a retro camera. I find it very easy to use, reminds me of my FE2/FM2s in operation - but I don't have to reload film every 36 frames, I don't have to wind film between every frame, I have a backup of every image (for any of you who ever lost a roll of film either in processing or because the film ripped in the camera, you'll know how big a change dual memory cards are). I don't want a motor drive (if I want bigger, heavier cameras with big grips, I grab one of my D750s with their battery grips), and I don't need Nikon to make lenses "retro". I have Nikkor AI lenses that work absolutely great on my Zf with the adapter and the Zf gives me great focus confirmation in the viewfinder compared to any other digital camera. It's the first camera where I have found using MF lenses to be easy since the disappearance of split-screen viewfinders.
I feel that with the ubiquity of Mirrorless cameras, DSLRs are becoming the real retro cameras. Still great image quality, mountains of great affordable glass and, by today’s standards, a genuine retro feel with that shutter sound and a bulky exterior. Might just pick up a “vintage” D810 with some AF-D glass for essentially no money…
In the past four decades, we have four levels of cameras:
1. Manual focus film [FM2, 1982]
2. Autofocus/autowinder film [F90, 1992]
3. DSLR [D700, 2008]
4. Mirrorless [Z7, 2018]
Three levels of "retro"...
Give it 10 years and companies will release nostalgic DSLR bodies with "retro-styling!"
and people like you and me will eat them up lol
For me are only 3 things suboptimal:
- only one dedicated function button
- flip screen
- no A position on the ISO dial (So you you have to program another button like the rec button for ISO to switch fast between normal and auto ISO, hence to loose a second programable button)
I fell in love with the Zf when it came out for the styling and it seemed to fix the main shortcomings of the Z6ii for me - improved AF/processor, the better video specs & the fully articulating screen vs the 90 deg version. But the 2 things that made me hold off is the lack of buttons and the grip. I mostly hold/carry my cameras by the lens nowadays to reduce strain on the mount but I could see it getting uncomfortable on a full day shoot. But I also use the Fn1/Fn2 on my Z6ii all the time, like multiple times per shoot. I love everything about it but really wish they could have squeezed an extra button or two in there. The way it handles ISO/auto-ISO also looks less than optimal in a fast paced setting.
Still probably going to succumb to my desire to get one soon but good to know the shortcomings from a real-world use perspective.
I don't have any problems with the ZF. I bought it for display and use my Z5 or Z9 for the usual executions and the ZF when I want to go back in time. Many people don't realised if they are looking for that perfect fit camera and features they want, they should build their own factory and parts to make one. I was in the real estate business before and after showing too many properties to a specific potential "Buyer", I tell them finally they should build their own instead of looking for one. This is the reality. Beat it !!
You convinced me. I just sent ASML an email asking for a quote for a couple of their photolithography machines so I can set up the part of my new factory making the sensor and other chips for my new dream camera. I had thought they might be too expensive, but your message and insights into the nature of reality sounded so incredible wise and practical that I decided I must have been wrong. I hope the overall cost of setting up the factory isn't much above the cost of a typical family home, or better the cost of a good camera, otherwise you'd be a total moron who should beat it himself?
@@yxx_chris_xxyyou should not contact ASML. You need to contact AMD or Nvidia to design a custom image processor then TSMI or Samsung to build the processor. Sony can build the image sensor using BSI, stacked, Dual Native ISO or Dual gain technologies for you as they do it for Panasonic, Fuji, OM Systems, Sony and Nikon. But the easiest way is to contact Canon, Nikon, Sony, Fuji, Panasonic or OM System asking them if they can build a custom build a camera for you. As a matter of fact, as a home cinema enthusiasts, we know that certain big Hollywood directors have asked Panasonic to custom build certain big screens television for them. Even Panasonic management said that they do this, but they won’t say the name of this customers. So his idea is not something stupid as it happens at request from Billionaires. They want a custom made product that no one does have.
I have used film cameras from the time that I was 15 years old to my late 40's when I transitioned to digital photography, I used a Canon point and shoot camera to get used to the digital format. My first DSLR camera was a Pentax K100D super, it was the first camera that I enjoyed using because of the design and grip that the camera had, my film camera was a Minolta and my uncles camera was a Nikon, out of our entire family we were the only ones that had a camera and over the years we shared many common interests. My uncle passed away a few years ago so his was the first Nikon camera I had. Now at the age of 66 I own many different cameras from Pentax, Panasonic, Olympus, Fujifilm and Nikon.
The Nikon ZF and Z6Ii are totally different cameras and like the Fujifilm XT3, XT5 and XH2 that I own they share a common theme, the XT5 and ZF are designed to be more like the old style camera bodies that had little to no grip and the XH2 and Z6II are more modern day SLR camera bodies that have a body that has a full grip and has a large body that has more custom functioning buttons. Before I purchased the XT5 and ZF I new that they would have a different user experience than your typical DSLR's and this is why I choose to purchase them. I use my XH2 with large and longer glass the XT5 is used with smaller zoom and prime lenses and that is how I plan on using the ZF and Z6Ii, I did add a grip/ l bracket combo on my ZF and XT5 and XT3 as they make the camera easier to use but some cameras are more suitable for long or heavy glass and some are more geared towards a more faster style of shooting, so in the end you have to understand that when you choose a camera, I guess that's why I have a camera that covers full frame, APSC and micro 4/3.
It's a question of the design of the smallrig grip. They definitively could have made it more comfortable to hold. Maybe we'll see an improved version in the future.
It was good seeing a new upload from you.👍
I also bought the Zf and I totally agree with your Points, but also love the Camera, especially with the amazing Voigtländer 40mm1.2 (and other Voigtländer lenses)
Great video. I agree with you. Handling is Nikon's second name and then they made such huge step backwards. I am so sad they put so much features in such un-handled camera.
I have the same feeling about the screen. Now that I lost weight my beefy paws are ok with the Smallrig. I’m so happy I bought (traded my xpro3) this and got back to some Nikon. When looking at this I held the z7ii a couple times and LOVE the grip and feel of that camera. I think it’s better feel than the Z8. I was surprised for me how easy changing shutter speed and iso are on the Zf using the big dials 😅while still looking through the viewfinder. I wish the zoom would max out when you push it rather than having to hit it 2-3 times better yet I wish when it sensed the focus manually change it zoomed all the way like the Sonys. I use the front button same as you, change focusing.
What I hate about this camers is the hype. People recommending it to others before they've even used it themselves.
No hype. It’s the best camera I’ve owned
"This video was not brought to you by Squarespace" ... love it!
I heard each of these three weak points a million times before and to me they are not such a big deal. Here is the two things i really hate about my Zf: (1) The front and rear rotary dial feel like cheap plastic; they have too much resistance to turning, and they hurt my fingers with their sharp ridges. The rubberized dial wheels on other Nikons are much nicer. (2) The IBIS unit is loose when the camera is turned off and moves around freely, which gives the camera a broken and much lower quality feel than what it would otherwise have. This may be normal for modern cameras with IBIS, but in this super dense body it feels particularly wrong. Despite this, I love my Zf.
So - i am considering this camera - thank u . Cant wait for the 5 things u love video !!!
It would be nice if small rig came out with a Zf grip XL
This!!
In an ideal world, you would have a Z6III instead of a Zf.
The challenge with the Zf is that each photographer was a different mix of retro and modern. They could put an FM2 and Z6II in front of a group of 10 photographers, ask for the preferred design for the Zf, and they would get 20 creations.
My heart says ZF, my head says Z6iii....
@@DarrenMiles What do your hands say? And is it a solo camera or part of a multi-camera kit. If someone is typically taking two cameras to an event, and one is a Z8 or Z9, then the Z6III makes more sense operationally. If someone already has two, like a Z9/Z8 pair, and wants a third camera for 'fun', then Zf can make sense. If someone works with only one camera, and it's semi-pro work, the cards in the Z6III will be better. Otherwise, the feel of the camera might be the deciding factor.
@@UnconventionalReasoning ifi I were doing a paid gig, to my hands, I'm assuming when it comes out - the Z6iii would be the preferred. For personal stuff and video - ZF all day.
@@DarrenMiles Yes, that seems to suit a lot of photographers. My 'retro' option was a film camera. 😀
If Nikon wamts to boost their sales for ZF, then they need to add film simulations... can be updated eith software uldate.
The next thing is the back button focus. It's placed too far, to be used one-handed. Sadly, it can not be updated for the current ZF as it is a hardware thing.
There isnso much confusion on ISO for most of the users. So u have to get used to it.
Grow ur nails... u will need it to remove the memory card, specially with attached smallrig grip.
But i love the Feel of the camera... thats more than enough along with autofocus... love My ZF
Film simulations can be done in RAW processing.
so I would like them to make a bigger extra grip for this camera. Even with this Smallrig it's too small for me. I wish someone would make a bigger one🙏🙏🙏🙏
Love your work but you need a lav mic. Have you lost it? Your earlier videos sound was much better
This is my bad, I was going to disclaim the audio at the beginning of the video, but I just forgot to do it. I literally had 30 minutes and it had been on my mind, so I just linked up my desktop mic and clearly the audio quality is very blah… I’ll update that in the future… The five things that I love video will probably come out in a couple of weeks and I’ll be sure to work on the audio.
For those making the memory card mistake. Just take a red sharpie and make a mark.
In the 70 I used FM2and FE2 for professional jobs. Most for weddings. So ZF no problem for me.
it is a retro camera, meant to be held with two hands, not just one and to be hung with a strap... :) send it to me, I will love it just as it is lol... anyway, it is hard for them to please everyone, hopefully they will do a better one after this one.
hmmn tiny hands checking in...guess this camera gonna be purrrrfect!
It's great I guess , looks awesome , I'm retro kind of guy , if not only for great specs but the feeling of youthy years , I'm 55
the most impressive part of this production! it was NOt brought to you by squarespace LOL
Great video. Good points. But once I look at it, everything is forgotten. 😅
Not a "squarespace" vid 😅😅😅
I’ll wait for the second version! Or maybe I’ll just buy another Fuji! 😝
I am torn between the ZF and the X-H2. I would like the bigger sensor but how big of a difference is there really.
The next version will undoubtedly be even better, but judging from the way they loaded this camera with leading-edge technology, I wouldn't expect a reiteration for the next 3 or 4 years.
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I just prefer how easy the Fuji cameras are compared to the Nikon, or should I say the XT5 for me. I prefer to have use of F stops over dials.
And with the megapixel increase, it’s a no-brainer for me. If you’re using the new sharper lenses and even some of the old ones like the 90 F2, I did some pixel peeping and was very impressed with the increase in sharpness when I cropped!
Nikon Zf left too many issues as far as using the camera, the Fuji seems much more intuitive. And the grip is terrible on the Zf. Plus, I recently heard a reviewer comment on using Nikon lenses with the ZF, they don’t look like they’re made for a retro camera!🖖
Would love a retro mb 10 motor drive type , would take it over the top for me 😊
Completely fair! Thanks for this!
Only 5 ? Seems like more !
Yep, the outward look of the lenses (sans the 40mm special edition) are definitely a disappointment.
That said, they seem to all be stellar performers - which if I could only have form or function, I'll take the function. (Ideally, however, we could have both)
Undecided myself about this design. I love retro cameras but with the lenses I just find myself using the menus. At the end of the day the ergonomics are sacrificed.
Well 4 and 5 are beyond objective. You missed the 28SE and all of the Z Voightlander lenses. I don’t feel the Fuji lenses look retro so I reject this point. I’m also shocked you don’t see that Fuji stole the look from Nikon film cameras!! The ZF looks so like the Nikon FE film camera.
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Hey, at least I made five points that are generally pretty legit… Will you say the same thing when I do the next video that says “five things that I love about the Nikon ZF?“
@@DarrenMiles Yes
How is it clickbait? He actually told us the 5 things he hated.
Temperature had to get below 60 degrees to get you to do a youtube video again.
Haha! Truth! Finally had a free minute - soon I'll post the 5 things I love about this camera - and I really do love it!
I want a blue one 😁📸
Why buy a camera whose raison d’être is that it isn’t like a utilitarian z6 and then complain that it’s not like a z6?
I think the z8 would solve all the things you don’t like
Your audio could be better!
Selling like hot cakes. But Fuji XT cameras offer more in terms of lenses and features. Compare cost of ZF with XT-5?
1. It's a retro camera. IF you want a grip, buy one of the current designs.
2. Size. As for your "it feels" - that's not a problem of the camera, it's a problem of your brain.
3. It's a retro camera. If you want a bunch of custom function buttons, buy one of the current designs.
4. You can buy Nikon F AI lenses from all the way back to the 60s.
5. As others have pointed out, you can fold the screen in with the screen in, so it looks like an 80s camera - you know, RETRO. Calling a D2 "Old School" is clearly demonstrating you AREN'T OLD SCHOOL.
Settle down, it’s just a commentary on the camera - which I happen to love btw.
@@DarrenMiles Just pointing out that your commentary is nonsense.
As already mentioned by @gohilsavio, if you are a leftie and shoot back button focus, this camera may not be for you, unless you like having your right thumb crammed into your face for long periods. Epic fail on Nikons part, because there is more than enough room to have moved the button over to the right!
Bruh I first watched you when I was like 10 years old
damn! Thank you for the friendly reminder that I'm now that much older :-)
Have you ever held such a Pentax KM in your hands? I'm a person who held a Pentax and a Zf and I think you're talking nonsense with this grip. The only thing we can complain about is the fact that it arrives without a charger, in the name of ecology, we have to order it in a separate package with separate plastic and instructions. Where's the ecology?
Ok, enuff whining, now let's go shoot some pix.😂
If you did not hate it like you said in the video change the title to dislike. You may not gary that many views. Oh I get it.
Yet, here you are, succuming to my evil plan... muahahahah, muahhahaha :-). Truth is, I love the camera, but these things are annoyances, that said, I really DO hate the placement of the memory card slots - and the design....
@@DarrenMiles😂 yes I am. I love your channel.
this camera is not for weddings...it's not what is intended for
Any camera can be used for any event and individual chooses
yeah but he mentions for weddings, and this camera isn't build for that, z6iii is and z7iii...so he chose the wrong tool for the wrong job...so de microsd card isn't a problem... @@lorseyjones4807
Thing is, I actually planned on using it for weddings, I really like it… The image quality is sensational
Interesting thoughts but your audio was absolutely awful for the entire video
I had the chance to handle the ZF for a while at a recent photo salon and besides its retro look I was not impressed. It's chunky, hard to grip and the retro dials are a poor implementation of the Fuji dials. That camera needs retro styled lenses with real aperture rings, the small aperture screen being a gimmick. I ended up buying a Sony a7cii !
boo... hoo.. 🤦