Using Slater's Rules: 3 Examples

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  • Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
  • Sorry this one's so long. But Slater's rules aren't the easiest things in the world.
    Summary:
    For an "s" or "p" electron:
    Add up 0.35 for each electron in same group;
    plus 0.85 for each electron in the shell below
    plus 1.00 for each electron two or more shells lower
    Then subtract this sum from the atomic number to get Z(eff)
    For a "d" or "f" electron:
    Add up 0.35 for each electron in the same group
    plus 1.00 for every electron in any other lower group
    Then subtract this sum from the atomic number to get Z(eff)
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  • @samiai8905
    @samiai8905 4 года назад +57

    I love how you explained it in a clear and simple manner. Everyone over complicates it

  • @kuchibiruobake7303
    @kuchibiruobake7303 6 лет назад +16

    I learned more in 11 minutes here than I have in all my lectures so far. Thank you so much!!!

  • @patrickkota9730
    @patrickkota9730 8 лет назад +106

    Damn! You're good... You explained everything perfectly.

  • @ujjwalrawat5105
    @ujjwalrawat5105 7 лет назад +12

    Not understood when taught, not understood when read from book, but definitely know it now after watching this video! 6:47, who's awesome? You are! Great explanation.

  • @m.k.anandan1547
    @m.k.anandan1547 6 лет назад +6

    You are very much better than my chem teacher . No one can understand when he teaches except him. But when i saw this ,wow it was damn clear . Thanks alot🙏🙏

  • @lordvaidya
    @lordvaidya 11 лет назад +40

    Awesome Video...Didn't understand when I was taught..Neither did I get it when I read my book....:-o
    But perfectly understood when I watched this vid..:-D Thanks a ton!! ;-)

    • @Apoorvpandey
      @Apoorvpandey 6 лет назад

      Same here 😂😂

    • @ashokachakra7839
      @ashokachakra7839 5 лет назад +1

      Me too

    • @mastabeast1216
      @mastabeast1216 3 года назад

      I still don’t get it lol

    • @prashanthvaidya5220
      @prashanthvaidya5220 3 года назад +1

      @@mastabeast1216 It's been 6 years since I made this comment.
      Haha, now I don't even remember what Slater's rule was. :D

    • @arjunganesh4101
      @arjunganesh4101 2 года назад

      @@prashanthvaidya5220 so u must be working now right

  • @reinasharon5085
    @reinasharon5085 4 года назад +2

    wow!!! great explaination.
    love from INDIA...

  • @turksterone
    @turksterone 9 лет назад +4

    dude! you're the man!!!! I wish you were my professor! actually excited about what you teach THANKS!!!

  • @kayle7060
    @kayle7060 7 лет назад +15

    nice! .. i wonder why my professor is making this topic complicated. thanks for the explanation

  • @karanpreetkaur8693
    @karanpreetkaur8693 7 лет назад +5

    wow!!!! this man is too good. My teacher makes it very complicated. thanks a lottttt!!!

  • @subarashiiii6126
    @subarashiiii6126 Год назад +1

    omg there are just few hours near me before my exam u just saved my semester thank you

  • @bercembeyazgul702
    @bercembeyazgul702 4 года назад +1

    I am a chemistry teacher student. The best explained
    I've ever seen. Thank you so much :))

  • @SAMIAFARHANE
    @SAMIAFARHANE 4 года назад +4

    This video is well done; very organised presentation which simplifies the concept. Job well done!

  • @AmanYadav-oj6fe
    @AmanYadav-oj6fe 7 лет назад +1

    You have explained slaters rule very well. I did not understand when i was taught in my college but now my concept is clear.

  • @bios546
    @bios546 7 лет назад +2

    Thanks a LOOOOOT for your videos.
    They are fun to watch and easy to grasp!
    I thought about this concept for a while after watching the video and have come up with the below article...
    please check this:
    With regards to the first solution (as an example),
    the effective nuclear charge as seen from a 3d electron is 6.25e,
    Problem statement: To find what amount of charge on a 3d electron is seen by the nucleus after considering the fact that there is a large crowd of electrons in between...
    Solution: We can say that as the nucleus exerts a pulling electric force of ke(6.25e)/r^2 on an electron, where, k = 1/(4 * pi * epsilon) and r is the centre to centre separation distance,
    the electron must also exert the same magnitude of pulling force on the electron (Newton's third law and a concept from superposition principle - electrostatics)
    so, if Q be the effective electron charge of a 3d electron as seen from the nucleus, then,
    ke(6.25e)/r^2 = k(26e)Q/r^2 => Q = 6.25/26 * e = 0.24e (approx.)
    then the effective electron charge of a 3d electron as seen from the nucleus is 0.24e and not e.
    Is the above line of thinking true sir?

    • @mrmadmaxalot
      @mrmadmaxalot 2 года назад

      It looks like the article is applying the standard equation for an electric field to the effective charge. However, they are being sloppy with some of the terminology. Q, as they define it, is not properly called the effective electron charge. It is the effective charge of the nucleus acting on the electron. The equation they use would then give the electric force experienced by the electron relative to the nucleus (not the charge). However they give no citation for what value is used for r, which is very suspicious to me since this is the distance of the nucleus from the electron, and will vary based on the element and shell (and even then it would only be an average distance). So they do not even suceed in properly answerig the force experienced, which was not the original question of charge anyhow. Units are not at all taken care of here either. I would say this is a hack understanding of the concept and a hack understanding of how to use the math properly. This person failed their pchem class. haha

  • @robindt3773
    @robindt3773 5 лет назад +5

    Didn't hear a thing, but understand it perfectly after watching the explanation with your hands 😂

  • @krusher9939
    @krusher9939 7 лет назад +1

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    @valonajeti7539 8 лет назад +3

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    @girdhar3224 4 года назад +1

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      @chemistNATE  4 года назад

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  • @AnitaGupta-sz6tc
    @AnitaGupta-sz6tc 7 лет назад +2

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    @baraahmshagba3934 8 лет назад +15

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    • @Learner547
      @Learner547 4 года назад

      I have also made it easy

  • @lindokuhledlamini8208
    @lindokuhledlamini8208 5 лет назад

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  • @sohampendse8488
    @sohampendse8488 Год назад +1

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  • @kalpanauikey4835
    @kalpanauikey4835 5 лет назад +1

    Thnkuh so much... it really helps me a lot in clearing my doubts regarding Slater's rule..

  • @cooliD97
    @cooliD97 8 лет назад

    Out of all the videos on youtube trying to teach this, this was the most effective one yet. But im sure you hear that a lot.

  • @Erosjteime
    @Erosjteime 6 лет назад

    thank you so much, I couldn't find any French guy to explain this, you're my savior

  • @shmkrar1153
    @shmkrar1153 Год назад

    I was very confused and tried many resources to understand the slaters rule and i was about to give up hope. This video was AWESOME! Thanks a lot from India

  • @Mattoandhisguitar
    @Mattoandhisguitar 8 лет назад +1

    You just got me through a good chunk of my chem homework. Thanks a million!

  • @josephyang5036
    @josephyang5036 11 лет назад

    i'm a junior in college and i've been trying to understand this since freshman year in high school. i just figured out how to do Zeff in 11 mins...thanks a lot, appreciate it

  • @alhasaanbinsahar4684
    @alhasaanbinsahar4684 4 года назад

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    @mrigankpandey3813 9 лет назад +11

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    @bananaUUYU 10 лет назад +11

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  • @msconzert
    @msconzert 11 лет назад

    so much easier to understand. slater's rules are very dense and this definitely helps to clarify them.

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    @user-mz7sr8lw8p 6 месяцев назад

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    @shoubhikkoley3009 7 лет назад

    only video available on RUclips on this topic that makes sense. thanks great job.

  • @celiineho
    @celiineho 5 лет назад

    Thanks so much for posting this video! Went to lecture and this made zero sense, but when you explained it I got it right away!

  • @akilmuthanandd3088
    @akilmuthanandd3088 Год назад

    I love the Practical Explanation, you're really invested Sir! Hat's Off...

  • @barancel11
    @barancel11 4 года назад

    i have never seen a clear explanation like you have done in this video, before by anyone else.

  • @BilalDOUAS
    @BilalDOUAS 10 лет назад +2

    May I deduce that effective nuclear charge experienced by valence electrons determines the tendency of an atom to donate or attract electrons as it is for electronegativity?
    Outsider!

  • @sanashabbir7141
    @sanashabbir7141 7 лет назад

    very helpful lecture .... I have alot of fluctuations about this rule but when i watch this video my all problems were solved thank you so much.......

  • @gregshann7312
    @gregshann7312 6 лет назад

    You literally explained better than my chemistry dr. Thank u so much!!!
    I didn’t understand a thing at class!!!

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    @wenndyr8212 11 лет назад

    This is super helpful! I got so confused after reading the textbook, but the video is so great. I really like the different color markers.....

  • @bijoly
    @bijoly 10 лет назад

    I love you're videos and hand gestures. Thank you.

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    @abhishekrajput8320 8 лет назад

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    @ratedmaturegaming7588 7 лет назад

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  • @alanveiga452
    @alanveiga452 7 лет назад

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  • @thegdvibe7161
    @thegdvibe7161 7 лет назад

    I didn't understand it before...Now I do.Great method of explanation👌

  • @rdcasual7352
    @rdcasual7352 Год назад

    This video just clears it all thank you so much sir

  • @rakshitsrivastava2333
    @rakshitsrivastava2333 4 года назад

    I love the way you explained it's just very clear.

  • @poppyseed7639
    @poppyseed7639 Год назад

    Finally someone who explained how to apply the "n" values

  • @himanshurajput9212
    @himanshurajput9212 3 года назад

    Thanks a lot for this great explaination because in next lecture our teacher have to teach this rule and I understand it now in advance 😁😁😁

  • @santoshupadhayay9124
    @santoshupadhayay9124 6 лет назад

    That was so good. Seemed so easy!
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  • @forensicfanatic1
    @forensicfanatic1 11 лет назад

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  • @bakoericodinodino5327
    @bakoericodinodino5327 Год назад

    Thank you Sir!! I've actually understood slater's rule today God bless you .

  • @deepmalik1549
    @deepmalik1549 6 лет назад

    Really awesome you explained like a pro. I didn't get it when I was taught in class

  • @JInstruments
    @JInstruments 10 лет назад

    Thanks a lot ! It helped so much for a homework for inorganic chemistry in university... my teacher didnt explain this very well.

  • @chetanak6418
    @chetanak6418 4 года назад

    thank u sir !!!!! you explained concepts very clearly without complications

  • @sheenapatel5924
    @sheenapatel5924 9 лет назад

    Thank u soo much...this video has helped me to understand slater's rule better!

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    @susanahernandez3531 Год назад

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    @leechee5125 6 лет назад

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    @sahilchoubey3111 7 лет назад

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    @charnjeetsingh8870 Год назад

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  • @shivanisandhu2029
    @shivanisandhu2029 6 лет назад

    thank you very much sir.. actually I don't go to any tution. n tomorrow is my exam.. I wasn't understanding this concept by my book .. good explanation...

  • @marinelife31
    @marinelife31 9 лет назад +9

    Aren't we supposed to deduct 0.85 instead of 0.35 ??

    • @shivanisandhu2029
      @shivanisandhu2029 6 лет назад

      iamvarungupta the value of 0.35 is nd , nf ...... and 0.35 is use for ns np when last e- is filled in ns np. .... and 0.85 is use in n-1 shell if e- is filled in ns np

    • @shivanisandhu2029
      @shivanisandhu2029 6 лет назад

      😅😅 I think

    • @gunjanbisht5538
      @gunjanbisht5538 6 лет назад +1

      for d or f group...each electron in the same group contributes 0.35 for n shell .... for s or p ...each electron contributes in the same group 0.35 for n shell ...& contributes 0.85 for n-1 shell & any other lower group contributes
      1.00

  • @ecekanbur779
    @ecekanbur779 6 лет назад

    I'm taking the course for the second time, so thank you two times!

  • @SAAD63856
    @SAAD63856 11 лет назад

    thanks You're Actually Saved me I'm having test tomorrow I completly Understand

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    @richyangatzyangatz2819 5 лет назад

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    @geethachandrasekar3245 7 лет назад

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    @kartikyayadav2127 4 года назад

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  • @Kamalchemistry
    @Kamalchemistry 7 лет назад

    THANKS SIR...I have got a lots of benefits about Slater s rule..

  • @ShaydaNejad
    @ShaydaNejad 11 лет назад

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    Thank you for actually teaching me something about chemistry.

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    @hasithapriyadarshani818 10 лет назад

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    @harshchaudhry6471 3 года назад

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    Thank u brother

  • @bernhardkmakanga6317
    @bernhardkmakanga6317 5 лет назад

    Chai!Thank you, I really was lost in the lecture but now I get it.

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    @prateekchauhan6376 7 лет назад

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    @sarthakgupta9806 6 лет назад

    loved your video, it cleared all my doubts

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    @lalitadevi-gq2tm 6 лет назад

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    @shaniharabirin3989 6 лет назад

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    @sindhu-x9e 11 лет назад

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    @salsanabila4555 3 года назад

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  • @jstm
    @jstm 7 лет назад

    great video, thanks @chemNate!

  • @chemistrymadeeasy2455
    @chemistrymadeeasy2455 3 года назад

    wonderful explanation sir you just made it easy

  • @UBEDebasmitaChowdhury
    @UBEDebasmitaChowdhury 5 лет назад

    Thnks.. wsnt able to understand when i read tht in my book .. Understood it bttr now

  • @abidmorshed5980
    @abidmorshed5980 6 лет назад

    You're awesome man...The good thing for me is finally I've understood it perfectly but the bad thing is tomorrow is my exam :3 wish I had seen it before

  • @vijayamahadevii420
    @vijayamahadevii420 6 лет назад

    Thanks a lot sir... This s so easy to understand

  • @onojahjude3364
    @onojahjude3364 Год назад

    Job weldone.
    U simplified the concept.

  • @mohamedmohamud7923
    @mohamedmohamud7923 6 лет назад

    electrons in (n-1) contribute 0.85 of the tatal shield or screening.

  • @jefflinks6532
    @jefflinks6532 7 лет назад

    This was a great video. Perfect explanation. Thanks!

  • @frankanne1995
    @frankanne1995 9 лет назад

    Hey man, currently in office hours where the TA's don't even know Slater's rules. I know, crazy right? Well, here's my question: I am trying to figure out the Z effective for copper's 4s electron. I wrote the electron configuration as: 1s^2 2s^2 2p^6 3s^2 3p^6 3d^10 4s^1 (I went ahead and switched the 3d and 4s as you've instructed). My confusion stems from the 4s shell only having one electron. How can I take one less electron if there is only one? Is it 0 x .35? If this is the case then when I do the math I get 2.5. Mastering Chemistry is saying the answer is 3.7. Could you please clear this up for me? Thanks a lot!

  • @Reeseaya1
    @Reeseaya1 9 лет назад

    This was a very simple explanation!! thank you very much!!.... you are amazing

  • @SaebaRyo21
    @SaebaRyo21 9 лет назад

    Thanks a lot a lot for uploading such a useful video coz this video really helped me for understanding Slater's rule.

  • @khanyisarotyana1464
    @khanyisarotyana1464 9 лет назад

    U r the best,now Imma go get my A+,thank you

  • @idk-if9zo
    @idk-if9zo 3 года назад

    4:14 ...it will be 8×0.35 because it's the same shell (n=3) as a 3d electron...from (n-1) we will start multiplying 1.....correct me if I'm wrong

  • @Apoorvpandey
    @Apoorvpandey 6 лет назад

    Woaa man ... you rock !!!! Thanks for such an gr8 and clear explanation ...

  • @smoopers1994
    @smoopers1994 11 лет назад

    Your video really helped me understand this! Thank you!

  • @yashendrabadal4776
    @yashendrabadal4776 6 лет назад

    best teacher ever