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  • Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
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  • @houghwhite411
    @houghwhite411 2 года назад +13

    Years later and you still helping people with the video, thank you for showing us how it's done

  • @billclockwell
    @billclockwell 6 месяцев назад +3

    This man has an uncanny ability to handle his own fingers like they are foreign objects

  • @bionerd100
    @bionerd100 9 лет назад +65

    I did this to my flagship pen and it's now as drier than my ex's sense of humour, and that's finally what I want.

  • @thorbjornkarlsson4681
    @thorbjornkarlsson4681 4 года назад +5

    That fixed my Parker wictory Mk3 its perfect now. Thank you

  • @donna30044
    @donna30044 7 лет назад +19

    It is a highly unusual and vastly underrated talent to be able to speak so clearly with one's tongue so firmly in one's cheek.
    Love this channel!

    • @sbrebrown
      @sbrebrown  7 лет назад +4

      Ankle Donna Thank you :-)

  • @nope8535
    @nope8535 11 месяцев назад +1

    I actually needed this to play with a nib that went from dry to almost gushing after I overdid an adjustment.

  • @SpartanDara
    @SpartanDara 7 лет назад +2

    Fantastic video. Had a Pilot VP (tiny nib!) with this issue and I used some latex gloves to both protect my hands and as a "buffer" and these steps worked like a charm. Thanks!

  • @doctormadhav1
    @doctormadhav1 11 лет назад +2

    its amazing the way you respond to small requests. you really value your viewers and fans. thanks a lot .

  • @matchesder
    @matchesder Год назад

    Thanks for the inspiration. I was really hesitant to fiddle with nibs.
    When you want to change the tine alignment, the time you push should not matter but how far you push.
    For reference have a look at the stress-strain curve.
    There is a elastic region where deformation is elastic up to a point (yield strength) where further deformation becomes plastic. There is no time dependence but the elastic part still comes back.

  • @helderlucianicasagrande7303
    @helderlucianicasagrande7303 10 лет назад +1

    you are my hero! I walked around in pen stores in São Paulo all day and everyone said to me that it wasnt possible to solve this problem, and then I found your vídeo! Thanks a lot.

  • @Mmelbow2
    @Mmelbow2 9 лет назад +1

    Thank you for taking the time to post this video. You provide good information in and entertaining way. I appreciate your help.

    • @sbrebrown
      @sbrebrown  9 лет назад

      I'm glad this was useful!

  • @leod5609
    @leod5609 2 года назад

    @sbrebrown thank you so so much. My wife bought me a Lamy 2000 ef for fathers day gift, but it was too wet. You have saved it! Much love from Australia!

  • @Shanghai_Knife_Dude
    @Shanghai_Knife_Dude 4 месяца назад

    I tried on my MB 149 and it works. I will try it again on MB Hemingway Writer Edition this weekend. My skill only works for pens above $1000.

  • @maryriley6163
    @maryriley6163 4 года назад +1

    9/24/19 Thanks so much for posting your suggestions on nib adjustment. I bought a 1.1 stub for my old Jinhao X450
    The stub almost ran with ink. On close inspection I saw that the slit in the stub was a straight line from the breather hole to the tip. I used the technique you suggested for reducing ink flow and it worked so well that I needed to use the slip of brass to open it up a little. The nib works quite well now.

  • @RobertMaguire67
    @RobertMaguire67 6 лет назад

    Enjoying watching some old videos on holidays while sipping a cup of coffee. Thx.

  • @ReaderViaNil
    @ReaderViaNil 9 лет назад

    My Lamy fell tip first, opening like a banana, and in a panic i bended the nib back in place with a notebook, but it has been pouring out too much ink every time. Thanks to this video I was able to bring it more to how it was before :) many thanks

  • @poisonsnake9965
    @poisonsnake9965 7 лет назад +2

    Stephen,thank you very much for super procedure you showed. Nice and easy and informative. Simplicity makes geniality !!

    • @sbrebrown
      @sbrebrown  7 лет назад

      Vaa PILOT I'm glad this was useful to you!

  • @Fyre_Rose
    @Fyre_Rose 5 лет назад +2

    Did this with my jinhao x750 and worked a charm :D thanks my favourite pen is working much better and smoother now! (yes its a jinhao but i love it :P)

  • @MrKeoto
    @MrKeoto 8 лет назад +3

    Just got a Sailor King Of Pens with a medium nib. Was very wet and I was disappointed. So I said what would Stephen Brown do? Watched this on You Tube and gave it a shot; worked like magic. Now it writes like a fine and does not feather even on cheap paper. Thank you very much!!

    • @sbrebrown
      @sbrebrown  8 лет назад

      I'm glad this was helpful!

  • @vaiovgnnr32s
    @vaiovgnnr32s Год назад

    Muchas gracias, llevaba unas cuantas noches dejando los gavilanes presionados para acercarlos sin obtener resultados y gracias a tu consejo lo logré, estoy super contento. Saludos codiáles.
    Thank you very much, I had been leaving the nib under pressure for a few nights to bring them closer without obtaining results and thanks to your advice I did it, I am super happy. Best regards.

  • @krunalthehell
    @krunalthehell 11 лет назад

    I am hopeful. As of now I manage by pushing the nib upside down on paper and bend it slightly, that seems to help. But your method is more sophisticated and I liked it.

  • @oxidize3
    @oxidize3 8 лет назад

    Just tried these instructions on my overly wet Vac 700. Worked like a charm. Thanks @sbrebrown.

  • @littlestagpens8050
    @littlestagpens8050 2 года назад

    Another thought - re my comment below - what about heat setting the nib? It's ebonite and I had set it before i realized the dryness but when I got the tines opened up, I might have "unset" the nib? (FYI - I'm not using "tools" other than my fingers, gently.)

  • @retro51fan
    @retro51fan 11 лет назад +1

    Thanks for doing this video, Stephen. It's very helpful and actually enjoyable to be able to tune one's own nib (after some practice on cheaper nibs, of course). Bravo!

  • @MicheleLHarvey
    @MicheleLHarvey 10 лет назад +1

    Wondering if a band-aide bandage or medical tape on thumb and forefinger would be more exacting to use, (to protect finger tips) rather than the rug pad. That way you could still see what you're doing while working. It would have to have a bit of tooth, so wasn't slippery.
    Just a thought...

    • @sbrebrown
      @sbrebrown  10 лет назад

      True, not a bad idea!

  • @MarkPMus
    @MarkPMus 7 лет назад

    Thanks for directing me to this playlist, and I've tried the thumbnails technique on one of my Lamy Safaris to good effect, to get it to write a bit wetter. I've got a few pen questions for you, which maybe you could answer in a Q & A video. You'll excuse me if some are a bit naive, I am a bit of a pen newbie, and also a little off topic:
    1. Do you think people knacker their nibs by trying to flex nibs for line variation, when the nibs were not made for that purpose. What's the difference between flexing a nib, and using an oblique, which is designed for line variation?
    2. Why do "serious" pen people forego use of the ink cartridge in favour of bottle inks. I get that inks come in a wider variety of colours, but is there any kind of technical disadvantage to using cartridges?
    3. Are you interested in graphology, i.e. the science of interpreting a someone's personality from their handwriting? If so, could you make some videos about it. From your writing I can tell that you are careful with other people's secrets, and as such people feel they can trust you with their problems and inner goings on!

  • @Tome4kkkk
    @Tome4kkkk 5 лет назад

    I - cannot - imagine - a better put - video! Thank you very much!

  • @lpanades
    @lpanades 11 лет назад

    If the feeder is a bit away of the nib the pen stays more wet if it is closer more dryer.
    deIt's normaly more common to make a pen wetter but it works in both ways.
    Nice video again, ever. Nice blue collor.

  • @muskndusk
    @muskndusk 3 года назад

    Jinhaos are good for this because it's so easy to remove the nib. I've just done this to one of my Jinhao 51a's. I bought a separate stub nib for it but when I fitted this, it was too dry. Unfortunately, I then made it too wet by widening the ink channel, so went to your vids for a way to make it drier again.
    It worked, but the nib lost the nice 'glide' sensation it had when too wet. At least now I don't have bleedthrough.
    I even dug out Da Book from my stack! Must read it sometime.
    Thanks for all the vids.

  • @miker5502
    @miker5502 3 года назад

    Well done! Thanks for the video…clearly shows how to correct the splayed tines. Cheers from Nova Scotia.

  • @Moleskineman
    @Moleskineman 11 лет назад

    Commented on your other video - just did this on my Noodler's Konrad and it's writing much better now. Less blotchy and doesn't dry out as quickly (still dries quicker than my other pens, but it's much less frustrating now), plus there seems to be a lot less nib creep. I'm a teacher and need a drier pen to mark homework quickly, so thanks for helping out with this video!

  • @WallImages
    @WallImages 5 лет назад

    Used this technique on a very wet Lamy 2000 Fine. Worked a charm. Thank you!

  • @krunalthehell
    @krunalthehell 11 лет назад +2

    Doc, you have made my life easier. Here in my profession we have to draw many engineering part drawings on paper as a free hand sketch before we actually start drawing them on computer. On times like this, precision and a fine nib are important. No matter how much I love my super wet pens, I am forced to use a fine and dry fountain pen. A wet pen is too prone to feathering on our normal 70 GSM copier paper. Your video will make lifes of people like me easier. Thank you doc.

  • @mrbluenun
    @mrbluenun 8 лет назад +1

    Hi,
    And thank you for, without doubt, the most useful informative details on nibs of most cheap pens. Thank you so much.

  • @JCo-dl6vl
    @JCo-dl6vl 3 года назад

    Out~ in~
    Out~ in~
    I'm getting the hang of this

  • @Fast58Eddie
    @Fast58Eddie 11 лет назад

    Stephen,
    Loved this video, it was real useful advice. I made my Jinhao 159 much dryer. I like a wet pen but it was so wet that I could not use it. I followed your technique and the pen is now writing the way I like it.
    Thank you,
    Eddie

  • @littlestagpens8050
    @littlestagpens8050 2 года назад

    Hi Stephen - I did the same thing with my Parker Duofold Jr. - was too dry, went a bit too far and now it's too wet. Slightly. I notice the tines are more equal distance apart from breathing hole to end - it's not slightly closed at the end, or a bit triangular from breathing hole to end. My question, in this case, i don't want the tines near the breathing hole any closed together, just the ends of the tines. Will the method you describe here be, in your opinion, still the method to resolve the extra wetness? I should also add I am not a fan of a broad line and the pen is not false starting or stopping writing so my other thought is that it's not that it's writing too wet, it's that I don't appreciate the broader line. Thoughts on this? Thank you!!

  • @bob963me
    @bob963me 11 лет назад

    Wonderful video, very helpful for the few, we happy few, who enjoy our pens dryer than most. I salute the extra strength of will it to for you to do something so against your preferences as to make a pen dryer.

  • @GenWivern2
    @GenWivern2 11 лет назад

    Very good Stephen, thank you. I suppose that might come in handy one day, but wet writing pens are more my thing. It's worth keeping a dryish one for filling in crosswords on newsprint though, one of the few occasions when an old flexy Waterman really isn't the ideal writing instrument ...

  • @zerochaos360
    @zerochaos360 3 года назад

    I think my tines are fine. The issue, I think, is that my feed JH x450 allows too much flow. I'm thinking about a bit of tape around the exposed part of the feed but do not know if this is a fix at all. Any ideas are appreciated.

  • @ElizaHamilton1780
    @ElizaHamilton1780 11 лет назад

    Mine too...which is why I have named one pen "Lady Macbeth"--it is my tribute to my fountain pen experience. More often than not, when I wipe the ink off my fingers at work, I'll be thinking to myself: "Out, damn spot, out, I say!" Makes me smile. :)

  • @ssnoc
    @ssnoc 4 года назад

    Here is my question ... what is the best stuff to use to get the ink off my fingers? Someone needs to invent a instant ink neutralizer, but in the mean time ... ??

  • @drmrinalkantinath4336
    @drmrinalkantinath4336 6 лет назад

    I just purchased a fountain pen which has a exactly opposite problem. It has ink flow problem but it gives excessive ink when I write. Is there any solution?

  • @oopisteinepoiss6264
    @oopisteinepoiss6264 9 лет назад

    I fixed my Parker IM, which is normally wet in the first place. Many thanks!

    • @sbrebrown
      @sbrebrown  9 лет назад

      You're welcome!

    • @oopisteinepoiss6264
      @oopisteinepoiss6264 9 лет назад

      sbrebrown As i found out later, my pen's nib needed to be realigned and filed after i dried it. I didn't feel the scratchy pull in the diagonal upwards sweeps in the first place. No harm done, I got it working again the way i really like it.

  • @mckonal
    @mckonal 4 года назад

    this has been amazing. thank you SBRE.

  • @RDaMyth
    @RDaMyth 10 лет назад

    I sprung my Pilot Namiki Falcon and was desperate. Following these tips carefully and cautiously worked. Thank you!

    • @sbrebrown
      @sbrebrown  10 лет назад

      Well done, I am glad this was useful.

  • @RonaldoHoch
    @RonaldoHoch 3 года назад

    Thank you a lot!

  • @andrerieu100
    @andrerieu100 11 лет назад

    If you can pull out the nib and feed. Cut slightly into the ink channels of the feed this helped a lot with this exact issue with my lamy safari. But be gentle you don't want to bread. The feed or your fingers

  • @Taylor-Ma
    @Taylor-Ma 8 лет назад

    It works ! It really works! OMG! thank you for doing this video! I tried this method on my pilot custom 823 m nib three times with very light pressure! As a result, the gap became smaller! no extra ink bothering me anymore! Got a lot of ink on my hands tho , LoL....

    • @sbrebrown
      @sbrebrown  8 лет назад

      +Taylor Ma I'm glad this was useful!

  • @evelynnwinter5994
    @evelynnwinter5994 11 лет назад

    I need to emphasize that the FEED dries out - turns completely clear. As if no ink if flowing from the converter to the feed after 2 pages of writing.

  • @DrZeeple
    @DrZeeple 6 лет назад +1

    2017, I've just come out da time machine Scotty!!!
    So, weirdly enough I came here today with a PGB3000, but I also had an X450 in the draw with a similar issue (phenomenon); so done, sorted, cheers!
    Loupes: iOS 11, you can just use the iPhone now to look at ya tines Jimmy!
    Now, how do I make me X450 put down a Japanese line? hahahaha

    • @sbrebrown
      @sbrebrown  6 лет назад

      +Miao Glad this was useful!

  • @dinklebobins
    @dinklebobins 9 лет назад

    How do i make my shafer F 1.0 mm drier? Im new to fountain pens and I find your vids the most helpful.

  • @BROWNDUKE123
    @BROWNDUKE123 4 года назад

    Very informative thanks for all your help!

  • @PB877
    @PB877 11 лет назад

    Very useful video! Thank you! After all I have serious problems with my new TWSBI 580... :-( It seems to me that TWSBI has serious quality control problems... I never experienced something like that with a new Pelikan, Lamy or Montblanc... So I have to buy a cheap pen first in order to practice the nib adjusting.

  • @mikesmukula482
    @mikesmukula482 3 года назад

    Nice job!

  • @Rgc571
    @Rgc571 3 года назад

    Does the nib and feed alignment (distance from tip) affect wetness?

  • @YanithOlivares
    @YanithOlivares 6 лет назад

    I'm lazy for not reading 117 comments (as of today), but where did you get the book?

  • @evelynnwinter5994
    @evelynnwinter5994 11 лет назад

    Stephen, what would you say the problem is if a pen has no starter issues, is nice and wet, but after 2 pages or more of writing, the feed dries out completely? It's an Artista Crystal, so you can see the change occurring. I've pushed ink into it with the converter, but again after 2 pages, it's dry again. I've even deepened the ink channel myself, to no avail. Help!

  • @AllanEngelhardt0
    @AllanEngelhardt0 11 лет назад

    Thank you for this. Another very useful video from "Doc" Brown. Learn to enjoy the pain :)

  • @phm14
    @phm14 5 лет назад

    Could you demonstrate the what's "out/in" one more time?

  • @IamGlenQuagmire
    @IamGlenQuagmire 11 лет назад

    Fabulous stuff, Stephen, helped a lot on my MB344. Thanks!

  • @dren84
    @dren84 8 лет назад

    Excellent tutorial.

  • @ElizaHamilton1780
    @ElizaHamilton1780 11 лет назад

    Never occurred to me to ask how to make a nib drier, but hey--the more you know, right? Very helpful :)

  • @faruksoftic9721
    @faruksoftic9721 7 лет назад

    I have a Pilot Metropolitan (one of like 30 pens that I own) and I love it. I wrote with it and used it and everything was just fine and dandy, until one day, when I noticed that the tines on it were misaligned for some reason. I tried to align them (I wasn't nervous or anything because I've already done this to 3 pens), and... I screwed up. I splayed the tines just enough so that it won't write. It wasn't extreme, or beyond repair or anything, but the tines were just far enough from each other so my pen doesn't write. Doing what You've told me, Mr. Brown, I fixed my Metropolitan. Now it writes as it wrote before i screwed it up. You may think that I shouldn't sweat it too much over a Metropolitan, but it was a gift from my mother so it means a lot to me. Thank you so much. I honestly thought that I ruined my pen...

    • @sbrebrown
      @sbrebrown  7 лет назад

      Faruk Softic I'm glad this was helpful!

  • @greendiscussion
    @greendiscussion 11 лет назад

    Thank you very much! I did this treatment and my fountain pen writes very god now

  • @blumpkin50
    @blumpkin50 4 года назад

    Thank you for so many great videos! Great job. Was that a Sailor that you used to draw the nib? I have one and I believe the feed is clogged. I can’t seem to get it out. How is the feed removed on a Sailor 21, X1994 aka the mini. Please help. Thank you so much

    • @sbrebrown
      @sbrebrown  4 года назад

      I have no idea, I've never used that pen before

  • @mikew9537
    @mikew9537 7 лет назад +2

    So thankful for your "sacrifice" :D

  • @ArtJourneyUK
    @ArtJourneyUK 11 лет назад

    You crazy Dutchman lol! I have to tweak my mini... but I'm scared that I'll damage it.

  • @clydewilson1141
    @clydewilson1141 5 лет назад

    Your vids are awesome. Do you have a recommendation where to purchase a fine nib for a Pelikan M800 at a reasonable price? Thanks.

  • @TylerC_
    @TylerC_ 11 лет назад

    "I'm not trying to come off as arrogant, I'm just the best" -Stephen Brown 2013

  • @founink
    @founink 11 лет назад

    I figured out how to create the playlists to organize my favorite videos that you transmitted. Unfortunately, it means having to go to the youtube website and actually creating our own channel before we can create these playlists. Only then can we save your videos in these playlists!

  • @evelynnwinter5994
    @evelynnwinter5994 11 лет назад

    Perhaps it's oils from my hand. I worried that I may have bought a lemon (as the saying in the US goes) meaning "a dud" or defective pen. Now I have to figure out where to buy ammonia from!

  • @IamGlenQuagmire
    @IamGlenQuagmire 11 лет назад

    I will do everything possible to improve my pen's performance, Stephen, especially if it's a Montblanc pen! :)
    Keep up the brilliant work and best of luck to you from Hungary.

  • @andrerieu100
    @andrerieu100 11 лет назад

    For the x450 and x750 what is the difference is it just weight and size like the 146 & 149. And is there one which is overall better? Thanks

  • @ElizaHamilton1780
    @ElizaHamilton1780 11 лет назад +1

    Personally, I like wet pens too. I like seeing the ink gleaming on the page as it dries. Uh...the bottom of my left hand doesn't like them so much, though. :P

  • @Aporqpyn
    @Aporqpyn 11 лет назад

    Good stuff Stephen. Thanks!

  • @MrShooter54
    @MrShooter54 11 лет назад

    Can one take a regular nib and make it italic . Me being a lefty I haven't learned how I can hold the noodlers and get the flair like l do with a italic . Can u help ??

  • @conymascarenhas6793
    @conymascarenhas6793 Год назад

    Fabulous.

  • @johnchan1825
    @johnchan1825 11 лет назад

    Thanks Stephen, it's very useful.

  • @gudeking4247
    @gudeking4247 2 года назад

    Thankyou. This video was very useful :)

  • @King_Kenny66
    @King_Kenny66 11 лет назад

    Another good video Stephen!

  • @ArtJourneyUK
    @ArtJourneyUK 11 лет назад

    Yes, one of them is.

  • @SpinStar1956
    @SpinStar1956 9 лет назад

    Could you please tell me the color and brand of that nice aqua/turquoise(?) colored ink that you're using in your demonstration pen?

    • @sbrebrown
      @sbrebrown  9 лет назад

      I think this was Akkerman Trêves Turquoise.

    • @SpinStar1956
      @SpinStar1956 9 лет назад

      Thanks for the info on the Akkerman Treves Turquoise. And most important, thanks for all your great videos. I'm just getting into fountain pens (actually used them as a kid!) and already you've helped me resolve two "showstopper-level" issues on new pens I just got; both now working superbly. I still have a Duke FP that seems too wet (using PR-Spearmint) but probably is just right if you used black ink; I think I will just go with a lighter green (Diamine-Kelly-Green or Noodler's St. Patty's Eire) ink to compensate for the density; that is, I might want to make it be used for black; finally the geometries of this FP are for my skill-level scary to try to make it drier! So thanks again and thanks to all your great commenters and subscribers for their insightful comments and observations...

    • @sbrebrown
      @sbrebrown  9 лет назад

      I'm glad my videos are useful for you.

  • @indianartcraftschool758
    @indianartcraftschool758 5 лет назад

    Awesome work🙏💝🇮🇳🌹

  • @williamhumes3005
    @williamhumes3005 6 лет назад

    it's been years. My problem is different. The ink flow is completely out of control. If I point the nib at the paper the ink will drip out until the cartridge is empty.

    • @sbrebrown
      @sbrebrown  6 лет назад

      Are the nib and feed pushed far enough into the section? Is there damage to the inside of the section which has ruined the connection with the cartridge?

    • @williamhumes3005
      @williamhumes3005 6 лет назад

      The pen developed this problem while I was neglecting it
      I have two of these. I put ink into the cartridges and one is fine but the other gushes.

    • @sbrebrown
      @sbrebrown  6 лет назад

      William Humes Its possible it has become clogged. I would soak it in water overnight, Just the section I mean, and see what happens

    • @williamhumes3005
      @williamhumes3005 6 лет назад

      I just put more ink in the cartridge and made certain it is inserted completely

    • @williamhumes3005
      @williamhumes3005 6 лет назад

      still out of control
      one of these
      www.gouletpens.com/pilot-plumix-fountain-pen-black-stub/p/PN90040

  • @ElizaHamilton1780
    @ElizaHamilton1780 11 лет назад

    What, will these hands ne'er be clean? No more o' that, my lord, no more o' that. You mar all with this starting.... :P

  • @rubysumague-garcia5964
    @rubysumague-garcia5964 3 года назад

    What is your loupe size?

  • @emilianorabre6926
    @emilianorabre6926 6 лет назад

    Its a little bit stupid with a cheap/"unexpensive" pen because normally the brands like Jinhao, Pilot or a Lamy have a nib rechange, so you can go the shop (like me) and buy a new nib for 5€!

  • @l10industries
    @l10industries 11 лет назад

    It was quite useful, now I know what I am buying everyone for their birthday this year... LMFAO

  • @ProjectE2
    @ProjectE2 11 лет назад

    hey mate its me again:P.can you tell which one is the new camera you got?
    Helpful tips aswell on this one:P

  • @lusitanonl
    @lusitanonl 8 лет назад

    Thanks!

  • @pureby
    @pureby 7 лет назад

    Think was an awesome video! Heel erg bedankt :-)

  • @williamfigueras9754
    @williamfigueras9754 9 лет назад

    What type of pen is that second pen?

  • @williamfigueras9754
    @williamfigueras9754 9 лет назад

    the one you use to demonstrate the way the gap should look.

  • @user-gr3rk6ur2p
    @user-gr3rk6ur2p 5 лет назад

    excellent job thankyou 9/21/2018

  • @garmse
    @garmse 11 лет назад

    Great video!!

  • @ErikTheAndroid
    @ErikTheAndroid 11 лет назад

    Seeing as I prefer my pens to flow like a water hose I don't really see why one would like to make a pen more dry but that is just me.

  • @IamGlenQuagmire
    @IamGlenQuagmire 11 лет назад

    Yeah, now when I think about it I have to confess it was a brave effort, even if I was much more gentle than you in the video. But hey, it is perfect now!

  • @nihaldp
    @nihaldp 7 лет назад

    woooww awsome vid man realllyy helped me ..

  • @Proj8ct
    @Proj8ct 11 лет назад

    You should emphasise that if someone is brave enough to work on their gold nibed pens that they can be manipulated much easier than steel and thus can be damaged a lot easier