Turnabout Sisters But Grossberg Takes The Case, PRT2
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Marvin Grossberg refused to take the case with Maya because Redd White was involved... but what if Grossberg was a little more selfless?
This video explores that possibility!
This is the second part of this mini series, here is the first part:
• Turnabout Sisters but ...
Most of the assets were obtained from court-records.net and and some popups were obtained from the Untitled Courtroom Discord server.
The program used to create this video was objection.lol.
Phoenix Wright Witness sprite was by me.
Marvin Grossberg as a Defense Attorney was made by the lovely Ceres!
Grossberg's voice lines were made by @Mr_Gamer-Random!
![Turnabout Sisters but Mia Fey Lives... [PART 1]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/hum7zfL3hXk/mqdefault.jpg)
02:18 It's Grossberg talking instead of Gumshoe
Rookie mistake ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@Raycherry348 Best comment
The prosecution has no objections to defense's claim.
Case closed.
The fact they FORGOT about Grossberg's existence after JFA aside from T&T cameo is just outrageous. Bro is imaged as an incompetent old coward despite having hella 40 years of career, bringing Godot and Mia to the profession (with teaching them everything he knew) and encountering almost every prosecutor at the time. In fact he could legally and easily solo almost everyone since he feels as the only sane person in AA universe, bro just got nerfed for plot twist sake.
Nice video, I swear Grossberg is hidden OP
The sole reason that AA7 isn’t because they’ve run out of ideas, they’re tring to stop Grossburg from taking control and flipping trials like pancakes in a breakfast bar.
But nothing can stop the scent of fresh lemon, and the train of reasoning from a 40 year professional.
I mean they patched him with hemorrhoids to nerf him a little. We also can assume he's playing pretend to not discourage the youth. Like imagine you're a footballer and Messi is just stealing your prime ! He's a gentleman, he knows when to retract.
I really like how the little traps that Edgeworth originally set for Phoenix - the updated autopsy, shutting down his 'badgering' of April May - Grossberg can easily evade. Unlike Phoenix, he knows what to expect from the prosecution and doesn't get lured into the traps so easily.
I love Miles, but it's nice to see him actually struggling for once.
April may is a catgirl in disguise
It does make sense. Remember that this is only Pheonix's second trial as a lawyer whereas Grossberg has decades worth of experience and is likely familiar with all of Edgeworth's tricks.
@@davisbowe8668 I mean I know that. It's just nice attention in storytelling is what I meant.
Grossberg shortcutting quite a bit of content here. It is cool what one can do when one knows where to aim rather than being left with no context like Phoenix was in the canon version.
Pretty cool to see these advanced systems humanity created after Moebius lost control of Origin!
@@Sherkel You may have gotten the wrong address. Xenoblade 3 is 2 streets to the right.
It just now makes sense as for why Redd White wanted to blackmail Marvin Grossberg: This dude is a train advancing at full speed, with all the traps against him actually breaking when he steps on it: The Updated Autopsy report? The gallery blaming him for badgering Miss May? It barely stops him.
Ah... an experienced lawyer... like the scent of fresh lemon!
Ngl this made respect grossberg more
If he was presented like this in canon games(like 3-1) and not used for hemorroids jokes everyone would respect him more
But oh well
I hope you can make more content with grossberg cause it was very well written
3-1 is supposed to be mia's case, through
Grossberg tearing appart Edgeworth's case like an old terrier ruffling a fox.
I didn’t expect Grossberg to be so confident, but Edgeworth not.
It's interesting to see such an experienced lawyer.
Agree! I love this what if because grossberg is actually professional and can handle it perfectly well
Welcome to Marvin Grossberg Ace Attorney
1-1, Phoenix is watching Netflix with mia at his own house, grossberg takes the case.
1-2, this video, also Phoenix pays grossberg.
1-3, will powers decided to call grossberg cus he's competent.
1-4, most defense attorneys refuse to tak edgeworth's case, except Martin grossberg.
Marvin Grossberg, inflamed attorney
Ace Attonery 2: Hemorrhoids For All
MG:AA3 Trials and Harlem shakes
Maggey Byrde: Investigations
22 minutes of Edgeworth getting absolutely bodied by ace attorney, Marvin Grossberg. Goddamn…
When Phoenix took the defending side of the court, he brought the bellboy as a last resort. But now, with a professional like Grossburg, Edgeworth is the one who falls back on him.
This is great so far. I'm excited to see if Phoenix shows up again later. Obviously he's not the protagonist here, but I think he would probably still watch the proceedings because Mia was his mentor, maybe even do a little investigating himself. Heck, maybe Phoenix saves Grossberg from getting attacked during the second investigation sequence, seeing as how Redd White is threatening Grossberg and all.
Lots of potential there, but even if Phoenix doesn't show up again, I'm looking forward to the rest of this mini series.
Phoenix doesnt know about Redd White tho
@@dylanzlol7293 He... doesn't in the original timeline either? He doesn't have to know about Redd White to get involved. If you're talking about specifically him saving Grossberg, I thought he would just like, coincidentally show up at the right moment, following his own investigative leads, like he did the original timeline. Or maybe he would be following Grossberg around for some reason.
Or maybe after Grossberg exposes White in court, which it looks like he's about to do, Phoenix WOULD know about Redd White, and go investigating there. Lots of options.
@@nickolasobjectionlolstuff2837 It would be fun if Pheonix acted as Grossberg's companion next investigation. Probably pretty easy to justify too.
When I first played Ace Attorney I actually thought I was going to play as Mr grossberg in the 2nd chapter
The judge too is really smart and not as passive as in canon
I think that the presence of an older man like grossberg makes him take his job even more seriously
@@dylanzlol7293 Besides Grossberg is already known in the court as an experienced lawyer (compared to Wright who only took one case at the time)
I like it tho
At least he's in fair side
The Judge was a bit smarter in the first game though. He kinda got flanderized afterwards, especially after he kept getting emasculated by Franziska.
I don’t know much about the Ace Attorney series, but I do love seeing this Grossberg person seemingly putting a stop to every bit of Edgeworth trying to ‘trap’ him into a corner. Making logical questions and making sure the witnesses lies are all made to have more detail for the case.
Can’t wait to see him put the final person into their place.
Wow I’m very honoured to have been able to introduce Ace Attorney to you. It’s a wonderful series so I’ll hope you check it out for yourself sometime! ^^
@@lilmarceyx3
Seeing characters get their shit rocked in court is always funny so it’s worth looking into for just that to me
@@lilmarceyx3I wanna play the games but can't.
Aww, marvin grossberg doesnt press in every statement?
Too smart for that
I imagine that Marvin Grossberg has also crossed paths with Von Karma several times to the point he is just as on-level as him too.
If Von Karma never lost then Grossberg isnt that good
To be fair, no one has beaten von Karma. Not even Senior Edgeworth managed to beat him, and apparently he was a very good attorney for his time.
This has turned out much better than I expected it to. Great job so far
I love this series so far i could imagine a
Marvin Grossberg Ace Attorney
Fan game and this as the final case this is like Marvin's Turnabout Goodbyes
Grossberg being the main defence attorney is such a fascinating premise! No Objections here.
My brother in Christ this second part was heat! I dropped everything to watch it and wow, did it deliver! I love that Mr.Grossberg saw Miles' plans of the updated autopsy coming, about how he knew it was Redd White, so he pursued the Bellboy with different questions...god, next part will be AMAZING TOO!
I love how Edgeworth is shaking, when he finds out that Grossberg is aware of updated autopsy report
4:27 "solid poof"
when a fart goes wrong
🤣
Lmao I just noticed it and searched the comments for this.
This this this THIS IS ART!
This was so good that even Donald Trump like it
I love how every song uses the normal 2001 music, except for the objection theme which uses the 2004 version
Great touch!
Yeahh, I thought the 2004 Objection music fit his character best, since he is a veteran attorney, and this theme is inherited by Phoenix once he becomes a veteran himself. I figured that maybe this theme originated with Grossberg, you know?
@lilmarceyx3 yeah, and it was mia's objection theme also, so I can definitely imagine it belonging to grossberg or even diego as well!
Grossberg in turnabout goodbyes would be really interesting, seeing as one of his friends gets murdered
This was a surprisingly entertaining watch. With part 1 I felt a bit bizarre watching this kind of what-if, since I like Phoenix and his interactions with the other characters even this early in the franchise, but here I was surprisingly hooked; the lawyer performance on display by Grossberg was genuinely amazing, you can tell this was an experienced professional, getting surprised only once in this entire first part of the trial and that was just a slight sidetracking.
I'll eagerly be looking forward to Part 3.
that was a smooth cross-examination, nice way of tying the wiretap directly to the culprit with the "retrieval conundrum"
that's a really well made series, I love Grossberg feeling more experienced in this, and the video is done so well that it feels like I am watching a playthrough of the actual games lol. good job, keep going!
Turnabout Hemorrhoids
Grossberg here feels like he's much more in control during the trial compared to Phoenix's more reactive style
I might have overdone it by just a smidge, but I tried to make sure that this was the case since Phoenix was naturally a lot less experienced and hotheaded since he was young. Grossberg is older and more experienced, so he'd know more about the prosecution and the traps they like to lay out for the defense.
18:39 EEEEEEE, PROFESSIONAL IS WORKING!!!
Honestly, Phoenix wright couldve asked that too if he was slightly smarter
You dont even know how hyped I was to see Grossberg speedrunning this case man 💀
I love how you included the trials and tribulations objection theme, makes the case more unique
Wow, Grossberg really is an amazing attorney. 2nd part was awesome as well.
This is very, very amazing. Being experienced really gives Edgeworth a taste of his own medicine.
Looking forward to the next part!
Very nicely done! I love that Mr. Grossberg wasted no time in picking apart the key points in testimony and stressed that April May was not the murderer, but co-conspirator.
It’s between this version and the anime version of Grossberg - both are confident and are willing to help in some way or another. Really can’t wait to see the next chapter of this! Incredible work!
I'm usually the lurker type but wow I had to go come here and say something about this, I've never seen such an AA video that captures the games well AND does a nice job of portraying an otherwise boring character. I'm very excited for part 3
4:27 the senileness of the judge slips through despite being more serious due to the presence of Grossberg
Also grossberg sounds a bit young.
I would like one day to have a case where we get to play as Grossberg
Brilliant idea. Surprised it took this long. Nailed the new characterization. Good choice with Objection 2004 as well; it was always Grossberg's theme to me.
4:26 Solid poof.
😭
:p
love this though, cant wait for part 3
I can't wait for chapter 3
Grossberg in this version look so cool! Can't wait to see final part!
So, with all of this in mind, it went from Red White trying to turn Phoenix in, to Grossberg single handedly taking out all of White's alibis in a single session and White wasn't even there yet! Glass lamp? Grossberg already knows the receipt! Framing Grossberg? He wasn't even involved until now! White staying in his room all night? Bellboy outed him out!
His best bet now is to convince everyone that he was on a night walk and make up a story that he enjoys looking outside at the night stars. When he was near the building, he heard a crashing noise! He panicked and ran straight back!
Only for Grossberg to say something like, "Coincidence? I think NOT!"
This made me realize how players who played that case are lowbrainers and fun fact i am one of them
I'd love to see Grossberg tackle more original trilogy cases. It's interesting seeing a more advanced lawyer be able to pressure Edgeworth like this. It would be interesting seeing how Grossberg would tackle Turnabout Goodbyes considering the teasing of Grossberg and Manfred plus Grossberg's low opinion of Edgeworth and the fact that Robert Hammond was someone from Grossberg's office. Makes me wonder if Grossberg would even take the case since he doesn't like Edgeworth and Edgeworth is being accused of murdering a good friend of Grossberg's.
It's cool to see Grossberg in action and demonstrating what skills he acquired while reaching his level of seniority
This is so cool and written so well! I can’t wait for the next part!
Amazing work on this video 👍
Grossberg is a real Ace Attorney. He should have been the one showing Phoenix the ropes during his youth so that Phoenix could actually be an Ace Attorney himself through skill and experience instead of just happening to stumble upon vital evidence and bumbling around. I mean, for Christ's sake, Phoenix didn't even know to flip the bloodied receipt until Mia literally had to rise from her grave.
Sure he didn't knew it but Phoenix, as Redd White mentioned earlier had no chance of winning the case before Mia inside Maya's body threatened to give the names of people Redd blackmailed to press (quite the same way Redd did to Mia's mother). The court was painfully biased. Phoenix had to fight Redd using Redd's own words against him. Phoenix -at least in my opinion- could have easily proved Redd White guilty if Redd didn't have the court with him (including the minister of Justice according to anime).
@@heshamhero6149 You know what, fair actually. With this being Grossberg and him going hail mary even risking his reputation, hopefully he can pull something similar to what Mia did out of his ass and bring down Redd White.
i love this series so much
Professional lawyer is what i want in AA game
Keep it up!!!!!! ❤
You made Grossberg a formidable attorney, good job. Can't wait for the next part
this was very well made
Nice job. I can tell a lot of work went into this.
This is so awesome!
Fantastic! Keep up the good work
Now this has me wondering what if Grossberg ended up replacing Kristoph as Zak Gramarye’s attorney instead of Phoenix
15:23
Did he forgot about Misty channeling Gregory?
Keep in mind that the public believes that Misty was a fraud. Only a few people know the truth at this point.
Awesome video, though i do have 2 tiny gripes that could have been solved with a line of dialogue.
First, Grossberg magically knowing about the updated autopsy report.
Secondly, the case of redd white being in May's room.
A line about him visiting the coroner would have solved the former, while investigating the table would have solved the latter.
Though again, I appreciate the video and will await ghe finale with great intrest.
Grossberg couldve checked if the autopsy report was updated or not before the trial
Double checking evidence is not particularly strange, especially when you have most likely seen a similar trick before.
@@dylanzlol7293 Yes, and that's my point. I already mentioned the possibility of a line mentioning that he checked with the coroner which could explain him knowing about the update.
In the video as it is, Grossberg srems to just know about the autopsy update with no basis at all, just guessing it randomly?
@@aarohalme1020 I personally took it as the same reason that Miles requested it in canon (1-5 suggests that, retcon or not, he never directly forged evidence), being that the existence of the receipt and the instant death seemed to contradict each other and it was worth a check, especially for evidence from a prosecutor known to be tricky.
@@somethingAccurate Hence even more reason to check with the Coroner in question to make sure, even if it happened off screen. This would lead to a more natural feeling to him obtaining the updated report.
He may know Edgeworth to be tricky, but there should be more buildup than just guessing the change in question.
Holy the quality of this video is through the roof, I loved all the little details even to the point of simulating the player input and penalty bar. This really does compete with some of the best Ace Attorney content creators such as Debastian Sebeste and others. Keep up the good work!
When will part 3 come?
I would love to give a concrete date, but I would be lying to you if I did... it should be coming sometime this month, at the very least.
@@lilmarceyx3 thanks for replying! These are very well written, gives me the same immersion I got back when I played ace attorney for the first time ever!
I LIKE THISSSSSSS btw new subscriber
I think it would be great if Grossberg appeared in court instead of Phoenix on the second day of the trial, when Phoenix was imprisoned, just on the day when Redd White will be a witness
It would be very goofy to see Phoenix in the role of an assistant like Maya, It would be brilliant
Can't wait for part 3
I have an Idea for you, how about after you're finished with this series you can make a what if scenario of Miles Edgeworth as a defense attorney and he's defending Phoenix Wright in that trial from trials and tribulations
OOOoooo... I really like this idea. I might come back to this. :P
1:28
*Miss Maya Fey
4:28
*Proof
9:45
*It is
This is fun. It's nice to see Edgeworth look like a fool for once.
When will part 3 come out?
Uhhh. Hopefully sometime this month. I can’t guarantee though.
@@lilmarceyx3 Cool. Good luck with it.
Part 3 when?
Meh, the pacing was pretty messy to be honest. Besides it's weird that there is a clear attempt to stay faithful to the game's presentation, yet Grossberg has been asking people to hold it more than actually objecting to progress testimonies
To be fair, the first one is actually just the original. Phoenix also just presses the point to make everyone throw out the first testimony.