I recorded a horrible termination meeting because I knew I was going to be wrongfully terminated. Resulted in a six figure settlement. We have the right to protect ourselves from menacing behavior.
@@squishybear5728 agreed! But that’s not what happened here. A rebellious disgruntled employee who refused to do their job makes accusations against their employer. It’s complicated because it is a family and a ministry.
@@dd4run I think you are referring to yourself. I have watched the videos and read the articles. I did not know anything about Daystar until this but I do know how business and authority work. Jonathan should have been fired from the word go. It is only because he is her son that he was tolerated. He is prideful and insubordinate.
Excellent work Julie Roys. I was a former newscaster and reporter. Your interviews and information are very professional and clear. I admire what you do. Keep fighting the good fight. I was raised in a spiritually abusive home and married a spiritually abusive man too. I know Jonathan and Suzy are telling the truth and I can see the lying spirit on Joni. I receive horrible "wise Christian" council that made things worse, challenged my faith, and nearly destroyed my life but God carried me through. Thank you Julie Roys.
I'm glad that you did NOT give up on Christ Jesus because of the spiritual abuse of broken people. Prayerfully, you learned a lot and now are able to clearly discern spiritual abuse, manipulation, deceit and other demonic activity. More importantly, I pray that you are using this discernment to war against Satan and his imps, as well as warring in intercession FOR the Body of Christ, the Church.
@@keledimazibuko1453 is this what you call safe. Telling The world! The world knows your business. Julie Roy’s is pandering to suzie as she is bigging her up. In fact they are both bigging each other up. They both need each other. No one had ever heard of Julie Roy’s until this came out.
@tumbleweed116 Julie is well known. She's doing the "cleanup" work that the corrupt church denominations she's exposing should be doing for themselves. But instead they are in compromise. Word says to judge yourselves, and to judge righteously, and to not be part of the corruption that's in the world through lust.
@ ha ha, they are not victims. That is only what they are claiming. And what they have portrayed to the world. I have learnt over the years to LOOK FOR 5HE FRUIT, (and theirs is rotten), and to question everything. Which I have done.
I would feel more secure about what he said if he did an interview by himself without his wife for a minute. He obviously agrees with her a lot. Not saying that they're not being truthful.
and on the flip side of that, has anyone noticed how many times Joni clears her throat when making statements. That's a sign of nervousness and dishonesty.
@@RufusCat I just commented on that to my son while watching this. Clears her throat and coughs. It is often a sign of psychological distress and conflict. In other words, lying.
@rosesteele2393 Johnathan is one of the most humble individuals I've ever known ever if I have never met him in person. May God blessed his family. I love them Dearly 💗
@@RufusCat yes!!! Also… watch how often her body language is incongruent with her words. Shaking head no while making affirmative statement. The body opposes the lie from the mouth. See her statement at Marcus’s memorial service @1:35:42. “Marcus was a wonderful husband.” If she is not lying, she must be very troubled to disagree with herself so frequently. 🤷🏻♀️
MARCUS ROGERS NEEDS TO PUBLICLY APOLOGIZE TO YOU BOTH. I was shocked when he caved! I will not listen to him again. So sorry for what you have been through.
Thank God that Jonathan taped these meetings. I’ve been a Table Talk fan for years and without hearing this with my own ears I never would have believed it.
No kidding!! Joni is blinded by her focus on herself and this ministry that she can’t appreciate the children God gave her. And to expect them to just give up their own convictions and go along with this unbiblical marriage to Dougie is ridiculous. They were wanting to protect their mother and she just accused them of “ Fear! “ and bolted out. Behaving like a spoiled rich brat. Great wealth does great damage to a lot of people and relationships I’ve noticed.
@patiencenkrumah1528 And??? What has that to with with what has happened for the last four years? Jonathan is finally learning that his parents were wrong to have indoctrinated into their children this stupid forced "submission doctrine. To learn about spiritual matters is the only way to have a relationship with your Heavenly Dad. Which has nothing to do with your upbringing. Marcus Lamb lied. Joni Lamb lied. Fortunately, Jonathan has renewed his mind. He will keep speaking out against cults, manipulation, control, and most importantly, against his mother's uncontrollably lying spirit. God knows!
Thank you Julie Roys for helping Jonathon and Suzy. Thank you Jonathon and Suzy for continuing-to stand firm I know that this is helping others, helping them to gain courage to come forward with their situations.
@@dollywright9647 They have documents, videos, audio and support from a family counsellor to back up their assertions. What is your assertion based on?
I don't understand why people uphold Marcus Lamb as an icon of integrity when he had an affair with a staff member for 7 years. Then he and Joni both kept it a secret. They both have a history of lies and deceit. How is Doug's manipulation, narcissistic behavior and lack of integrity any different than Marcus's? And even Joni for deceiving hundreds of thousands. And Marcus and Joni lied about being extorted. Another huge lie that affected the lives of innocent people.
@@charlottepratt3751Agreed! I can't help thinking of Jack Nickleson's 'Joker' face..when I see Marcus's static smile!..& the eyes! Sorry! I cringe everytime I hear someone talk about Marcus's 'legacy'. It takes time to allow the smoke to clear..if you are in the vicinity of the fire..but I think we are only beginning to see the ACTUAL LEGACY..& I am so sorry for them!
Joni's husband died unexpectedly. Two months after his death, Doug, a close friend of the couple divorces his wife of 30 years and starts dating Joni. One year later they get married. At the very least this looks bad. The Bible says abstain from all appearence of evil. It's like watching a lifetime movie drama yet Joni continues to double down defending the indefensible. It's as if she has no shame and no conscience.
Right! Might have been innocent and coincidence but the way the dated and married so quickly doesn't look good. Joni was widowed and in a vulnerable state; Doug moved in too quickly in my opinion. Seems suspect.
Before this situation with daystar I had never heard of Julie Roys, but this lady is very thorough with her interviews and I am so glad that Jonathan and Suzy have her to talk to. It is clear they are telling the truth and I stand with them. They are people of integrity and their spirit is pure. Praying for justice for their daughter and for her emotional healing and well being. Praying for you guys and thank you for standing bodly in spite of the circumstances and persecution. Jesus is with you.
I disagree. They did not cover it up. They went to a counsellor and took it as far as they could. They did not want a world platform for this intimate matter. I get it, this may feel.like betrayal but It seems, legally at this time, there is no more to be done. God does a much better job than us of exposing what needs to be exposed. I am disappointed that you taped those meetings. This will cause a great wound which will take a very long time to heal. Please stop. Everyone in the world knows this happened to your daughter. How does this help her or you both? If you were to hear my voice as I share, I am.sad about all of this. For everyone. Please pursue healing with your family when and if you are able. We can gain much insight when we try to put ourselves in one another's shoes. Do you really believe Joni has been immoral? Or Doug? Provision is made in the Bible for divorce. Jeremiah 3 talks about how God gave the children of Israel a Certificate of Divorce because of their sin. In the New Testament, divorce is permitted for adultery. What if all of our sins were posted on a projection screen? There is still a place for you on Daystar, there's a place for everyone in your family, and it takes nothing from them or you when all of you use your talents for God. My heart genuinely goes out to you. This will destroy you, if you continue on this path. I'm sad about this. ALL.of you have so much to contribute. Suzie, would you want words spoken in your most private moments taped and shared with the world? Are you at peace with all of this? And I am disappointed in all of the "Christians", who have 'weighed' in on this. Their self righteous judgemental know it all attitude is alarming. No wonder some people don't want to go to church Jonathon your mother has what 15 or 20 years left? Life is short. Fix this. Communicate privately your true feelings and put yourself in one another's shoes. Your parents did not abandon you. They tried. They feel.betrayed as well
This is bigger than just getting their own ministry All is the ministry of Jesus Yes Johnathan has a ministry called Daystar Clearly the enemy has gotten Joni & she must step down But we the body need to stay in the word and recognize what is happening & follow what Paul has taught us & how to handle these situations Bless Johnathon & his wife for bringing in open Pray !!
Prayer for your daughter , the one that has been hurt the most! So glad she’s had wonderful strong parents like you both! We all know the truth! We are all behind you don’t even give the bad sayers the time , we have your back!!
@@bethy8415 It’s all about the money! No federal financial accountability for the billion dollar TV Network Business since she is registering it as a church!
I watched a video of a marriage counselor who said that it is possible that Lisa was rejecting Doug because she was feeling and seeing who he is inside. He is creepy, he looks and sounds creepy. It does not look like he was acting in purity. A woman will senses that. Lisa was no fool and she saw through him. Allegedly he is nasty. Then, allegedly Joni is as well. There is a hormone that as soon a neglected woman by her husband, started to be courted by another man, it will raises and the woman goes blind and can't wait to hear and see this man again. Any man can do it, and any woman can get the same reaction. Specially Joni who was 100% neglected in her marriage. I doubt that their reconciliation was for love. It was a business decision and Jonathan believed.
Agree. I watched some of his videos from the past and.... he is vulgar... that's the first thing that stood out to me. Yuck. I don't know how his ex-wife put up with this for so long...
Very wise to record the meetings. Good legal advise was given .Jonathon and Suzy speak in a forth right steady manner. I like listening to them. They will come thru all of this well. Thank you Julie
Very pleased that the air has been cleared because Marcus did make a big mess but on the flip side God used his interview with Joni to further expose her lies hence the robbing of nose and coughs that she was constantly doing. However Jonathan and Suzy are more genuine and believable because no one will put their lives on the line just like that especially their private lives and family secrets for no reason if not that they have had enough!! We will continue to pray for them! Joni should step down!!Doug should leave Daystar and Joni and go away somewhere because they have cause a lot of damage to God,his church and this lovely couple and family(J&S) Jimmy Evans is already done!!Shame on all board members and the bullies!
Such an incredible situation, story. Appreciate the depth of investigation & reporting! And such a DEEP NEED for Prayer for Daystar to come clean, for leadership to REPENT, Seek Forgiveness, & for Reconciliation to occur, in Jesus’ Name….
Jonathan saying, No, I am not recording is absolutely forgivable. Like he said, he had a split second decision to make! And he made the right decision!!
Agreed. He never intended to share with us but shared the recordings with JONI to open her eyes to her own self deception & lying. >Reconnaissance missions always involve going "under cover." >If we are willing to dismiss Jonathan for saying he wasn't recording, we have to dismiss our veterans and all our global heroes who daily risk their lives to rescue the children who are being sex trafficked & many many many more heinous crimes against humanity.
Excellent video! I pray for Jonathan and Suzy and their family! God will provide for them. Daystar has treated them so poorly and it’s a shame! I’m so sorry they have to walk through this horrible trial! God will never leave you! God bless you Julie! ❤️
Julie, you have served Jonathan and Suzy with utmost respect and integrity. I'm happy to hear how they found you; truly a "Godwink" moment. Thank you for calling out Marcus Rogers for his falling prey to Joni's deception. They have been through so much emotional pain and turmoil. I thank God you are their voice for sharing the truth and holding Joni accountable for her actions. Your work has been of the highest caliber. If Joni cares ANYTHING about Daystar, she and Doug should remove themselves immediately. Tom Calendar needs to remove himself from the Board, no matter how long he and Marcus Lamb were friends. He's lost his objectivity and only cares about "protecting Daystar."
Not only that he should be ashamed for believing the lies of the manipulation of Joni he must not have a strong relationship with the Lord or he would witness what is the truth in his soul
If he doesn’t feel like a complete fool by now 🤓 if I was him I would wanna crawl into a hole and not put my face out there again for a very long time. I think it’s kinda funny how he was sooo arrogant and then like right after he puts these videos out stating how he he has all the emails and text messages etc etc, Julie releases more and more things to make him look soo foolish.
He wanted his 15 minutes of fame. He didn't use wisdom but his own understanding. He didn't do his homework and was sucked in by Joni's manipulation and control!
Because when someone is self seeking, any interferrance(sp?) from others becomes annoying. They are ruining it for you. Just like a cheater acts with their spouse.
Excellent work Julie Roys! We love and support you Jonathan, Suzy and your daughter and are praying and working for justice for you. With love from London
44:04 Joni’s comments about Suzy and Jonathans relationship is so demeaning and demoralizing to her son. How dare she imply that Jonathan isn’t a man of character that he’d be so easily manipulated by controlling wife. Further more I’m tired of people lying on God by saying “God revealed this to me”. Stop lying on God!
Because God doesn't speak this way. Even Jonathan and Suzy are doing the same. The quickening of the spirit. All from this gospel. It is charismatic to the stream. I do dream, but these people are saying they ask for a dream confirmation and the same night they dream about it. It is insane. John Paul Jackson was a big teacher on daystar of this. And he was telling Suzy she had the calling as this kind of thing. Dreams and visions teachings are dangerous, because we will dream stuff that has nothing to do with God.
Anyone who has been through spiritual abuse can spot the gaslighting Joni is doing. I endured 25 years of it. Classical christian bully behavior. And their favorite word is submission of course. Who is Joni submitting to?? A lot of people are paying close attention to this story because it is important to establish a standard in our community. In addition, keep in mind, that this exposing of spiritual abuse is very wide spread and has been going on for a long time and when you try to confront it, it is a stronghold you are confronting not just for your life and your situation, but also for all those victims who have not had the boldness to expose the abuse they have been through. This is bigger than you. Stay strong. We are all praying for you and for Julie, too.
People can degrade Suzy all day long, but you don't know what it's like to be in the middle of it. To be scared to death. To walk on eggshells. To be scared to speak up. To not have a voice! Then add your child gets molested, your mother in law betrays you. God bless you Suzy. Stand strong my sister. God sees you, He loves you. Isaiah 40:31.
@WisdomKnows-zw5xs Amen wisdom! Wish l had said it...God Bless your kind and tender heart! SWEET SUZY NEEDS ALL THE LOVE AND PRAYERS WE CAN SEND...THE WHOLE FAMILY! THANKS WISDOM🕊🕊🕊
I question Me Joni Lamb's understanding of the difference between the definition of a blogger (and there are competent bloggers) and an investigative journalist? Me J Lamb expresses her ignorance with her uneducated comments. On the flip side if Me J Lamb does have knowledge of the difference between a blogger and an investigative journalist, it says volumes about her need for sanctification; as we all need.
Every time I hear Joni talking about Jonathan and Suzy she sounds like she is talking about rebellious teenagers. “I allowed Jonathan to drive Marcus’s car.” That is not normal. They are adults.
Julie, I have been so impressed by your coverage of this saga. You have such professionalism along with genuine love and concern for the church. May you as well as Suzy and Jonathan be blessed with the joy and peace of Christ this Christmas ❤
While I feel badly for Lisa Weiss, she kept quiet the whole time Doug was counseling troubled married couples, and she and Doug were DIVORCED. They lied to their own staff at their counseling center and to the couples who trusted them. I hope Lisa speaks out soon.
I hope all these fake businesses will close their doors. They have the nerve to use God as facade. This is unacceptable, including Lisa. She is just like them if she keeps quiet. I have no respect for people that doesn't hold the true of God above everything and everyone.
I would be speaking out if it was being said I was abusing my husband and I wasn't. NDA be damned. Where is her faith. She could end some of this simply by telling the truth.
Two months after Joni and Doug “officially start dating” she puts down $37k for their honeymoon? Does anyone buy this? She’s a recent widow (only 11 months) and Doug’s been divorced for 5 months after a 30+ year marriage and they’re ready to marry? Nope. It stinks. I don’t believe it. This relationship started earlier than Aug 2022.
Doug had only been divorced for 3 months. The divorce was filed in January 2022. But it wasn’t finalized until May 2022. Him and Joni started talking in June 2022 (about a week later). But officially started dating in August 2022. It definitely isn’t adding up. I’m not “buying it”.
Rebecca has the biggest purest heart for God on that entire network ~ year after year her love and excitement for GOD has ALWAYS been solid ❤ You are so right ~ off and when she takes the brave step of trust (which is scary. Life is expensive ~ and when all you have known is what pays your bills, that step is frightening. Especially having children to feed) BUT, it will happen. She will speak up and trust the God she knows with all her heart ~ knowing His word is true. We all just need to keep praying for her ~ that any and all fear leave her heart ~ as well as the pull of not wanting to dishonor her mother ~ She will wake up one day and it will just click ~ ready to speak her truth ~ knowing that anyone that would try to stop her has an agenda that is self serving We love you Rebecca!!!❤❤❤
Joni talked a lot about Jonathan and Suzy. However, she barely mentioned her granddaughter being molested. She spent a lot of time speaking up for the innocency of Pete.
@@GirlPilot7 Please pray for them. They have been in this system for long and seem naive about the real hustle in the real world that includes people like Marcus Rogers.
There is nothing "low level" about you Julie. God will say "Well done, good and faithful servant..." You're a voice for the hurting and you're doing a remarkable job 👏 ❤
I cannot believe how many people are out there who say that they're Christian but don't read the Bible! Doesn't the body of Christ have to respect Authority? Shame on J and S(Ahab and Jezebel!)
@@sylviacatt1071 get out of here. You dont read the bible and your obviously not listening to the story. Joni ain t authority to anyone and Susie and Johnathan dont have to submit to her
Joni needs to repent so badly! God bless Jonathon and Suzy for standing up for God in their life! My prayers, for you, Jonathon and Suzy, is that Our Holy Father covers you with His Holy Spirit and gives you peace about this ! God bless your children and give your daughter peace! God knows your hearts!! Blessings!
I feel such a deep compassion for Suzy and Johnathan. I have quickly grown to love these two beautiful children of God! Your characters speak volumes to the masses. I hope they can clearly see and hear the truth!❤ All the glory be to God!!!
If Doug proposed on New Year's Eve, December 31st 2022, why did Joni in October 2022 put a $37,000 deposit on the Daystar credit card for her honeymoon if Doug had not even proposed yet?? Make it make sense. October 2022 - $37,000 deposit for honeymoon Dec 31, 2022 - Doug proposed Someone, please, make it make sense. The math ain't mathing.
'Cause they're lying. They know good and well they were already engaged in October. That engagement in December was for show. So what other parts of the relationship timeline are they lying about 🤔
@@marylandgirl9246Who cares, love is hard to find, once you find it, enjoy it! Life is short. Let God be their judge. If Marcus was shown so much mercy after his shortcomings, why shouldn't Doug and Joni be shown the same grace! Let them be and stop scrutinizing every detail of their relationship. Joni deserves to be happy after enduring that sting of betrayal. Does anyone imagine how HARD it must been for her to forgive, stay in the marriage and keep family together, no one gives my her credit for that. The SA is a separate issue, it is solely the parents responsibility to seek justice for their daughter.
The timeline is FIRE 🔥 💣. This makes it all very clear!!! Great work by an amazing reporter. Praise the Lord for those who are standing up for the biblical truth ❤
Thank you Julie for supporting these 2 beautiful people! I have been following their story and I stand with them and praying truth keep coming forward and God keeps lifting these 2 awesome people up! God has great plans for them and you too Julie! Blessings to you all!
“But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner-not even to eat with such a person.” 1 Corinthians 5:11 Jonathan & Suzy “To do what is right and just is more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice.” Galatians 6:9 tells us to keep doing good, even when it's tough. This verse promises God's reward for those who don't quit. Julie, Jonathan & Suzy: “But you, take courage! Do not let your hands be weak, for your work shall be rewarded.” 💚🙏🇮🇪
He fully repented. He was fully restored to his Father. The Bible is very clear about what happens when you pull a redeemed person under their old sin that Jesus already took the wrath for.
@@Kimberlyjae3679 I don’t think its that simple when somebody is found out and pressured to repent, its not like he initiated repentance. There is also a much bigger story around the three victims they falsely labeled as extortionists - this story might break soon. Careful to be too naive, I don’t see Paul holding back on those in authority caught in sin and those sins are recorded in scripture for every christian in history to read about - albeit some might’ve repented after
When Marcus Rogers broke the news that he had met Joni and interviewed her, I knew he was gonna be compromised. Thank you Julie for being professional. Thank you Jonathan & Suzy for being very transparent. May God clean His church
@@missvee1650 I was thinking the same about JR’s voice. She reminds me of the lady on K-Love radio named Delilah, who talked about adoption. She had such a smooth, sweet, calming voice!
Suzy’s testimony of how they picked you Ms. Julie brought tears to my eyes. Thank you for helping these two souls. My prayers are with you all. God bless you.
We don’t watch Daystar anymore. When we did if Doug was on we changed the channel. It’s not even about the divorce it’s just him. We have always felt he was creepy. Points for family vacations or honeymoons not good stewardship.
Me too. I used to watch Table Talk every day unless Doug was on there. He's just yuck. When I found out Joni married him, I completely stopped watching Daystar.
Not only is the relationship with Doug and Joni wrong biblically - he has violated professional standards by having a relationship with a former client - this is strictly verboten for psychologists/psychotherapists. The whole thing is a horrendous mess of sin and misconduct.
@@djwarrior3365that's the problem, we do not know if he continued being her counselor after the problem in 2016? Or even earlier. It is possible that he wasn't her counselor anymore.
Denise Boggs needs to remember that PRIOR TO Dr Doug, it was BOTH Marcus and Joni that shut down the investigation of their granddaughter’s abuse by the family member…Marcus failed as a parent and grandfather to protect that child.
And God allowed him to die. I truly do not mean that in a mean ha ha way! But God will not be mocked! Both parents are shameful. Praying for these 2. I can't imagine the pain 💔
Wonderful podcast! I so appreciate everything that was shared, thank you for all that your doing to expose abuse and bring much needed change to the body of Christ
I can't believe what a traitor Marcus is especially @37:32 where he asks Joni if it's illegal to secretly record someone and Joni says it is not illegal and he says that sucks. Really Marcus?
@sylvia4alvarez and he wears a suit and calls her Ma'am. He's clearly showing her that he's on her side. Jonathan and Suzy went to him to discuss really traumatic things first so it's such a violation of trust. I think he wants to fit in with the more mainstream Christian media and more popular Pastors and part of it may also have to do with the fact that he himself is divorced and remarried.
Suzy is SO OPEN and honest with her stance on the marriage that it’s absolutely beautiful to hear. Such a gentle and genuine spirit in both of them. She says her and Johnathan weren’t really good with the marriage, but she’s not going to tell another grown woman what to do. They just wanted their own personal boundaries and beliefs to be respected, the same way they were respecting Joni and Doug. Just think, none of this would be made public if Joni had not pushed them to “resign” by way of not signing an unbiblical NDA! What a shocking display of disrespect for your own son and his family!!! Joni is a disgusting liar, and everyone who has heard those recordings knows it!! A truly evil person!!!
People don't realize how a happy couple can be envy by others. I think the only one who really love them is Rebecca and probably Marcus did as well. In certain way, since he was abusive. But Joni and Rachel, they do envy their relationship. 100%. It is hard to think but very common.
@@laurenmay2098 🎯💯 Absolutely! Rachel & Joni are completely & obviously jealous of Suzy, her marriage & the way Jonathan honors, loves, & respects Suzy. It's the type of marriage every woman longs for!
I think a real Christian would have repented the next day, right after falling away But 7 years? A real Christian would have been miserable to be away from God.
It must be soooo difficult for tender hearted godly Jonathan to hear stuff about his mother that is true and he loves her still. What a difficult thing.
they are so courageous . if i didn't hear the tapes it would have been hard to believe. Joni is an actress and can fool people for only so long. thank you for sharing the truth . praying for the whole situation. blessings and love💚
Julie your reporting is so simply ,gently and honestly direct, and you are so respectful and thorough. I don't think I have ever witnessed a reporter with both such dedication to truthful reporting and with such heart. Thank you.
Thank you, Juli for pointing out the biblical truth regarding the “Jezebel” spirit… someone has to be willing to talk about the false teachings rampant among many on Daystar. My prayer is that all of us will get back to the word of God and examine our hearts.
Such a sad story. I hope that Jonathan and Suzy get justice for their daughter. As far as Daystar, I hope they shut it down. It platforms some of the worst false teachers out there and has done great harm to the body of Christ.
What is the most alarming point is this Pete guy didn’t just decide he would become a pedo and Jonathan’s daughter was his first victim. Mark it down there are more. May they find healing through Jesus love.
One thing: I keep hearing Marcus was a righteous and Godly man. But it seems he was anything but righteous. An adulterer, financially maybe using DS funds for his own benefit, claiming to be a church, shutting down the SA investigation. Why does everyone keep pointing out Marcus’ righteousness?
Why are people so critical and judgmental? If you have never sinned or made a mistake then keep throwing stones even at the dead! Marcus had long faced God for final judgement! Instead of talking about Marcus, look inwards to be sure that you’re in right standing with God.
@ we have to be critical of church leaders and each other. It is devastating to God’s flock when leaders aren’t held accountable for their actions. The Bible says no one is good, not one. But you will note that Paul, and all the early church leaders held leaders and the flock accountable for their actions. When you see something wrong say something. Simple. If Marcus were a righteous man he would not have allowed every sort of heretic on his platform; he would not have engaged in “legal” yet dubious investments for his ministry, he would not have shut down an investigation into child SA, he would not have committed adultery. If he wanted to be called a righteous man he would have given up Daystar and truly investigated his granddaughter’s SA, and lived a quiet and godly life behind the scenes. But he was unwilling to do the right thing. Being righteous means repenting of your sins and giving up the things that tempted you to sin in the first place. Namely: Fame, riches, lust of the flesh and living a quiet godly life. If he did those things you could call him a righteous man because he did the right thing.
regarding the credit card points, as Jonathan pointed out, if it is a business account, the points should go towards the activities of the business. In addition, if used for personal purposes, they should be declared as income on the tax filing documentation, but before it even gets to that, they should NOT be used for personal purposes in the first place.
God bless you all - thank you for telling the truth and exposing the darkness. God’s justice and redemption will prevail in Jesus’ Name 🙏🏽 much love Jonathan and Suzy - you deserve every blessing!
Amazing what you are doing. I wrote my uni dissertation on spiritual abuse...it's got to be confronted. Thank you for standing with Jonathan and Suzy. Praying for all, God will use them to set the captives free, they just need to set their face like flint on the Lord ❤❤
I recorded a horrible termination meeting because I knew I was going to be wrongfully terminated. Resulted in a six figure settlement. We have the right to protect ourselves from menacing behavior.
Absolutely
It's perfectly legal in Texas.
@@squishybear5728 agreed! But that’s not what happened here. A rebellious disgruntled employee who refused to do their job makes accusations against their employer. It’s complicated because it is a family and a ministry.
@@Neon806 it’s obvious you’ve not read/watched all the evidence or you’d never make yourself look so foolish with that ignorant comment.
@@dd4run I think you are referring to yourself. I have watched the videos and read the articles. I did not know anything about Daystar until this but I do know how business and authority work. Jonathan should have been fired from the word go. It is only because he is her son that he was tolerated. He is prideful and insubordinate.
Excellent work Julie Roys. I was a former newscaster and reporter. Your interviews and information are very professional and clear. I admire what you do. Keep fighting the good fight. I was raised in a spiritually abusive home and married a spiritually abusive man too. I know Jonathan and Suzy are telling the truth and I can see the lying spirit on Joni. I receive horrible "wise Christian" council that made things worse, challenged my faith, and nearly destroyed my life but God carried me through. Thank you Julie Roys.
I'm glad that you did NOT give up on Christ Jesus because of the spiritual abuse of broken people. Prayerfully, you learned a lot and now are able to clearly discern spiritual abuse, manipulation, deceit and other demonic activity. More importantly, I pray that you are using this discernment to war against Satan and his imps, as well as warring in intercession FOR the Body of Christ, the Church.
Thank you Julie for giving Jonathan and Suzie a safe space to air the abuse behind the scenes.
@@keledimazibuko1453 is this what you call safe. Telling The world! The world knows your business. Julie Roy’s is pandering to suzie as she is bigging her up. In fact they are both bigging each other up. They both need each other. No one had ever heard of Julie Roy’s until this came out.
@@tumbleweed116stop victimizing the victims. Joni, is that you?? Lol
@tumbleweed116 Julie is well known. She's doing the "cleanup" work that the corrupt church denominations she's exposing should be doing for themselves. But instead they are in compromise. Word says to judge yourselves, and to judge righteously, and to not be part of the corruption that's in the world through lust.
@ ha ha, they are not victims. That is only what they are claiming. And what they have portrayed to the world. I have learnt over the years to LOOK FOR 5HE FRUIT, (and theirs is rotten), and to question everything. Which I have done.
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What is very telling to me is how humble Jonathan looks straight into a camera and never even blinks. A sign of honesty & truth!
I would feel more secure about what he said if he did an interview by himself without his wife for a minute. He obviously agrees with her a lot. Not saying that they're not being truthful.
and on the flip side of that, has anyone noticed how many times Joni clears her throat when making statements. That's a sign of nervousness and dishonesty.
@@RufusCat I just commented on that to my son while watching this. Clears her throat and coughs. It is often a sign of psychological distress and conflict. In other words, lying.
@rosesteele2393 Johnathan is one of the most humble individuals I've ever known ever if I have never met him in person. May God blessed his family. I love them Dearly 💗
@@RufusCat yes!!! Also… watch how often her body language is incongruent with her words. Shaking head no while making affirmative statement. The body opposes the lie from the mouth. See her statement at Marcus’s memorial service @1:35:42. “Marcus was a wonderful husband.” If she is not lying, she must be very troubled to disagree with herself so frequently. 🤷🏻♀️
MARCUS ROGERS NEEDS TO PUBLICLY APOLOGIZE TO YOU BOTH. I was shocked when he caved! I will not listen to him again. So sorry for what you have been through.
I agree!!!!!
he probably would turn it around...useless.😮
👏👍
Why was anyone listening to him in the first place? A man who calls himself a pastor that's been married four times.
Pride won't allow him that man is too much of himself but good for him if he apologises
Julie Roys is a stellar journalist and an amazing godly woman!!
Thank God that Jonathan taped these meetings. I’ve been a Table Talk fan for years and without hearing this with my own ears I never would have believed it.
Same and I will never listen to anything on Daystar AGAIN
Me too. Who would’ve known. She was good hiding it. Praying 🙏
Same here
👍👍👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍
Same here. Joni and her yes-woman. 😡
You are NOT a low life blogger but a beautiful woman setting people free
Amen! Joni is just reflecting at this point
What astonishing arrogance!
I can't even believe she referred to her as a bottom feeder and a low level blogger!!!
@melissadavis2782She did say that. She thinks she is above everyone else. It's called pride and arrogance. These things God hates.
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I would be very proud raising a son like Jonathan. God fearing with integrity. ❤
No kidding!! Joni is blinded by her focus on herself and this ministry that she can’t appreciate the children God gave her. And to expect them to just give up their own convictions and go along with this unbiblical marriage to Dougie is ridiculous. They were wanting to protect their mother and she just accused them of “ Fear! “ and bolted out. Behaving like a spoiled rich brat. Great wealth does great damage to a lot of people and relationships I’ve noticed.
He’s lying as well. Both are wake up 2cor11:13-15
Amd who raised him ????... JONI !!
Keep milking it Roys !
@patiencenkrumah1528
And???
What has that to with with what has happened for the last four years?
Jonathan is finally learning that his parents were wrong to have indoctrinated into their children this stupid forced "submission doctrine.
To learn about spiritual matters is the only way to have a relationship with your Heavenly Dad.
Which has nothing to do with your upbringing.
Marcus Lamb lied.
Joni Lamb lied.
Fortunately, Jonathan has renewed his mind.
He will keep speaking out against cults, manipulation, control, and most importantly, against his mother's uncontrollably lying spirit.
God knows!
Thank you Julie Roys for helping Jonathon and Suzy. Thank you Jonathon and Suzy for continuing-to stand firm I know that this is helping others, helping them to gain courage to come forward with their situations.
One good thing that came out of all of this is Jonathan grew strength to stand up for what is right even though his mother was was against him.
Wow, Suzy hit the nail on the head in sharing why they chose you to share their story, Julie. She explained it so well! Suzy is an excellent speaker!
@@LastDaysWitness and an even more excellent liar.
@@dollywright9647 They have documents, videos, audio and support from a family counsellor to back up their assertions. What is your assertion based on?
@@rccyberwarrior2267look between all the lines.
I don't understand why people uphold Marcus Lamb as an icon of integrity when he had an affair with a staff member for 7 years. Then he and Joni both kept it a secret. They both have a history of lies and deceit. How is Doug's manipulation, narcissistic behavior and lack of integrity any different than Marcus's? And even Joni for deceiving hundreds of thousands. And Marcus and Joni lied about being extorted. Another huge lie that affected the lives of innocent people.
@@ahava3838 Agree. 👍 I have ZERO respect for Marcus Lamb or Joni for the way they’ve handled many things!
I think maybe because he's dead people don't want to speak badly of him.
Agreed
@@Marlaina That always happens doesn’t it? Someone can be a snake but at the funeral they only speak good of them. Hmmm.
@@charlottepratt3751Agreed! I can't help thinking of Jack Nickleson's 'Joker' face..when I see Marcus's static smile!..& the eyes! Sorry!
I cringe everytime I hear someone talk about Marcus's 'legacy'. It takes time to allow the smoke to clear..if you are in the vicinity of the fire..but I think we are only beginning to see the ACTUAL LEGACY..& I am so sorry for them!
Joni's husband died unexpectedly. Two months after his death, Doug, a close friend of the couple divorces his wife of 30 years and starts dating Joni. One year later they get married. At the very least this looks bad. The Bible says abstain from all appearence of evil. It's like watching a lifetime movie drama yet Joni continues to double down defending the indefensible.
It's as if she has no shame and no conscience.
It's a reprobate mind, Romans 1.
That’s my problem with this. Jonathan and Suzi admit to some mistakes. To hear Joni tell it, she’s done nothing wrong in any of this.
Dougie and Joni couldn't control their lusts!
Right! Might have been innocent and coincidence but the way the dated and married so quickly doesn't look good. Joni was widowed and in a vulnerable state; Doug moved in too quickly in my opinion. Seems suspect.
I find it so aukward that Joni married the father in- law of her daughter!
Before this situation with daystar I had never heard of Julie Roys, but this lady is very thorough with her interviews and I am so glad that Jonathan and Suzy have her to talk to. It is clear they are telling the truth and I stand with them. They are people of integrity and their spirit is pure. Praying for justice for their daughter and for her emotional healing and well being. Praying for you guys and thank you for standing bodly in spite of the circumstances and persecution. Jesus is with you.
If Lisa was so abusive as Doug says, how do they have a decent working relationship as Joni states?
We really need Lisa to talk. Cuz someone is LYING.
Well, we know that is another lie.
Exactly!!💯🎯
That’s how you know someone is lying
Liars are never consistent
It does not take a Bible degree to know right from wrong, Joni.
Hear, hear!
Exactly. I don't know who she thinks she is fooling.
AMEN!🙏🏽
I disagree. They did not cover it up. They went to a counsellor and took it as far as they could.
They did not want a world platform for this intimate matter.
I get it, this may feel.like betrayal but
It seems, legally at this time, there is no more to be done.
God does a much better job than us of exposing what needs to be exposed.
I am disappointed that you taped those meetings.
This will cause a great wound which will take a very long time to heal.
Please stop. Everyone in the world knows this happened to your daughter. How does this help her or you both?
If you were to hear my voice as I share, I am.sad about all of this. For everyone.
Please pursue healing with your family when and if you are able.
We can gain much insight when we try to put ourselves in one another's shoes.
Do you really believe Joni has been immoral? Or Doug?
Provision is made in the Bible for divorce. Jeremiah 3 talks about how God gave the children of Israel a Certificate of Divorce because of their sin.
In the New Testament, divorce is permitted for adultery.
What if all of our sins were posted on a projection screen?
There is still a place for you on Daystar, there's a place for everyone in your family, and it takes nothing from them or you when all of you use your talents for God.
My heart genuinely goes out to you.
This will destroy you, if you continue on this path.
I'm sad about this.
ALL.of you have so much to contribute.
Suzie, would you want words spoken in your most private moments taped and shared with the world?
Are you at peace with all of this?
And I am disappointed in all of the "Christians",
who have 'weighed' in on this. Their self righteous judgemental know it all attitude is alarming.
No wonder some people don't want to go to church
Jonathon your mother has what 15
or 20 years left? Life is short.
Fix this. Communicate privately your true feelings and put yourself in one another's shoes. Your parents did not abandon you. They tried.
They feel.betrayed as well
It does help to actually know the Bible. Understand scripture and many more things
Thank you Julie for standing by this beautiful, broken couple ❤ I pray God establishes them in their own ministry ❤
This is bigger than just getting their own ministry All is the ministry of Jesus Yes Johnathan has a ministry called Daystar Clearly the enemy has gotten Joni & she must step down But we the body need to stay in the word and recognize what is happening & follow what Paul has taught us & how to handle these situations Bless Johnathon & his wife for bringing in open Pray !!
Prayer for your daughter , the one that has been hurt the most! So glad she’s had wonderful strong parents like you both! We all know the truth! We are all behind you don’t even give the bad sayers the time , we have your back!!
Amen!
God is done with abuse in the churches
Daystar is not a church!
They are registered as a Church.
God is done with physical sickness in the church
Agree..God is cleaning house..🙌🏼💥🤜🤜🤜🤜
@@bethy8415 It’s all about the money! No federal financial
accountability for the billion dollar TV Network Business since she is registering it as a church!
It’s tough being a Truth-Teller! Stand strong guys!
I am so glad they taped the meetings.
There’s not one thing about Doug that reflects Jesus. It’s disturbing on many levels
You have to understand Doug is a jew, and they don't believe in Jesus.
I watched a video of a marriage counselor who said that it is possible that Lisa was rejecting Doug because she was feeling and seeing who he is inside. He is creepy, he looks and sounds creepy. It does not look like he was acting in purity. A woman will senses that. Lisa was no fool and she saw through him. Allegedly he is nasty. Then, allegedly Joni is as well. There is a hormone that as soon a neglected woman by her husband, started to be courted by another man, it will raises and the woman goes blind and can't wait to hear and see this man again. Any man can do it, and any woman can get the same reaction. Specially Joni who was 100% neglected in her marriage. I doubt that their reconciliation was for love. It was a business decision and Jonathan believed.
Agree. I watched some of his videos from the past and.... he is vulgar... that's the first thing that stood out to me. Yuck. I don't know how his ex-wife put up with this for so long...
doug douggie is NOT a Christian...
@@steladimi4785 I completely agree. He makes me want to urp 🤮
Very wise to record the meetings. Good legal advise was given .Jonathon and Suzy speak in a forth right steady manner. I like listening to them. They will come thru all of this well. Thank you Julie
Such a beautiful interview. So authentic! Thank you Julie for clearing the air on the mess Marcus Roger’s made of his interview with Joni!
Marcus didn't want to disappoint Paula White
Very pleased that the air has been cleared because Marcus did make a big mess but on the flip side God used his interview with Joni to further expose her lies hence the robbing of nose and coughs that she was constantly doing. However Jonathan and Suzy are more genuine and believable because no one will put their lives on the line just like that especially their private lives and family secrets for no reason if not that they have had enough!! We will continue to pray for them! Joni should step down!!Doug should leave Daystar and Joni and go away somewhere because they have cause a lot of damage to God,his church and this lovely couple and family(J&S) Jimmy Evans is already done!!Shame on all board members and the bullies!
Such an incredible situation, story. Appreciate the depth of investigation & reporting! And such a DEEP NEED for Prayer for Daystar to come clean, for leadership to REPENT, Seek Forgiveness, & for Reconciliation to occur, in Jesus’ Name….
@joycethomas3549 Joni frequently clearing her throat, preparing to lie.
Johnathan and Susie stop giving these interviews. God is not honored.
Jonathan saying, No, I am not recording is absolutely forgivable. Like he said, he had a split second decision to make! And he made the right decision!!
Amen! Jonathan made the right decision, which will save many, many children!!! GOD BLESS!!! 🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊
I would have recorded and hidden it too, as DayStar celebs were hiding their true selves.
It's BIBLICAL to trick your enemy. It's called a RUSE. The Israelites did that for battle.
Agreed. He never intended to share with us but shared the recordings with JONI to open her eyes to her own self deception & lying.
>Reconnaissance missions always involve going "under cover."
>If we are willing to dismiss Jonathan for saying he wasn't recording, we have to dismiss our veterans and all our global heroes who daily risk their lives to rescue the children who are being sex trafficked & many many many more heinous crimes against humanity.
No, that’s wrong. It wasn’t a split second decision. He said he got advice to tape the meetings!
Excellent video! I pray for Jonathan and Suzy and their family! God will provide for them. Daystar has treated them so poorly and it’s a shame! I’m so sorry they have to walk through this horrible trial! God will never leave you! God bless you Julie! ❤️
Finally, a time line that helps put events all together, thank you!
Yes that was great to lay out the time line like a lawyer.
The time line speaks volumes! I’m sure there’s so much more!
Julie, you have served Jonathan and Suzy with utmost respect and integrity. I'm happy to hear how they found you; truly a "Godwink" moment. Thank you for calling out Marcus Rogers for his falling prey to Joni's deception. They have been through so much emotional pain and turmoil. I thank God you are their voice for sharing the truth and holding Joni accountable for her actions. Your work has been of the highest caliber. If Joni cares ANYTHING about Daystar, she and Doug should remove themselves immediately. Tom Calendar needs to remove himself from the Board, no matter how long he and Marcus Lamb were friends. He's lost his objectivity and only cares about "protecting Daystar."
Jimmy Evans as well.
Marcus Rogers should never say a word again on any platform
Marcus Rogers should be ashamed of himself for that interview.
Not only that he should be ashamed for believing the lies of the manipulation of Joni he must not have a strong relationship with the Lord or he would witness what is the truth in his soul
If he doesn’t feel like a complete fool by now 🤓 if I was him I would wanna crawl into a hole and not put my face out there again for a very long time.
I think it’s kinda funny how he was sooo arrogant and then like right after he puts these videos out stating how he he has all the emails and text messages etc etc, Julie releases more and more things to make him look soo foolish.
His attack of Suzy lamb will return to his own bosom
He wanted his 15 minutes of fame. He didn't use wisdom but his own understanding. He didn't do his homework and was sucked in by Joni's manipulation and control!
Marcus Rogers met Joni before his interview. He was invited to a faith interview for Trump and she was there with 100's of pastors
How much of Joni is Doug manipulating her. But honestly Joni appears cold, harsh & controlling towards her kids.
Very cold indeed!
She allowed herself to be manipulated. He is a sex therapist so he knew exactly how o use sex to manipulate a vulnerable grieving widow.
Because when someone is self seeking, any interferrance(sp?) from others becomes annoying. They are ruining it for you. Just like a cheater acts with their spouse.
Joni is deceptive and out for herself.
@@mrk6753I doubt she was grieving the guy that had a mistress for 7 years that he wanted to marry. He was crazy about Janice Smith.
Excellent work Julie Roys! We love and support you Jonathan, Suzy and your daughter and are praying and working for justice for you. With love from London
44:04 Joni’s comments about Suzy and Jonathans relationship is so demeaning and demoralizing to her son. How dare she imply that Jonathan isn’t a man of character that he’d be so easily manipulated by controlling wife.
Further more I’m tired of people lying on God by saying “God revealed this to me”. Stop lying on God!
Because God doesn't speak this way. Even Jonathan and Suzy are doing the same. The quickening of the spirit. All from this gospel. It is charismatic to the stream. I do dream, but these people are saying they ask for a dream confirmation and the same night they dream about it. It is insane. John Paul Jackson was a big teacher on daystar of this. And he was telling Suzy she had the calling as this kind of thing. Dreams and visions teachings are dangerous, because we will dream stuff that has nothing to do with God.
Totally agree. And isn't this the real taking the Lord's name in vain, speaking from God when He has not spoken...
@@laurenmay2098remember theyve been indoctrinated in this from a very young age, for a number of yrs.😊😇
@@laurenmay2098are you indicating that God does not speak to us on a personal level?
The amount of videos on social media of people claiming they heard from God almost on a daily basis is staggering.
Anyone who has been through spiritual abuse can spot the gaslighting Joni is doing. I endured 25 years of it. Classical christian bully behavior. And their favorite word is submission of course. Who is Joni submitting to?? A lot of people are paying close attention to this story because it is important to establish a standard in our community. In addition, keep in mind, that this exposing of spiritual abuse is very wide spread and has been going on for a long time and when you try to confront it, it is a stronghold you are confronting not just for your life and your situation, but also for all those victims who have not had the boldness to expose the abuse they have been through. This is bigger than you. Stay strong. We are all praying for you and for Julie, too.
Since she hear from God directly, I guess she thinks she is beyond approach. It is unbelievable, but true. God never intended to be this way.
@@steladimi4785 AMEN!!! Exposing the enemy is the goal here.
Correction:" Classical UnChristian bully behavior." Nothing Christian about bullying.
@@surgedeb Yes, much better!
TY Julie Roys for covering this dark story. I pray God's strength upon you, J & S.
People can degrade Suzy all day long, but you don't know what it's like to be in the middle of it. To be scared to death. To walk on eggshells. To be scared to speak up. To not have a voice! Then add your child gets molested, your mother in law betrays you. God bless you Suzy. Stand strong my sister. God sees you, He loves you. Isaiah 40:31.
💯🎯
Amen!
Plus she was sa’d too on top of everything else! 😢
@WisdomKnows-zw5xs Amen wisdom! Wish l had said it...God Bless your kind and tender heart! SWEET SUZY NEEDS ALL THE LOVE AND PRAYERS WE CAN SEND...THE WHOLE FAMILY! THANKS WISDOM🕊🕊🕊
STRAIGHT UP! I came here to stand for my sister. ❤
Thank you for giving this couple airtime, Julie, and now you are going to be a high-level blogger, thanks to Joni..
She already is actually. Love Julie Roys
@@proudrosemomshe was being funny.
The sarcasm was fine and great, very funny😂
I question Me Joni Lamb's understanding of the difference between the definition of a blogger (and there are competent bloggers) and an investigative journalist? Me J Lamb expresses her ignorance with her uneducated comments. On the flip side if Me J Lamb does have knowledge of the difference between a blogger and an investigative journalist, it says volumes about her need for sanctification; as we all need.
Every time I hear Joni talking about Jonathan and Suzy she sounds like she is talking about rebellious teenagers. “I allowed Jonathan to drive Marcus’s car.”
That is not normal. They are adults.
Julie, I have been so impressed by your coverage of this saga. You have such professionalism along with genuine love and concern for the church. May you as well as Suzy and Jonathan be blessed with the joy and peace of Christ this Christmas ❤
While I feel badly for Lisa Weiss, she kept quiet the whole time Doug was counseling troubled married couples, and she and Doug were DIVORCED. They lied to their own staff at their counseling center and to the couples who trusted them. I hope Lisa speaks out soon.
This whole thing has been so "hush hush" which totally raises red flags. If they all had come out openly, it would have been better.
I hope all these fake businesses will close their doors. They have the nerve to use God as facade. This is unacceptable, including Lisa. She is just like them if she keeps quiet. I have no respect for people that doesn't hold the true of God above everything and everyone.
I would be speaking out if it was being said I was abusing my husband and I wasn't. NDA be damned. Where is her faith. She could end some of this simply by telling the truth.
Everyone in this scenario has lied, and I'm including Jonathan and Suzy also, imo. We all heard Jonathan repeatedly lie while recording.
@@janmckay6591🙌🏻
Two months after Joni and Doug “officially start dating” she puts down $37k for their honeymoon? Does anyone buy this? She’s a recent widow (only 11 months) and Doug’s been divorced for 5 months after a 30+ year marriage and they’re ready to marry? Nope. It stinks. I don’t believe it. This relationship started earlier than Aug 2022.
The math isn't mathing....
Doug had only been divorced for 3 months. The divorce was filed in January 2022. But it wasn’t finalized until May 2022. Him and Joni started talking in June 2022 (about a week later). But officially started dating in August 2022. It definitely isn’t adding up. I’m not “buying it”.
@@IAmHisBeloved5 I would not be surprised if Joni and Doug were talking on the DL before Marcus even died.
@@fnjesusfreakumhmmm….. sorry, I would want an autopsy done on Marcus if he was my father. Joni was WAY too emotionally invested WAY too soon!
Who buys property 4 months after your husband passes away? You needed to build a new home down the street from your current one? Hello, Doug❤
I am so thankful that you and others were there for them during these tough times! Thank you, Julie for your service to the Church!
Applauding you, Julie.
The letter from Denise confirms my discernment of what i thought of Doug. He's creepy.
Totally agree! Did not like Doug right from the get-go!
I think he has more skeletons in the closet.
Same
Exceedingly creepy!
The letter also confirmed Suzy’s dream from God that she previously shared of Him revealing Doug to her. 🐍
Rebecca you can go on your own you don’t need Daystar . God will provide all your needs , but STAND you MUST for his blessing .‼️‼️
Rebecca has the biggest purest heart for God on that entire network ~ year after year her love and excitement for GOD has ALWAYS been solid ❤
You are so right ~ off and when she takes the brave step of trust (which is scary. Life is expensive ~ and when all you have known is what pays your bills, that step is frightening. Especially having children to feed) BUT, it will happen. She will speak up and trust the God she knows with all her heart ~ knowing His word is true.
We all just need to keep praying for her ~ that any and all fear leave her heart ~ as well as the pull of not wanting to dishonor her mother ~ She will wake up one day and it will just click ~ ready to speak her truth ~ knowing that anyone that would try to stop her has an agenda that is self serving
We love you Rebecca!!!❤❤❤
Joni talked a lot about Jonathan and Suzy. However, she barely mentioned her granddaughter being molested. She spent a lot of time speaking up for the innocency of Pete.
Cold hearted
That's because she is persuaded Jonathan and Suzy fabricated the narrative, or at least blew things out of proportion.
The grand daughter was never molested, that’s why she didn’t talk in a fabricated thing
Because she wasn’t molested! There’s not a drop of proof. Just a paranoid mother
@stephens4132 wow.. you are very deceived. Praying your eyes are enlightened.
I feel SO bad that Johnathan and Suzi opened up to Marcus Roger’s all to get another 🔪 knife in their hearts😢I’m so sorry
Marcus is working for the Christian Illuminati team. His God is opportunity and $$$
@@GirlPilot7 Please pray for them. They have been in this system for long and seem naive about the real hustle in the real world that includes people like Marcus Rogers.
Julie, BEWARE of Daystar paid trolls!!! You are appreciated and loved! Bravo 👏🏼 💓
There is nothing "low level" about you Julie. God will say "Well done, good and faithful servant..." You're a voice for the hurting and you're doing a remarkable job 👏 ❤
I cannot believe how many people are out there who say that they're Christian but don't read the Bible! Doesn't the body of Christ have to respect Authority? Shame on J and S(Ahab and Jezebel!)
@@sylviacatt1071No. You've got it wrong.
@@sylviacatt1071is this Rachel?
@@marialancaster2029She has the spirit of Jezebel herself but pointing fingers to J and S shame on her
@@sylviacatt1071 get out of here. You dont read the bible and your obviously not listening to the story. Joni ain t authority to anyone and Susie and Johnathan dont have to submit to her
Joni needs to repent so badly! God bless Jonathon and Suzy for standing up for God in their life! My prayers, for you, Jonathon and Suzy, is that Our Holy Father covers you with His Holy Spirit and gives you peace about this ! God bless your children and give your daughter peace! God knows your hearts!! Blessings!
I feel such a deep compassion for Suzy and Johnathan. I have quickly grown to love these two beautiful children of God! Your characters speak volumes to the masses. I hope they can clearly see and hear the truth!❤ All the glory be to God!!!
Thank u Julie for hosting another very good interview & bringing the truth Agape. M
If Doug proposed on New Year's Eve, December 31st 2022, why did Joni in October 2022 put a $37,000 deposit on the Daystar credit card for her honeymoon if Doug had not even proposed yet?? Make it make sense.
October 2022 - $37,000 deposit for honeymoon
Dec 31, 2022 - Doug proposed
Someone, please, make it make sense. The math ain't mathing.
also, shouldn't dougie pay for the honeymoon ???
The lust us mathing and the math is lusting.
'Cause they're lying. They know good and well they were already engaged in October. That engagement in December was for show. So what other parts of the relationship timeline are they lying about 🤔
I'm sure they were seeing each other way before the dates given.
@@marylandgirl9246Who cares, love is hard to find, once you find it, enjoy it! Life is short. Let God be their judge. If Marcus was shown so much mercy after his shortcomings, why shouldn't Doug and Joni be shown the same grace! Let them be and stop scrutinizing every detail of their relationship. Joni deserves to be happy after enduring that sting of betrayal. Does anyone imagine how HARD it must been for her to forgive, stay in the marriage and keep family together, no one gives my her credit for that. The SA is a separate issue, it is solely the parents responsibility to seek justice for their daughter.
Wow,wow,wow!! Powerful! Thank you for your courage and truth! Blessings to you Julie and certainly to Jonathan and Suzy....
Excellent podcast. The visual timeline is very helpful.
The timeline is FIRE 🔥 💣. This makes it all very clear!!! Great work by an amazing reporter. Praise the Lord for those who are standing up for the biblical truth ❤
Thank you Julie for supporting these 2 beautiful people! I have been following their story and I stand with them and praying truth keep coming forward and God keeps lifting these 2 awesome people up! God has great plans for them and you too Julie! Blessings to you all!
Thank you Roy’s for calling it spiritual abuse
Wgo ever thought SA would take on additional meaning...#shewasfive
“But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner-not even to eat with such a person.” 1 Corinthians 5:11
Jonathan & Suzy “To do what is right and just is more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice.” Galatians 6:9 tells us to keep doing good, even when it's tough. This verse promises God's reward for those who don't quit.
Julie, Jonathan & Suzy: “But you, take courage! Do not let your hands be weak, for your work shall be rewarded.” 💚🙏🇮🇪
You’d think Suzy would have turned down a paycheck that she continued to get after she was terminated.
Very good scripture RIGHT ON ✅
Well what would U DO??
The words of Denise has come to fruition. Doug Weiss brought Daystar down. I told Joni this on Facebook and she blocked me. From South Africa 🇿🇦
Thanks Julie Roy's and all your work. Thank you for everything.
Why does Denise and others hold Marcus and his anointing in such high regard when He lied for 7 years about his affair?
That's right, the man was not godly. I never like him, he sounds and looks very fake.
He was truly repentant for his affair that’s why
And he said “Ive been falsely accused like this” in the beach house when he defended Pete - more skeletons??
He fully repented. He was fully restored to his Father. The Bible is very clear about what happens when you pull a redeemed person under their old sin that Jesus already took the wrath for.
@@Kimberlyjae3679 I don’t think its that simple when somebody is found out and pressured to repent, its not like he initiated repentance. There is also a much bigger story around the three victims they falsely labeled as extortionists - this story might break soon. Careful to be too naive, I don’t see Paul holding back on those in authority caught in sin and those sins are recorded in scripture for every christian in history to read about - albeit some might’ve repented after
When Marcus Rogers broke the news that he had met Joni and interviewed her, I knew he was gonna be compromised. Thank you Julie for being professional. Thank you Jonathan & Suzy for being very transparent. May God clean His church
Thank you, Julie. Your candor is refreshing and needed.
The timeline is very helpful. Suzie said such wonderful things about you Julie. I agree with her. Praying for all of you.
Yes! I had begun making my own cuz is so confusing. Excellent job!
God bless Jonathan and Susan🙏🙏🙏 This has been an emotional rollercoaster 🙏🙏🙏
Thank you Roy’s for clarifying the some of the statements.
Off topic - Julie Roys has a really great podcast voice.
Praying for Jonathan,
Suzy, their children and all involved.
And GREAT DELIVERY!!
@@missvee1650 I was thinking the same about JR’s voice. She reminds me of the lady on K-Love radio named Delilah, who talked about adoption. She had such a smooth, sweet, calming voice!
Yeah I love the sound of her voice ❤
Amen GO Julie 🙏
Suzy’s testimony of how they picked you Ms. Julie brought tears to my eyes. Thank you for helping these two souls. My prayers are with you all. God bless you.
We don’t watch Daystar anymore. When we did if Doug was on we changed the channel. It’s not even about the divorce it’s just him. We have always felt he was creepy. Points for family vacations or honeymoons not good stewardship.
@@lisaporter9365 he is SO creepy
Good discernment.
he's a shyster, scoundrel, and fraud. I feel sorry for all the lambs, they have been hoodwinked by a pro.
And where is Doug's contribution for this honeymoon? Oh, that's right; he's now completely supported by Joni and frenz.
Me too. I used to watch Table Talk every day unless Doug was on there. He's just yuck. When I found out Joni married him, I completely stopped watching Daystar.
Not only is the relationship with Doug and Joni wrong biblically - he has violated professional standards by having a relationship with a former client - this is strictly verboten for psychologists/psychotherapists.
The whole thing is a horrendous mess of sin and misconduct.
Then if it's verboten, which I know it is, Pull his license!!
At a bare minimum no personal relationship or socializing should occur until 24 months after the professional relationship has ceased.
doug just locked down his X account too, how convenient
@@KurtFisheroh, did he? Interesting!
@@djwarrior3365that's the problem, we do not know if he continued being her counselor after the problem in 2016? Or even earlier. It is possible that he wasn't her counselor anymore.
Julie...ive never seen or heard of you before..i truly admire how youve handled this interview. Thank you for calling it how it is.
Denise Boggs needs to remember that PRIOR TO Dr Doug, it was BOTH Marcus and Joni that shut down the investigation of their granddaughter’s abuse by the family member…Marcus failed as a parent and grandfather to protect that child.
And that’s just what you are aware of- in terms of their manipulation and deception.
the same Marcus that wanted Jonathon to succeed Joni...
And also they shut down the sexual abuse on Suzy by the chiropractor daystar hired
And God allowed him to die. I truly do not mean that in a mean ha ha way! But God will not be mocked! Both parents are shameful. Praying for these 2. I can't imagine the pain 💔
@@j-life8502yes look at the story of Gwen Shamblin…God is patient but He won’t be mocked.
It's out finally!!!!!!
One minute to Midnight here in England! I've been waiting for this, and will be staying up for it!
😅 I was waiting as well. I would keep coming back on here seeing if she had updated it yet.
Wonderful podcast! I so appreciate everything that was shared, thank you for all that your doing to expose abuse and bring much needed change to the body of Christ
I can't believe what a traitor Marcus is especially @37:32 where he asks Joni if it's illegal to secretly record someone and Joni says it is not illegal and he says that sucks. Really Marcus?
Marcus lack character and integrity. So sad.
It is perfectly legal in Texas, for just such scenarios.
Marcus changes with the wind. Really crazy
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@sylvia4alvarez and he wears a suit and calls her Ma'am. He's clearly showing her that he's on her side. Jonathan and Suzy went to him to discuss really traumatic things first so it's such a violation of trust. I think he wants to fit in with the more mainstream Christian media and more popular Pastors and part of it may also have to do with the fact that he himself is divorced and remarried.
Smartest thing Jonathan did was record those meetings.
@Music…. Wholeheartedly agree,
I can’t even imagine my son recording me!!! No matter how upset he was with me he would never do that
@@KailBB8🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@KailBB8he had to as evidence. The truth always comes out one way or another. Don’t be so sure of what your son would do in this very situation.
@@rebeccaoprea9917 Oh, I’m sure!!! Which tells me you’re not so sure what your son would do…sad!
Yes. There is a great difference between lying to slander and refusing to allow someone to bully you into giving up your rights.
Suzy is SO OPEN and honest with her stance on the marriage that it’s absolutely beautiful to hear. Such a gentle and genuine spirit in both of them. She says her and Johnathan weren’t really good with the marriage, but she’s not going to tell another grown woman what to do. They just wanted their own personal boundaries and beliefs to be respected, the same way they were respecting Joni and Doug. Just think, none of this would be made public if Joni had not pushed them to “resign” by way of not signing an unbiblical NDA! What a shocking display of disrespect for your own son and his family!!! Joni is a disgusting liar, and everyone who has heard those recordings knows it!! A truly evil person!!!
People don't realize how a happy couple can be envy by others. I think the only one who really love them is Rebecca and probably Marcus did as well. In certain way, since he was abusive. But Joni and Rachel, they do envy their relationship. 100%. It is hard to think but very common.
@@laurenmay2098 🎯💯 Absolutely! Rachel & Joni are completely & obviously jealous of Suzy, her marriage & the way Jonathan honors, loves, & respects Suzy. It's the type of marriage every woman longs for!
@HeartAliveToday yes, lovely to see Jonathan and Suzy.
I have NO respect for Marcus Lamb, a man who had an extra marital affair for 7 YEARS and perhaps longer if employees hadn’t made some noise!
... and covered up SA, and lied about ,'clearing' Pae-do Pete.
And then he and Joni lied on air about them on November 30, 2010. Marcus died November 30, 2021.
Right?
Look, this people, IMHO aren't even Christians. They are using God as product to make money. One day everyone will answer to God almighty.
I think a real Christian would have repented the next day, right after falling away
But 7 years?
A real Christian would have been miserable to be away from God.
Yes, I agree. Good that Jonathan has recorded that meeting.
It must be soooo difficult for tender hearted godly Jonathan to hear stuff about his mother that is true and he loves her still. What a difficult thing.
they are so courageous . if i didn't hear the tapes it would have been hard to believe. Joni is an actress and can fool people for only so long. thank you for sharing the truth . praying for the whole situation. blessings and love💚
I believe truly that grace be multiplied unto Jonathan..❤
Julie, thank you for doing this report.❤ Praying for all of you.❤
Julie your reporting is so simply ,gently and honestly direct, and you are so respectful and thorough. I don't think I have ever witnessed a reporter with both such dedication to truthful reporting and with such heart. Thank you.
Thank you, Juli for pointing out the biblical truth regarding the “Jezebel” spirit… someone has to be willing to talk about the false teachings rampant among many on Daystar. My prayer is that all of us will get back to the word of God and examine our hearts.
Such a sad story. I hope that Jonathan and Suzy get justice for their daughter. As far as Daystar, I hope they shut it down. It platforms some of the worst false teachers out there and has done great harm to the body of Christ.
What is the most alarming point is this Pete guy didn’t just decide he would become a pedo and Jonathan’s daughter was his first victim. Mark it down there are more. May they find healing through Jesus love.
@clifffoss6664 yes agree! There will be more.
Julie, Jonathan, and Suzie, thank you once again for your courage to stand for the truth. We will pray for your protection.
Thank Hod you were recording!
No one would have believed how they treated you.
Suzy and Johnathon you guys are amazing, don’t give up God has your back and will see this through
I'm so greatful that all this spiritual abuse is exposed! Helped me alot to believe and see it for what it is and to overcome
One thing: I keep hearing Marcus was a righteous and Godly man. But it seems he was anything but righteous. An adulterer, financially maybe using DS funds for his own benefit, claiming to be a church, shutting down the SA investigation. Why does everyone keep pointing out Marcus’ righteousness?
Believe me. He was sneaky as crap.
I never saw him as anything but a fake, Joni too. It is why I didn't watch DS, only caught occasional snipets which only served to confirm.
Why are people so critical and judgmental?
If you have never sinned or made a mistake then keep throwing stones even at the dead!
Marcus had long faced God for final judgement!
Instead of talking about Marcus, look inwards to be sure that you’re in right standing with God.
@ we have to be critical of church leaders and each other. It is devastating to God’s flock when leaders aren’t held accountable for their actions. The Bible says no one is good, not one. But you will note that Paul, and all the early church leaders held leaders and the flock accountable for their actions. When you see something wrong say something. Simple. If Marcus were a righteous man he would not have allowed every sort of heretic on his platform; he would not have engaged in “legal” yet dubious investments for his ministry, he would not have shut down an investigation into child SA, he would not have committed adultery. If he wanted to be called a righteous man he would have given up Daystar and truly investigated his granddaughter’s SA, and lived a quiet and godly life behind the scenes. But he was unwilling to do the right thing. Being righteous means repenting of your sins and giving up the things that tempted you to sin in the first place. Namely: Fame, riches, lust of the flesh and living a quiet godly life. If he did those things you could call him a righteous man because he did the right thing.
regarding the credit card points, as Jonathan pointed out, if it is a business account, the points should go towards the activities of the business. In addition, if used for personal purposes, they should be declared as income on the tax filing documentation, but before it even gets to that, they should NOT be used for personal purposes in the first place.
They are registered as a church a 5013c… they are not a church they are a business. Makes you wonder!
Julie:- Excuse me! What degree does your mother have?
Jonathan:- High School Diploma...😂
God bless you all - thank you for telling the truth and exposing the darkness. God’s justice and redemption will prevail in Jesus’ Name 🙏🏽 much love Jonathan and Suzy - you deserve every blessing!
Love Suzy’s comments on you, Julie! True and beautiful!!! Thank you, Julie!!!
Thank you Julie for standing in the gap for Jonathan,Suzy & Family! You are doing a wonderful service in your ministry 🙏❤️❤️❤️
JULIE: GOD BLESS YOU and PROTECT YOU and JONATHAN and SUZY and the little ones! In JESUS Name! WE ARE PRAYING . . . 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊
They may not have a Bible degree but they have the Holy Spirit. How prideful of Joni to say that.
@@chris-y6e3o Amen
@@plarkin6433 she did change it to 2022
I doubt Joni & Doug really have a prenup
The Holy Spirit is given with the evidence of speaking in tongues ( book of Acts)
Amazing what you are doing. I wrote my uni dissertation on spiritual abuse...it's got to be confronted. Thank you for standing with Jonathan and Suzy. Praying for all, God will use them to set the captives free, they just need to set their face like flint on the Lord ❤❤
I've experienced it and feel sorry that I have been silent while others suffer.
@@gritsgalraisedinthesouthit is not too late to speak out.
Thank you Julie. God bless you for all you are doing to help Jonathan, Suzy and the church. 💞
Thank you Julie Roys for your love for Jesus Christ and your ministry. God bless you and your family. ❤❤❤