Bolt EUV 70 MPH COLD Range.. is it enough?
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2024
- The Bolt EUV is one of the best Electric Cars, but can it Handle the COLD? In this video we STRESS our BOLT EUV to its limit by running a "real world" Range test with non ideal, non curated conditions!
Range Test Details:
Cabin temp set: 70 F
Snow Tires @ 34 PSI
Average Speed: 70 MPH
outside temp -16F to -8 F
Weight/Trim stock Premier trim W/out sun and sound package
Trip start arpx 6:30 AM
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0:00 Intro
0:31 Trip Setup
1:08 Supercruz on highway
1:35 Vehicle Setup & Weather
2:41 75% Battery
3:31 50% Battery
4:04 25% Battery, Efficiency so far
4:32 Reroute & Low Charge issues
5:28 Range Meter is “low”
6:01 Range Summary
6:55 2nd Mission Start
7:44 Arrives at NEC’s house
9:08 Conclusion 
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what would you guys like to see in a range test?
Chesty ladies make all drive videos better.
Siberia -50C same test :D thats like -100F
@@effexon -50C = -58F, at -40 both C and F are equal. Just for information, not a criticism.
I was in -50F temp once and it was -100F windchill. Darn cold. Staying by the fire weather.
B e w b s
I like it cold tho
Definitely a useful test. I haven’t driven my EUV in weather quite that cold, but it’s good to know what to expect
Thanks! Yea I wanted to put the car through something really tough. But realistically, I need to take a bathroom break every two hours so it works out.
I can’t tell you how helpful this is. Thank you!
Ur welcome! I’m glad the vid helped u out! It’s a great car! Just remember, I tested in like the worst case scenario possible possible conditions that I can replicate
that's COLD! This is the range test we've been waiting for.
Yea it was COLD
I love it to see kids being happy! You made Stella's day...! I have never own an electric vehicle, I think the concept is great, but not really practical where I live. But keep the content going! Luv it!!
Thanks a lot buddy! Yeah, there’s some challenges still however, I feel like it’s going to get much better as time goes on. Eventually, I feel it’s not gonna become an issue at all!
Stella was very happy to receive her gift!
Great video
Thank you! Make sure to get subscribe for future releases!
Amazing RUclipsr, friend, and techie. #Misfitmining!!
Hey there thanks a lot man I appreciate it! However, I am no longer associated with Misfits Mining.
Surprise NEC crossover, love it! Does the Bolt have 12v outlets?
Yes, I was using the 12 V outlet to multiple USB c adapter to power all my devices.
future of social media: "look ma, no hands, driving in highway !"
Just like from back to the future, “you have to use your hands?” that’s for babies!
I don't even own an ev but it still was fun to watch.
Thanks buddy, yeah, I enjoy making videos like this because it’s more real world and something that’s more down to earth.
Thank you for this. I'm considering making the jump to an electric vehicle, but I live in northern MN. In January, it's not uncommon for the weather to ever get above 0F, so I've been wondering just how significant the sub-zero temperatures affect battery life. All I ever read is "cold weather" but no real definition of how cold weather is defined by the reviewer. In the winter months, I consider 0F really pretty nice! I have a 54 mile commute for work along a rural highway. I'd love to know how the range is at -20F to -30F.
I’ve seen people commenting that in the extreme cold below 20° negative F they get around 100ish miles.
And you’re welcome! I tried to make the video hit on areas that may or may not have been covered in other videos, such as specifics on the temperature and speed.
If you drive a little slower than 70 mph, you get a lot more range it’s quite significant you get a big drop off after 55.
Your 58-ish mile round-trip commute will be totally fine. If that’s your only thing holding you back, it’s a great vehicle!
I'm in the process of buying a used Bolt EV. I'm glad I saw this video - I typically drive to Northern Michigan from Metro Detroit to see Family. There's a spot where there's no DC Fast Charging for about 125 Miles. It typically gets to the single digits and negative teens in Northern Michigan. If I were to travel in this charger dead zone, what would be your suggestion?
Hey there it’s kinda hard to have long conversations and RUclips comments but I’ll do what I can.
For reference, it’s best to come join our Discord linked in the description.
If you drive the car more normally/not as fast and have the climate settings a little bit bit better you can definitely make it
I was driving it with under pressurized tires, snow tires high-speed and -14° weather. So basically worst case scenario that I could do in practicality.
HA! I was WRONG!!! When I saw the title, I expected 30-40F -- because most people are WEAK.
YOU are not MOST PEOPLE! Hats OFF!!!
Hey there buddy, thanks for the comment! I wanted to put the car through a real world, stressful situation in the coldest temperatures! It was definitely cold!
Anyone concerned about range in winter should be driving 55-60 mph. Doing this should net you an extra ~+15% range vs 70mph.
True although most ppl in America like to speed lol 😂
Thanks for the video. My Lt EUV's built, but hasn't shipped yet.
What kind of winter tires? I run michelin x-ice these days. I'd like to see a cold-weather test at 60mph with the tires at 38psi cold, to see the difference. Thanks.
Michelin, ice X3”s when you’re going around 60 mph for pressure you get around 150 ish going 70 mph is significantly more worse.
@@TekShinji - Since cruze, volt, sonic, and buick encore wheels fit the Bolt, I'm looking for nice 15" alu Sonic wheels to run 205/65x15 or 195/70x15 winters; I won't need them until next year now.
I'm sure you know, but 205/60x16, 205/65/15, and 195/70x15s are good replacement sizes for the Bolt.
My commute to work is on 50mph roads, so I assume I"ll get better range numbers.
@@davidrandall2742 I have the same commute. I have a 30 mile trip one way. And the speed limit 55 mph. I generally get around 2.5 to 3 miles per kilowatt when I’m going 55, 60 mph at normal pressure.
Are used to work as a automotive mechanic for many years and 99% of the vehicles coming and didn’t have proper inflation on the tires. So I feel that having properly inflated tires for arrange test is unrealistic of the real world. (Just imo)
@@TekShinji -- I'm retentive about tire pressure and brake caliper servicing, which had my '19 awd Prius average 61 us mpg from new over 55k miles; so few people realize how quickly disk brakes start to drag; I service them all each time I swap from summer to winter wheels/tires or vice versa.
You also used snow tires at 34 PSI! That really impacts range. Normal tires are about 42 psi when measured hot.
That’s a little high. The tires I have specifically say, do not to exceed 40 psi, and the car says to maintain 36 psi.
The reason why this was done was to stimulate real world conditions since almost nobody drives with perfect psi.
The worst case scenario on every level to do a full stress test.
Question, what was the tire psi after the tires warmed up from driving? Usually I get 2-3 psi increase after driving 20 mins on the highway.
70mph is not kw saving speed. Driving slower at 65 or even 60 would raise your miles per kw numbers, and maybe try to lower hvac to about 70F
Oh did u watch the whole vid?
What could you do to practically improve this range test without sacrificing your comfort? That would be a great video.
Well, I guess a lot of things could be done. But I would like to hear some of your suggestions!
Drive slower. 55mph is a sweet spot, but even 60-65 is tremendously better.
Honestly, there’s a way to hyper mullet, much more and probably get 25% more range. This whole purpose was to stress it out in the most realistic way possible.
This is good information, but I wish you had shown the energy usage screen with how much power went for propulsion, heat, and battery conditioning. The only clue was that it showed 5kW in use while you were parked at the charger but before you actually started charging.
Hey there, go ahead and reply to this comment, and I’ll help you out with some information!
@@TekShinji yes, please provide
Haha not even the original poster but it’s about 20/80
When you stopped to charge, what did you charge to? How long did it take?
I charge to about 70% and then I drove to New England Crypto’s house and then from that point I drove back with another pitstop on the way
I got about 200km of range from my Volvo XC40 EV in winter. At 2 miles (3,6km) per kWh, the consumption was about the same, driving about 100 to 130km/hr (60-80mi/hr)
It was kinda disappointing, but doable. I had technical issues with the car (lots of software issues) and got rid of it. Now I'm driving a petrol car again. I'm still considering to get an EV, but not sure which one. I kinda like the BMW i4, but it's pretty pricy.
Yes it’s expensive. But then again new electric cars aren’t that expensive compared to the average price of a new car.
Yeah, disappointing on the range but definitely doable. At least for me. I need to take a break every two hours so it’s not really a big issue. I do wish the DC fast charging was faster on the bolt euv thi
@@TekShinji that's fair, all new cars are expensive. Maybe I just want a BMW 3 station (wagon) EV or Volvo V60 EV
Yeah, I can’t wait for them to come out for sure!
Two suggestions. 1) hold out for the 2024 Chevrolet Equinox. 2) RENT one for a week, and make sure it will work out for you, before you spend the "big bucks" on it. I rent for a week, because it's the same as a 'no obligation' extended test drive. You can learn a lot more about the car, than going to a dealership, and driving it 'around the block'. Get the trim that has the biggest battery. I'm waiting to rent the all wheel drive 2-motor version, with the big battery. If you get the front wheel drive version, it's estimated to travel ~301 miles on a charge. The dual motor AWD is estimated at ~270-290 miles per charge.
Lol I suppose that is a way to go ha
Do you keep your Bolt in a garage during the winter months
Yes, I do :-)
I'd be curious what the range reduction is in percent. What range do you get when you go a constant 70mph in summer temps?
You roughly lose about 40% of your range. With the heat and high speed in the cold weather combined.
@@TekShinji Doesn't consumption (of energy or gas) increase exponentially with speed? Maybe it would be possible to increase range quite a bit in the winter by simply driving 5mph-10mph slower? Yes, it's inconvenient, but it's really a small price to pay if you live in a cold climate with an EV. I'm in Alaska, btw.
Exactly. It’s been proven that I have to go past six years old miles per hour. Your range drastically decreases with every mile per hour. Since most people in the United States, don’t have a speed laws and feel that they need to speed no matter what, I was trying to get the car, a realistic harsh world scenario.
Personally, I don’t really drive over the speed limit. If you account for getting a ticket once every year, it doesn’t make any sense regarding wear and tear and overall cost in Time savings.
It’s cheaper to just work more hours at work 😅
Slow it down to 65 and you'll get a lot more range.
I found the most efficient speed is between 45 and 65. Of course doing 45 on the highway is illegal in some areas.
Yikes ev stuff is way more tricky than I thought when it gets that cold.
It’s not as tricky. There is a lot of reroutes on the route. Lotta charging station options. The problem was the Rangers really reduced out that high speed.
@@TekShinji when i say tricky, i really mean it takes more planning and preparing and checking. where i live there is only about 1 ev charger within a 30 min drive from me and then the next one is about the same, both of which are either prob down or being used and thats only if you are in the city lol. where i NORMALLY drive like out in the country, there are zero for hours and hours. id never ever be able to own an ev unless it got 350+ mile range. i just got back from naples beach visiting some friends and it was a 7 hour trip each way MOOOOOOVIN on the highway too lol, traffic was even out pacing me at times lol. but i get about 18mpg now and about 340-350 miles per tank of gas if im driving normal and not trying to hyper mile. im ok with that kind of range but when i want to go some where, i always go at the spur of the moment, planning is not my thing when it comes to road trips, i just plug in my destination and i just haul butt. i never have time to sit and wait and charge and all that. if you get stranded out here it could be life or death in the wrong part of town lol
oh i understand! yes it dose CURRENTLY take a bit of planing. however i dont genrealy plan long trips out. i just check onthe way like at the 1/2 way point while its driving it self onthe highway orsuch. but yea long distance trips are LLOT better in diffrent evs. the IOnic5 can do like 50% charge in less than 18 min. so park go to the bathroom and back on the road. lots of cars charge awayyy faster and have bigger batteries. i think we will be there one day soon. like 5-10 years where geting eletric is no longer a speical choise.
It used to be that you'd go to the hardware store to buy a can of gas to fuel your car.
The infrastructure will come along. Just wait.
This video would have been complete if you had gone back at 55 or 60 MPH and gave a difference. I am glad though that you didn't skimp on tires and heat. I wouldn't.
I agree, however, I wanted to make a video that showed more realistic non-perfect conditions that are more on the worse end, since that’s where it really matters
problem is resistance heating and speed 70 mph is high for every EV specially in winter
Yes it was a more than normal stress test
Try and precondition 15 minutes- plugged into l2. The range should be much better!
Hi there, the car did have preconditioning but the bolt dose not precondition the battery for cold weather it only keeps it from freezing to cold. The precondition mostly affects cabin temp. Thanks for the info!
interesting at the start it said "Min 146". Does GM not realize what "min" means? Taking a completely normal trip shouldn't miss that number by 50%.
Yeah, I think it’s just protecting your historical driving prior to that. So if I were to drive exactly like I did that day, I think the minimum would be more accurate.
117 miles isn’t half of 146. It is bad though.
It’s not… I DK what that was. However, totally stressed out almost worst case scenario 127 miles is pretty decent unless I am driving one way in a charging desert, there’s always a DC fast charger within that range for me and that’s in rural New Hampshire.
Interesting video, but a Tech person should know the difference between kilowatt and kilowatt-hour!
And know that some people would need to know whether the temperature you’re stating is Fahrenheit or Celsius.
Precondition the car for better range?
Thanks for the feedback. Much appreciated! The car was reconditioned, and the thumbnail which attracts the most people does have the F or Fahrenheit :-)
you got almost exactly 1/2 the range I would expect on a summer day, with no climate control. I tell people all the time, to get a car with roughly twice the range they think they need, just to make sure it will be enough, on days like these!
EXACTLY! I mean tho. Who drives 130 miles every day!? It’s PLENTIFUL for like 99% of most ppls situations. On top of that my test was one of the worst!
Thanks for watching and let ppl know evs are the way!
I watched...
Hehe 😜
-14 and you're wearing a sweatshirt, no gloves, no fog on your glasses. Something's not right. I'm guessing you preheated the cabin and chucked your coat, hat and gloves in the back seat?
It was extremely cold no doubt. I did preheat the cabin, for about 20 minutes before we left. I’ve lived in this area for over 10 years, so I’m used to the cold, I generally wear shorts and a T-shirt until it gets below 55° outside.
@@TekShinji I can't even imagine
Yea u can’t feel ur face when u go out side during that temperature
Nice to see a fair size battery and all, but it's not all that efficient, is it...
3.0 miles / kWh = 210 Wh / 100 km.
My Ioniq 1st gen easily does this at like 150 Wh / 100 km in cold weather, and even as low as 120 Wh / 100 km in the summer.
The Bolt's *double* the battery size makes up for it, but it's not twice as good.
wait..... as the video plays... 2 miles / kWh? That's like 31 kWh / 100 km. Woof.... at *that* rate, the 28.8 kWh battery of the Ioniq will perform about the same as the 60 or 65 kWh battery of the Bolt !!!
But wait... -14F, -25C... the Ioniq will not do 150 Wh / 100km. More like 220. Which is about 2.8 miles / kWh.
Ok, so the Ioniq, ballpark, might be about 40% more efficient.
The Bolt will go further, but not nearly double as far, even though the battery is twice the capacity.
That Ioniq, btw, is deemed to be the most efficient EV there is.
I was also testing it under harsh conditions. A lot of people say it’s not realistic, but I’d say more people drive like that than not.
On the contrary. Electric cars are very efficient. They just can’t hold very much power practically or efficiently.
For example, a gallon of gasoline, I’ll has a tremendous amount of energy, but we have a hard inefficient process to extract that. Most of its for a light and heat.
Electric cars are like very high efficiency relative to the low to small double digits of gasoline
@@TekShinji I think there will be a point where electric vehicles will have more range than a gas vehicle. Battery technology is happening at a rapid pace. Soon we will have solid state which are lighter and more efficient. Another interesting note is that battery degradation isn't as bad as we thought it would be, there are Bolts with 300,000 miles on them.
@@Joel-re1jz I totally agree. I think it’s only a matter of time. I always told people that one day you’re going to go to the dealership and the car that you want. Just happens to be Electric. Not the other way around.
@@TekShinji I just purchased a 2022 Bolt EUV Premier and I feel pretty dumb not getting it years ago. Free charging at work, moderate temps on the East Coast (We generally don't see negative F very often) and it rides great. Only gripe is that EV Charging stations are hit or miss around me. Half of the time they are down.