That's because a lot of things are hidden inside the code, and never properly explained in the game or the wiki. Like initiative. You have to conduct a scientific experiment to deduce what initiative does, without looking inside the game's code.
just imagined all this being real and you just casually seeing your ruler making the most braindead moves while you sitting there thinking about your existence until the enemy shows up because its the first time playing hoi4💀
@@yk_903 for the rest of the world this is lack of ammunition but for the chinese warloads 5 guns for their million soldiers is basically special units
@@adamyoung8289 I think the reason he lost is because of france and Yugoslavia as he is a new player he most likely didn't know that they guaranteed each other and they declared war on him and took him by suprise. Otherwise he would have won 1v1 against Czechoslovakia
@@SafeeDaCruz After an agreement. An agreement that, even in real life, Czechoslovakia could've simply rejected the validity of. Granted, they'd have to face Germany alone and would be blamed for the war, but really, no treaty or declaration or anything like that was preventing Czechoslovakia from defending itself.
Forgot to add the part where you get railed by a minor nation Edit: thanks for all the likes, proves that I'm not the only one that suffered when I began my HOI journey
@@person7246 when I first got the game, I did 1939 start date as Poland, was chaos. Now I have 680 hours and waste my life slaughtering innocent children as Germany when I start ww2
Playing Japan is tough let alone for someone playing HOI4 for the first time :D Island hopping and naval management is tough at the best of times and not helped with the limited fuel Japan has
@@p_filippouz its not a joke but i found out about the spearhead 2 days ago and i started understanding unit organization 1 week ago , sometimes i feel like once you reach 10,000 , you can call yourself "good" xdd
Yeah, I've found the three best starting countries when a player has never played before are USA (unlosable), Britain (AI cannot into Sealion, but actually accomplishing your personal objectives does require some management), or USSR (Actual balance has shifted across updates, but most comfortable of the three for focusing entirely on learning production and ground combat and ignoring naval and air)
My first game as Germany led to me ramming into the Maginite Line over and over until finally I broke through (with starting division templates). Then I invaded Belgium
My first game I speedruned the world war as Poland and fought side by side with the germans and italians in a 2 front war. Also I underestimated what value tanks had. Sadly the save is unreachable after some updates.
Certified Paradox classic I do remember how I needed several hours before I realized that construction time was a thing and factories, in fact, weren't instantly built after clicking on the state.
Seriously? I’m like 10 hours into my first game (well technically 8) and it took me a total of 2 seconds to relieze that, and it took me a total of 1 hour to figure out how to set up frontlines.
@@kylezdancewicz7346I am completely new and started as Finnland. First try was a Desaster, second try I still hold the line strong and in 1941. Let's see how long I can manage.
I still remember when I played Hoi4 for the first time... I’ve been playing since the first version back to 2016, as maybe the only cuban teenager in the whole country back then... I struggled so many times trying to learn how to play this wonderful game... since in those years we did not had the chance to download any kind of RUclips video to help me understand better the game, I had a tough time indeed, but my will to play the game was far stronger I have something to confess too Paradox... since in my country I don’t have the chance to buy your games directly I only Can play it trough pirate versions, I have played every dlc using that method, just waiting it to be available in illegal video games shops here. But I promise that, when I move to a democratic country, I’ll always buy your new DLC with the same joy that all those years has been in my heart. 🥺🙏
I started playing HOI 4 three days ago, and i have to say i actually considered returning the game because its just so complicated. But after watching a few tutorials and getting brutally overtaken i still only know the basics of the army, not mentioning the airforce or the navy.
It's actually pretty simple. It's just math. More attack is better, more consumption is bad, more organization is better...same for airplanes. For Battleships and tanks the most important attribute is armour, for light ships - speed.
yeah, i figured out the basics of ground units, i have no idea how the navy/airplanes work tho. I do really like the technology research / country goals trees, because i can actually see what i wil lget@@alexzero3736
Yeah, take the time to learn all the alt, shift and ctrl click commands in this game, theyre all important and literally nothing teaches you how to use them, I keep finding new commands myself from watching youtubers because there isnt a dedicated video for it Another important one is if you shift click training itll only train recruits/navy/planes to max rank instead of forever, or shift k does it too
I am a person who watched 3 years of hoi4 before actually getting it, and it went quite well. i succesfully formed Hellas as Greece, then i went on doing more stuff. But then i showed hoi4 to my friend. He got his ass kicked by ethiopia IN THE TUTORIAL💀
My first very embarrassing game was I attacked Latvia with the Soviets and I didn’t know how to even assign troops to a general or something so once Latvia got to Moscow I just gave up for awhile lmao
I learned the game playing as Ireland it’s peaceful you can take your time to learn politics and economics When you want to learn military pick small country and try to invade the another country For example play as turkey and invade iraq to the basics And when you get the basics play as Soviet Union to fortify what you learned And when done play as Germany and to get intermediate stuff like tactics… Don’t touche the alies because navy sucks
It’s actually not that bad. If you know decent ship designed and task force blueprints it’s honestly not too difficult. The problem is that it’s just something that everybody forgets about until they feel like they’re done setting everything up, then it’s just annoying and confusing.
Turkey is the greatest place to learn how to defend against an invasion and Naval mechanics. You can hold borders pretty easily because the terrain on the eastern side is just mountains while western side is just a narrow place to attack for invaders. Turkey's biggest weakness is naval invasion because there are tons of places to do naval invasions. So if you don't want a naval invasion to happen, you need to create a strong fleet and Airforce as well as an army to defend as well. Playing Soviet Union is much simple than playing Turkey.
I started yesterday, didn’t know how to use airplanes, navy, and still dont, so now i’m stuck at war with japan fighting over a single river for months.
When the only way to start the game is to actually follow PDX youtubers for several months to be able to understand what's going on and thus being able to do most things needed to win some smaller early conflicts(like surviving as Ethiopia or betraying Japan as Manchukuo).
I feel like choosing Japan is the worst option for a starter player, at the start you already have to deal with remilitarization for an early war with China, wich isn't nearly as easy as the ethiopian war or the start of the second world war for germany, along with this you have to choose between navy or army as you can't make both, and you'll most likely have to deal with USA and UK absolutely demolishing your fleet and naval invading you on the late game, and if Germany doesn't win on the european front it pretty much becomes and endless war since there is no way you're invading both Britain and the US mainland
My dumbass didn’t understand red bubbles and got hella confused why I couldn’t beat Poland in the 1939 start date as Germany. It took about a dozen games before I could take Poland without France and UK sending their entire army into Danzig. Fun times:)
Just got in to hearts of iron and first play through were with friends, I asked so many questions they started yelling at me and I almost fucking cried
Dude i've almost cried a few times from frustration playing this game. Mostly it's when I'm hours into a game when i realize I forgot to do something very critical at the beginning and now I have to restart from the beginning
I remamber my first game I started as Brazil (Don't ask why, to this day i love playing minor fractions) And i remamber how i only researched infantry equipment (i didn't know that you can research other technology's like artyllary) And i remamber when i was out of manpower i thought that building civil factory's going to give me some 😅
Haha, i can relate to this one, i also started playing brazil my first time, i had no idea what i was doing, and i was continuing to attack trough the amazon with no supply while i was fighting argentina.
My friend played Civilization 6 but I played Hoi4. He invited me to play civilization, but I started to win. And when I invited a friend to Hoi4, he learned to play for a week)
best thing of being new to hoi4 is that we can enjoy the chaoticness of non historical, I will miss the day i laughed my bum off to the fourth international vs stalin civil war
i remember playing for the first time as germany before doing tutorial and all i figured out was drawing combat lines across the map until i looked at germanys focus tree and quitting
I was lucky that a slightly more experienced friend introduced me to the game and showed me the ropes. Our games still often end in a disaster, but often enough because we turn historical focuses off and the AI forms the most asinine alliances.
"How did you get so good at this game?" *uniting China as Xibei San Ma for the 30th time with 150 mechanized divisions in 1941* "Oh no, im actually really bad at this game."
my first multiplayer game fascist france allied germany i invaded (democratic) italy (and annexed) i invaded Spain (and annexed)) i was invading portugal when germany declaired war on benelux --------- i annexed Portugal -------- i see i get called to war by germany i say "whatever" and accept about 20 secound later Belgium was the biggest nation on earth
True advice that can help to learn the game when you don't want to watch any tutorial is try a minor nation to learn slowly everything. That's how i learned since you are not overwhelmed with a lot of information
I’m honestly surprised how quick I took to all the games features, of course I’m still a little funky on naval/air combat but for the most part I have a strong grasp of many aspects in only a few days
When you first play : "Build infrastructure 100%. Spam civilian factory. No idea what template mean. Use whatever template you get." When you have experienced : "Why my navy don't defend Singapore? *Navy in London dock...*
I did the tutorial. Started my game as Germany, lost to USSR. Thej started a japan, had forgotten how to transports divs over water and got invaded by China
This voiced lines literally reminded me of RA2💀💀 -build finished -> “ construction completed ” -send bomber to drop a nuke -> “ Kirov reporting “ -deploy light tanks only division -> “ High speed low drag “
I opened the game after getting it yesterday bc I've been watching a bunch of WW2 stuff on Netflix. I clicked around, watched a tutorial for noobs with too much information for a noob, clicked around some more, tried for 2 hours and got the hang on how to move the army groups, i just dont know how to make them attack or do anything else. I have a bunch of ❗️and im pretty sure about 20 years have passed without a single movement. Wish me luck, I'll try again tmr
As one friend said: "It's faster to take over the whole world than to learn how to play HOI 4"
True words
That's because a lot of things are hidden inside the code, and never properly explained in the game or the wiki. Like initiative. You have to conduct a scientific experiment to deduce what initiative does, without looking inside the game's code.
I raise you Victoria
@@lukaobradovic9629Initiative? (Asking as a 700h player)
I have done world conquests in Hoi4 and I don’t know wtf i’m doing
just imagined all this being real and you just casually seeing your ruler making the most braindead moves while you sitting there thinking about your existence until the enemy shows up because its the first time playing hoi4💀
The entire army not having a single gun as the leader cancels production to have millitary factorys.
@@yk_903 for the rest of the world this is lack of ammunition but for the chinese warloads 5 guns for their million soldiers is basically special units
Tsar Nicholas played for 1st time probably
I can relate😅
Sounds like Joe Biden simulator
Demanding sudentenland and losing to Czechoslovkia in a war after being denied was a learning experience for sure
You know what they say, nothing like the mighty Czechoslovakian Army in the world, Czechoslovakia is Number 1.
@@adamyoung8289 I think the reason he lost is because of france and Yugoslavia as he is a new player he most likely didn't know that they guaranteed each other and they declared war on him and took him by suprise. Otherwise he would have won 1v1 against Czechoslovakia
bro, in 1938, Germany straight-up grabbed the Sudetenland and Czechoslovakia after an agreement. did the game just ditch the history books ?
@@SafeeDaCruz After an agreement. An agreement that, even in real life, Czechoslovakia could've simply rejected the validity of.
Granted, they'd have to face Germany alone and would be blamed for the war, but really, no treaty or declaration or anything like that was preventing Czechoslovakia from defending itself.
@@SafeeDaCruz there is something called non-historical mode
I had to look up a walkthrough for the fucking tutorial.
I never beat the tutorial 😞 (I got the game like a week ago)
@@dirhime too (I got 170 hours)
@@YeehawMister me too. (800h but beat *this is going to be lit* achievement)
I'm 2k hours in and never did the tutorial 😂
They gave you guys a tutorial?
Probably would help if the tutorial had been updated since the games release
It has
Wait, there was a tutorial?
@@Daggoth65 yeah I believe its below either multiplayer or settings, you play Italy and it takes you through the most basic of basic mechanics
Now it's been updated! Wooo!
@@Coldtea25That’s why I never learned the game.
Forgot to add the part where you get railed by a minor nation
Edit: thanks for all the likes, proves that I'm not the only one that suffered when I began my HOI journey
its good that you included nation in that sentence.
@@lennard076 nahh 💀
@@lennard076 .
Bro my first time playing I tried germany and couldn’t even take czechoslovakia so I just closed the game and cried on my bed
@@person7246 when I first got the game, I did 1939 start date as Poland, was chaos.
Now I have 680 hours and waste my life slaughtering innocent children as Germany when I start ww2
The first time I played HOI4 was as Poland, and I didn't even know how to move units, so I just sat there and watched Germany devour me
What if the game had a tutorial that explained every single feature thoroughly? Crazy idea, i know.
I don't want to take a college level course to learn how to play HOI
if they could make it like baldur gate 3 tutorial it'll be awesome
It does, there is even short videos since By blood alone
Explained every single feature thoroughly?
Its already an Absolute information overload just reading the tooltips in the current tutorial lol.
@@commandertaco1762college level 😅 you never been to college for medicine then
Playing Japan is tough let alone for someone playing HOI4 for the first time :D
Island hopping and naval management is tough at the best of times and not helped with the limited fuel Japan has
I have 2250 hours in the game and iam mostly better at naval warfare and i suck at everything else because 90% of the hours were Japanese gameplay
@@yosahm691you're probably the only one in the playerbase like this lol
@@p_filippouz its not a joke but i found out about the spearhead 2 days ago and i started understanding unit organization 1 week ago , sometimes i feel like once you reach 10,000 , you can call yourself "good" xdd
Yeah, I've found the three best starting countries when a player has never played before are USA (unlosable), Britain (AI cannot into Sealion, but actually accomplishing your personal objectives does require some management), or USSR (Actual balance has shifted across updates, but most comfortable of the three for focusing entirely on learning production and ground combat and ignoring naval and air)
My first game as Germany led to me ramming into the Maginite Line over and over until finally I broke through (with starting division templates). Then I invaded Belgium
i can imagine casulties and logistics :D
I'm impressed 😂 never ever ever got through the maginot, seen the AI manage it a few times 😂 that's how I used to lose
I got killed by poland trice then i just stared playing sweden
My first ever game I invaded Poland then France then the uk
My first game I speedruned the world war as Poland and fought side by side with the germans and italians in a 2 front war. Also I underestimated what value tanks had. Sadly the save is unreachable after some updates.
Literally me when I play HOI4 for the first time lol
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Japan is one of the hardest nations to play when you are just starting the game
Not much fun in S̶t̶a̶l̶i̶n̶g̶r̶a̶d̶ Chongquing
I played as Japan and i only captured Beijing and western manachuko
@@Nottom5 ngl thats a skill issue
@@walterfonk6287 The one time ever its actuallya skill issue and not someone saying that because they have no better response
What’s the easiest?
“Design your own vehicles!”
Fuck me.
Reminds me of my first game as Italy and lost and became a puppet to Switzerland 💀
Fake comment ? Democrats nearly never puppet
My first game as Italy I lost to Ethiopia because I was sending my militia troops into the mountains to fight with no plan lol.
@@Algernon7pretty much what happened irl
My first game I lost to Poland and got the modern German borders. Then declared on Estonia and got turned democratic...
Bro got Swiss cheesed...
Certified Paradox classic
I do remember how I needed several hours before I realized that construction time was a thing and factories, in fact, weren't instantly built after clicking on the state.
I never knew how to assign generals or deploy divisions
Cities Skylines is the unique Paradox game that you can just play the game without hours of study.
Eu4 is many times more simple
Seriously? I’m like 10 hours into my first game (well technically 8) and it took me a total of 2 seconds to relieze that, and it took me a total of 1 hour to figure out how to set up frontlines.
Took me a thousand hours before a realized what consumer goods was.
When the game takes you 10 minutes to get ready before you even start playing
Isn‘t this like the average paradox experience😂
Finland tip: Never let the soviets past Karelia, otherwise they're unstoppable.
Finland tip, don’t play Finland unless you know what your doing.
@@kylezdancewicz7346I am completely new and started as Finnland. First try was a Desaster, second try I still hold the line strong and in 1941. Let's see how long I can manage.
@@Gaphalor Good job.
i did what no gamer would, and took the tutorial, i can say proudly it did absolutely nothing to help me
I still remember when I played Hoi4 for the first time... I’ve been playing since the first version back to 2016, as maybe the only cuban teenager in the whole country back then... I struggled so many times trying to learn how to play this wonderful game... since in those years we did not had the chance to download any kind of RUclips video to help me understand better the game, I had a tough time indeed, but my will to play the game was far stronger
I have something to confess too Paradox... since in my country I don’t have the chance to buy your games directly I only Can play it trough pirate versions, I have played every dlc using that method, just waiting it to be available in illegal video games shops here.
But I promise that, when I move to a democratic country, I’ll always buy your new DLC with the same joy that all those years has been in my heart. 🥺🙏
Ngl this is actually heartwarming 😊
And hope you get acces to hoi4 love that game
How come you can’t buy the games or download RUclips vids if you’re on RUclips rn tho.?
What is going on in cuba? It's a dictatorship or something? Anyone let me know
@@LegendOfKhaos12 VPN is a thing but downloading sucks
The confusion is the fun part and core part of this entire franchise
I started playing HOI 4 three days ago, and i have to say i actually considered returning the game because its just so complicated. But after watching a few tutorials and getting brutally overtaken i still only know the basics of the army, not mentioning the airforce or the navy.
It's actually pretty simple. It's just math. More attack is better, more consumption is bad, more organization is better...same for airplanes. For Battleships and tanks the most important attribute is armour, for light ships - speed.
yeah, i figured out the basics of ground units, i have no idea how the navy/airplanes work tho. I do really like the technology research / country goals trees, because i can actually see what i wil lget@@alexzero3736
@@alexzero3736??? In sp tanks need soft attack more than anything
@@notbasilcount1059 wtf is your comment
@@alexzero3736 ????
After a thousand hours it really ain't that complicated
I think you just learn which features you can ignore.
@@chrische02 *cough* navy *cough*
@@SupremeRTS Yeah that would be the prime example i guess
I have 600 hours still complicated
You say that like its nothing, 700 years alone is more than an entire month
Today after 200 hours I finally understood how to assign ports for repairs
Yeah, take the time to learn all the alt, shift and ctrl click commands in this game, theyre all important and literally nothing teaches you how to use them, I keep finding new commands myself from watching youtubers because there isnt a dedicated video for it
Another important one is if you shift click training itll only train recruits/navy/planes to max rank instead of forever, or shift k does it too
I hava 300 and i still dont:‘(
I am a person who watched 3 years of hoi4 before actually getting it, and it went quite well. i succesfully formed Hellas as Greece, then i went on doing more stuff. But then i showed hoi4 to my friend. He got his ass kicked by ethiopia IN THE TUTORIAL💀
I am you for the first part. Then.....
@@Nikos-o-gamerhow is your progress mate? I'm trying to play this game for the first time, can u give me some tips? Or any helpful tutorial?
My first very embarrassing game was I attacked Latvia with the Soviets and I didn’t know how to even assign troops to a general or something so once Latvia got to Moscow I just gave up for awhile lmao
Bro, I've been play this for almost 3 years and still figuring the details out.
finishes it all off with the fleet
I learned the game playing as Ireland it’s peaceful you can take your time to learn politics and economics
When you want to learn military pick small country and try to invade the another country
For example play as turkey and invade iraq to the basics
And when you get the basics play as Soviet Union to fortify what you learned
And when done play as Germany and to get intermediate stuff like tactics…
Don’t touche the alies because navy sucks
It’s actually not that bad. If you know decent ship designed and task force blueprints it’s honestly not too difficult. The problem is that it’s just something that everybody forgets about until they feel like they’re done setting everything up, then it’s just annoying and confusing.
Turkey is the greatest place to learn how to defend against an invasion and Naval mechanics. You can hold borders pretty easily because the terrain on the eastern side is just mountains while western side is just a narrow place to attack for invaders. Turkey's biggest weakness is naval invasion because there are tons of places to do naval invasions.
So if you don't want a naval invasion to happen, you need to create a strong fleet and Airforce as well as an army to defend as well. Playing Soviet Union is much simple than playing Turkey.
Playing TNO for the first time: 💀
To those who actually starting to play, i suggest playing on vanilla with no DLC and gradually climb your way up
Bro I literally understood Naval system when I got 3,000 hours
I started yesterday, didn’t know how to use airplanes, navy, and still dont, so now i’m stuck at war with japan fighting over a single river for months.
I advise you to use Italy and train in Ethiopia, with the air force I advise you to spam close air support and air superiority
@@evanglitchvideoproduction9562 yeah, i figured out since italy is the only one to start at war, i’ll probably try that.
When the only way to start the game is to actually follow PDX youtubers for several months to be able to understand what's going on and thus being able to do most things needed to win some smaller early conflicts(like surviving as Ethiopia or betraying Japan as Manchukuo).
I didnt even learned how to move an army in 26 minutes i didnt even knew that 1 and 2 numbers are army
I feel like choosing Japan is the worst option for a starter player, at the start you already have to deal with remilitarization for an early war with China, wich isn't nearly as easy as the ethiopian war or the start of the second world war for germany, along with this you have to choose between navy or army as you can't make both, and you'll most likely have to deal with USA and UK absolutely demolishing your fleet and naval invading you on the late game, and if Germany doesn't win on the european front it pretty much becomes and endless war since there is no way you're invading both Britain and the US mainland
my friend taking over the entire world in 1941 while im preparing to fight my first country:
Me who has played the games since launch, has 2k hours on it. And still has know idea how to navy
Just got into Hoi4 recently, and after 90 hours I can finally say I have have a grasp on most of the mechanics lol
For me it's not about understanding things, but managing them almost all at once.
Did you understand the navy? At 400 hours I just started to
EDIT: After 250 hours I can confidently say I have no idea what I am doing.
petition for a lil guy helping you out like in Stellaris
Even Stellaris is rough starting out, and gets updated and reworked so often that any thorough tutorial will be outdated in a few short months
My dumbass didn’t understand red bubbles and got hella confused why I couldn’t beat Poland in the 1939 start date as Germany. It took about a dozen games before I could take Poland without France and UK sending their entire army into Danzig. Fun times:)
Emperor Takei: "you are made of dumb. Very Stupid"
There's a reason why multiple people have to do just each one of these things in reality
The smartest thing to do is ignore half of these and just make numbers get bigger
Honestly take me back, when every play through for just one nation’s focus took me a week instead of a day
Just got in to hearts of iron and first play through were with friends, I asked so many questions they started yelling at me and I almost fucking cried
🤣🤣
Dude i've almost cried a few times from frustration playing this game. Mostly it's when I'm hours into a game when i realize I forgot to do something very critical at the beginning and now I have to restart from the beginning
I have played for 5 years now and still ignore the navy and spam submarines
I remamber my first game
I started as Brazil
(Don't ask why, to this day i love playing minor fractions)
And i remamber how i only researched infantry equipment (i didn't know that you can research other technology's like artyllary)
And i remamber when i was out of manpower i thought that building civil factory's going to give me some 😅
Haha, i can relate to this one, i also started playing brazil my first time, i had no idea what i was doing, and i was continuing to attack trough the amazon with no supply while i was fighting argentina.
I didn't even know about other research tabs until I watched a youtube video
@@tuureluotonen1631 yeah only infantry equipment
Note: Bro just explained HOI4 in few sentences (..). My pov: HOI4 Pacific Ocean in a nutshell... Also, meanwhile, at the European region: :D
The first time i play hoi4 i tried to play with china in 1939 💀
I don’t know what led you to that decision but that’s tragic
Oh yeah, i remember my first game when i deleted all army and capitulated to France as Germany, just because Italy invaded Greece
Easiest paradox game:
My friend played Civilization 6 but I played Hoi4. He invited me to play civilization, but I started to win. And when I invited a friend to Hoi4, he learned to play for a week)
man fr this literally happened to me and i actually chose japan in my first run
Of all the games from Paradox, HOI 4 is a casual attraction, go to Europa universalis 4 and your brain will explode from the amount of information.
Paradox : Spend time to make a decent tutorial ❌
Paradox : Spend all money and time on 50 dlc ✅
My First Play I Had Been Following Hoi3 Stuff For Many Years And Knew What I Was Getting Into.
This Made Everything Substantially Easier
NAVY NAVY NAVY
First my game was on Hungary, Germany took me.
Second my game was on German… Poland and France divided me…
Just play a public game with people in a vc with you, you will get back seat gamed so hard untill you figure it out
I have 1663 hours in hoi4 and only recently learned how to make more boats
wtf did i just watch ?
Y e s
Correct
exactly
Exactly
*n a v y*
after 2000 hours i can safely say i understand the basics
HOI4 is by far the most beginner unfriendly game I ever played
best thing of being new to hoi4 is that we can enjoy the chaoticness of non historical, I will miss the day i laughed my bum off to the fourth international vs stalin civil war
Its so weird to think that this game was hard at first. Now we can all easily do world conquest with Luxemburg 😂
That's the main reason why I started playing as little weirds who are safe, like tannu-tuwa
As an experienced player half of these things I still don’t strategize
i remember playing for the first time as germany before doing tutorial and all i figured out was drawing combat lines across the map until i looked at germanys focus tree and quitting
I was lucky that a slightly more experienced friend introduced me to the game and showed me the ropes. Our games still often end in a disaster, but often enough because we turn historical focuses off and the AI forms the most asinine alliances.
Me every time I haven't played hoi4 in 15 months
"How did you get so good at this game?"
*uniting China as Xibei San Ma for the 30th time with 150 mechanized divisions in 1941*
"Oh no, im actually really bad at this game."
I'm just happy my friend actually helped figure out how to play the game a few months later now I have close to 100 hours in the game
Took me 3 years to leran navy usage and 1 for propper division building and airforce management fun game when you learn all the mechanicks
I remember playing Germany at the start of the game and lost to holland in about 5 minutes
my first multiplayer game
fascist france
allied germany
i invaded (democratic) italy (and annexed)
i invaded Spain (and annexed))
i was invading portugal when germany declaired war on benelux
---------
i annexed Portugal
--------
i see i get called to war by germany
i say "whatever" and accept
about 20 secound later Belgium was the biggest nation on earth
for me the most confusing was frontlines, battleplans and shit so i just micro all the fronts.
True advice that can help to learn the game when you don't want to watch any tutorial is try a minor nation to learn slowly everything. That's how i learned since you are not overwhelmed with a lot of information
Well, whis is why we love strategy game
I’m honestly surprised how quick I took to all the games features, of course I’m still a little funky on naval/air combat but for the most part I have a strong grasp of many aspects in only a few days
This is how I felt going from Hoi4 to Eu for the first time
When you first play : "Build infrastructure 100%. Spam civilian factory. No idea what template mean. Use whatever template you get."
When you have experienced : "Why my navy don't defend Singapore?
*Navy in London dock...*
I did the tutorial. Started my game as Germany, lost to USSR. Thej started a japan, had forgotten how to transports divs over water and got invaded by China
This voiced lines literally reminded me of RA2💀💀
-build finished -> “ construction completed ”
-send bomber to drop a nuke -> “ Kirov reporting “
-deploy light tanks only division -> “ High speed low drag “
168 hours and I still have no idea wtf im doing.
As a guy who has been playing this game for 6 years and has 2200 hours on it, I still have no idea how the navy works.
But once it starts coming together the game is a fkin blast.
Watched a 3 hour tutorial in parts just to get things down.
i never went trought the game tutorial and it took me a year to understand almost everything and a half more to get kinda good
Coming from Stellaris HOI4 was hard. Still basically learned the game in 50 hours (I even understand how Navy and Millennium Dawn economics work now).
That goddamn supply notification is in my nightmares.
with 40 hours in hoi4 i can agree
I have had the game for a year and im still learning new things and still cant beat soviet union in civil war
Best for new player is vanilla game with no dlc and later buy dlc one by one when you learned how to play with them
I opened the game after getting it yesterday bc I've been watching a bunch of WW2 stuff on Netflix. I clicked around, watched a tutorial for noobs with too much information for a noob, clicked around some more, tried for 2 hours and got the hang on how to move the army groups, i just dont know how to make them attack or do anything else. I have a bunch of ❗️and im pretty sure about 20 years have passed without a single movement. Wish me luck, I'll try again tmr
U have no fuel or u have to build supply hubs ( to supply the units)
As someone who who is trying to learn Victoria 3 I can say that all paradox grand strategy games are like this
my first game i went in blind, i didnt knoe about front lines, i manually justified on austria because i didnt know about focuses and then lost
Never stop adding new stuff
Ahhh
I remember the days when i didn't understand what armies were
I microed the entire eastern front lol
I’m so glad I started it around the first dlc and only had to fuck up one function at a time 🤣
yeah I got drafted by my friends and introduced to stellaris and hoi4 at the same time... the learning curve was brutal. Then I discovered eu4 and ck2
Every HOI IV player that i met when he first time launch EU IV saing words like Joe Pesci from Tales From The Crypt
When I had my first game all I did was justify war goal wait and declare war then move troops to invade, I just did the simple