likemikegenerationx2 12 seconds down 6 you only have time for 2 shots. Wtf do you mean of course you take it. It wouldn't matter if they all sat down to let him get the 2. They let him get it because they knew 2 points wouldn't help OKC.
TheSwagIsBack He was guaranteed to lose like he did if he settled for 2. He had an 18% chance to make a 3 and give them a chance to put McDermott in for a game saving 3 after that if Houston missed the FTs or messed up on the inbound. 18% will always be better than the 0% chance he had to tie the game with a 2.
I love Westbrook but he has to be held accountable. He messed up in the 4th and they lost. Take that L and keep it moving. Hopefully next game Westbrook plays better and the team steps up
yaboidub They're is nothing to explain his team didn't step up and lost the lead so in the 4th he stopped trusting them to make shots. Westbrook had a bad 4th and they lost. It wasn't all his fault but he needs to shoulder some of the responsibility for it.
bomberbcm He's lying anyway. They did not lose the lead. They were still up 1 with 8 Min and Russ was on the floor. McDermott who shot 80% was wide open in the corner and Russ didn't care. Russ drove, got blocked and turned it over giving up the lead.
Daniel Wells It's seriously a scapegoat. If they win or do well, Westbrook gets all the credit. And when they do bad, his teammates get all of the blame. It reminds me of how the media treated Kobe before. Except Kobe was a multiple time champion before he got that respect. Westbrook is basically the new media darling. Colin Cowherd is the only guy out there spitting the facts. When they talk about Russ FG% being bad (like in this game) they want to blame the teammates. But when he was playing with Durant and Harden on contending teams his FG% was no better. Yet they want to act like that didn't happen and just blame he teammates (and the coach) now.
This is so true. We often see this with his assist numbers. He'll only give up the ball at the last point on the shot-clock when he can no longer find a scoring shot sometimes. So, a teammate is left to try and create a shot, with a few seconds remaining. And if they do, its an assist for Westbrook and he gets credit for it. If it bricks, then everyone else on the team but Westbrook apparently sucks.
Also, Westbrook is not a shooting guard or small forward. He's a point guard. It's his job to distribute and run an offense which he doesn't attempt to do
Beginning of the season, most people were saying Harden and Russ has comparable teams, talent-wise. Now everyone is saying Harden has more help, even before Lou came through. Not Harden's fault he leads his team and gradually made them better through out the season.
for the entire season people have been disrespecting Oladipo and Adams. Oladipo was beginning to be seen as the franchise star in Orlando and Adams after his playoff performance was looking to be one of the best big men in the league. Yet everytime someone talks about OKC it's that Russ has no help. He is supposed to be able to make these guys better as the point guard but now they are dependent on him to do everything because he doesn't allow them to get involved.
Thank you Chris Broussard!!! I been sayin that you need to play Russell at the 2. Thats what he played in high school and college, why can't he play it in the NBA?
Prod. Okendo No, he didn't. During the time they played together, KD averaged 17 shots while Westbrook averaged 14 shots. KD also averaged more three point attempts than Westbrook did when they played together. And look at Westbrook's assists numbers. They have constantly hovered around 8-10 assists per game. Its not like he was averaging 3 assists for his career.
Eddie House and Chris Broussard are trippin, how do you know anybody doesn't want to shoot it, when they aren't even getting the touches. They miss because Russ just throws it to them with 3 sec. in the shot clock. Of course you're off when you don't touch the ball for 3 or 4 possessions in a row. At one point Russ took 13 straight shots. That's unacceptable. As a role player he should know how those other players felt not getting the touches. And let's not act like the man went like 10 of 18 or 9 of 18, the man went 4 of 18 in ONE QUARTER, 8 or 9 mins to be exact. Stop making excuses. This team hasn't developed because Russ hasn't allowed them too.
narrickcuz let me ask you a question. Have you seen the thunder games this year? I ask for two reasons. 1 because many time throughout the season Russ has over passed to teammates in many games and they lost because they are great shooters. 2 Russ has came in the fourth quarters many times this season and won the game. Of course 18 shots is too many in a quarter, but if you haven't seen the thunder play, you will criticize of course!!
Quinton lovett I get that but some games he hasn't passed enough, I get what you're saying but sometimes you have to go with the flow of the game. Through 3 quarters he played GREAT by going with the flow, by attacking when he had to but also mixing in getting his players involved. But for some reason in the 4th he didn't even try to involve them. And yeah I've seen him come in in 4th quarters in the game but it's different to take that many shots when you hot and got it going, but when you're a leader he should've realized last night that he just didn't have it and then tried to create for his teammates but he never did.
He cooked all three quarters though. When do people start holding teammates accountable, if your superstar player is keeping you in the game you should feel obligated to step up and knock shots down. Russ drop 51 and a triple, how is he the blame for the lost
Charles Khoilan right u watching the game now? he got hella shooters spacing the floor and he living in the paint. russ has no shooters that's why hard to get assists and easier points in the paint.
Too convenient. Praise Russ when they win and blame his team mates when they lose. People keep saying Russ needs more help on offense. Does Russ look, play or sound like someone who wants help when it comes to anything?
This Russ love affair is insane. And people thought that the Curry bandwagon was bad. First, 33-9 with a triple double. Congratulations, over who? Let's consider first of all that that stat is pure correlation. Do they still lose if he got a double double? We don't know. we just love that he got nice round numbers, so we can't criticise him for being an (impressive) one man show, a poor shot by NBA standards or the coach for giving him the keys and not creating the team. It's ridiculous that we blame his teammates if they lose, but, if they win, it's all cause of Russ. For the past year, the system at OKC has been, you'll get paid 10 million to sit there and shoot until Russ gets 10 assists, then you're just there to look pretty. How does that develop confidence and rhythm? How does that add in the new pieces and help them develop their game? And if your organisation's motto is Russ is Jesus and then some, who is going to step up and fight with Westbrook about sharing the ball or actually running a play? Do you really think Oladipo, a 4th year player in the league will fight with the franchise player?
I'm tired of people giving Westbrook a pass, If your supposed "leader" takes 18 shot attempts and then 10 shot attempts later starts to pass the ball, your teammates lose their rhythm and lose their confidence because all they're doing is watching Westbrook shoot them out of the game
Chris Broussard has been really flailing lately to justify his Russell Westbrook MVP pick. He knows that his credibility is going to be destroyed if he changes his mind on this. He keeps bringing up that triple double winning percentage stat like it's something great, being one or two assists or rebounds away from a triple double doesn't mean ANYTHING. Just because he got those extra stats doesn't mean that the team is better off because of it. You simply CANNOT be great team when you play this way, nobody is growing on that team. Oladipo and Steven Adams are actually really good players, but their development is being severely stunted by this triple double obsession. OKC has become the Russell Westbrook show, and every other player on that team is just watching him dribble out the clock and get the easy assist. If you think that's worthy of an MVP award, then the NBA is truly dead.
For real bro, i'm starting to dislike him, he can't take facts. Shannon on the other hand i disliked him but i'm liking him more lately because he is factual. Go watch his opinion of this game, nothing but facts.
Yeah, and if you notice Chris can get pretty defensive and annoyed when his opinion is aggressively challenged. The way he talked over and belittled Nick Wright on Undisputed a couple of months ago when he was doing the Jordan/Lebron talk was downright disrespectful and opened my eyes up about this dude's character. I get that Nick isn't the most well liked dude, but that was just rude.
He got his wish to be the man so congrats. He's not a student of the game when it comes to embracing the PG role. Make Donovan play Doug more you're the star. Defenses have to respect his 3ball. Harden pushed and encouraged the Lou trade, open your mouth and scout the same.
Wouldn't want him on my team, even if we were the worst in the NBA. He doesn't care about his team nor his teammates. Last night , down 6, he decided to go for a two pointer instead of a three, which would have made it a one possession game. Why did he do that? Well he was at 49 points, he sucks at 3s, and he wanted a 50 point game. Hes played like that all season. Only 2 players leave more uncontested shots then Russell Westbrook, and its 2 CENTERS. How? Because instead of guarding the shooter, he'd rather get a head start on getting the rebound, so he can get a triple double. Why do you think good shooting teams like the Warriors always mollywop them? OKC would be doing the team a favor by not making him the future leading vet of the team, because all they will ever be, is a 40 to 50 one and done team.
Tbh Russell Westbrook in the fourth decided to do everything himself but I don't blame him, he goes on the bench for two minutes and they lose their 12 point lead, tbh I don't blame him at all. Yeah you should trust them, but when they're wack and they let you down before and done so majorly in this game, I don't blame him for playing like that
Nana Dankwah That makes no sense. The didn't lose the lead it just got smaller. He lost the lead when he got blocked instead of passing to McDermott. Beyond that what happened when he was on the bench was the result of whoever the PG was not creating anything for anyone. So Russ jumps in and decides not to create for anyone and that makes sense to you?
Mcdermot was hitting shots made 3 three pointers of 4 tries,in 4 quarter he was open many times,but Wesbrook did not a single time to Mcdermot and choosed go and shoot some wild shot with 2 defenders on him
Lowry vs Bucks in 3 games: 36 min 13 points per game 36% FG 4 assists,3 turnovers this is his best playoffs stats in his career,he ballin out of his mind this offseason compared to his other seasons....
I understand what y'all are saying but it you already do almost everything for the team and you are BALLING...and give them a 12 point lead and u go to the bench and its down to 2 in 2 minutes?? That's frustrating so I can see why he tried to come back and do it all again...some would say he didn't have to but what is he supposed to do? But tbh its no excuse to have that bad of a quarter if our shot is not falling just realise it and mov the ball.
What gets lost in the stats is the fact that Westbrook is the POINT GUARD. He has to orchestrate the offense and that means more than just scoring. Assists and hockey assists are needed too. No he doesn't have the best team around him but he also doesn't help elavate their play either. Allow them to get into some type of rhythm. They need real ball movement and movement off the ball to make the defense work. Donovan needs to do better as well with getting Westbrook open and easier shots. Every team can't drive and kick especially when you don't have shooters. OKC needs to play to the strengths of their personnel. One dimensional offense doesn't work in the playoffs.
I think they're all right. All of them are right. Westbrook has no help. Westbrook shouldn't have gone 4-18. Westbrook was forcing it down the stretch. Donovan has to get some plays for Oladipo. Gotta get him going, bring him out.
Martin Hurtado wait hold up, why would melo want to be like a pg??? like atleast say my boy DRose but why melo? hes a sf... and hes so overrated he lead the team in pts, rebs AND asts last year off season ending surgery??? hop off westbrook, he got 11 teammates on his shoulders already
Matt The Knicks Fan more efficient? I don't think so. I will take the guy who did something that might no be done again in the history of nba. I hate harden but I salute him for what he has done, but I'll never say any negative things against him. Your words are obviously hating Westbrook.
Russ was the only reason they were in the ball game in the first place. You can't blame him solely for the loss. However, if Russ played the 4th quarter like he played in the first three quarters, moving the ball around, taking good shots and dictating the pace of the game, the Thunder even the series 1-1.
Why are we overrating Russell Westbrook so much, we all know he is a good player, but he's not a "team player", he didn't play well with superstars like Harden or Durant, & now people are complaining he has no help. Last time I checked, no one in the history of the NBA has won a championship alone, not even Kobe, Jordan or James.
Russ has gone through three allstar players and is working on his second coach. At some point he has to dress down the stylish emperor gear and look in the mirror. I'm not hating on Russ. He has unlimited potential. Champions elevate the play of those around them. He is not a consistent enough shooter to play off the ball. No one is getting him to diminish his role but him. With an ego like his he will have to address his own limitations and adjust accordingly. Russ is painting himself into a corner much like Iverson. He can't win a chip by himself.
Broussard is usually the best when it comes to objectivity but when it comes to westbrook he lets him slide way too often. how in tf do you defend 4-18 in ONE QUARTER which shot his team out the game clearly
That 4th quarter was cringy. Doesn't matter if you love Westbrook or not. Im actually a fan myself. If your teammates have no confidence shooting the ball then either the coaching is slacking or Russel Westbrook was speaking literally when he said his only friend was the basketball.
The thing ppl won't admit is if he gave the rest of them more shots there is no way they win.. Oladipo?? Roberson?? Grant?? Lmao they are the Nets + Westbrook
Victor Oladipo shooting 14 percent is so horrifically bad, words cant describe it. Plus, his PER is 2.5. Dude is the biggest bust of all time, this guy was touted as the next Dwayne Wade from college and hes underachieving. Dont tell me he was good in Orlando, he was in and out of the starting lineup there and hes mediocre
For once, Whitlock is right. Yeah they were losing the lead without their star player but when he came back it would've been easier for them to score cause they'd be focusing their D on Russ so they'd get more open shots. He needed to move the ball.
Seriously, if they make him the MVP, kids will imitate his game more and more, they'd think more about stats than making the right play every time, bad for the future of the NBA, he's fun to watch for sure, but this is not just about physicality and numbers game, it's a cooperative sport. It's not just defense that wins championships but passing too.
Westbrook could be a two ball player but Victor oladipo will need to be a better point , that something okc will have to figure out next years , to go on a big run. Okc is still a good team young team , the third youngest team , should be proud, Westbrook do great things I expected him to still win.
russ is overcriticized. lebron was just down by 26 vs pacers and what happen? they bench kyrie and love for shooters that's something russ doesn't have
westbrook had the single worse 4th quarter ever (shooting the ball so poorly that many times, (4/18)? they lost because of him, thats why okc blew a 3-1 lead last year.
Westbrook the saint does no wrong according to house. Whitlock and the white dude had smart points. House just aggressively cuts them off to slob on westbrook
Nobody else can score? really eddie house? they've beaten the timberwolves without westbrook. ow cause it's the wolves. so? the point is they can score without him cause they aren't worried about westbrook not getting his stats while when westbrook plays they all depended on him and the fact that westbrook dominates the ball so much without getting his teammates on rythm.
OKC just isn't that good. And this game particularly, no one was good all the way through. They need to add pieces and with those, develop the team game/strategy. Relying on Russ to pretty much dictate everything might've still been the right strategy this season and taken them as far as they could've gone, but this is it for now, and long term you need something else.
Westbrook needs to use his teammates...please go to Ballgod's instagram and it shows a video of russ not passing to wide open teammates in the 4th...they are all passes harden would make
Thunder have bad chemistry. Thunder players do not work together, actually they dont know how. I believe the team practice all season to learn how to let westbrook get those triple double. Even the games just before the playoffs against the suns, jeremy grant take contested 3 pointers to let westbrook get the triple double. Thats they work for all season, thats what they get. Win? Forget it....
Eddie knows what's up that guy on the left of him has no clue a player hits 50 pts...where would u team without a player putting up 50 points give him a break geez...Houston has Lou Williams, Beverly,gordon, ariza c'mon man not rocket science
bty eddie house make me sick ! who did play with russ in first half when they have double digit lead ? who are the teammates with russ in the first three quarters? the same guys in last quarter , yes?
let's blame russ because he deserves some of it but can we please blame the coach for not making the right calls during crunch time and can we please blame sam presti who not only traded away players but than has given 3 bad extensions that will make it hard for them to improve in near future. adams, oladipo and kenter all have max or close to max contracts heis 2 guard is shooting 19% in the series so far and got a max extension adams sdince getting paid isn't the same player atleast with kanter he can score maybe they need him to start so he can help russ with scoring blaming russ is fine but look at the bigger picture he goes to the bench with 12 point lead and comes back with 3. all these analysts saying pass the ball well maybe his team mates could have taken care of that lead and knock down some shots to help out
if steve nash won 2 mvps in front of dudes like kobe and shaq, why shouldnt harden win with 29ppg, 11 assist, n 8 rebound a game? and his team is number 3. they always gave the argument your team gotta win a lot, kobe scored 35 a game in 06 playing with even more trash than what wesbrook got now, but because his team was a 7 seed he got robbed. so if harden dont win mvp something is wrong. that tripple double stat they keep throwing is dumb, u got 7 footers that can get rebounds u dont need to spend all that energy jumping chasing rebounds. im sure if harden or guys like lebron tried to go after every re they would get 10 re a game too. the dude team is number 3 and his stats are great too almost like russ stat, harden deserves the mvp.
giving up 12 points is a product of bad defense not just offense. they still had tbe lead, but you have to weather the storm. if Westbrook hits half of the shots hr took in tbe 4th they win by double digits... think about that for a sec
they win, it validates Russ MVP argument because he is carrying this team, they lose a game, Russ got no help, that's why he's deserving of the MVP, no matter what, Russ is MVP, what a joke . . . i guess Harden's not doing much, no?
Smh people aren't putting themselves in Russ shoes, u telling me if u had a 12 point lead in the 3rd wit 2 minutes left and by the time u get a cup of water the lead is cut down to 3 u telling me you still gonna have faith in your teammates Smfh no tf u wouldn't, yea his shots weren't going in but even then they only lost by 4 bet money had he "trusted" his teammates they probably would of lost by 10 or more and y'all still would of blamed Russ Smfh
Anybody else peeped how Westbrook shot the layup at the end to get 51 easily instead of taking the 3 to make it a 3 point game.
Waste his time trying to win?
SuperKool500 He was missing from three in the quarter. Plus, they gave him a wide open lane to the basket, of course he is gonna take it.
likemikegenerationx2
12 seconds down 6 you only have time for 2 shots. Wtf do you mean of course you take it.
It wouldn't matter if they all sat down to let him get the 2. They let him get it because they knew 2 points wouldn't help OKC.
SuperKool500 someone doesn't understand basketball
TheSwagIsBack
He was guaranteed to lose like he did if he settled for 2. He had an 18% chance to make a 3 and give them a chance to put McDermott in for a game saving 3 after that if Houston missed the FTs or messed up on the inbound.
18% will always be better than the 0% chance he had to tie the game with a 2.
I love Westbrook but he has to be held accountable. He messed up in the 4th and they lost. Take that L and keep it moving. Hopefully next game Westbrook plays better and the team steps up
bomberbcm Russ was tired he sits for 2 minutes and they lose the lead explain that
yaboidub They're is nothing to explain his team didn't step up and lost the lead so in the 4th he stopped trusting them to make shots. Westbrook had a bad 4th and they lost. It wasn't all his fault but he needs to shoulder some of the responsibility for it.
bomberbcm
He's lying anyway.
They did not lose the lead. They were still up 1 with 8 Min and Russ was on the floor.
McDermott who shot 80% was wide open in the corner and Russ didn't care. Russ drove, got blocked and turned it over giving up the lead.
MG23 True but bring up 12 points and giving up 11 to me still counts as blowing a lead to me.
MG23 really that's your argument they were still up 1 when the lead goes from 12 to 1 and your response is they were still up 1 😂😂😂😂
So sick of hearing that Westbrook has no teammates argument. It's just not true.
Daniel Wells It's seriously a scapegoat. If they win or do well, Westbrook gets all the credit. And when they do bad, his teammates get all of the blame. It reminds me of how the media treated Kobe before. Except Kobe was a multiple time champion before he got that respect. Westbrook is basically the new media darling.
Colin Cowherd is the only guy out there spitting the facts. When they talk about Russ FG% being bad (like in this game) they want to blame the teammates. But when he was playing with Durant and Harden on contending teams his FG% was no better. Yet they want to act like that didn't happen and just blame he teammates (and the coach) now.
This is so true.
We often see this with his assist numbers. He'll only give up the ball at the last point on the shot-clock when he can no longer find a scoring shot sometimes. So, a teammate is left to try and create a shot, with a few seconds remaining. And if they do, its an assist for Westbrook and he gets credit for it. If it bricks, then everyone else on the team but Westbrook apparently sucks.
Whitlock is right! Can't believe I'm saying this...
yeah same here. now i know anything is possible.
LOL!
waffeltje lmao me too!
Also, Westbrook is not a shooting guard or small forward. He's a point guard. It's his job to distribute and run an offense which he doesn't attempt to do
Beginning of the season, most people were saying Harden and Russ has comparable teams, talent-wise. Now everyone is saying Harden has more help, even before Lou came through. Not Harden's fault he leads his team and gradually made them better through out the season.
for the entire season people have been disrespecting Oladipo and Adams. Oladipo was beginning to be seen as the franchise star in Orlando and Adams after his playoff performance was looking to be one of the best big men in the league. Yet everytime someone talks about OKC it's that Russ has no help. He is supposed to be able to make these guys better as the point guard but now they are dependent on him to do everything because he doesn't allow them to get involved.
Thank you Chris Broussard!!! I been sayin that you need to play Russell at the 2. Thats what he played in high school and college, why can't he play it in the NBA?
He probably refuses
The Notorious G.T.M. Who else is going to handle the ball then
If you think Russ would tolerate someone handling the ball you are delusional. He ballhogged even when KD was on the team
Kyle Cooper Theu can pickup another PG or make Oladipo the point guard, he has played the 1 before.
Prod. Okendo No, he didn't. During the time they played together, KD averaged 17 shots while Westbrook averaged 14 shots. KD also averaged more three point attempts than Westbrook did when they played together. And look at Westbrook's assists numbers. They have constantly hovered around 8-10 assists per game. Its not like he was averaging 3 assists for his career.
I still think he is the MVP, but I think he has to trust his teammates more. He has to learn he cannot do it all by himself.
Sahil Kurup bruh i would have a tough time trusting my teammates giving up a 12 point lead while i sip on water.
I think it's more on his coach keeping all the players who were making shots on bench and keeping Olidipo out there.
My question is, how is the rest of OKC supposed to make shots when they touch the ball every 8 possessions because Russ is playing hero ball?
Eduardo Maldonado well look at the coach before u blame Russ
Eduardo Maldonado ask for the ball like oladipo step up take the ball and set the team up
Eddie House and Chris Broussard are trippin, how do you know anybody doesn't want to shoot it, when they aren't even getting the touches. They miss because Russ just throws it to them with 3 sec. in the shot clock. Of course you're off when you don't touch the ball for 3 or 4 possessions in a row. At one point Russ took 13 straight shots. That's unacceptable. As a role player he should know how those other players felt not getting the touches. And let's not act like the man went like 10 of 18 or 9 of 18, the man went 4 of 18 in ONE QUARTER, 8 or 9 mins to be exact. Stop making excuses. This team hasn't developed because Russ hasn't allowed them too.
narrickcuz let me ask you a question. Have you seen the thunder games this year? I ask for two reasons. 1 because many time throughout the season Russ has over passed to teammates in many games and they lost because they are great shooters. 2 Russ has came in the fourth quarters many times this season and won the game. Of course 18 shots is too many in a quarter, but if you haven't seen the thunder play, you will criticize of course!!
Quinton lovett I get that but some games he hasn't passed enough, I get what you're saying but sometimes you have to go with the flow of the game. Through 3 quarters he played GREAT by going with the flow, by attacking when he had to but also mixing in getting his players involved. But for some reason in the 4th he didn't even try to involve them. And yeah I've seen him come in in 4th quarters in the game but it's different to take that many shots when you hot and got it going, but when you're a leader he should've realized last night that he just didn't have it and then tried to create for his teammates but he never did.
narrickcuz exactly. kanter and adams are stars but when russ jus drives everytime n throws a wild pass if he cant layup then what..
Eddie House is the biggest Westbrook apologist, Westbrook took every shot except one in the last 4 minutes. smh
So many of these folks like Eddy House luv Russ so much that they are afraid to criticize him... he was embarrassing in the 4th quarter...
AstoriaQueens NY lmao how about Russ don't play and see what happens
He cooked all three quarters though. When do people start holding teammates accountable, if your superstar player is keeping you in the game you should feel obligated to step up and knock shots down. Russ drop 51 and a triple, how is he the blame for the lost
Dj Hooper He took 43 shots......4/18 in the 4th. If LBJ did that these same dudes would destroy him
99 PROBL3MS lol LeBron never needs to take that many shots, he's always gone to other talented players.
Charles Khoilan right u watching the game now? he got hella shooters spacing the floor and he living in the paint. russ has no shooters that's why hard to get assists and easier points in the paint.
Too convenient. Praise Russ when they win and blame his team mates when they lose. People keep saying Russ needs more help on offense. Does Russ look, play or sound like someone who wants help when it comes to anything?
The only reason why Steven Adams didn't turn into the star player we thought he would be is because of RUSSEL WESTBROOK
This Russ love affair is insane. And people thought that the Curry bandwagon was bad. First, 33-9 with a triple double. Congratulations, over who? Let's consider first of all that that stat is pure correlation. Do they still lose if he got a double double? We don't know. we just love that he got nice round numbers, so we can't criticise him for being an (impressive) one man show, a poor shot by NBA standards or the coach for giving him the keys and not creating the team.
It's ridiculous that we blame his teammates if they lose, but, if they win, it's all cause of Russ. For the past year, the system at OKC has been, you'll get paid 10 million to sit there and shoot until Russ gets 10 assists, then you're just there to look pretty. How does that develop confidence and rhythm? How does that add in the new pieces and help them develop their game? And if your organisation's motto is Russ is Jesus and then some, who is going to step up and fight with Westbrook about sharing the ball or actually running a play? Do you really think Oladipo, a 4th year player in the league will fight with the franchise player?
I'm tired of people giving Westbrook a pass, If your supposed "leader" takes 18 shot attempts and then 10 shot attempts later starts to pass the ball, your teammates lose their rhythm and lose their confidence because all they're doing is watching Westbrook shoot them out of the game
What they need to do is move Russ to 2 guard and get a solid point guard to handle the ball, it would make their offense so much more efficient
Doug and C.Broussard are the truth. The truth!!!!
Now this is a great panel!!!
Chris broussard is a smart dude.
It didnt matter. Russbrook goes rogue and takes 43 shots they lose. Russ passes the ball instead of taking the shots they still lose.
Mtthew 123 L
Of course blame everyone else when Westbrook is clearly the reason for the loss, but if they win he gets all the credit. Smh
Why has sports journalism turned into The View?
Eddie House is terrible
you're a human who lacks in respect xx
so unnecessary
lol look at this fool, no respect whatsoever, your mom should've give you education
why do they keep saying Russell doesn't share the ball, they always ignore his assist numbers
Chris Broussard has been really flailing lately to justify his Russell Westbrook MVP pick. He knows that his credibility is going to be destroyed if he changes his mind on this. He keeps bringing up that triple double winning percentage stat like it's something great, being one or two assists or rebounds away from a triple double doesn't mean ANYTHING. Just because he got those extra stats doesn't mean that the team is better off because of it. You simply CANNOT be great team when you play this way, nobody is growing on that team. Oladipo and Steven Adams are actually really good players, but their development is being severely stunted by this triple double obsession. OKC has become the Russell Westbrook show, and every other player on that team is just watching him dribble out the clock and get the easy assist. If you think that's worthy of an MVP award, then the NBA is truly dead.
For real bro, i'm starting to dislike him, he can't take facts. Shannon on the other hand i disliked him but i'm liking him more lately because he is factual. Go watch his opinion of this game, nothing but facts.
Yeah, and if you notice Chris can get pretty defensive and annoyed when his opinion is aggressively challenged. The way he talked over and belittled Nick Wright on Undisputed a couple of months ago when he was doing the Jordan/Lebron talk was downright disrespectful and opened my eyes up about this dude's character. I get that Nick isn't the most well liked dude, but that was just rude.
He got his wish to be the man so congrats. He's not a student of the game when it comes to embracing the PG role. Make Donovan play Doug more you're the star. Defenses have to respect his 3ball. Harden pushed and encouraged the Lou trade, open your mouth and scout the same.
Westbrook 3-18 fg in 4th
#MVP
tod bob 4-18*
actually 4-18
tod bob lol want to criticize but can't even get the stats right..lol
Charles Khoilan lmfao
You're right but uh...thats not much better lol
Wouldn't want him on my team, even if we were the worst in the NBA. He doesn't care about his team nor his teammates. Last night , down 6, he decided to go for a two pointer instead of a three, which would have made it a one possession game. Why did he do that? Well he was at 49 points, he sucks at 3s, and he wanted a 50 point game. Hes played like that all season. Only 2 players leave more uncontested shots then Russell Westbrook, and its 2 CENTERS. How? Because instead of guarding the shooter, he'd rather get a head start on getting the rebound, so he can get a triple double. Why do you think good shooting teams like the Warriors always mollywop them? OKC would be doing the team a favor by not making him the future leading vet of the team, because all they will ever be, is a 40 to 50 one and done team.
RedlegFan19 oh what team do u play for again?
Brook wasn't even looking to pass it in that 4th. That is not except-able.
Eddie be tryna act like he got anonymous sources then names a Bulls PG...its obviously Camron Payne RW dancing partner in okc
Oladipo took 14 shots and scored 11. Gordon and Williams took 14 and scored twenty......
OK. Take 43 shots if you're the only option I understand that, but your teammates aren't to blame for you missing 26 shots.
a point gaurd for the bulls... how is that not cameron payne ??
I'm confused because he's been playing like this all year and it's just now getting criticized
You can't say "I am a Westbrook supporter." And have never said anything positive about the dude except I like to watch him play.
Tbh Russell Westbrook in the fourth decided to do everything himself but I don't blame him, he goes on the bench for two minutes and they lose their 12 point lead, tbh I don't blame him at all. Yeah you should trust them, but when they're wack and they let you down before and done so majorly in this game, I don't blame him for playing like that
Nana Dankwah
That makes no sense. The didn't lose the lead it just got smaller. He lost the lead when he got blocked instead of passing to McDermott.
Beyond that what happened when he was on the bench was the result of whoever the PG was not creating anything for anyone.
So Russ jumps in and decides not to create for anyone and that makes sense to you?
Mcdermot was hitting shots made 3 three pointers of 4 tries,in 4 quarter he was open many times,but Wesbrook did not a single time to Mcdermot and choosed go and shoot some wild shot with 2 defenders on him
Lowry vs Bucks in 3 games: 36 min 13 points per game 36% FG 4 assists,3 turnovers this is his best playoffs stats in his career,he ballin out of his mind this offseason compared to his other seasons....
negative. You gotta pass the ball no other way around that. No excuses. it's a team game.
I understand what y'all are saying but it you already do almost everything for the team and you are BALLING...and give them a 12 point lead and u go to the bench and its down to 2 in 2 minutes?? That's frustrating so I can see why he tried to come back and do it all again...some would say he didn't have to but what is he supposed to do? But tbh its no excuse to have that bad of a quarter if our shot is not falling just realise it and mov the ball.
What gets lost in the stats is the fact that Westbrook is the POINT GUARD. He has to orchestrate the offense and that means more than just scoring. Assists and hockey assists are needed too. No he doesn't have the best team around him but he also doesn't help elavate their play either. Allow them to get into some type of rhythm. They need real ball movement and movement off the ball to make the defense work. Donovan needs to do better as well with getting Westbrook open and easier shots. Every team can't drive and kick especially when you don't have shooters. OKC needs to play to the strengths of their personnel. One dimensional offense doesn't work in the playoffs.
Russ be like, I didn't get enough touches lol
that 4th quarter was hard to watch...unbelievable how bad Russ is from 3 he should hire a shooting coach ASAP
I think they're all right. All of them are right. Westbrook has no help. Westbrook shouldn't have gone 4-18. Westbrook was forcing it down the stretch. Donovan has to get some plays for Oladipo. Gotta get him going, bring him out.
kanter and adams are getting paid big money smh
33-9 with a triple double... all that means is more stats usually equals wins. Stop acting like that's a godsend fact
they keep sayin noone else scoring ,but russ always got the ball and turning it over smh...
Luka Djurdjev he only had 4 turnovers wth u talking bout
if harden gets robbed of an mvp award again...........
Matt The Knicks Fan melo overrated he wish he can carry a team like russ nobody wants melo on their team
Martin Hurtado wait hold up, why would melo want to be like a pg??? like atleast say my boy DRose but why melo? hes a sf... and hes so overrated he lead the team in pts, rebs AND asts last year off season ending surgery??? hop off westbrook, he got 11 teammates on his shoulders already
Matt The Knicks Fan if someone will get rob. It should be Westbrook not Harden
Ferdinand San Juan inefficient, stat chasing, 6 seed... yeah no thanks!!! ill take the guy with similar numbers who won more and is more efficient.
Matt The Knicks Fan more efficient? I don't think so. I will take the guy who did something that might no be done again in the history of nba. I hate harden but I salute him for what he has done, but I'll never say any negative things against him. Your words are obviously hating Westbrook.
Russ was the only reason they were in the ball game in the first place. You can't blame him solely for the loss. However, if Russ played the 4th quarter like he played in the first three quarters, moving the ball around, taking good shots and dictating the pace of the game, the Thunder even the series 1-1.
Why are we overrating Russell Westbrook so much, we all know he is a good player, but he's not a "team player", he didn't play well with superstars like Harden or Durant, & now people are complaining he has no help.
Last time I checked, no one in the history of the NBA has won a championship alone, not even Kobe, Jordan or James.
they shouldn't have gotten rid of Cameron Payne
Big Game Eddie house knows what he's talking about..
Westbrook was beating Houston. Westbrook ended up beating the Thunder.
Russ has gone through three allstar players and is working on his second coach. At some point he has to dress down the stylish emperor gear and look in the mirror. I'm not hating on Russ. He has unlimited potential. Champions elevate the play of those around them. He is not a consistent enough shooter to play off the ball. No one is getting him to diminish his role but him. With an ego like his he will have to address his own limitations and adjust accordingly. Russ is painting himself into a corner much like Iverson. He can't win a chip by himself.
I'm the biggest westbrook fan but 4/18 in the fourth quarter??? Give me a break... even Kobe never went this far. This era of basketball man...smh.
The other guys didn't don't even have a chance to take shots in the fourth.
Ricky Rubio for Olidipo. Make it happen. Put russ at the 2
Whitlock is the only honest black sports commentator
OKC need another ballhandler
i watched the whole game. westbrook was bad in the 4th, but the thunder were lost without him.
Harden went from playing the 2 to the 1, Russ need to go from playing the 1 to the 2. His career will improve
Broussard is usually the best when it comes to objectivity but when it comes to westbrook he lets him slide way too often. how in tf do you defend 4-18 in ONE QUARTER which shot his team out the game clearly
That 4th quarter was cringy. Doesn't matter if you love Westbrook or not. Im actually a fan myself. If your teammates have no confidence shooting the ball then either the coaching is slacking or Russel Westbrook was speaking literally when he said his only friend was the basketball.
The thing ppl won't admit is if he gave the rest of them more shots there is no way they win.. Oladipo?? Roberson?? Grant?? Lmao they are the Nets + Westbrook
He went rouge. Gotta hold that L
Take some notes West break did you watch game three of the Pacers cavs? That's what a real triple double looks like
Westbrook didn't move the ball enough, But he gave them looks and they didn't make shots either.
It's crazy how all the NBA players support Russ and the analysts hate him. Just wait till the thunder her a whole off season to build around him.
Victor Oladipo shooting 14 percent is so horrifically bad, words cant describe it. Plus, his PER is 2.5. Dude is the biggest bust of all time, this guy was touted as the next Dwayne Wade from college and hes underachieving. Dont tell me he was good in Orlando, he was in and out of the starting lineup there and hes mediocre
For once, Whitlock is right. Yeah they were losing the lead without their star player but when he came back it would've been easier for them to score cause they'd be focusing their D on Russ so they'd get more open shots. He needed to move the ball.
Seriously, if they make him the MVP, kids will imitate his game more and more, they'd think more about stats than making the right play every time, bad for the future of the NBA, he's fun to watch for sure, but this is not just about physicality and numbers game, it's a cooperative sport. It's not just defense that wins championships but passing too.
Russ 43 shots lool. Check the games where Russ take way less shots and pass more. OKC wins comfortably.
You cant get your own shot if you dont have the ball... Oladipo did pretty good in Orlando with a real point god
Maurquize Walker pretty good on a bad team foh
Russell cannot trust his teammates to make shots
*Russell refuses to trust his teammates to make shots*
The Notorious G.T.M. His teammates refuse to make shots
Rondo was available but everyone ran away from him
I don't say that Westbrook was right but If he took shots or not he'll be criticized anyway
Again excuses for Russ...
Westbrook could be a two ball player but Victor oladipo will need to be a better point , that something okc will have to figure out next years , to go on a big run. Okc is still a good team young team , the third youngest team , should be proud, Westbrook do great things I expected him to still win.
russ is overcriticized. lebron was just down by 26 vs pacers and what happen? they bench kyrie and love for shooters that's something russ doesn't have
I think Okc will win the next 2 but Houston will win in six do u agree ???
westbrook had the single worse 4th quarter ever (shooting the ball so poorly that many times, (4/18)? they lost because of him, thats why okc blew a 3-1 lead last year.
Westbrook the saint does no wrong according to house. Whitlock and the white dude had smart points. House just aggressively cuts them off to slob on westbrook
Nobody else can score? really eddie house? they've beaten the timberwolves without westbrook. ow cause it's the wolves. so? the point is they can score without him cause they aren't worried about westbrook not getting his stats while when westbrook plays they all depended on him and the fact that westbrook dominates the ball so much without getting his teammates on rythm.
OKC just isn't that good. And this game particularly, no one was good all the way through. They need to add pieces and with those, develop the team game/strategy. Relying on Russ to pretty much dictate everything might've still been the right strategy this season and taken them as far as they could've gone, but this is it for now, and long term you need something else.
Westbrook needs to use his teammates...please go to Ballgod's instagram and it shows a video of russ not passing to wide open teammates in the 4th...they are all passes harden would make
he would be definitly be better off the ball
He's only human who else you gonna rely on? Oladipo😑
Thunder have bad chemistry. Thunder players do not work together, actually they dont know how. I believe the team practice all season to learn how to let westbrook get those triple double. Even the games just before the playoffs against the suns, jeremy grant take contested 3 pointers to let westbrook get the triple double. Thats they work for all season, thats what they get. Win? Forget it....
Eddie knows what's up that guy on the left of him has no clue a player hits 50 pts...where would u team without a player putting up 50 points give him a break geez...Houston has Lou Williams, Beverly,gordon, ariza c'mon man not rocket science
These guys want Russ to win the MVP so bad......Put Steph Curry in this discussion and everyone goes 'Steph is just a shooter'...plsssss
he doesnt want any help on offense !! does it could be any more obvious ??
bty eddie house make me sick ! who did play with russ in first half when they have double digit lead ? who are the teammates with russ in the first three quarters? the same guys in last quarter , yes?
most of mvp voters , you voted wrong!!
Billy Donovan is a marginal coach
let's blame russ because he deserves some of it but can we please blame the coach for not making the right calls during crunch time and can we please blame sam presti who not only traded away players but than has given 3 bad extensions that will make it hard for them to improve in near future. adams, oladipo and kenter all have max or close to max contracts
heis 2 guard is shooting 19% in the series so far and got a max extension
adams sdince getting paid isn't the same player
atleast with kanter he can score maybe they need him to start so he can help russ with scoring
blaming russ is fine but look at the bigger picture he goes to the bench with 12 point lead and comes back with 3. all these analysts saying pass the ball well maybe his team mates could have taken care of that lead and knock down some shots to help out
y'all hate Whitlock. he coo
Maybe he is tired!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if steve nash won 2 mvps in front of dudes like kobe and shaq, why shouldnt harden win with 29ppg, 11 assist, n 8 rebound a game? and his team is number 3. they always gave the argument your team gotta win a lot, kobe scored 35 a game in 06 playing with even more trash than what wesbrook got now, but because his team was a 7 seed he got robbed. so if harden dont win mvp something is wrong. that tripple double stat they keep throwing is dumb, u got 7 footers that can get rebounds u dont need to spend all that energy jumping chasing rebounds. im sure if harden or guys like lebron tried to go after every re they would get 10 re a game too. the dude team is number 3 and his stats are great too almost like russ stat, harden deserves the mvp.
giving up 12 points is a product of bad defense not just offense. they still had tbe lead, but you have to weather the storm. if Westbrook hits half of the shots hr took in tbe 4th they win by double digits... think about that for a sec
Let's be real he isn't going to the championship. Let him get his and figure out the rest in the off season
Westbrook only care about his stats. Not MVP
they win, it validates Russ MVP argument because he is carrying this team, they lose a game, Russ got no help, that's why he's deserving of the MVP, no matter what, Russ is MVP, what a joke . . . i guess Harden's not doing much, no?
Smh people aren't putting themselves in Russ shoes, u telling me if u had a 12 point lead in the 3rd wit 2 minutes left and by the time u get a cup of water the lead is cut down to 3 u telling me you still gonna have faith in your teammates Smfh no tf u wouldn't, yea his shots weren't going in but even then they only lost by 4 bet money had he "trusted" his teammates they probably would of lost by 10 or more and y'all still would of blamed Russ Smfh