It's an emotional blackmail. Lets help Ukraine to reform and develop like EU did in past with Central European candidates and still doing with West Balkan states and when or if Ukraine ever reach or is close to reaching the required standard for EU membership then let them and EU decide what kind of relationship is the best for them- who knows what Ukraine or EU will look like 20yrs in future but to allow Ukraine in as it is now or will be in foreseeable future would be slap in face of current candidates and would burden and paralyse EU structures to such extent UK Brexit troubles will look as appealing alternative to many current members.
Counties like Poland and Hungary (and with Turkey for NATO) have shown why its important for the EU to reform first before expanding towards Russia's neighbors. The Veto power is a problem. Because these countries may not fully aligne with EU values.
Fully agree. I'm not against expansion but making decisions is already hard enough as it is with 27 members. The vetos need to be abolished, otherwise nothing will ever get done.
It sounds like that there is resentment from those that took the steps to meet ‘the standard’ earlier to any adaptations in the approach to enlargement. You’ll need some new leaders who can look past this level of myopia and consider what are the real costs of not enlarging promptly to the remainder of the ‘continent’ from political stability and security standpoints. A large single market does not magically fill in all of the cracks (north-south, west-east, large-small, ..) that’s inherently baked into Europe. In the end, the inflexibility will just bring down the whole ship if you fail to account for the pressures that build up from the range of capabilities/needs of the member states (this phased approach to expansion could be generalized more to levels of membership for existing members for instance). EU is not a religion but sometimes sounds like the Medieval Catholic Church.
@@graveperil2169 I agree thats why it was a mistake for the UK to join in the first place. Though I do not understand why the UK tried to join the EU 3 times since france already knew that the UK was never intresstead in joining the EU this is why they blocked the UK.
@@graveperil2169 what I am missing in your answer and thank you, is it setup in a federal system of governance, like Canada's national government with the province's and territories with strick responsibility which is always being tested.
At the beginning of the EU, it seems the EU is becoming stronger and stronger but as its members grew bigger and bigger, the EU become weaker and weaker due to the fact that all the States don’t have the same economic and politics values. Economically,The West is more developed, theirs countries are prosperous with jobs and a good standard of living with all the commodities whereas the East is pretty much IN so they can get the opportunity to move to the west for jobs opportunities and/or to get the financial support by being a member. Politically, the East is still fresh from the communist mind set from the Soviet Union, so even though on paper they are Democratics sovereignties, they are not fully incorporated to be a real one which we can see that there are tensions between the West and East members. On top of that the EU governance policies are having loopholes to the point they can’t do anything about it if one member rebels. Hungary and Poland are the examples of being the spoils players which don’t mean they are bad, they just use the system in their favor and nothing wrong with it. With the Ukraine/Russia conflict, the EU really needs to find the right ingredients to patch up the wounds else conflict inside will arise. The Uk exited the Eu is very simple: The EU policies don’t fit the UK needs anymore.
Because they CAN leave whenever they WANT !!! There is an article special designed for such situations !! And since we are here maybe you will like to point out a union more democratic than EU .
There are no countries leaving, and no countries threatening to leave right now. One country left and the amount of comments I am sure you must have noticed.
Russia attacked ukraine in 2014 because they wanted to join the EU not NATO , and the problem is the EU is going towards political union thats why the british left if it had kept as a free market with free movement it would be more possible to take in more people . you have very big differences on things like immigration. And when I look at europe your helping refugees but not a single european state sent troops to help ukraine , and europe has sent less arms than the USA
@@eveleung8855 , I think you must be thinking of the British Empire and the UK perhaps falling too. While we in Europe will want to cooperate in the future too.
In 2012: Is the European Union that we have today not a great achievement and an inspiration for other regions in the world, despite all its flaws? The late Singapore Prime Minister Mr Lee Kuan Yew said.: ## No, I do not view the European Union as an inspiration for the world. I view it as an enterprise that was conceived wrongly because it was expanded too fast and it will probably fail. ##
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japan. japan is the limit
It's an emotional blackmail. Lets help Ukraine to reform and develop like EU did in past with Central European candidates and still doing with West Balkan states and when or if Ukraine ever reach or is close to reaching the required standard for EU membership then let them and EU decide what kind of relationship is the best for them- who knows what Ukraine or EU will look like 20yrs in future but to allow Ukraine in as it is now or will be in foreseeable future would be slap in face of current candidates and would burden and paralyse EU structures to such extent UK Brexit troubles will look as appealing alternative to many current members.
Counties like Poland and Hungary (and with Turkey for NATO) have shown why its important for the EU to reform first before expanding towards Russia's neighbors.
The Veto power is a problem.
Because these countries may not fully aligne with EU values.
Fully agree. I'm not against expansion but making decisions is already hard enough as it is with 27 members. The vetos need to be abolished, otherwise nothing will ever get done.
What are those values?
@@Blackdragon1331 , if you have to ask, I guess you won't understand the answer.
@@hurri7720 Why you dont enlighten me what those are, because the construction of that project involves alot of dishonesty.
@@Blackdragon1331 , like?
It definitely needs to happen in a timely manner.
It sounds like that there is resentment from those that took the steps to meet ‘the standard’ earlier to any adaptations in the approach to enlargement. You’ll need some new leaders who can look past this level of myopia and consider what are the real costs of not enlarging promptly to the remainder of the ‘continent’ from political stability and security standpoints. A large single market does not magically fill in all of the cracks (north-south, west-east, large-small, ..) that’s inherently baked into Europe. In the end, the inflexibility will just bring down the whole ship if you fail to account for the pressures that build up from the range of capabilities/needs of the member states (this phased approach to expansion could be generalized more to levels of membership for existing members for instance). EU is not a religion but sometimes sounds like the Medieval Catholic Church.
Brexit is the best thing that happened to the EU.
also for the UK we are not interested in a federal Europe
@@graveperil2169 I agree thats why it was a mistake for the UK to join in the first place. Though I do not understand why the UK tried to join the EU 3 times since france already knew that the UK was never intresstead in joining the EU this is why they blocked the UK.
@@BS-vm5bt we wanted to join a trade group not a federal state
@Identitätslinker it would be silly for the EU to allow the UK in we do not have the same goals
@@graveperil2169 win-win :)
the lady is right ...
What is the European union? Is it now a collection of independent states or is it a collection of simi independent states in a federal country?
with each country having a veto the former if they lose the veto and rules can be imposed that a state disagrees with the latter,
It's an foreign empire.
@@graveperil2169 what I am missing in your answer and thank you, is it setup in a federal system of governance, like Canada's national government with the province's and territories with strick responsibility which is always being tested.
@@grahambrown2794 No, it isn't a federal system. Some europeans would like to be more "federal" like USA... Some want to even exit the EU, though.
@@960john thank you, I think I have a better understanding with your answer but what kind of political system is it.
At the beginning of the EU, it seems the EU is becoming stronger and stronger but as its members grew bigger and bigger, the EU become weaker and weaker due to the fact that all the States don’t have the same economic and politics values.
Economically,The West is more developed, theirs countries are prosperous with jobs and a good standard of living with all the commodities whereas the East is pretty much IN so they can get the opportunity to move to the west for jobs opportunities and/or to get the financial support by being a member.
Politically, the East is still fresh from the communist mind set from the Soviet Union, so even though on paper they are Democratics sovereignties, they are not fully incorporated to be a real one which we can see that there are tensions between the West and East members.
On top of that the EU governance policies are having loopholes to the point they can’t do anything about it if one member rebels.
Hungary and Poland are the examples of being the spoils players which don’t mean they are bad, they just use the system in their favor and nothing wrong with it.
With the Ukraine/Russia conflict, the EU really needs to find the right ingredients to patch up the wounds else conflict inside will arise.
The Uk exited the Eu is very simple: The EU policies don’t fit the UK needs anymore.
LMAO!!! ASEAN prove you wrong about the silly same EU value 😂😂😂😂😂😂
She must be in her own dreamland little bubble world. She don't live in the real world. No ??.
The problem is no one is commenting on the countries leaving /threatening to leave!!!!!!
Because they CAN leave whenever they WANT !!! There is an article special designed for such situations !!
And since we are here maybe you will like to point out a union more democratic than EU .
There are no countries leaving, and no countries threatening to leave right now.
One country left and the amount of comments I am sure you must have noticed.
@@hurri7720 will b watching!!!!
@@muskrilcardo9372 , me too.
It's time for the EU to open talks with Taiwan on joining the EU and its armed wing, Nato.
“Western balkan” is the new name for yugoslavia
No voting rights until they are members. Observers might work.
That is clear, and nobody has suggested that for observers.
KYIV not kief/kiev🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
EU barks how USA tell it to Bark like good puppy
EU is a democratic union where countries can freely join or leave , your comment is pathetic !!!
@@astralxing988 sure it is
What is your problem, the EU/USA sanctions perhaps.
@@hurri7720 or maybe USA selling high Price oil gas after sanctions wink
Russia attacked ukraine in 2014 because they wanted to join the EU not NATO , and the problem is the EU is going towards political union thats why the british left if it had kept as a free market with free movement it would be more possible to take in more people . you have very big differences on things like immigration. And when I look at europe your helping refugees but not a single european state sent troops to help ukraine , and europe has sent less arms than the USA
Regrouping the entirely European countries without Russian federation is dead on arrival. Regroup to fall.
EU and NATO must grow.
We live in very uncertain times.
NATO is already the most powerful group it has no need to grow
Talking like an Roman emperor
Will fall like a Roman Empire
@@eveleung8855 It has nothing to do with any "empire " , countries are freely joining EU and they can leave whenever they want , fact !!!
@@eveleung8855 , I think you must be thinking of the British Empire and the UK perhaps falling too. While we in Europe will want to cooperate in the future too.
Zelensky and Ukraine don't need the E U
Maybe an Armageddon hydrogen nuclear bomb from Russia.
Lebanon must join the European Union 🇱🇧🇪🇺
Lebanon is in the middle east, not Europe. Lebanon is rightly part of the Arab League.
@@billocoy9811 Lool are you drunk? Lebanon is in Europe and not the middle east, and must rightly join the European Union 🇱🇧🇪🇺
@@furn6341 Shu le habibi, sounds like you've had something special in your sisha.
In 2012: Is the European Union that we have today not a great achievement and an inspiration for other regions in the world, despite all its flaws?
The late Singapore Prime Minister Mr Lee Kuan Yew said.: ## No, I do not view the European Union as an inspiration for the world. I view it as an enterprise that was conceived wrongly because it was expanded too fast and it will probably fail. ##
Look how wrong he was, why mention him at all.
Singapour is an authoritative state. Naturally will he put the EU under a bad light so that he implicitly knows better.
Small won't exist in the future
Who caresss
😇👑🌏🌍🌎💚@undwallace 👍