Yes. Andrew these are no ones dream house but these are not less than a dream come true for homless. I have seen tents in Victoria Park, downtown. God Help them.
It is very well done and put together for someone needing a home to feel some pride. Will be interesting to see how the site does in future. I assume that the $9.9m price tag contributed by the city is for more than just the construction because it equates to $135k per unit which seems very expensive considering it's a very small basic footprint that would have been produced on a cookie cut modular basis. Perhaps it includes several years of maintenance and support services? I think if this takes off a few more sites can be initiated and then some similar developments that are a bit bigger to cover the $500 to $1000 rental mark perhaps?
@@stefanmuller9653 actually, it's more likely that 100k per unit got wasted on environmental impact studies and bonuses for the contractors (who spent the most funding political campaigns). this is an actual joke, that a cookie cutter tiny home smaller than my bedroom cost as much as a corvette c8. Canadian's are getting completely screwed.
Thank goodness they are finally getting something in the nick of time before winter. I really hope more great solutions like this one are implemented quickly with expediency
It's nice to see that wider services are available as well. As you said, a physical space is not alone enough to tackle such a complex problem. Thanks for continuing to address this problem. I'm sure it's not algorithmically friendly for engagement.
I agree something needs to be done. However it needs to be packaged with training and support programs with aim of eventually getting people out of these units. You mention there are 1200 people on waiting list. If they build 1200 units more, you will certainly see a need for another 1200 units. Need to break cycle. I am really curious about how these units get built when one has a hard time finding anyone to do real estate related work.
They simply need to approve more things being built that are actually affordable. City planners want everything to be 3 bedrooms and large square footage so families can rent them. Almost no attention is paid by society at large to people who live alone. People don't want to pay 1500$ a month just to have a room in a house with strangers. It's totally possible, they can build housing units for less than 50,000$ a unit, but they won't.
I just want to echo what other have really already been saying. We need more of these, but with the expectation that it's a temporary home until they get themselves back up on their feet. Homelessness can happen to anyone and sadly the number of people experiencing homelessness is growing. Let's get some basic financial, life, and social skills in there to help the part of our community that needs it the most
@@OspreyHomeInspection I agree with you that it needs to be temprary however there is nowhere for these homeless folks to go from here. I like that there is some basic monthly rent attached to it depending on what the person can afford. However say you are living there and paying $350 per month or even the top $500, there is nowhere to go from there if you wanted to move out because there are basically no rentals available let alone finding something under $1k per month. There needs to be bigger public or subsidised housing projects that must be built asap where these people can migrate into. I recently visited New York and we stayed right next to the Queensbridge Housing Project. Now this is at a much larger scale with over 3000 units housing about 7,000 people but if you think about it our housing shortage is a lot higher than that. There might be some negative stigma attached to such projects but I felt pretty safe walking through and around it every day to the subway system. The other point to make is that such a project only works when you have good public transport like in this case where a major subway station is right next to it. The government has to choose, either build big housing projects that might be a little ugly or whatever, or stop immigration to allow housing to catch up. You can't have both.
At $9.4m to build the village, and annual operating costs of approx $935,000.00 that the government is projecting, and an average rent at $500.00 for 60 units that's an annual income of $30,000.00. I don't think there's much investment opportunity there lol, It's a non profit program I would say you're already doing your part by paying taxes with how much it costs to keep it running👍
Zoning departments simply need to approve actual affordable housing. Its possible, but most of the expense is caused by government interference to begin with. Canada and California are very similar in that way. They create problems with their policies, but refuse to acknowledge that they caused it and simply move out of the way. Smaller, modest houses can be built for super cheap, and Canada itself has more power to lower the cost of lumber than any country on the planet. They hold all the keys to the solution, but they don't actually want to "solve" the issue because it isnt a probelm to them. Theyre much more concerned with keeping real estate prices high than actually helping people.
It never ceases to surprise me how utterly useless our federal and provincial governments are and how greedy rich Canadians can be. I truly believe Canada desperately needs serious political reform.
Do you think this was a good move?
Yes.
Andrew these are no ones dream house but these are not less than a dream come true for homless. I have seen tents in Victoria Park, downtown. God Help them.
It is very well done and put together for someone needing a home to feel some pride. Will be interesting to see how the site does in future.
I assume that the $9.9m price tag contributed by the city is for more than just the construction because it equates to $135k per unit which seems very expensive considering it's a very small basic footprint that would have been produced on a cookie cut modular basis. Perhaps it includes several years of maintenance and support services?
I think if this takes off a few more sites can be initiated and then some similar developments that are a bit bigger to cover the $500 to $1000 rental mark perhaps?
Maybe a hotel or motel to convert would be a solution too and much faster than tiny houses ❤
@@stefanmuller9653 actually, it's more likely that 100k per unit got wasted on environmental impact studies and bonuses for the contractors (who spent the most funding political campaigns). this is an actual joke, that a cookie cutter tiny home smaller than my bedroom cost as much as a corvette c8. Canadian's are getting completely screwed.
Definitely a good start.
Lovely that it is a community not just a short term “ temporary shelter “ wrapped around services absolutely needed. Hats off to you
Thank goodness they are finally getting something in the nick of time before winter. I really hope more great solutions like this one are implemented quickly with expediency
We need more of these for the homeless. Our Nova Scotia winters are rough, and being homeless too, nobody should have to live like that.
This needs to happen in ALL Communities! Having a home to be safe in IS A FONDAMENTAL right! The government needs to step up for it's population.
It's nice to see that wider services are available as well. As you said, a physical space is not alone enough to tackle such a complex problem. Thanks for continuing to address this problem. I'm sure it's not algorithmically friendly for engagement.
Yeah they should scale it up and get some kind of community gardens going in them also so people can grow some food too
I think this is a good effort for addressing homelessness in HRM. and hopefully we'll see another set built at sometime in the hot so distance future.
I agree something needs to be done. However it needs to be packaged with training and support programs with aim of eventually getting people out of these units. You mention there are 1200 people on waiting list. If they build 1200 units more, you will certainly see a need for another 1200 units. Need to break cycle. I am really curious about how these units get built when one has a hard time finding anyone to do real estate related work.
They simply need to approve more things being built that are actually affordable. City planners want everything to be 3 bedrooms and large square footage so families can rent them. Almost no attention is paid by society at large to people who live alone. People don't want to pay 1500$ a month just to have a room in a house with strangers. It's totally possible, they can build housing units for less than 50,000$ a unit, but they won't.
I just want to echo what other have really already been saying. We need more of these, but with the expectation that it's a temporary home until they get themselves back up on their feet. Homelessness can happen to anyone and sadly the number of people experiencing homelessness is growing. Let's get some basic financial, life, and social skills in there to help the part of our community that needs it the most
@@OspreyHomeInspection I agree with you that it needs to be temprary however there is nowhere for these homeless folks to go from here. I like that there is some basic monthly rent attached to it depending on what the person can afford. However say you are living there and paying $350 per month or even the top $500, there is nowhere to go from there if you wanted to move out because there are basically no rentals available let alone finding something under $1k per month.
There needs to be bigger public or subsidised housing projects that must be built asap where these people can migrate into.
I recently visited New York and we stayed right next to the Queensbridge Housing Project. Now this is at a much larger scale with over 3000 units housing about 7,000 people but if you think about it our housing shortage is a lot higher than that. There might be some negative stigma attached to such projects but I felt pretty safe walking through and around it every day to the subway system. The other point to make is that such a project only works when you have good public transport like in this case where a major subway station is right next to it.
The government has to choose, either build big housing projects that might be a little ugly or whatever, or stop immigration to allow housing to catch up. You can't have both.
So if someone is interested to invest in this community, os that opportunity available?
At $9.4m to build the village, and annual operating costs of approx $935,000.00 that the government is projecting, and an average rent at $500.00 for 60 units that's an annual income of $30,000.00. I don't think there's much investment opportunity there lol, It's a non profit program I would say you're already doing your part by paying taxes with how much it costs to keep it running👍
Zoning departments simply need to approve actual affordable housing. Its possible, but most of the expense is caused by government interference to begin with. Canada and California are very similar in that way. They create problems with their policies, but refuse to acknowledge that they caused it and simply move out of the way. Smaller, modest houses can be built for super cheap, and Canada itself has more power to lower the cost of lumber than any country on the planet. They hold all the keys to the solution, but they don't actually want to "solve" the issue because it isnt a probelm to them. Theyre much more concerned with keeping real estate prices high than actually helping people.
Why isn't the United way...doing it in all provinces
It never ceases to surprise me how utterly useless our federal and provincial governments are and how greedy rich Canadians can be. I truly believe Canada desperately needs serious political reform.