In interesting effect: the white 'stripe' on the IL2's rudder, when viewed against the clouds or the white buildings on the ground gave me the impression that the white section had 'disappeared'; I imagine if the whole plane was the right shade of white, under the right conditions it would nearly impossible to see.
@@pauka13 there is already a 2nd airworthy one with an original 801 I believe it's just not used in flying as it's only been recently restored and I dont even think the Berlin-Gatow museum even flies any of their planes... and afaik too there are more but I'm not too sure on the rest
I live in the area of Flying Heritage and got to see the most recent performance, unfortunately the 190 wasn't flying at the time I went so seeing this is a joy!
I watched a BF-109 cockpit flying video prior, and it's engine was loud. Then watched this, and was struck by the smooth, and amazingly quite, sound of that radial in the 190! Put a big smile on my face.
The IL-2, IL-10, Po-2 and Yak-9 were used the the Korean War five years later. The Americans used the P-51, C-47, B-29, A-26, and F4U Corsair in Korea too. We thought it was only a jet vs. jet war.
1:14 i see no fat bar like in ALL so called Simulator planes which we spend a lot of money !! Even DCS 190D9 is completely wrong in that....they all use OLD 3D model from IL2 it seems.
The reason why the bar doesn't show has to do with the armored glass. It refracts light in a way that is very different from a normal windscreen. For a simulator to fix this would be a strong undertaking to model a sort of light physics through glass.
It's harder than you think, in a game world most of what you see is done with 3d modeling. If they wanted to implement this effect they would have to make a custom view port for the FW, and if the technology isn't there then it can be a pain.
Murtsman1 what physics modeling are you talking about? Head movement in cockpit is so restricted that in real Fw190 you never see the thick frame... it’s doesn’t fit with post war narrative how bad the view from German planes was - I’m old enough to remember Oleg Maddox’s response to this issue raised years ago by IL-2 fans. Current Sturmovik series only continues in this idiotic trend
@@iRichardi 100%.....same goes with the upper bar from the armored glass in the 109 ! This bar was in real angled so that it hinders minimal the view when looking straight ! Now sit in a IL2 or DCS 109 and look direct in a fat upper bar which every designer immediately would fix or the Pilots would have killed this idiot !
i got some questions. is this a real job? is it easy to fly these planes? also if i'd get a "plane licence" would i be able to fly these types of planes like it is shown in the video it would be nice if you'd reply to this.
On phone -- 1: these planes have a special kind of landing gear making landing and ground ops a bit harder (taildraggers). 2: maybe, as they are piston planes but they are extremely expensive planes.
+ Raccoon Hard questions to answer in a few sentences. If you get your pilot license, you will need to work your way up through experience on different aircraft. These high performance aircraft are killers to inexperienced pilots. Remember that in the 1950s and 1960s these old planes were cheap and they killed a lot of people who only had a few hundred hours of Cessna time. If you get the experience, Stallion 51 in Florida offers a structured flight program to get type rated on the P-51. You would need to get basic pilot training and move on the intermediate aircraft, tail dragger, radial engine, etc to have good experience.
@@louissteven8862 The P-51 has more surviving airworthy examples than any other warbird. It also has had many losses after WW2, many from wealthy individuals who purchased one with little experience in high performance aircraft. This continued into 1980s. Stallion 51 in Florida was started both to offer experience flights to the public but they also have a training and transition program for prospective owners to get training and type rating on the P-51. (Taking a look at their website, it also looks like they have expanded the training program to include the AT-6 and L-39, which is great. T-6 time is next step before trying fighters.) I think Stallion 51 has been successful. I don' think there has been any other organized program for warbird training. Now that Hanger10 in Germany owns the only two-seat Bf-109G-12 I think they are using it to train pilots for the Bf-109 survivors. Regarding the rare original Fw-190 at the Flying Heritage Museum I think there are very few pilots that have flown it- Steve Hinton, Kevin Eldridge and maybe a few more. I think Hinton prepared for the Fw-190 by flying one of the Flugwerk replica examples. Hinton was also getting time in one of the new-build Me-262s to prepare to test fly Flying Heritage's new original Me-262. Getting back to the original question, many of these aircraft collections today are owned by non-pilots and they pay pilots to fly their examples. Nice gig, but they are picky about who they let fly them.
Es extremadamente satisfactorio ver volando máquinas poderosas después de 80 años. Felicitaciones a alemanes, británicos y americanos por empeñarse en fabricar máquinas bélicas tan eficientes para dominar en el mundo y otros para defender la libertad. ¡Viva la libertad, viva la vida!!! Grácias a Dios por ser ahora máquinas voladoras de exhibición,Bran solo!! También; a los varones que logran estas exhibiciones! Sigo estas tandas o secuencias de aviones ; pues me fascina que los ingenieros hayan hecho aviones de motores tan diversos y poderosos para aquellos tiempos. ! Felicitaciones!! No dejen de exhibir aviones italianos, rusos y japoneses de aquellos tiempos. Aunque no fueron tan buenos como los alemanes, británicos y americanos.
Damn i hate that modern instrumentation in that plane along with the green colored windshield or „Panzerglas“ and the wrong glossy color on the plane itself. Otherwise i totally respect the effort off restoring theFW-190 back to its former glory!
So you support the revision of history? This is a weapon used by a ruthless and cruel regime. Although the plane itself is a stunning example of engineering, trying to pretend it isn't what it was created and used for is turning a blind eye to an event that at least fifty million people died in. Preserve history. Don't modify it.
That's entirely incorrect, modifying existing war artefacts is actually illegal in Germany. Falls under law created to prevent historical revision. However it should stay where it was restored. FHC has the means to maintain and fly it, not many other locations do.
he use the cam like Testpilot Heini Dittmar :-) as u see here: www.fliegerrevuex.aero/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Me163V21-Heini-Dittmar-31Juli1943.jpg horrido
![[HD] Focke Wulf Fw190 Armorglass Windscreen Refraction, Lichtbrechung Fw190 Frontscheibe](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/uCGsyjt5ANU/mqdefault.jpg)
This video proves once and for all that JG27 is correct about the view issue in some sims.
A FW 190 flying in formation with an IL2. 70 years ago they'd be shooting at each other!
lol in the late 40's?
@@roywhiteo5 close enough, smartass
@@roywhiteo5 video was 6 years ago. So eh
@@roywhiteo5 My grandfather downed 5 German planes in the 1950s. He was the Luftwaffe's worst mechanic by a country mile.
They might be shooting at each other in a not so distant future...
In interesting effect: the white 'stripe' on the IL2's rudder, when viewed against the clouds or the white buildings on the ground gave me the impression that the white section had 'disappeared'; I imagine if the whole plane was the right shade of white, under the right conditions it would nearly impossible to see.
This was the first video I looked up after watching your original FOV discussion.
FirstDagger me too.
Wow…that was really cool. Can you just imagine all the drama and life and death struggles played out between these two once upon a time?
Didn't know there was still an operational 190 out there.
Only one in the world
@@vielplaysdagames2298 there are some bit this is the only one with the original bmw801 engine
@@pauka13 what was I meant
@@pauka13 there is already a 2nd airworthy one with an original 801 I believe it's just not used in flying as it's only been recently restored and I dont even think the Berlin-Gatow museum even flies any of their planes... and afaik too there are more but I'm not too sure on the rest
@@kh2b573 Hello KH2B, looks like you really mean it when you love 190's
Dang, DCS looks mighty convincing with Vulkan API. Can't wait 'til they release it
I live in the area of Flying Heritage and got to see the most recent performance, unfortunately the 190 wasn't flying at the time I went so seeing this is a joy!
Insane how quiet that BMW motor is beautiful!
I watched a BF-109 cockpit flying video prior, and it's engine was loud. Then watched this, and was struck by the smooth, and amazingly quite, sound of that radial in the 190! Put a big smile on my face.
It's not BMW. Only 1 Fw-190 in the world has the original BMW engine. The others have Lavochkin La-5's Shvetsov ASh radial engine.
This is that fw 190...
@@Elfrendar This is the BMW-powered Fw-190, flying with the museum's IL-2.
@@FiveCentsPlease
Yes your right. That's Bill Allen's (Microsoft fame) airplane and has the BMW radial. 👍
The IL-2, IL-10, Po-2 and Yak-9 were used the the Korean War five years later. The Americans used the P-51, C-47, B-29, A-26, and F4U Corsair in Korea too. We thought it was only a jet vs. jet war.
Great footage - how tall can you be and still fit in a FW?
Nein feet
@@louissteven8862 no feet!
Can not believe how good the visibility is lot better than my Ag cat and I fly it under high line wires
😳 Awesome !!! Fantastic !!! Now I Know How It is and feels... A dream since I was a kid. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Nicely build. Almost puré silence in the cockpit
It was a joy to watch. Thanks.
Love the fw190
Awesome you've got the best job on the planet 😳🥺👍
1:14 i see no fat bar like in ALL so called Simulator planes which we spend a lot of money !!
Even DCS 190D9 is completely wrong in that....they all use OLD 3D model from IL2 it seems.
The reason why the bar doesn't show has to do with the armored glass. It refracts light in a way that is very different from a normal windscreen. For a simulator to fix this would be a strong undertaking to model a sort of light physics through glass.
Instead of that it´s way easier to cut out the idiotic bar or set the gunsight higher so we have the real view outside of a 190 cabin !
It's harder than you think, in a game world most of what you see is done with 3d modeling. If they wanted to implement this effect they would have to make a custom view port for the FW, and if the technology isn't there then it can be a pain.
Murtsman1 what physics modeling are you talking about? Head movement in cockpit is so restricted that in real Fw190 you never see the thick frame... it’s doesn’t fit with post war narrative how bad the view from German planes was - I’m old enough to remember Oleg Maddox’s response to this issue raised years ago by IL-2 fans. Current Sturmovik series only continues in this idiotic trend
@@iRichardi 100%.....same goes with the upper bar from the armored glass in the 109 ! This bar was in real angled so that it hinders minimal the view when looking straight ! Now sit in a IL2 or DCS 109 and look direct in a fat upper bar which every designer immediately would fix or the Pilots would have killed this idiot !
OVVIAMENTE GLI APPLAUSI ERANO SOLO PER IL MAGNIFICO FW 190🤩😍👍🇸🇲
"GoPro" at 360p
i got some questions.
is this a real job?
is it easy to fly these planes?
also if i'd get a "plane licence" would i be able to fly these types of planes like it is shown in the video
it would be nice if you'd reply to this.
On phone -- 1: these planes have a special kind of landing gear making landing and ground ops a bit harder (taildraggers). 2: maybe, as they are piston planes but they are extremely expensive planes.
+ Raccoon Hard questions to answer in a few sentences. If you get your pilot license, you will need to work your way up through experience on different aircraft. These high performance aircraft are killers to inexperienced pilots. Remember that in the 1950s and 1960s these old planes were cheap and they killed a lot of people who only had a few hundred hours of Cessna time. If you get the experience, Stallion 51 in Florida offers a structured flight program to get type rated on the P-51. You would need to get basic pilot training and move on the intermediate aircraft, tail dragger, radial engine, etc to have good experience.
@@FiveCentsPlease p51? Wtf?
@@louissteven8862 The P-51 has more surviving airworthy examples than any other warbird. It also has had many losses after WW2, many from wealthy individuals who purchased one with little experience in high performance aircraft. This continued into 1980s. Stallion 51 in Florida was started both to offer experience flights to the public but they also have a training and transition program for prospective owners to get training and type rating on the P-51. (Taking a look at their website, it also looks like they have expanded the training program to include the AT-6 and L-39, which is great. T-6 time is next step before trying fighters.) I think Stallion 51 has been successful. I don' think there has been any other organized program for warbird training. Now that Hanger10 in Germany owns the only two-seat Bf-109G-12 I think they are using it to train pilots for the Bf-109 survivors. Regarding the rare original Fw-190 at the Flying Heritage Museum I think there are very few pilots that have flown it- Steve Hinton, Kevin Eldridge and maybe a few more. I think Hinton prepared for the Fw-190 by flying one of the Flugwerk replica examples. Hinton was also getting time in one of the new-build Me-262s to prepare to test fly Flying Heritage's new original Me-262. Getting back to the original question, many of these aircraft collections today are owned by non-pilots and they pay pilots to fly their examples. Nice gig, but they are picky about who they let fly them.
@@FiveCentsPlease I really thoght p51s were expensive and few could fly them. INTERESTING...
Great awesome footage. Loved it. Cheers 🍻
I guess I won’t be complaining about the the roof siding on my car obstructing my rearward view.
You need to see it in VR: it's like a whole 'nother world when you've got both eyes.
Woouu nice sound FW190 Engine.. good View for the pilot point
Awesome plane!❤
Could you imagine if those two warbirds could talk? They'd be trying to kill each other. Good show overall.
I envy that pilot.
Wich variant is it?
FW-190A-5. Fought on the eastern front
FEELS LIKE BATTLEFIED V TO ME
Es extremadamente satisfactorio ver volando máquinas poderosas después de 80 años. Felicitaciones a alemanes, británicos y americanos por empeñarse en fabricar máquinas bélicas tan eficientes para dominar en el mundo y otros para defender la libertad.
¡Viva la libertad, viva la vida!!!
Grácias a Dios por ser ahora máquinas voladoras de exhibición,Bran solo!!
También; a los varones que logran estas exhibiciones!
Sigo estas tandas o secuencias de aviones ; pues me fascina que los ingenieros hayan hecho aviones de motores tan diversos y poderosos para aquellos tiempos.
! Felicitaciones!!
No dejen de exhibir aviones italianos, rusos y japoneses de aquellos tiempos. Aunque no fueron tan buenos como los alemanes, británicos y americanos.
Dios te bendiga
Is it A5 or A8?
A5
+ Morava 833 It is an original Fw-190A-5 with the factory U3 modification for ground attack. So Fw-190A-5/U3.
Anyone else ever notice the minimize button for the screen is a luftwaffe German symbol. ?
😂😂
Damn i hate that modern instrumentation in that plane along with the green colored windshield or „Panzerglas“ and the wrong glossy color on the plane itself. Otherwise i totally respect the effort off restoring theFW-190 back to its former glory!
war thunder 2?
Im surprised they kept the Swastika on the tail
So you support the revision of history? This is a weapon used by a ruthless and cruel regime. Although the plane itself is a stunning example of engineering, trying to pretend it isn't what it was created and used for is turning a blind eye to an event that at least fifty million people died in. Preserve history. Don't modify it.
I....I never said anything about modifying it. I didnt mean to offend if I did, I was just saying
the German Air Force was far more humane than the Army or SS. More info I found about it is in the book "A Higher Call"
Should be sent over to Germany.
That's entirely incorrect, modifying existing war artefacts is actually illegal in Germany. Falls under law created to prevent historical revision. However it should stay where it was restored. FHC has the means to maintain and fly it, not many other locations do.
he use the cam like Testpilot Heini Dittmar :-) as u see here: www.fliegerrevuex.aero/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Me163V21-Heini-Dittmar-31Juli1943.jpg
horrido
It's a pity the Il-2 and Fw190 didn't engage in one last combat for old time's sake
................(sigh!).............. maybe next time then!! 🤣👍