Photopea - A Free Photoshop Clone
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I was shocked at how good Photopea is. It's a feature for feature copy of Photoshop made to work entirely in the browser. Just by going to www.photopea.com/ you can start using it. I wanted to test it out and see how it was for drawing and it was hit or miss. I was surprised how well it worked on Android, drawing on other platforms was just ok.
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Hi guys, I am the creator of Photopea :) thanks for making this review! Photopea exists since 2013.
You can copy (raster) images between Photopea and other programs. I will look into copying vectors (that is what was done in this video). Also, I will improve the painting with a pressure :)
Websites (like Photopea) can do as much as web browsers allow us to do. We can not use the Ctrl+T shortcut for the Free Transform (all browsers open a new tab in such case), so we came up with Alt+Ctrl+T. Also, we can not access the installed fonts, so we provide a way to load the TTF/OTF files manually.
Thank you for your hard work. A lot of people (myself included) appreciate you giving artists such an alternative.
❤️
Can you make an app for the iPad for drawing with photopea? It would help artists a lot.
Oh it is already. Thanks so much!!!! Still a little picky tho. But the iPad can do it.
Thanks for all your work on this Ivan. It's amazing how well it works in the browser.
"How is this legal?" - Well, the only thing Adobe really owns with regards to Photoshop is the name (via a trademark on the word "Photoshop"), the software code (via copyright over the code itself in binary or source form), and potentially specific features (via patents). It's entirely possible to make a photo editor with similar functionality to Photoshop without infringing upon any proprietary right of Adobe's; otherwise apps like Affinity Photo, Krita, GIMP, or w/e wouldn't be allowed to exist.
Assuming that the creator of Photopea wrote his own image editor (instead of decompiling a cracked version of Photoshop or something) and didn't implement anything that Adobe has a patent on, the only other concern would be "look and feel". There's two ways one could allege infringement: by copyright or by trade dress.
Back in the 1980s there were a wave of copyright lawsuits built around look-and-feel, notably from Apple and Lotus. The former basically stopped when it came out that Bill Gates had kneecapped Apple into basically giving Microsoft the Mac UI. The latter was ruled against as uncopyrightable: the 9th Circuit decided that copying, say, *the entire menu structure* of Lotus 1-2-3 was fine because you can't copyright a method of operation. So *copyright* look-and-feel infringement doesn't have much to stand on.
There is this other thing called "trade dress", however. It's a concept similar in spirit to trademark. I can't make soda and put it into bottles that say "Coca-Cola", because that's a trademark infringement. But I also can't make soda and put it into bottles that are shaped like a Coke bottle - that violates their trade dress. However, it requires that the thing you're alleging trade dress infringement over be actually distinctive and also not a functional aspect of the product. This is also a problem for UI design, because most UI design is either functional (which means it's something you need to patent), or non-distinctive (because UI designers are often following trends).
tl;dr it's legal because the only thing it copied was a UI design, and UI design isn't very well protected. (it's good that it isn't.)
Best reply. That's why a lot of the software nowadays do subscription base so that you get the maintenance side incase of any error files help etc. Similar case with CAD, there's a lot of other software now replacement for the famous and expensive AutoCad.
I’ve been told that the reason Affinity Photo has no ‘select object or person’ thing is actually because Adobe licensed it, if that’s true then definitely moved into the terrain of copyrighting tools and not just UI elements.
@@frostreaper1607 That would be a patent, not a copyright. You could patent, say, a feature that uses machine learning or something to autodetect what parts of an image are what and crop them out. You *cannot* copyright such functionality, and patents expire far quicker than copyright does.
Photopea appears to have that functionality, so they might be infringing on something Adobe owns, but that would then depend upon how the patent was drafted and what functionality they implemented in Photopea.
@@25thKANG There is the matter of AutoDesk maintaining a stranglehold on the .dwg file format, that format's defacto standard status in architecture & engineering planning, and charging a hefty license to companies wanting to encode and even decode the format, which has always struck me as an outrageous situation and not sure how AutoDesk managed to achieve that, even rapacious Adobe hasn't had the gall to to lock up the .psd or .pdf formats.
Seems that someone watched "Pirates of the Silicon Valley"
Dude someone give this person an award
This is good for poor people like me to practice
Give Cloudie a award as well, while at it.
@@ItsMisterBluray whahhh omg lol thanks
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People who can't afford to pay the high prices Adobe wants can now learn or do art without worrying about the cost. As far as I'm concerned Ivan deserves a bloody medal for creating this.
Why would they be able to sue? He didn’t reuse any code or copyright features from Adobe. If he truly made it from the ground up. Then there are no grounds for a lawsuit
the interface is identical?
It's been around for a while so maybe they can't. But it's not like an app like Gimp that works a lot like Photoshop. It's a feature for feature copy. So I am surprised (and glad) it's still around.
@@ChrisChoi123 interface of most browsers is almost identical. You can't copyright the color or layout of the interface. Even the icons are used in multitude of other apps, they are not copyrighted by PS. The interface is no issue in terms of copyright infringement.
UI look and feel isn't protected only source code
Adobe could launch some bogus lawsuits that force the project to fold due to them being unable to afford lawyers as long as Adobe can. Pretty scummy but par for the course for american companies.
This is really mind-blowing. As a JavaScript developer I'm 1000% humbled by Ivan's skills for making this Ps clone. Tons of features you'd think he would leave out are here and exactly where you'd expect them if you know Ps. Simply amazing!...
I am amazed how he saves a big PSD file locally in my device
and opens it quickly when I need it, without the need to upload the large PSD again
I have used this as my main software during lockdown for a digital art class. Kids made some amazing things in it.
I'd love to see those amazing things
Me too😍
is it god
My teacher did aswell
i doubt adobe cares. unless the guy creates a copy of illustrator, premiere, indesign and after effects as well. then adobe will sweats a little
I'd say Illustrator and InDesign is pretty much doable to the creator himself, with the direct example is this Photopea.
However, I think Pr and Ae is quite out of hand for a Web-based application. Those apps need a lot of processing power, couple with source & project management features, in order to work properly.
Also, trying to create a full suit of applications which is somewhat similar to already available one is not a good strategy either.
@@ducpham1478 electron js.
@@ducpham1478 WebAssembly can reach near-native performance these days, and with the upcoming WebGPU API it may just become possible
A copy of those apps, but for linux will make sure i leave windows forever
@@ducpham1478 if FFMPEG WASM makes FFMPEG in the browser possible, not sure what your worry is about performance.
This app is the saving grace of Chromebooks everywhere
Yeah Chrome OS is actually BS
Yeah I use photopea on my Chromebook all the time
@@omanajz That's what I'm going to call it from now on: ChromeBS.
@@sded7126 crying of happiness rn
@@41052 why?
I think Adobe really deserves more and more "tributes" like Photopea.
A “Photopea” version of Illustrator would be awesome.
@@Sanguivore Krita is pretty good
@@xcalium9346 Thanks for the suggestion, mate! I’ll check it out!
@@xcalium9346 Krita is good for art and editing, but it's bad to use on Animation, Krita is really good
@@fictionaddiction4706 If you're a fan of companies charging WAY too much for their products and not even letting you actually own them, more power to ya, bud!
Thanks to Photopea, I learned Photoshop. Amazing creation.
that was my question, can I use to learn photoshop?
@@cristianborenstejn1608 yes you can. It's pretty similar, if not the same interface and features.
“Doubt kills more dreams than failure ever will.” Never doubt yourself
This man did what Adobe couldn’t. Full desktop experience on iPadPro. It’s so close..
It's Samsung Galaxy S7 tab
@@samuraisings5105 I’m talking about Photopea being closer to desktop photoshop than the photoshop app regardless what hardware or OS you’re on. It’s just funny cause iPad Pro users(like me) have been begging for it for so long.
@@charliebrown1006 stop using the shitty ipad pro then, people like you really burn money
@@cupofjoen who uses non Android device anyway
@@xAffan its one of the best and most powerful tablets. go cry about it
“When there’s no cops around, anything’s legal!” - Gruncle Stan
There goes the political agenda...
The internet is a half-mistake
"It's not braking a law of the law don't catch you" - dipper
@george vcelar you really really really had to huh
@george vcelar looks like liberals live in your mind rent free. Kinda pathetic.
"No copyright law in the universe is going to stop me!" - Sonic the Hedgehog
Photoshop screwed themselves after they went to a subscription based service and by not making full retail versions affordable. I don't feel bad for them.
Also I think Krita came first. It's also a photoshop alternative and it looks nearly the same.
So i just came to know about photopea about 2 weeks ago.
My system started having some isssues suddenly, my cad , photoshop and illustrator were hanging after 20 seconds of startup . And all of this happened 2 nights before my final presentation. I was so helpless and was crying and then started searching for alternatives and then photopea came to my rescue. I was actually hopeless but when i started working with this app i found it comfortable for someone whos already worrked on photoshop . To me its like photoshop and illustrator all comibined together .
I just wanna thank the creator a tons for this :)
Photopea também cria vetor? Desculpe, eu não consegui assistir o vídeo porque sou brasileira e entendo bem pouco de inglês. Os comentários tem a opção de tradução
One good piece of advice: I should mention there’s no need to run it in a browser. You can convert the web site via applicationize.me into a desktop app. Toggle on Developer Mode in Google Chrome. Open the Extensions folder. Download the crx.file you created in applicationize.me to your download folder. Now drag and drop the crx. file in Google Extensions. It will now create a desktop app for you to launch. Add a shortcut to your desktop, taskbar or in pin it to your Start menu. You can then launch the program like an app.
There's nothing in Photoshop, app art from file format APIs that is copyrightable. The GUI design is non copyrightable either.
copyright and patents are separate things, and the GUI is likely referenced in patents as an "apparatus" which is absolutely patent-able.
Good to know. I wasn't sure where the line was. Obviously there are a lot of apps that are very similar to Photoshop out there. But I had no idea you could just feature for feature copy it.
@@brokenstyli Yeah GUI definitely can be copyrighted but Photoshop's is probably to simple.
I am glad someone copied them and I won't have to pay that exorbitant price
@@brokenstyli Adobe has patents for software, websites aren't defined as software.
This person is smart business man. Make an appealing product based on an expensive one, make it free and put a bunch of ads.
It has ads? Well there goes my interest. Why not just stick the ads on the website or when you first open the app. Not during a session. Couldn’t imagine how annoying that would be to animate then all of a sudden a ad pops up for every stroke.
@@DrawinskyMoon as long as the average user doesn't feel like its too distracting or intrusive. and it looks like they've done the ad placement correctly since the creators making money off it
Just use ublock origin, supporting free web apps is a choice
@@DrawinskyMoon use ad blocker. Any sane person nowadays do it
@@DrawinskyMoon Stick to Photoshop then or learn how to get rid of ads.
At 2:18 you mention 'uploading" - I'm not certain it's actually uploading vs just "loading" to your browser's localstorage space. From what I can tell, your content stays local and isn't sent to photopea's server.
Yeah, you're totally right. I used the wrong word there.
r/shut
@@codex8797 r/ihavereddit
Thanks for a fantastic video! Now I'm gonna do you a solid.. You have a modal room node that is causing a ringing in your audio. It is somewhere between a G# and an A meaning there is probably a dimention in your space that is roughly between 3.9 and 3.27 meters. If you put some acoustic treatment up on one of those walls you'll kill that ringing. You could also apply a notch EQ to your audio to bring down the node. Set it at between 103-110Hz and reduce it by just enough to mask the ringing.
Keep up the great work!
used this many times to make memes also my friends have used it many times for school projects
A man of great wisdom and experience. i salute you
I have used this a couple of times to edit mockups including smart objects, and it worked pretty well for that. If you only need these functions occasionally, it is a good option.
True!
Mockups (templates) work fine!
I tried a few products mockup (t-shirt, business cards, mugs etc) worked perfectlly fine).
I use this with my Note 10+ and Samsung DeX on an external monitor with a keyboard and mouse. It's amazing having desktop quality software like this effectively on my phone.
Photopea: *exists*
Adobe: have a great day
"how is this legal"
as long as the creator of Photopea doesnt use any code from photoshop, Adobe cant do anything as "photo editing program" isnt something that can be patern or copywrited.. this is also the same reason why microsoft dont sue react OS group for recreating window.
The reason MS doesn't sue React OS is because any pirates trying to use React OS with the intentions of getting a free copy of Windows are getting punished in ways worse than Microsoft could imagine to punish them :-)
@@lukasmax6984 it's just a shame the team can't legally use the leaked source code. Microsoft doesn't support anything older than Windows 8. Let the community maintain it without suing if you really care about open source. I get they might have trouble trying to publish, say, Windows XP under GPL because third party licenses, but maybe not suing helps, just saying.
IP laws are among the worst things in the world.
The craziest thing is that it works in the browser on my Android phone too!
my HS art teacher recommended this program if we didnt want to use photoshop.
Check out GIMP. I use it on my Raspberry Pi 4 instead of Photoshop.
"Photo-pee"?
Could it be "Photo-pe-a" as in Utopia?
Sounds better! :D
That's what I've always called it
Coz his program pees on adobe 😂
Photo-pee-ah. Don't forget the A
Not a clone that needs to be subject of a lawsuit. It is "Reverse Engineering a Product" and that is common practice.
Adobe: "Hmm .. should we sue or acquire."
If Adobe sued him, he could just tweak the interface, change the name, and remove any of their trademarks. Then it's a legitimate free competitor as long as he didn't reverse engineer their code. Most of what Photoshop does is just mathematical, so it's not like there's much they'd have exclusivity too.
I think they should do what the MySQL guys did, sell, then immediately fork.
Likely the intent of the creator to make a sell very easy and compelling
If I was the adobe CEO, which I am not and have no intention of being, I would go down the acquire path, because that would from a functionality standpoint make Photoshop cross platform, and when has that been a bad thing??
If I was Adobe CEO, I would do something for the people and in a totally non profitable way I would acquire it and then slam a wall of monthly fees on it. Now you can use photoshop on your browser just like your regular photoshop! With a nice wall of monthly subscriptions. :)
Most of the Photoshop operations could be done by plethora of Open source Machine vision and image manipulation libraries like OpenCV, AForge or ImageMagick. So yeah, Operations can't be copyrighted.
This is the one app I unblock my ad blocker for. This great work needs to have some revenue. Thanks for showing this review! IvanThank you for helping my workflow!
Yeah, I used their site to edit a receipt online and it was so great! My friends who knew of it still praise me for that including my computer engineering friend who accepted that my work was better and asked me how I did it.😄😅 It saved me.
We used this program for a few years now to teach kids basic digital design and photo editing skills. This is a great PS alternative which allows them to keep using the program after their course ends.
I was informed about this site from one my IT students (around age 13,14) who is interested in Graphic Design
I was studying but I need to see this
Sameee tomorrow I have my sst exams (have revised everything) but I thought it's all done and I grabbed my tab and read this and I thought omg brad cowboy and photopea 😬
Very interesting, while watching I went and tried it on my Note 20 Ultra and was surprised how way it was to jump in and work. No log in or anything, just start a new file. The s Pen works pretty well, pressure sensitivity was there right off the bat. It wasn't as good as a native app but still pretty impressive!
I lost my Adobe license recently, now I find this. So good! Thank youuuu
I knew about this for a long time now and i use this more than photoshop lol.
Dude thanks for sharing this with me. I'll definitely be trying this on the Tab S7+ - Although the lack of a right-click may cause some problems.
I also love the templates included in there - very useful.
Olá. Você gostou de usar o photopea no tab s7?
Good job for Ivan! The crime is the greedy monthly fees that most apps require nowadays
This is impressive.
The original photoshop program must have taken hundreds of programmers to build and you did this all by yourself.
Maybe someone will make a clone of Procreate and open it up to the PC users!
android users plssss
...Just... Use Krita or CSP?
@@miwiarts CSP is very good and I do have it and use it but Procreate has some additional additions that will likely compliment my work flow better.
As for Krita.....no way. Not even worth commenting on.
@@ToddDolce haaaaaa krita is old juice hahahaha it's just tragic.
Pc has way better drawing apps than procreate
I literally got a photoshop youtube ad before this video :D This looks amazing, great work!
Looks good to me, it is good to see Photoshop being challenged and hopefully they will produce even more amazing tools. Hopefully this app will be developed in many other ways such as producing a whole range of type tools or shape tools etc that are not in Photoshop.
my school cancelled their photoshop subscription which was somewhere in the 5 figures and they use this photopea now and it's no problem
Hi Brad I love your tutorials
Maybe can you make a video about using Vectornator? It's complicated as hecc
I've actually been using it for years, it's amazing!
By years I mean 2 plus
This project is around for much longer than 2 years, I checked back at a conversation I had about it when I first found it and that was back in 2017 and I'm pretty sure it wasn't brand new at that point either.
Apparently there was some kind of clickbait article or post somewhere questioning the legality of this, which is just ridiculous. Why should it be illegal?
Adobe is portrait as if they are graciously allowing this to happen, they don't. I'm certain that if they could do anything about it they probably would.
As long as he didn't directly steal any code from adobe there is nothing illegal about making a product with similar or identical features and selling it for less or with a different business model.
Maybe if he copied adobes icons too closely?! ...but even that is questionable, imagine someone would hold the rights to the floppy disk looking save icon, it would entirely defeat the purpose of icons if you couldn't make very similar looking ones.
Same with shortcuts, imagine someone would own the rights to ctrl+C/V/X
Still good video though, I'm just annoyed by this notion from people that Adobe has some kind of right to a software monopoly. If this idea gets normalized enough it will eventually happen.
I am glad someone copied them and I won't have to pay that exorbitant price, thanks for sharing this. Didn't know it existed
I have used photopea on my Samsung tablet forever. Lol don't tell people 🤣 some of us don't want to pay adobe lmao 😂
Brad, your audio needs to be mixed to get rid of that tinny echo. Throw on some headphones with this video and you’ll hear it without even going to max volume. You should be able to fix this in pre or post, depending on your set up (of course pre is better on a mixing board since it means no time wasted after you record).
But I loved the video and very glad it showed up in my primary YT feed without being a subscriber!
This is even blazing fast compared to opening my actual Photoshop just to make quick edits. Big fan of Photopea.
when I was studying photography in year 11(australia) I used this all the time, it is amazing
The guy who create that could literally make his original drawing app or software
Uhm, isnt that what he just did?
@@CorporalFlynnFlyTaggert yeah but something that is more original and rather than browser it's an app or software
@@sheddu8350 seems original to me because its free and he made it on his own and it is available for anyone to use with access to the internet
@@The.sun.chaser yeah but it would be nice if it was software its more easy and many people might know about it
@@sheddu8350 It is an app and software. From wikipedia "A web application (or web app) is application software that runs on a web server, unlike computer-based software programs that are run locally on the operating system (OS) of the device." (Not to be confused with website). It seems it even allows you to run your code inside.
What makes it look unoriginal is the UI.
Pretty sure the reason you can copy from Illustrator into Photoshop directly is because of Adobe Bridge. Copying things like multiple vector parts inside illustrator is not something most OS clipboards were designed to hold.
This person is a legend !
Welcome to the 2000, this thing has been out for a ton of years
I've known about photopea a while now, and I find it very useful when I need/want to edit an image on the go where I don't have my computer with me. It's really great for a web-based free software
He needs to make a version of lightroom as well, because we're all tied to subscriptions to get both LR an PS. Wedding photographers etc would be using both.
This is awesome! Please make an Illustrator one as well!
Hello Brad, I thought you were going to answer that question . . . "How is this legal?" Ha ha, because I want to know. I teach Photoshop at a junior college and when the pandemic hit and our classes went online, someone suggested Photopea. At first I wasn't a fan but when they started loaning students Chromebooks (which of course is incompatible with Photoshop), I quickly became a Photopea fan since they could do pretty much everything in my class on this free software that works on a Chromebook. And believe it or not, it can create Smart Objects and to my surprise, GIF animations. I was actually surprise by how responsive it was in your video. I often have a lot of problems with lag. I mean a brush sometimes just won't move. For that reason I have never once tried to draw with it.
Photopea is not free.
@@flobbie87 The free version itself has all the features.
It does have a paid version. With more Cloud Storage, No Ads, better Support and two times more steps in history.
Flatpak, Snap app, Appimage or what else. I NEED THIS AS STANDALONE version. PLS!
You can download photopea and run it offline in a browser. Tutorial can be found via top-right links in photopea.
This will be useful to use on my mac since I’m too poor to afford the Mac version of the affinity suite. I have it on PC, but my keyboard broke on my Surface Pro 7, so I can only use my 2013 MacBook Air.
I've used this in the past - it's great, but I prefer the local version. Side note / fun fact - I recall be told (many years ago) that Dreamweaver's interface was built in html - so the program you used to create html was built with html.
Omg i love photopea combinating gifs has never been easier
Weeeiii now i can Edit my Photos on my iPad ❤️❤️❤️
I’ve been using it for a while already. It’s a lifesaver.
Man I have no words to thank you! This runs so smooth in my i3. I'm unable to find the camera Raw filter lol. That's the only negative I'd give
Photopea has given me the freedom to do photo manipulation that I only thought Adobe Photoshop has. I never had the privilege of using the program, heck, it's equivalent to our 3 months living expenses. So I'm very thankful to Ivan Kutskir for creating such a free program that I and people who can't afford adobe have a place to be creative on. :)
I hope someone makes a knockoff Illustrator for Android so I can exclusively stay on my s7+ ... or maybe it already exists... somebody please tell me lol
Agree!
Second that
Krita is better than procreate so use that
Nvm you said illustrator mb
@@sugaristhenewwhite I have procreate, but I prefer working on s7+ with Clip Studio Paint.
@@nathaniel972ful oh thats good too
Using photopea since 2018 have very good experience with that since i don't do any advance thing with Photoshop
Thank you sir and you are my inspiration
I use photoshop solely for creating printables for my Etsy store and if there’s a dupe for PS then I’m canceling my plan and trying out Photopea for sure. God bless Ivan.
07:36 Or... It's because you have the 'Smooth' parameter set to 0%.
I love that we got a Adobe ad, In a vídeo of a alternative photoshop
I'd like to know how one guy can do all the coding for this when it took Adobe years to do and a big team of programmers?
It also runs much better than the real one, so it's better for quickly getting the work done 2 minutes before due in the school hallway
In my pc i have smooth lines ( without graphics tablet)
It's an awesome program for personal in-house projects. Good for kids who are tired of usinh basic functions of MS paint.
I've been using that for a year now lol
Thanks for being photoshop's mole bro
Haha
I used Photopea before I bought Photoshop and it almost the same.
My work computer doesn't let me install other apps other than what's on here.
So yeah, this is very helpful. I'll certainly start using it when I need to edit some images next time!
Even if it ain't the best for drawing, I'll be finding good use of this in making memes. >:)
I told ppl about this and they mocked it for being a duplicate of Photoshop, meanwhile they pirate Photoshop... like what??
Thank you Ivan Kutskir 🙏 photopea is amazing
"Photo Pea"?
My guess: "foe - TOE - pee - uh"
Rhymes with utopia.
Just sayin'
The smoothness slider is right there beside the pressure sensitivity toggles
I thank the man because I actually make my video thumbnails with his website since I can't afford Photoshop subscription yet
Man let the creator of the website to make money out of it. This is amazing
@Phillip hanna i know just saying to let the website run/ continue working. No need to be closed. There is room for everyone to eat
We NEED to support the developer!!!
It works on Chromebooks. It was a life saver during the lockdowns for my studios because they couldn’t come to the lab
Gimp and Krita are AD Free, and will do everything PSD will do if you take the time to learn
I'm a designer and our company is kind of cheap with licenses. This application is where we do post process when the others are atm used
Because the designer built it with new code that makes it work on line
Finally something useful for my Students. Thanks for sharing.
If I wanted to use this to do/learn the most come in Photoshop tasks could I? (Follow a Photoshop tutorial step-by-step) I have been I’m looking to learn Photoshop for years, I’ve only ever used other free, Photoshop like, digital design apps. (for years.) So happy to see something like this.
I've been using it for professional stuff the last year. It's amazing.
apps like these make me nostalgic for Oekaki. Photopea looks great! Affinity Photo/Design is missing the ability to create vectors from objects even after all this time, so it's nice finally having an easily accessible program that can do that in my workflow.
That is a pretty cool option, I will try this to see how well it works
totallly legal, is you write all codes from ground up by yourself in your own way. You can do that with windows as well if you like.