also the manga having 139 total chapters has signicance 140 is associated with freedom and since the manga never reached 140 chapeters it symbolizes how eren was never able to reach true freedom
I agree the 9 titans = 9 realms idea is valid, but I have another interpretation: it's a possible reference to the importance of the spine. Humans are born with 33 vertebrae, but by the time we're adults we only have 24. This is because the 9 vertebrae at the bottom fuse together into one.
Great video. Didn't know what to expect, but I found it interesting. You provided some things I didn't even realize and things that filled in some gaps (ex. the 9 realms being the 9 titans).👍
There’s a lot of Norse mythology in AOT Ymir is the one the gods that created the world the tree of life is in Norse mythology which is the where the coordinate is at. 9 titans for the 9 realms etc I’m sure there’s more
The technology is for sure higher than it was when our calendar was in the year 845, but they aren't using the same calendar as us. There is no Christianity, which is the origin of the B.C. and A.D. system, in their world.
It's kinda ridiculous how Ymir suffered all these 2000 years due to her own stupidity (yeah, I love Fritz so much that I let him use me as a trash the entire time even though I can kill him or make his life worse than of a slave with my god powers...). The only justifiable reason I can come with is that she was "brain damaged" or hardly traumatized before obtaining powers, but this was never ever mentioned anywhere
It is implied that she grew up as a slave, and that mentality never left her. Having power doesn't change much. She was a slave, and Fritz was the King, so she obeyed. She was a slave, but she also loved. Plus, she was a woman, in what essentially was a Viking society - a society where women, had low status, and slave women, where little better than animals in the eyes of the society.
The number 10 is important as well. Eren said "I dont want mikasa to froget about me for 10 years at least." and here we are 10 years later from the first episode of attack on titan. 13 years later from the Manga. And the Anime is coming back on 3/3/23. The number 3 is important in so many ways. But I believe in the timeloop theory so 3 endings will occur with the anime being the 3rd one.
What I don’t understand about the time loop theory is that it is impossible for Eren to receive the Titan powers in cabin timeline. He never would have met Zeke, entered his fathers memories and persuaded him into stealing the Titans from Frieda.
@@emeraldweb7169 it all depends when he decided to run away. We was never told. But he must’ve ran away after finding out something which would be late season 3 so all things still would’ve occurred
@@jarellbess1432 no it does not depend. Eren in real time, enters his fathers memories and activates the rumbling in less than a second. Eren and Mikasa run away after she answers his question and they live for -4 years- together.
I’m sure someone else already mentioned this, but Erwin was also the 13th commander of the scouts, going back to the number 13 being considered evil since he was thought of as a “necessary devil”
6:36 Hitch was not part of the 104th cadets. She was either from a different training camp or from a previous batch of trainees since she managed to enroll in the Military Police but wasn't in the top 10 of the 104th.
most of the top 10 of 104th chose the scouts instead. Pretty sure they would just shift to the next top 10. I do think i saw hitch in the 104th but cant really remember.
With "104th cadets" we refer to the entire group of recruits who joined the army that year, all around the walls. In fact, 104th is divided in 4 districts and our protagonists come from the south one
the walls were built 100 years ago, people turning into titan has existed for way more than 845 years and i don think it has much to do with ymir specifically.
bro youve got the whole see you later thing twisted. So im gonna try my best to help you understand but im not the best at explaining things. SO basically, in chapter 138, when mikasa says see you later, we are actually seeing footage of an alternate timeline. (yes aot has alternate timelines, hear me out). In that alternate time line (ill call it cabin timeline), eren dies peacefully with mikasa. Because eren in the cabin timeline did not complete any of his goals (he didnt get rid of the titans because the curse of ymir will just pass on, and his friends didnt live long lives because the outside world was still alive to kill them all) and because he didnt complete any of his goals, the timeline resets so he can try again.( i wont explain how it resets an all that you just have to bear with me for a little, im sure it will be explained in the anmimes end). SO, after eren dies in the cabin timeline, he wakes up in the manga timeline after dreaming abouit the cabin timeline. This is why in the manga eren awakes peacefully, and he even ask mikasa "when did your hair get so long". Now the manga timeline is the 2nd timeline. Now this is where it gets crazy, in the manga, we know eren dies and goes through very tgraumatic events, this is why IN THE ANIME eren wakes up terrified, because he was dreaming of the events that happened in the manga. in the anime, eren ask mikasa "what are we doing here" because the last thing eren remembers is being inside the titan mouth in the middle of a battle field. so to sum it up; eren dies peacefujlly in cabin timeline (chp 138), wakes up peacefully in manga (chp 1), eren dies tragically in the manga timeline (chapter 138), and wakes up horrified in the anime timeline. so chapter 1 wasnt foreshadowing chapter 138, its more so chapter 138 was foreshadowing chp 1. bro if you have discord i can put you on and explain this much easier
Wdym he got the whole thing twisted?? This was just an AoE theory covered in another video from someone else, not some hard truth to be stated. "World," "timeline," who cares. The actual chapter never explained, and this video was about numbers, not the timeline theory, so why make it so long about something not completely relevant?
One thing to point out: Original king Fritz wasn't a Titan Wielder- he just used Ymir and once she died, he forced his daugthers to canibalise their death mother. I doubt that he eventualy gained Powers. If anything, one of his children/grand childer bearing Founding Titan power, became King and that's how inheriting started... Original Fritz threted Ymir like a tool -> a powerfull weapon. I highly doubt he would inheirit it himself even at death-bed. He probably overlived Ymir and his daugthers (maybe even made grandchildren with them- incest wasn't uncommon in past). Also it was mentioned in manga, that if Founding Titan wouldn't be eaten, once human having their power would die, The Power would return to coordinate and from there it would be given to random Eldian child born the very same day. The thing that it's stated that way, means that at least once such situation has happened... (maybe one of Fritz ancestors wanted to end the whole Titan-thing, but was unsuccessful with it). So... your initial count of 145 Kings of Fritz dynasty living exactly 13 years doesn't realy make sense.... 1st -> Founding Titan wasn't controled directly by Fritz himself 2nd -> at least once Founding Titan wasn't inherited and as such, power went loose As for why it's 845. It's freaking simple. As you said -> AoT was inspired by Nordic mythology and belives... and in 845, Ragnar Lodbrok (the Viking leader) siedged and conquered Paris, who was a fortified walled city. Ragnar is both historical and mythological persons - belived by his commrades and followers to be son of Odin. So 845 is strait analogy between Colosal Titan attacking Wall Maria and Viking Siege of Paris. Vikings entered the city and plundered it. (could guess also slaugthered some of citizens)- same as Titan's did... 2000 is probably just a nice round number... i wouldn't get attached much to it... other than back in 1150s slavery was a common thing... also incest in royal/noble families wasn't so uncommon even in Ancient Rome.
As for 2000, It seems more like a biblical reference to me. Similarities to Ymir's time and Babylon make biblical/historical sense, the image of Ymir gaining power after making a deal with the devil and eating a fruit is a biblical reference, the existence of giants is biblical, and we are currently 2000 years after Christ. Those who believe, or at least consider, the seven millennial clock since creation mark 2000 years after Christ as the time when the Beast will rule.
it doesnt mention specifically the Founder dying and getting sent to a random Eldian, its all titan shifters. if the founder went loose it probably wouldn't have been able to be found again as the child wouldnt be of royal blood, and thus, unable to use it, the child would also die at 13, too early to have even known about the power or how to use it. therefore, if the founder went loose, it wouldnt have been found again. It was likely a Marleyan titan that got lost and the king used the founder to find which eldian got it and give it back to marley.
Ymir's power was divided into 9 because she had three daughters who were forced to eat their mother's carcass to inherit her powers. These three children would later have children of their own, presumably three each so therefore nine in total. As with their mothers before them, they were forced to eat their own mothers' corpse as well and thus each children inherit 1/9 of Ymir's power. Their next generation would only choose one inheritor so that the power won't be further divided. Each inheritor eventually lead their own clan but the founding titan would always be from the Fritz clan and become the monarch.
I think the 13 years life span comes from Ymir's age from the time she got the titan power until she died from the spear, so the curse exists because of Ymir's death and it's established from her age since she got the power... if she died 20 years since she got the titan power, I think the curse is 20 years life span... the only thing this theory lacks is ymir's age, Isayama didn't write/tell about her age, so yeah... but to me it actually makes more sense than connecting it to how the pages of the chapter are kinda silly to me
I think each page represents a year in ymir's life. So its not so much the curse exists because of the 13 pages, but there are 13 pages because she lived for 13 years
yes, but if ymir didnt want to die, she couldve used the founder's power to stop herself from dying. she wanted to die and wanted the titans to only live 13 years.
Does anybody know why Ymir divided in 9 titan shifters? She had three daughters that inherited the power eating her. But this means that there will be 3 titan shifters, no? Where did the other 6 titan powers come?
@@OrangR4ndom yes, I know this of course. I literally say in the comment that Ymir had three daughters, dude. My question is where the other six power came from? And why it stopped at 9 titan shifters?
@@Lumigle the hints for that are in the Manga, if you haven't read it, don't bother, if you did I'll explain below Manga Content: The surviving warriors and scouts arrive at Erens skeletal body from which Eren summons the bodies of past titan shifters to fight them. Some of these have very interesting designs, the cart titan in particular, having animal heads or other features in many instances and we can see one titan having the shape of a crocodile with strong jaw and walking on all fours, suggesting that ymirs 3 daughters might have had a mixture of the 9 titans in them, that their children would inherit, with cart and beast having been tied for a long time. Cart, Jaw and Beast being one, Armored, Colossal and Warhammer the second, Founder, Female and Attack the third. Why it stopped at 9 isn't really clear, there is a theory linking the paths and the tree the ancient creature lived in to Yggdrasil the world tree. A tree at the center, three main branches and 9 connected worlds with ragnarok being predestined to happen. Hope that helps a bit :3
you're implying the war hammer didn't exist at that point in time, but it did: it was shown in the panel with the other eight titans from thousands of years ago, and it played a vital role in ending the great titan war alongside king fritz
1:34 i don't think the walls have 845 years, because they were created by king karl around 100 years before the start of the series (and you say this at 9:08)
“ Even though he's seemingly never received a memory from the future, the Attack Titan's powers still allowed Eren to see the future when he kissed Historia's hand, in an extremely roundabout way… “ Me thinking based on all that maybe Eren did see the good ending all too many times but never liked that idea! Due to its too easy, & It’s never ending. For example I think Eren can see the memories of Future Titans as well right down into that person life! I think he been doing that for a while…. But the main Manga & Anime hasn’t really said so. YET! 😮
Heavy spoiler. My theory: the dream sequence is really alt timeline where Eren absolutely regret after he caused the war with Marley, become the no.1 enemy and ran away with Mikasa, so he chosed to undo this future by sending himself/ manipulate his memory back to year 845 where it all began and will be changed forever.
also the manga having 139 total chapters has signicance 140 is associated with freedom and since the manga never reached 140 chapeters it symbolizes how eren was never able to reach true freedom
I always thought it was because the titan shifters lived 13 years and there were 9 of them, but that it very cool too.
@@axilator just think of it as both and its cooler
@@deludeddonut Yes. Everything is a reference. There is foreshadowing everywhere. Love to see it
I see this everywhere but what is the source? What text or system of belief states what number symbolize???
that has to be a coincidence, there's no way he predicted he needed exactly 139 chapters for the story
I agree the 9 titans = 9 realms idea is valid, but I have another interpretation: it's a possible reference to the importance of the spine. Humans are born with 33 vertebrae, but by the time we're adults we only have 24. This is because the 9 vertebrae at the bottom fuse together into one.
AOT first aired on 2013. AND 2000 YEARS BEFORE THAT WAS 13. COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT
Great video. Didn't know what to expect, but I found it interesting. You provided some things I didn't even realize and things that filled in some gaps (ex. the 9 realms being the 9 titans).👍
There’s a lot of Norse mythology in AOT Ymir is the one the gods that created the world the tree of life is in Norse mythology which is the where the coordinate is at. 9 titans for the 9 realms etc I’m sure there’s more
The numbers……
THE NUMBERS MASON WHAT DO THEY MEAN.
13 is also just a very unlucky number in some Asian societies.
theres no way its the year 845 in attack on titan, theres a camera in season 4, so it would be like somewhere in 1800
The technology is for sure higher than it was when our calendar was in the year 845, but they aren't using the same calendar as us. There is no Christianity, which is the origin of the B.C. and A.D. system, in their world.
10:36 mind blown!!!
Thats cool and all but I would be really surprised if some of these were actually intended and not just overspeculation
there are more then 8 people alive from the 104 tho...
It's kinda ridiculous how Ymir suffered all these 2000 years due to her own stupidity (yeah, I love Fritz so much that I let him use me as a trash the entire time even though I can kill him or make his life worse than of a slave with my god powers...).
The only justifiable reason I can come with is that she was "brain damaged" or hardly traumatized before obtaining powers, but this was never ever mentioned anywhere
It is implied that she grew up as a slave, and that mentality never left her. Having power doesn't change much. She was a slave, and Fritz was the King, so she obeyed. She was a slave, but she also loved. Plus, she was a woman, in what essentially was a Viking society - a society where women, had low status, and slave women, where little better than animals in the eyes of the society.
845 = 5 X 13 X 13
104 is a law for disabled people in italy
Eren che prende la 104 durante il periodo senza una gamba in Marley
The number 10 is important as well. Eren said "I dont want mikasa to froget about me for 10 years at least." and here we are 10 years later from the first episode of attack on titan. 13 years later from the Manga. And the Anime is coming back on 3/3/23. The number 3 is important in so many ways. But I believe in the timeloop theory so 3 endings will occur with the anime being the 3rd one.
What I don’t understand about the time loop theory is that it is impossible for Eren to receive the Titan powers in cabin timeline. He never would have met Zeke, entered his fathers memories and persuaded him into stealing the Titans from Frieda.
@@emeraldweb7169 it all depends when he decided to run away. We was never told. But he must’ve ran away after finding out something which would be late season 3 so all things still would’ve occurred
@@jarellbess1432 no it does not depend. Eren in real time, enters his fathers memories and activates the rumbling in less than a second. Eren and Mikasa run away after she answers his question and they live for -4 years- together.
more and more I see the similarities with Eva
I’m sure someone else already mentioned this, but Erwin was also the 13th commander of the scouts, going back to the number 13 being considered evil since he was thought of as a “necessary devil”
6:36 Hitch was not part of the 104th cadets. She was either from a different training camp or from a previous batch of trainees since she managed to enroll in the Military Police but wasn't in the top 10 of the 104th.
most of the top 10 of 104th chose the scouts instead. Pretty sure they would just shift to the next top 10. I do think i saw hitch in the 104th but cant really remember.
With "104th cadets" we refer to the entire group of recruits who joined the army that year, all around the walls. In fact, 104th is divided in 4 districts and our protagonists come from the south one
she was, it was split into 4 sections I believe
the walls were built 100 years ago, people turning into titan has existed for way more than 845 years and i don think it has much to do with ymir specifically.
13 year rule+ 9 shifters= manga ends in chapter 139
bro youve got the whole see you later thing twisted. So im gonna try my best to help you understand but im not the best at explaining things.
SO basically, in chapter 138, when mikasa says see you later, we are actually seeing footage of an alternate timeline. (yes aot has alternate timelines, hear me out). In that alternate time line (ill call it cabin timeline), eren dies peacefully with mikasa. Because eren in the cabin timeline did not complete any of his goals (he didnt get rid of the titans because the curse of ymir will just pass on, and his friends didnt live long lives because the outside world was still alive to kill them all) and because he didnt complete any of his goals, the timeline resets so he can try again.( i wont explain how it resets an all that you just have to bear with me for a little, im sure it will be explained in the anmimes end). SO, after eren dies in the cabin timeline, he wakes up in the manga timeline after dreaming abouit the cabin timeline. This is why in the manga eren awakes peacefully, and he even ask mikasa "when did your hair get so long". Now the manga timeline is the 2nd timeline. Now this is where it gets crazy, in the manga, we know eren dies and goes through very tgraumatic events, this is why IN THE ANIME eren wakes up terrified, because he was dreaming of the events that happened in the manga. in the anime, eren ask mikasa "what are we doing here" because the last thing eren remembers is being inside the titan mouth in the middle of a battle field. so to sum it up; eren dies peacefujlly in cabin timeline (chp 138), wakes up peacefully in manga (chp 1), eren dies tragically in the manga timeline (chapter 138), and wakes up horrified in the anime timeline. so chapter 1 wasnt foreshadowing chapter 138, its more so chapter 138 was foreshadowing chp 1. bro if you have discord i can put you on and explain this much easier
THANK U SO MUCH FOR THIS
I think u explained it very well
I understood atleast
Wdym he got the whole thing twisted?? This was just an AoE theory covered in another video from someone else, not some hard truth to be stated. "World," "timeline," who cares. The actual chapter never explained, and this video was about numbers, not the timeline theory, so why make it so long about something not completely relevant?
@@page-no1zc its important. and yeah its a "theory" but it is very plausible and if youdoubt it or refuse to believe thats on you. see you march 3rd
@@folubtw we might have to wait for the second cour for aoe so dont get hopes up for march 3rd
@@frodobaggins941 we will see enough evidence in cour 1
One thing to point out:
Original king Fritz wasn't a Titan Wielder- he just used Ymir and once she died, he forced his daugthers to canibalise their death mother. I doubt that he eventualy gained Powers. If anything, one of his children/grand childer bearing Founding Titan power, became King and that's how inheriting started...
Original Fritz threted Ymir like a tool -> a powerfull weapon. I highly doubt he would inheirit it himself even at death-bed. He probably overlived Ymir and his daugthers (maybe even made grandchildren with them- incest wasn't uncommon in past).
Also it was mentioned in manga, that if Founding Titan wouldn't be eaten, once human having their power would die, The Power would return to coordinate and from there it would be given to random Eldian child born the very same day. The thing that it's stated that way, means that at least once such situation has happened... (maybe one of Fritz ancestors wanted to end the whole Titan-thing, but was unsuccessful with it).
So... your initial count of 145 Kings of Fritz dynasty living exactly 13 years doesn't realy make sense....
1st -> Founding Titan wasn't controled directly by Fritz himself
2nd -> at least once Founding Titan wasn't inherited and as such, power went loose
As for why it's 845. It's freaking simple. As you said -> AoT was inspired by Nordic mythology and belives... and in 845, Ragnar Lodbrok (the Viking leader) siedged and conquered Paris, who was a fortified walled city. Ragnar is both historical and mythological persons - belived by his commrades and followers to be son of Odin.
So 845 is strait analogy between Colosal Titan attacking Wall Maria and Viking Siege of Paris. Vikings entered the city and plundered it. (could guess also slaugthered some of citizens)- same as Titan's did...
2000 is probably just a nice round number... i wouldn't get attached much to it... other than back in 1150s slavery was a common thing... also incest in royal/noble families wasn't so uncommon even in Ancient Rome.
As for 2000, It seems more like a biblical reference to me. Similarities to Ymir's time and Babylon make biblical/historical sense, the image of Ymir gaining power after making a deal with the devil and eating a fruit is a biblical reference, the existence of giants is biblical, and we are currently 2000 years after Christ. Those who believe, or at least consider, the seven millennial clock since creation mark 2000 years after Christ as the time when the Beast will rule.
it doesnt mention specifically the Founder dying and getting sent to a random Eldian, its all titan shifters. if the founder went loose it probably wouldn't have been able to be found again as the child wouldnt be of royal blood, and thus, unable to use it, the child would also die at 13, too early to have even known about the power or how to use it. therefore, if the founder went loose, it wouldnt have been found again. It was likely a Marleyan titan that got lost and the king used the founder to find which eldian got it and give it back to marley.
and this video was posted on 13th january
Lmaoooo
the 13 is honestly just isayama trolling and putting in easter eggs. he likes to do that
Ymir's power was divided into 9 because she had three daughters who were forced to eat their mother's carcass to inherit her powers. These three children would later have children of their own, presumably three each so therefore nine in total. As with their mothers before them, they were forced to eat their own mothers' corpse as well and thus each children inherit 1/9 of Ymir's power. Their next generation would only choose one inheritor so that the power won't be further divided. Each inheritor eventually lead their own clan but the founding titan would always be from the Fritz clan and become the monarch.
I think the 13 years life span comes from Ymir's age from the time she got the titan power until she died from the spear, so the curse exists because of Ymir's death and it's established from her age since she got the power... if she died 20 years since she got the titan power, I think the curse is 20 years life span... the only thing this theory lacks is ymir's age, Isayama didn't write/tell about her age, so yeah... but to me it actually makes more sense than connecting it to how the pages of the chapter are kinda silly to me
I think each page represents a year in ymir's life. So its not so much the curse exists because of the 13 pages, but there are 13 pages because she lived for 13 years
yes, but if ymir didnt want to die, she couldve used the founder's power to stop herself from dying. she wanted to die and wanted the titans to only live 13 years.
104 is 8 tines 13, and 845 is 65 times 13, don't know if it matters
Does anybody know why Ymir divided in 9 titan shifters?
She had three daughters that inherited the power eating her. But this means that there will be 3 titan shifters, no? Where did the other 6 titan powers come?
the kids had 3 kids. It stopped at 9.
@@jarellbess1432 why it stopped at 9?
And we don't know if ymir's children had three kids.
Maria rose and sina is Ymir's kid bruh, i think u should rewatch the anime dude
@@OrangR4ndom yes, I know this of course.
I literally say in the comment that Ymir had three daughters, dude.
My question is where the other six power came from? And why it stopped at 9 titan shifters?
@@Lumigle the hints for that are in the Manga, if you haven't read it, don't bother, if you did I'll explain below
Manga Content:
The surviving warriors and scouts arrive at Erens skeletal body from which Eren summons the bodies of past titan shifters to fight them. Some of these have very interesting designs, the cart titan in particular, having animal heads or other features in many instances and we can see one titan having the shape of a crocodile with strong jaw and walking on all fours, suggesting that ymirs 3 daughters might have had a mixture of the 9 titans in them, that their children would inherit, with cart and beast having been tied for a long time.
Cart, Jaw and Beast being one,
Armored, Colossal and Warhammer the second,
Founder, Female and Attack the third.
Why it stopped at 9 isn't really clear, there is a theory linking the paths and the tree the ancient creature lived in to Yggdrasil the world tree. A tree at the center, three main branches and 9 connected worlds with ragnarok being predestined to happen.
Hope that helps a bit :3
The number 104, being 13 x 8, could also refer to the fact that at that time in history there are only 8 titan shfiters, not the usual 9.
you're implying the war hammer didn't exist at that point in time, but it did: it was shown in the panel with the other eight titans from thousands of years ago, and it played a vital role in ending the great titan war alongside king fritz
@@harryhouli1121 No I'm not. The Founding and Attack titans were in one person then, thus 8 shifters.
@@Mechsrule1 ooh youre right, i somehow inferred you specifically meant the war hammer titan didn't exist lol
1:34 i don't think the walls have 845 years, because they were created by king karl around 100 years before the start of the series (and you say this at 9:08)
I thought 845 was used as it's when Marley got its freedom
Holly shit!
This is so deep!
“ Even though he's seemingly never received a memory from the future, the Attack Titan's powers still allowed Eren to see the future when he kissed Historia's hand, in an extremely roundabout way… “
Me thinking based on all that maybe Eren did see the good ending all too many times but never liked that idea! Due to its too easy, & It’s never ending. For example I think Eren can see the memories of Future Titans as well right down into that person life! I think he been doing that for a while…. But the main Manga & Anime hasn’t really said so.
YET! 😮
ALSO!! Commander Erwin was the 13th commander of the Scout Regiment 🥺🥺🥺
It sounds like overthinking but it also makes sense HOW???
2:53 chapter 138 page 45 is mikasa kissing eren
Nice calculations dude!
That's a lot of math
great vid
13•13=139
Heavy spoiler.
My theory: the dream sequence is really alt timeline where Eren absolutely regret after he caused the war with Marley, become the no.1 enemy and ran away with Mikasa, so he chosed to undo this future by sending himself/ manipulate his memory back to year 845 where it all began and will be changed forever.
hitch wasnt from the 104th cadets group but nice pick up
Hitch was a 104th cadet graduate, just not from the same division as Eren and the others who were from the southern division.
@@peachyjoon6673 fr? i had no idea tthere were different divisiions
@@peachyjoon6673 ohhh so they had camps in the north south easst and west... makes sense now
Its all a coincidence. You are thinking too much
Some of it may just be coincidences, but alot of them make too much sense to just be coincidences.
Ur comment is 13 d ago😨😱😱
Ur comment is 13 d ago😨😱😱
Wow. This is pretty cool.