When The Steps To The Promise Don’t Make Sense: Kenneth Copeland Talks The Key To Your Future

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  • Опубликовано: 6 янв 2025

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  • @AMightyFortress
    @AMightyFortress 28 дней назад +8

    Whose here from the messed up church

    • @MrLeer294
      @MrLeer294 25 дней назад

      I wanted to see it in full but yeah I came cause I saw the 3 min video by Kozar.

  • @atfaithvalue1728
    @atfaithvalue1728 28 дней назад +5

    Kenneth Copeland has been a consistent example of someone spreading heresies, false prophecies and lies

  • @chingersgolucky7512
    @chingersgolucky7512 9 месяцев назад +5

    2 Peter 2 perfectly describes Kenneth Copeland and everything that came out of Azusa street.

  • @paulasweeney7713
    @paulasweeney7713 10 месяцев назад +11

    Terrific. !!!! Thank you Joni for inviting. Brother Copeland, the General. Of. FAITH. Of whom I highly respect & honor. Joni you are so very gracious, simply lovely Sister in. Christ. !!🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🧸

  • @Mistylynn442
    @Mistylynn442 10 месяцев назад +13

    That’s what I mean what I really love about Ken Copeland is she just doesn’t tell you or preacher, but he shows you where it’s at in the word of God and what God says about it.

  • @reattam
    @reattam 10 месяцев назад +36

    I LOVE Kenneth Copeland and Gloria ❤. I've been a partner for over 25 years. He taught me to call things that are not as though they were!! Speak to your mountain!!
    We have reaped a wayward teenager that turned a 360 and came to the Lord. We believed for a home and God supernaturally provided and we built a beautiful home in 2013 debt FREE. I could go on..... God is no respecter a person. Make a covenant w JESUS and He will bless you beyond measure ❤.

    • @bettylaban9696
      @bettylaban9696 10 месяцев назад +1

      I would like to hear more about this. Been trusting God for my son's life's transformation and no longer know how to pray

    • @devonharrison7124
      @devonharrison7124 10 месяцев назад +1

      God can do all things 💪💥🙏 We only have to BELIEVE THAT ❤️!

    • @seattlegirl2077
      @seattlegirl2077 9 месяцев назад

      Do you love him flying around in his personal multi million dollar jets?

    • @noemibarrios4056
      @noemibarrios4056 2 месяца назад

      @@seattlegirl2077His jets go to 3rd world countries not only preaching the gospel but but taking medical supplies and he also takes doctors to treat people What have you done for the kingdom of God Seattle girl? Nothing but criticizing and you will have to face God one day!

    • @seattlegirl2077
      @seattlegirl2077 2 месяца назад

      @@noemibarrios4056 Hmmm. I think Copeland has forgotten that Jesus spoke of giving up all that you have to follow him. Do you think he'd give up that multi million dollar house he lives in or his multi millions in the bank? I doubt it.

  • @donnale3881
    @donnale3881 9 месяцев назад +7

    Has anyone been to the Copelands tax free massive mansion that his followers paid for? Why does he spend all the money his followers give on outlandish luxuries for himself? Is that even legal?

  • @davidbusk2255
    @davidbusk2255 10 месяцев назад +16

    Love Brother Kenneth Copeland
    He has greatly impacted my life

    • @donnale3881
      @donnale3881 9 месяцев назад

      I hope “impacted” means you’ve been guided in a compassionate direction, that you accept people for who they are even if they are different from you. But I’m curious, have you seen the outrageous tax-free mega mansion he bought himself using his followers money? Are you ok with him spending all the money his followers give on outlandish luxuries for himself. Is that even legal?

    • @noemibarrios4056
      @noemibarrios4056 2 месяца назад

      @@donnale3881 Wow you need to get before God and repent of judging you have no idea all that he does you just blabb too much you don’t have the fear of God on you There are no luxurious mansions you heard and read that from gossip magazines God has a lot to say about gossip shame on you!!!

  • @ConsistentlyInconsistent
    @ConsistentlyInconsistent 9 месяцев назад +3

    Kenneth spoke to me and said "Now, study George Washington." I did and I found out what Kenneth said wasn't true. George Washington started the Treaty of Tripoli with "As the government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian Religion..."
    This was signed by John Adams, reviewed by Congress and ratified. That's why the US doesn't have an official religion or an official language.

  • @EuniceForcet
    @EuniceForcet 10 месяцев назад

    My covenant promise was sealed the second Sunday after I became born again when Jesus came and sat next to me in Church after the service had ended and told me about a task that He had for me to do. I listened to the details, then said my "YES". Even the way that I became born again was orchestrated by God. The Great Apostle Dr. William Bonner of the Church of our Lord Jesus Christ, came to Canada for a Holy Convocation at the Sheraton Centre in Toronto. It was amazing how I attended this conference and Dr. Bonner said that they were sent there for me as I had a great work to do for the Lord. All of this is very amazing. God is trying to give a message that He is no respecter of persons.

  • @Zanna55158
    @Zanna55158 9 месяцев назад +18

    He’s an actor, and his act is to convince people that he’s leading them to heaven so they’ll give him their money. He's more than an actor , he's actively leading people to hell. His demeanor is so sinister he doesn’t even seem real. Like a villain in a horror movie. And yet a lot of people follow him, that is more scary then him :/ Jesus Said..”You Cannot Serve God and money too.” That’s enough for me!

    • @RonnieMckinney98
      @RonnieMckinney98 9 месяцев назад +6

      Perfectly said! I was thinking of the exact same thing. The scariest thing is there’s people around the world are still to this day follow, support and defend this man. It’s really to say at least. You know just by looking at him is like watching a horror movie.

    • @Lucky-ws3hx
      @Lucky-ws3hx 9 месяцев назад +3

      Amen

    • @donnale3881
      @donnale3881 9 месяцев назад +4

      Have you seen the outrageous tax-free mansion he bought himself using his followers money? He spends all the money his followers give on outlandish luxuries for himself. How is that even legal? It’s the ultimate grift!

    • @bootsy7
      @bootsy7 3 месяца назад

      And the sad thing about is Joni is good for hosting false teachers the she got Joel Osteen sister on there talking about he's a general and the rest of the girls at the table are schills

  • @jennifertopliss1028
    @jennifertopliss1028 9 месяцев назад +4

    TV Anyone reading this ask the Holy Spirit to open yours eyes to the truth. You'll be surprised.

  • @luke184lisa
    @luke184lisa 10 месяцев назад +4

    Today has been a “trying day” to say the least. I was given my earthly assignment in 2005.. and the promise.. the breakthrough/promise has not happened.. it is now 2024….

    • @danilaroche1156
      @danilaroche1156 10 месяцев назад +1

      What was that assignment? I'm curious.

  • @EuleenIreneSmith-eq2xi
    @EuleenIreneSmith-eq2xi 10 месяцев назад +5

    Thank you Joni for having pastor Kenneth Copeland to your show. I love the Copeland family so so much 💓 💗 ❤️ 💖

    • @donnale3881
      @donnale3881 9 месяцев назад

      Have you seen the outrageous tax-free mansion he bought himself using his followers money? He spends all the money his followers give on outlandish luxuries for himself. How is that even legal? It’s the ultimate grift!

    • @seattlegirl2077
      @seattlegirl2077 9 месяцев назад

      @@donnale3881 No kidding. And the airplane(s)?

    • @noemibarrios4056
      @noemibarrios4056 2 месяца назад

      @@donnale3881 Did you see this with your own eyes or read about this in gossip magazines shame on you!

  • @HBFaulkner
    @HBFaulkner 10 месяцев назад +6

    My precious spiritual father! My heart leaps seeing him!

    • @donnale3881
      @donnale3881 9 месяцев назад

      I hope that means you’ve been guided in a compassionate direction, that you accept people for who they are even if they are different from you. But I’m curious, have you seen the outrageous tax-free mega mansion he bought himself using his followers money? Are you ok with him spending all the money his followers give on outlandish luxuries for himself. Is that even legal?

  • @josephavila151
    @josephavila151 10 месяцев назад +22

    Copeland. A wolf in sheeps clothing flying around in hundred million dollar jets.

    • @ShabreHares
      @ShabreHares 9 месяцев назад +1

      You greatly deceived. Plz go read your Bible

  • @leilasilva1571
    @leilasilva1571 10 месяцев назад +7

    Thank you for The Blood covenant. It is eternal. The Blood of Jesus never will lose its power.

  • @tylermackey6495
    @tylermackey6495 10 месяцев назад +12

    Did the energy In that room seem tense to anyone?

    • @RonnieMckinney98
      @RonnieMckinney98 10 месяцев назад +6

      Yes, the energy in that room was way off! It’s giving demonic type of vibes.

    • @Lucky-ws3hx
      @Lucky-ws3hx 9 месяцев назад +1

      Indeed

    • @kendamogford6592
      @kendamogford6592 8 месяцев назад

      That's because Kenneth Copeland is demon-possessed.

  • @debbiesmith5455
    @debbiesmith5455 10 месяцев назад +6

    I love Kenneth and Gloria!!

  • @carolinekajuju4507
    @carolinekajuju4507 9 месяцев назад

    God's servant. I love Kenneth copeland

  • @iwuchukwuobie4835
    @iwuchukwuobie4835 10 месяцев назад +4

    Thank you Pastor Copeland and Joni

  • @angelinetoringa6032
    @angelinetoringa6032 10 месяцев назад +36

    Those who are saying he is a false preacher thats your own opinion, his ministry has changed many lives,whether you like him or not,the final judgment and verdict on his life is from God himself not your opinions

    • @kellyhiller3977
      @kellyhiller3977 10 месяцев назад +11

      How about scripture?

    • @angelinetoringa6032
      @angelinetoringa6032 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@kellyhiller3977 If u watch this video right now,you will see he was using scripture🤷

    • @cassandradelvegablanco5299
      @cassandradelvegablanco5299 10 месяцев назад +2

      He's demon possessed. Watch how GOD'S going to deal with him, this year

    • @kenrichmond6906
      @kenrichmond6906 10 месяцев назад +14

      His extravagant lifestyle doesn’t exactly screen of Jesus. Besides, are you not giving an opinion by posting this? People can have their own opinions that actually align with scripture not his name it claim it mess.

    • @barrymitchell5517
      @barrymitchell5517 10 месяцев назад +9

      Brother Copeland has changed my life as well. God bless that anointed man of GOD

  • @mommyonmission1758
    @mommyonmission1758 9 месяцев назад +8

    Shame on you Daystar for bringjng this wolf on your program. Where is your discernment? My spirit is so grieved by this. Praying the Lord sets you free from the deception of the last days! Even so, come Lord Jesus!

    • @keithpace9870
      @keithpace9870 17 дней назад

      Are you kidding me? Prosperity wolves in sheep clothing hunt in packs. Greg Locke is a big supporter of Benny Hinn. Kenneth is good friends with Bill Johnson. T.D Jakes, Michael Todd and Steven Furtick back all each other up.

  • @vickie5524
    @vickie5524 10 месяцев назад +8

    Amen! Stay in faith! We have a blood coveant

  • @bootsy7
    @bootsy7 3 месяца назад +3

    There sure a lot of sheep out and leave it to Jon and Osteen sister to call this wolf a general of the faith

  • @michellegibson4144
    @michellegibson4144 10 месяцев назад +18

    Good-bye... wow! Unsubscribed...

  • @nancywebb4389
    @nancywebb4389 10 месяцев назад +5

    Love Brother Kenneth Copeland have been learning from him for years and still learning

  • @applefeliciaonly
    @applefeliciaonly 9 месяцев назад +5

    How could you have this false teacher? Please all read your scripture! He has blasphemed my God. I was a subscriber until I saw this. I saw some red flags before but this def sealed the deal. Praying for all those to have discernment.

  • @bootsy7
    @bootsy7 3 месяца назад +2

    It's amazing how many blind people that are in the body of Christ and another show that Joni has featured another false prophet she's notorious for that

  • @sonyagraske376
    @sonyagraske376 10 месяцев назад +6

    God says he will not know you by your words but by the way you live. Kenneth Copeland ? I definitely am not one to be his judge, but i do see how he lives. 🤔😫

  • @astinchcomb32
    @astinchcomb32 10 месяцев назад +2

    I’m so excited to see Kenneth Copeland!!!!!!! This is wonderful 🎉

  • @requeteque1970
    @requeteque1970 9 месяцев назад +14

    and he is also a false teacher and great pawn of the devil...congratulations guys what a great discernment you guys have

    • @ShabreHares
      @ShabreHares 9 месяцев назад +1

      You are greatly deceived. Plz read your bible

    • @bootsy7
      @bootsy7 3 месяца назад +3

      ​@@ShabreHaresno you're the deceived one if you can't see this wake up

  • @donnale3881
    @donnale3881 9 месяцев назад +2

    Jesus didn’t take anyone’s hard earned money and buy himself anything, especially expensive homes and cars. Jesus didn’t exclude anyone, everyone mattered. I’m sick of this condemning and judgmental mind set of todays for-profit “Christian’s”.

  • @devonharrison7124
    @devonharrison7124 10 месяцев назад +5

    Amen 🙌 the Constitution and Declaration of Independence were written by inspiration of God! Thank God for the men of God 🙏❤️💫

    • @donnale3881
      @donnale3881 9 месяцев назад

      That is not factually true. If you actually read the constitution, the declaration and writings of our founding fathers you will learn that they did not use religion, especially a specific religion, as the foundation of this country. They believed that religions were a personal thing, and had no place in creating a collective society ruled by laws, not ‘some people’s’ personal beliefs.

    • @noemibarrios4056
      @noemibarrios4056 2 месяца назад

      @@donnale3881Wrong! Read my previous responses you are a sad person!

  • @KGraceSpeaksKea1335
    @KGraceSpeaksKea1335 8 месяцев назад

    “and being not wise they found themselves in the covenant of men” is a reference to the story of the Magi, also known as the Three Wise Men, in the Bible. According to the Gospel of Matthew, these wise men from the East, who were astrologers and scholars, followed a star to Bethlehem to worship the newborn King of the Jews, Jesus Christ.
    Despite their wisdom and knowledge, they were not wise in the sense that they did not understand the true nature of Jesus’ birth and the significance of their journey. They were seeking a king, not a savior, and were led by their own understanding of the stars and omens.
    In this sense, they “found themselves” in the covenant of men, meaning that they were caught up in the human understanding of Jesus’ birth and the expectations of the Jewish people, rather than recognizing the divine nature of the event. They were not aware of the true purpose of Jesus’ birth, which was to save humanity from sin and bring redemption to the world.
    Their story serves as a reminder that even those who are wise and knowledgeable can still be led astray if they do not seek to understand the deeper truths of God’s plan.
    Romans 1:22
    22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools

  • @rumaabba8875
    @rumaabba8875 10 месяцев назад +5

    Praise the Lord for KCM and victory channel 🕊🕊♥️🔥, thank u Lord Jesus for ur fold ministers Hallelujah 🙌🤗

  • @jesusisking2036
    @jesusisking2036 9 месяцев назад +4

    It appears Daystar loves money more than Jesus, just like this charlatan you've showcased. Shame on all of you!

  • @scottcamp9266
    @scottcamp9266 9 месяцев назад +3

    Much of his understanding of American history is simply factually in error😔

  • @nitahicks6936
    @nitahicks6936 10 месяцев назад +1

    What a lovely show. Thank you Daystar.

  • @amymartin5578
    @amymartin5578 7 месяцев назад +3

    I have always liked the show, and when I saw that this guest was coming on I thought it was a joke or something. This man is so evil to the core. How can people of God not see this? I’m shocked. Unsubscribed.

  • @gaileenholm3945
    @gaileenholm3945 10 месяцев назад +1

    Praise God! It is so good to hear brother Kenneth Copeland on your show! I discovered him 20+ years ago and his teaching on faith & covenant with God changed the direction of my walk with Jesus Christ to become more dynamic! His wife Gloria also revolutionized my faith walk concerning personal healing in my body and mind! Praise God for both of them! I hope you have him back and or Gloria on the show!

  • @grahmedmisten231
    @grahmedmisten231 6 месяцев назад +1

    Daystar has Kenneth Copeland then it has Michael Yousseff. HAHAHA.
    I'm not saying their bad, its the saying "mixed bag". TBN was a mixed bag, and Daystar seems to be a mixed bag. God's the judge for Copeland so. Just cause he is famous does'nt mean he need to repent more than the others, anyone who is accused of charlantry whether or not they are Christians is up to the Lord.

  • @teresamarsh6017
    @teresamarsh6017 10 месяцев назад +16

    Unsubscribing ... Kenneth Copeland, really??

    • @RonnieMckinney98
      @RonnieMckinney98 10 месяцев назад +4

      That’s the same thing I had said! Kenneth Copeland! Really?

    • @jerryvikla3925
      @jerryvikla3925 9 месяцев назад +5

      @@RonnieMckinney98I said the same exact thing!

    • @Lucky-ws3hx
      @Lucky-ws3hx 9 месяцев назад +3

      💯

  • @ZariHisChosen
    @ZariHisChosen 27 дней назад +1

    Did any one see Kenneth drinking blood

  • @WanderingNasi
    @WanderingNasi 9 месяцев назад +3

    Baldness be gone!! 😂 I can’t say I’ve seen too many good things about him

  • @shawnmcquillan3874
    @shawnmcquillan3874 10 месяцев назад +4

    TY Joni! As always, excellent show♥️

  • @grahmedmisten231
    @grahmedmisten231 4 месяца назад

    I just dont want the Copelands to perish any one of them and again. I may be wrong!

  • @wanjikuwambui7529
    @wanjikuwambui7529 10 месяцев назад +2

    That was my word . From Joni …Received.

  • @sipilikepu
    @sipilikepu 10 месяцев назад +6

    Wow❤

  • @wanjikuwambui7529
    @wanjikuwambui7529 10 месяцев назад +1

    I love brother Copeland ..🙌 al just trade anything to hear him

  • @hhp2788
    @hhp2788 10 месяцев назад +2

    The BEST table talk!! LOVE IT and thank you :)

  • @gregmann5687
    @gregmann5687 10 месяцев назад

    What an incredibly professional, anointed show. Excellence from top to bottom. Thanks for being faithful to continue the work. :)

  • @dwaynedawe930
    @dwaynedawe930 10 месяцев назад +11

    Ive seen Kennerh Copeland call god the biggest failure in the bible he is not genuine his behavior ive seen in some of his sermonds is drumatic and ridiculous not who id expect to see on daystar,very disappointed in daystar I won't be watching as much from now on.

  • @NorthernGate777
    @NorthernGate777 9 месяцев назад +1

    Only God can reveal sin

  • @vickie5524
    @vickie5524 10 месяцев назад +5

    We. Have a blood covenant!

  • @Mistylynn442
    @Mistylynn442 10 месяцев назад +4

    Kenneth Copeland ministry has been the first ministry that has taught me to stand and speak the word of God by faith.. the first ministry that God has ever gotten me to sew into and become a partner. I am so grateful for this man because he has taught me a lot in the word of God. And that’s what I really admire about Kenneth and Gloria is that they show you where it is in the word of God and teach you what God says.

    • @taras4352
      @taras4352 10 месяцев назад +6

      Are you sure about that?? You might want to do a little research on him.

    • @rumaabba8875
      @rumaabba8875 10 месяцев назад

      Liberalis & religineous ppl allways anti fold ministers. While they them self given full loyalty for kingdom of darkness and active in divination spirit

    • @Lucky-ws3hx
      @Lucky-ws3hx 9 месяцев назад +1

      Lady grab your Bible yourself and search the scriptures and stop following demons

  • @raybruneski3931
    @raybruneski3931 10 месяцев назад +12

    Unsubscribing.

  • @lindiweshilaluke6517
    @lindiweshilaluke6517 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for the program. The pŕesence of the Lord is so tangible

  • @riaanpotgieter475
    @riaanpotgieter475 9 месяцев назад

    Amen 👏 🙌 ❤️ 🌹 🇮🇱 💕 🙏

  • @eddiesprain8243
    @eddiesprain8243 9 месяцев назад

    Ooie! Brother Copeland’s bringing some fire!

    • @Lucky-ws3hx
      @Lucky-ws3hx 9 месяцев назад

      Yes from satan!!!! How can u not see how demonic he is?

  • @Jewish5783
    @Jewish5783 10 месяцев назад

    This message has touched my life again and in fact helped me renew my mind and changed my perspective. I thank God for Sir Kenneth Copeland and the women. Thank You for Joni Table🙏🏽

  • @EugeniaChainda-gf9oi
    @EugeniaChainda-gf9oi 10 месяцев назад +4

    Jony você é muito especial e mulher forte❤❤❤❤

  • @sarabeth21ful
    @sarabeth21ful 10 месяцев назад

    We Love Brother Copeland so much!!!

  • @nicolevos4281
    @nicolevos4281 10 месяцев назад +2

    HE is AN AWESOME MAN of GOD.......... !!!!!!!!

  • @danilaroche1156
    @danilaroche1156 10 месяцев назад +6

    This guy is just odd. Sorry!

  • @danieldowdell9831
    @danieldowdell9831 10 месяцев назад

    Good Today ! __" Jesus the Christ of GOD ", a simple trueth easily found in the early Writtings of the Jewish Be-Livers of the " Way, Trueth, Life ". __ humbly, neighbour daniel __ p.s. thanks for increasing knowledge in this our troubled time .

  • @mddirubies2392
    @mddirubies2392 10 месяцев назад

    Thanks Papa Copeland for enriching our lives with your amazing life of faith.... I'm so privileged to be alive in your days. What an Apostle of faith!

  • @gregrowell8688
    @gregrowell8688 10 месяцев назад

    We need to come togeather in The Body of Christ. And and no alow this division.

  • @gomezokpala7956
    @gomezokpala7956 10 месяцев назад

    Oh Joni it's so wonderful seeing our father of Faith Kenneth Copeland on your program. He opened up the mysteries of faith to the Christian world, and today stands as one of the colossus on earth of biblical faith. I am so thrilled to listen to him here.🙏🏾😊👍🏾

  • @judithkirt9068
    @judithkirt9068 10 месяцев назад

    I love kennth copleand and Gloria they are truly from god and they know how God thinks and his ways

  • @J.S.9575
    @J.S.9575 9 месяцев назад

    God has used KCM to change my own life and that of million others. Amazing how many comments here are negative slander towards a brother in the faith. Do not call yourself Christian if you speak so evil about your brother!

    • @WanderingNasi
      @WanderingNasi 9 месяцев назад +1

      ”“Watch out for false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruit. Grapes aren’t gathered from thorn bushes or figs from thistles, are they? Even so, every good tree produces good fruit, but the rotten tree produces bad fruit. A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce good fruit.“
      ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭7‬:‭15‬-‭18‬ ‭TLV‬‬

  • @sandyliz1363
    @sandyliz1363 10 месяцев назад

    I am a who he can't (devour )🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳

  • @ZariHisChosen
    @ZariHisChosen 27 дней назад

    Wake up 😂

  • @vanderwaltswart536
    @vanderwaltswart536 10 месяцев назад

    Oh yes brother Kenneth is my father in the faith.

  • @moorejesus
    @moorejesus 10 месяцев назад

    By reading the comments, I’d be a lot less concerned with Pastor Copeland, and far more concerned with the offense in your heart. Being offended doesn’t make you more holy, the Pharisees became offended. Get checked.

    • @felixmbaka7939
      @felixmbaka7939 10 месяцев назад

      Very true

    • @Lucky-ws3hx
      @Lucky-ws3hx 9 месяцев назад +3

      Unfortunately you have no truth in you neither does this show

    • @bootsy7
      @bootsy7 3 месяца назад

      ​@@Lucky-ws3hxyou're right there's a lot of sheep that are totally uneducated and blind

    • @beccasharp6346
      @beccasharp6346 27 дней назад

      Jesus told us we will know them by their fruit. You have zero discernment of this wolf in sheep's clothing.

  • @gregrowell8688
    @gregrowell8688 10 месяцев назад

    Why are there some in the minstry, that come agenst this man and outhers. I cant't disagre with any thing he's saying. WHAT IN WORLD IS THEIR PROBLEM? I WON't name them. But they will have to give acount.

  • @shush03
    @shush03 10 месяцев назад

    Amazing show. Yes, Pastor Copeland has controversial views but speaks with great authority. Very interesting.

  • @lynghee159
    @lynghee159 10 месяцев назад +1

    🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱✝️🇺🇸

  • @rumaabba8875
    @rumaabba8875 10 месяцев назад +1

    Sinner prayer tradition = obselete