I can confirm that that LG V60 DOES take a 1TB Micro SD card. I purchased a NIB LG V60 off ebay a week ago and also a 1TB Sandisk card and it works perfectly.
È inutile che un dispositivo accetti micro SD da 1Tb, bisogna vedere quanti file Flac o MP3 è in grado di gestire dividendoli per Autore, Titolo traccia, Album, Genere, se cataloga correttamente per titolo di traccia per numero della traccia o in ordine alfabetico. Molti lettori non leggono più di 15000 tracce, altri arrivano a 20000, altri li superano. Questi, quante tracce vedono?
Pretty much exactly what I've been searching the internet for the last few days. Subbed and liked. Thanks for this. I might pick up an LG V20 but my understanding is the quad DAC is the same and it has a easily replaceable battery. Cheers man.
LG v20 is now aging with quad core V60 is snappy still better than many phones over last few years still 64mp camera and headphones jack its 3d and q DAC makes it worth buying over a cheaper DAC
I also have the sony and the v60. I only use the 4.4 on the sony and dont get any hiss with my gear so far with my empire ears legend x or campfire audio honeydew. Sound stage is wider on the sony and thats a major difference to me. V60 can compensate with 3d audio on. The sony has warmth and more note weight. It only shows up in some tracks because recordings can vary, and the style of music may not make it matter. V60 way faster and way better screen. People forget the v60 came out as a flagship phone and cost 800$. The fact its a phone and was massed produced made it depreciate when dap manufacturers dont do that. I agree the value is with the v60 if you can still get one. V60 is way more portable. The difference is only noticeable to me because i have the luxury of having multiple daps. V60 is a safe rec and yes i can say it does take 1tb. I am currently using the moondrop miad 01 as my daily
I haven't tried the 4.4mm but all of my IEMS (Fiio JD7, FH3, Ziigaat Doscinco, Thieaudio Hype 4) on every Sony device I have there is a noise floor. They aren't massively sensitive IEMs either like the Campfire Audio Andromedas. The LG-V60 is silent. On some tracks the soundstage sounded wider, on others not and on some I really couldn't hear a difference. It varied.
Hi how are you? Just Wondering have you use any Fiio Earphone and what do you think of FH3 & FH5s please? I heard about Fiio first and now moon drop .. Not sure which brand and model to buy .. Thanks a lot!
Thank you so much for this video. the information you provided here is amazing! Too many people tried to hide this fact and i feel like you blew the doors off of the craziness that are DAPS. Too much money for a lower spec device, just get the v60. I use mine with the M15i or the iFi go bar, both of which sound great paired with this phone!
Kind of defeats the whole buying the V60 to play music. His point is you don't need anything else like a dongle to get quality music playback. The dongle bypasses the internals and takes over how it sounds and it will drain the battery faster.
I use LG V30 which is also fitted with quad DAC merely a DAP. I turn on its flight mood whenever I play and enjoy it's music which I downloaded from Apple Music. It gives a cleaner sound with no interference when playing music with the flight mood turned on.
for 17.5 years i've used my ipod and all that time i think the ipod is the holy grail of music player, untill i get my self LG V20, that damn phone that draged me to this rabbit hole and drain my account.
I still use the iPod classic as the battery life can't be beaten when I flashed and 2k plus battery installed Lgv20 using a 6400mah and LG v60 still using its old 5k battery all can power hd650s and most items iPod is perfect size capacity is 1.2TB with 40k song from mp2 to 24.bit using transport to o AVR to play at 24 bit . I can't transport LG v20 or v60 like iPod I have been looking for a dap ibasso dx 170 180 or shanking m5U but iPods battery beats all
Which version of the V60 works in Europe? From which buyer did you bought it? AliExpress or eBay? Would really appreciate to know which version of the V60 to buy...
It would be great if you can get a hold of onix overture xm5. I got it recently after I heard no improvements in sound from my questyle cma18 in comparison to my dc elite. I wanted to get it because I started going back to usability and ergonomy. Overture has great build, volume knob position and usability, and top placed buttons - really practical on the go, easier to click buttons and volume. Not very cheap but at least I was getting a small chunk of metal, without android, which sounds (almost) the same as other devices but it is much more practical
Thank you for showing us this review it's refreshing to see you give your true opinion of these players and opening people's eyes to the money these companies are extracting out of our wallets and showing us a affordable player as well, keep up the good work !
I only have an LG V50 ThinQ 5G and an old flagship Sony XBA-40 Quad Balanced Armature IEM. And i can definitely say with confidence that they sound absolutely amazing for flac EDM music!
Having lived with a LG V20 and a V40 my experience is the sound is great... until the headphone jack starts to play up, which happened all too quickly on both phones. So now I use wireless headphones, which defeats the LG's DAC.
Check your 3.5 jack, it may be clogged with dust. It happened to my V20, V40 and also on V60. Use a niddle or something like that to clean it. I did it and it is like new. This can also happen with the charging port, causing it not to fast charge. After cleaning it it worked grwat. So, if you have the chance, give this a go.
@@PerputuallyCensored nope, you can see multiple people have this issue on reddit, its a software bug with the hifi. i found a solution already, plug in the wire first, then plug it into the headphones, for some reason this fixes the dacs volume output
An Awesome device. Still using as a daily driver. Actually have 3 of them used in rotation along with a V20. All have awesome DAC's but I give My V20 the edge over the V60's. Not by a whole lot though. It just seems to have a better tuning and separation. It's also the B&O variant, might have something to do with it. The V20 has the ESS Sabre 9218 on board. Raw and unhindered by any DSP options. The V60 has the newer ESS Sabre 9219 onboard. This one has a few DSP options to re-shape the sound signature. I keep mine set to the "Short Filter, and the "Bass" sound preset. Onboard EQ is set to flat. Poweramp handles everything else. I use a custom 12 band parametric EQ. Sony MDR's or Soundmagic E80c's are My current favorites to listen on. So clear and wide open it's like I'm right there and not even wearing anything over My ears
agree.. LG v60 has a really good sound and you sould try for a bluetooth speaker no other DAP can sound so clear and clean like V60 testing it with the very same FLAC file and with same LDAC codec
I'm sorry for asking, as it might've been covered in the video, but for how long does LG-V60 battery last? Wifi Off, bluetooth Off. Playing flac files from a MicroSD card.
i also have the v60, and with everything off this thing lasts for like 40hrs. its a champ. i use mine with the ifi go bar and the Questyle m15i and they sound Amazing also with the 1tb card
Yeah it seems like the only thing that the FiiO has going for it, is the system wide EQ and the 2nd power-in to preserve the battery. Maybe the high-power output for high impedance headphones, would be another point for the FiiO.
The iss is due to the fact that I dknt think sony has low gain options. Because if the impedance of the iem. If it's low then noise floor will come . You need a player with a low gain option
please reply in need help urgently. I bought SanDisk 512gb SD card and it's working in my other phone with is xiaomi but not working for my lg v60 uw (vm600c) file system Sdcardfs. the file system of the SD card is exfat. how can I fix this. I've tried several SD card it's same thing. it's not working on the LG v60 but working in other phones
Definitely. I have the eva version because I love the colors and hiby eq and stuff but the screen is horrible and I can't really hear a difference other than the EQ and other things that are good about it. I don't regret getting the r4 though
Not really. If a device has a high noise floor, like the Sony, you can’t make it disappear. Every single IEM I have tried on a Sony DAP has a noise floor. It is the DAP, not the IEM.
I had V60 and sold it for it was not a convenient device. I need physical buttons. V60 has an extra button. But reprogramming it requires buying an app, putting device into a debug mode, etc. So, for me a proper DAP, even a simple one, is much better. On the go. At home, I have stationary DAC connected to a computer. Even Moondrop MIAD01 still has just the regular phone buttons. A pity.
Just wanted to point out that when you're talking about noise floor you can't really assess this without music playing. Some of these devices mute/disconnect the headphone output completely when no signal is being played. You cant hear hiss because the output is disabled. Reason why sony hisses is that it apparently doesn't mute the headphone out.
I can't speak about the g8. Bit perfect is available via the native Music player app or a third party like Fiio Music, Hiby Music, USB Audio Player Pro on the V60.
To me, the whole point of portable HI-FI is the ability to use streaming as well as recorded music on the go. Meaning listening to music streamed from the servers of such services as Tidal, Amazon Music or Spotify, etc. totally independent of my WI-FI router when I am out and about. I like to discover new music which is offered instantly and automatically by these streaming services, not only listen to music which I previously downloaded. Therefore, the best portable solution for me is either a smartphone with a high quality DAC/AMP built-in or a smartphone + portable DAC/AMP. DAPs are not matching this purpose fully. The key phrase to achieve all this here is: unlimited cellular data plan.
Can't comment on specific ohm numbers but the V60 drives my Hype 4s well. You can go look up what ohm the Thieaudio Hype 4 is to answer your questions. They require the most power of all my IEMs.
I have both the V60 and the V20. I use the V60 as a daily driver, but I promise you that the V20 is significantly better than the V60. I use the V20 as a DAP at home.
what makes it better? I am trying to see which is the best sounding of the lg v series. I have a v50 v30 and a v60 but I mostly use them for taking pics and video for ebay. I have a sony dap that I am about to sell and maybe get another lg
@@Shinigami7of1 I am talking about music fidelity. I use various earphones and headphones as well as a THX certified headphone amp to boost my planar headphones. I also swear by usb audio player pro. This allows direct DAC playback. The V60 is very good, but the V20 has an additional level of texture to my ears.
@@123benley I only use wired headphones of a decent quality and Tidal. Wireless-bluetooth and Spotify are both considerably lower quality and would sound similar on both phones.
I have a Sony NW-WM1A. I think I'm going to sell it and get another v60. since I was eyeing the mark 2 of the sony but I can get a v60 for about 100.00 so I might do that. Does anyone know which lg v series actually sound better and why?
@@PerputuallyCensored I had one before but didn't know about the audio quality at the time. I just used it as a phone. I sold it years ago but I think I will get another.
The daps can plug into other audio equipment ie used as a transport with thenm to play your media from with a better op amp and balanced output It works as q DAC amp from a PC too That the LG V60 cannot do . But LG v60 has faster CPU it's a lot slicker user interface better streaming from RUclips videos has a camera since it is a phone with a 3.5mm so no balanced hp out it lacks a USB audio DAC for hooking up to PC or hifi But is great as a dap out and about with iems can drive 300 Ohm headphones can run anything android app related. Has wireless charging. It's just an all in one device it's only downfall it lack of LG 5k mah battery replacement available
Cheap option also is iPod classic a 30 pin to USB female cable oppo Ha2 and HD650s that you cannot turn to full power on iPod and oppo HA2 or you will go dead.
Get your protective gear ready, my man. The audiophile inquisition will be gunning for you again. In my case, I use an LG V20 as a dap, and I'm happy with it. No rabbit holes for me.
Answering your question directly, yes I do. However, I can only speak for myself on specific equipment that I have used but let's say that I am sceptical. I would love to see these people put out blind A/B tests regarding their claims. They never do, which is telling.
Lgs for life I stream alot through an older lg phone..Sounds great! I've never understood the acalades , sony products get! I think there a bit / alot / overated....xpensive too!
@@PerputuallyCensoredit’ll actually reduce the noise floor. Which you mentioned in the video. It’s measurable btw not subjective. I’ve never heard a noise floor on a dap with a balanced connection because they’re all designed for balanced. The SE is the flaw - the exception would be SET tube amps and chord products because they use a pulse array dac which is inherently SE, so the converse would be true if chord added a balanced out. Incidentally you get better channel separation, and dynamic range with balanced. Also entirely measurable to prove it
@@MrColdchillin81 You're projecting your experiences with completely different devices/equipment onto me. It is irrelevant and non applicable. Why you guys repeatedly do this is a mystery to me. It is really odd. I'll repeat, other than volume I have heard zero differences between 4.4 and 3.3 on every device I have tried.
Dude no it is NOT ON PAR. i literally have owned SEVERAL of these devices and the power output isnt ANYWHERE NEAR with the output of devices like fiio, ibasso, A&K, etc....I can prove this in a second in a 30 second video, it is apparent that a good dedicated dap is much more powerful than a consumer phone. My fiio m23 can literally make you go deaf if you arent careful, my v60 can barely drive over ear headphones. The v60 might be good for very sensitive IEMs but not in the same field as a dedicated DAP.
I never mentioned over ear headphones, you did. I don't use them so I don't care. I don't care about the ability to drive over ears either. Once again, someone projecting their opinions onto me for things that were and are irrelevant to my video. Even my title states that I am talking about sound and you still wrote that comment.
Utter nonsense. There is a vast difference. Even the Fiio BTR15 offers substantially better sound, more solid and thumpy bass, cleaner highs, imaging. I have a V60 which is my main phone which I've had for years. Certainly a great-sounding phone output compared to your standard mobile or laptop phone jack. But an external DAC is no match, and that's even with tricks like using a short extender to trick it into high-output mode before plugging in the headphone. For one, the V60 driving the aux input on my car, it is **VERY** noisy and unusably so when charging from a 12v USB adapter.... and that noise imparts a haze on the sound. In comparison the Fiio BTR15 sounds night-and-day better, much quieter, no haze. The Fiio M23 (which I just returned) sounds even better, even more punchy on the bass, and has the advantage of allowing the PO output to be set as a line-out, as opposed to the futzing and occasional-danger of ear-blast in having to adjust the volume control on BTR15. And its battery lasts long enough that it can self-power for most car-trips, avoiding noise from 12v USB charging --- and leave the mobile phone running maps plugged in and charging, with all the 5G, GPS and charging noise completely uncoupled from my aux input. For headphones it's the same: BTR15 sounds substantially better with hidisz MP145, Truthear Nova, or Sundara. M23 sounds even more powerful and punchy, which is especially noticeable on the Sundara. The V60 simply doesn't have enough power to properly drive the HifiMan Sundara. The improvement on sound delivered by the M23 gets turned up to 11, and overall is less fatiguing and more pleasant and clearer high-end.
Your comment is stupid on multiple levels, that I have already covered in other videos. Because you're probably not bright enough to work it out I'll help you a bit here... Projecting your experience, with completely different equipment/different use case etc, onto me is as moronic as it is pointless. My video is over 20 minutes and contains quite a lot of things so when you say "Utter nonsense" you need to refer to something specific. I could go on and on...
this sony devices are a joke and any other music player that has sound issues floor noise, they say cellphones are bad for music but i never experienced any noise from a phone and a music player that is made specially for music has noise problems is unbelievable
so what about all the audio format specs ? the LG-V60 can perform as good as a dap? than i makes no sense to get a dap at this point? im trying to buy my first dap mainly for the storage i have an iphone and i dont have much storage i have a lot of flac files on my pc . im trying to understand what would be the difference
Sorry to say but if you can not identify and describe the sound difference between these daps it is maybe better not to review this kind of devices. You have had and reviewed very intresting products from dap midrange area but without SQ it is very dissapoiting and time lost watching all these reviews. At least for me. Maybe others are intrested which one is bigger or has brighter screen.
No offence at all, I think the V60 is fantastic but it doesnt perform better in transients and depth than those DAPs. But add an I basso D16 Taipan to this then yes, for sure a flagship Dap killer. But jot as it is. Sorry, brother.
Very misleading to call the v60 a $200 device. It's a $700 device that we're getting for 200 dollars refurbished, ONLY because of the special circumstances of LG mobile shutting down. Unfair to point out the price difference this way.
so what, most daps are stupidly overpriced and only affordable if you get them used if you can get it for a lower price, it is worth mentioning it is not hard finding an LG phone for as low as $100 if it's a V20 that is a real world scenario if he was basing it off of some lucky price that he got off of a 1 of a kind action, then I'd agree with you
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I can confirm that that LG V60 DOES take a 1TB Micro SD card. I purchased a NIB LG V60 off ebay a week ago and also a 1TB Sandisk card and it works perfectly.
È inutile che un dispositivo accetti micro SD da 1Tb, bisogna vedere quanti file Flac o MP3 è in grado di gestire dividendoli per Autore, Titolo traccia, Album, Genere, se cataloga correttamente per titolo di traccia per numero della traccia o in ordine alfabetico. Molti lettori non leggono più di 15000 tracce, altri arrivano a 20000, altri li superano. Questi, quante tracce vedono?
I think most LG V phones Takes up to 2TB Micro-SD when they release
They are supposed to but the SanDisk 1.5 tb works
From which buyer on eBay? And which version works in Europe?
Pretty much exactly what I've been searching the internet for the last few days. Subbed and liked. Thanks for this. I might pick up an LG V20 but my understanding is the quad DAC is the same and it has a easily replaceable battery. Cheers man.
And takes a 1tb card like a champ still works flawlessly on my v20
Don't LG V20 doesn't have food battery life as LG V60
LG v20 is now aging with quad core
V60 is snappy still better than many phones over last few years still 64mp camera and headphones jack its 3d and q DAC makes it worth buying over a cheaper DAC
im new to all this audio stuff but brought a lg v60 after your review great phone
Very sad that lg stopped producing phones
I also have the sony and the v60. I only use the 4.4 on the sony and dont get any hiss with my gear so far with my empire ears legend x or campfire audio honeydew. Sound stage is wider on the sony and thats a major difference to me. V60 can compensate with 3d audio on. The sony has warmth and more note weight. It only shows up in some tracks because recordings can vary, and the style of music may not make it matter. V60 way faster and way better screen. People forget the v60 came out as a flagship phone and cost 800$. The fact its a phone and was massed produced made it depreciate when dap manufacturers dont do that. I agree the value is with the v60 if you can still get one. V60 is way more portable. The difference is only noticeable to me because i have the luxury of having multiple daps. V60 is a safe rec and yes i can say it does take 1tb. I am currently using the moondrop miad 01 as my daily
I haven't tried the 4.4mm but all of my IEMS (Fiio JD7, FH3, Ziigaat Doscinco, Thieaudio Hype 4) on every Sony device I have there is a noise floor. They aren't massively sensitive IEMs either like the Campfire Audio Andromedas. The LG-V60 is silent. On some tracks the soundstage sounded wider, on others not and on some I really couldn't hear a difference. It varied.
Hi how are you? Just Wondering have you use any Fiio Earphone and what do you think of FH3 & FH5s please? I heard about Fiio first and now moon drop .. Not sure which brand and model to buy .. Thanks a lot!
Thank you so much for this video. the information you provided here is amazing! Too many people tried to hide this fact and i feel like you blew the doors off of the craziness that are DAPS. Too much money for a lower spec device, just get the v60. I use mine with the M15i or the iFi go bar, both of which sound great paired with this phone!
Do you use m15i and ifi bar as a dongle to the v60?
Kind of defeats the whole buying the V60 to play music. His point is you don't need anything else like a dongle to get quality music playback. The dongle bypasses the internals and takes over how it sounds and it will drain the battery faster.
I use LG V30 which is also fitted with quad DAC merely a DAP. I turn on its flight mood whenever I play and enjoy it's music which I downloaded from Apple Music. It gives a cleaner sound with no interference when playing music with the flight mood turned on.
Flight mood
for 17.5 years i've used my ipod and all that time i think the ipod is the holy grail of music player, untill i get my self LG V20, that damn phone that draged me to this rabbit hole and drain my account.
I still use the iPod classic as the battery life can't be beaten when I flashed and 2k plus battery installed
Lgv20 using a 6400mah and LG v60 still using its old 5k battery all can power hd650s and most items iPod is perfect size capacity is 1.2TB with 40k song from mp2 to 24.bit using transport to o AVR to play at 24 bit .
I can't transport LG v20 or v60 like iPod I have been looking for a dap ibasso dx 170 180 or shanking m5U but iPods battery beats all
Which version of the V60 works in Europe? From which buyer did you bought it? AliExpress or eBay? Would really appreciate to know which version of the V60 to buy...
What about LG wing as a DAP!?
have you tried them with high impedence headphones .quad Dac does not kick in unless headphone is 50 ohm. Or higher?
Can the LG V60 provide enough power for full size headphones like Senn HD650 or HifiMan's Ortoplannars?
Not sure about the V60 but I have a V50 which drives my Beyerdynamic DT990 250 ohm pros fine.
It would be great if you can get a hold of onix overture xm5. I got it recently after I heard no improvements in sound from my questyle cma18 in comparison to my dc elite. I wanted to get it because I started going back to usability and ergonomy. Overture has great build, volume knob position and usability, and top placed buttons - really practical on the go, easier to click buttons and volume. Not very cheap but at least I was getting a small chunk of metal, without android, which sounds (almost) the same as other devices but it is much more practical
If you should choose between them , which one to pick up!? Also putting the M15s as well. Which one is the best choice?
Thank you for showing us this review it's refreshing to see you give your true opinion of these players and opening people's eyes to the money these companies are extracting out of our wallets and showing us a affordable player as well, keep up the good work !
how V60 competes against the likes of Miad 01 from moondrop???
It lack 4.4 balanced.
But phone wise it's much better better processor faster great screen better camera great fingerprint reader can run 300 Ohm.
I only have an LG V50 ThinQ 5G and an old flagship Sony XBA-40 Quad Balanced Armature IEM. And i can definitely say with confidence that they sound absolutely amazing for flac EDM music!
brilliant comparison review
Having lived with a LG V20 and a V40 my experience is the sound is great... until the headphone jack starts to play up, which happened all too quickly on both phones. So now I use wireless headphones, which defeats the LG's DAC.
Check your 3.5 jack, it may be clogged with dust. It happened to my V20, V40 and also on V60. Use a niddle or something like that to clean it. I did it and it is like new. This can also happen with the charging port, causing it not to fast charge. After cleaning it it worked grwat. So, if you have the chance, give this a go.
Hopefully mine stays working for a good while yet!
Hi Luke just to let you know do you attend can jam London which is few weeks away it runs for two days hope to see you there
Hello. I'll not be attending. Have a good time though.
A noisefloor on a 1k+ device is unacceptable.
I have LG V60 should I have to use IEM headphones to experience. DAC thing
the lg v60 is so good aside from the volume on certain songs being too low. is there a way to make it louder without rooting the phone?
That is the case on every device I have ever tried. It is to do with the source (track). Not everything is recorded and mastered at the same volume.
@@PerputuallyCensored well no cause ive never had volume issues with these tracks prior to using this device.
Not had that issue with mine. Perhaps yours is faulty.
@@PerputuallyCensored nope, you can see multiple people have this issue on reddit, its a software bug with the hifi. i found a solution already, plug in the wire first, then plug it into the headphones, for some reason this fixes the dacs volume output
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An Awesome device.
Still using as a daily driver. Actually have 3 of them used in rotation along with a V20.
All have awesome DAC's but I give My V20 the edge over the V60's. Not by a whole lot though. It just seems to have a better tuning and separation. It's also the B&O variant, might have something to do with it.
The V20 has the ESS Sabre 9218 on board. Raw and unhindered by any DSP options.
The V60 has the newer ESS Sabre 9219 onboard. This one has a few DSP options to re-shape the sound signature. I keep mine set to the "Short Filter, and the "Bass" sound preset. Onboard EQ is set to flat.
Poweramp handles everything else. I use a custom 12 band parametric EQ.
Sony MDR's or Soundmagic E80c's are My current favorites to listen on. So clear and wide open it's like I'm right there and not even wearing anything over My ears
What about driving capability on both devices?
Which 2? If you need power then a dedicated DAP will beat a phone.
agree.. LG v60 has a really good sound
and you sould try for a bluetooth speaker
no other DAP can sound so clear and clean like V60
testing it with the very same FLAC file and with same LDAC codec
I'm sorry for asking, as it might've been covered in the video, but for how long does LG-V60 battery last? Wifi Off, bluetooth Off. Playing flac files from a MicroSD card.
At least 40 hours but I haven't directly tested that yet. I think it'll get maybe 50 if not 60 hours possibly.
I have the V60 and the battery life runs laps around any DAP I own.
@@PerputuallyCensored Thank you for the reply. That's impressive!
i also have the v60, and with everything off this thing lasts for like 40hrs. its a champ. i use mine with the ifi go bar and the Questyle m15i and they sound Amazing also with the 1tb card
I tested mine (details on ASR ) and got 70 hours playback time. Using USBAPP
Yeah it seems like the only thing that the FiiO has going for it, is the system wide EQ and the 2nd power-in to preserve the battery.
Maybe the high-power output for high impedance headphones, would be another point for the FiiO.
The iss is due to the fact that I dknt think sony has low gain options. Because if the impedance of the iem. If it's low then noise floor will come . You need a player with a low gain option
please reply in need help urgently. I bought SanDisk 512gb SD card and it's working in my other phone with is xiaomi but not working for my lg v60 uw (vm600c) file system Sdcardfs. the file system of the SD card is exfat. how can I fix this. I've tried several SD card it's same thing. it's not working on the LG v60 but working in other phones
You’ll need to try and reformat it using your computer. Look that up online. There’s plenty of tutorials for Mac or PC.
What about something like the Hiby R4 that costs $249? Would you still get the V60 over that?
Yes
Definitely. I have the eva version because I love the colors and hiby eq and stuff but the screen is horrible and I can't really hear a difference other than the EQ and other things that are good about it. I don't regret getting the r4 though
Do you only have IEM or do you tried with headphones? Maybe headphones that need more Ohms could help with the noise floor?
Not really. If a device has a high noise floor, like the Sony, you can’t make it disappear. Every single IEM I have tried on a Sony DAP has a noise floor. It is the DAP, not the IEM.
@@PerputuallyCensored Have you tried 70ohms IEM, if it exisits?
@@maxence12091994 I never check what ohms my IEMs are so I don’t know whether I have or not.
@@PerputuallyCensored Ohms of IEM are in general lower than headphones ;)
I had V60 and sold it for it was not a convenient device. I need physical buttons. V60 has an extra button. But reprogramming it requires buying an app, putting device into a debug mode, etc. So, for me a proper DAP, even a simple one, is much better. On the go. At home, I have stationary DAC connected to a computer. Even Moondrop MIAD01 still has just the regular phone buttons. A pity.
Yeah, if you want the buttons then a DAP is better.
Just wanted to point out that when you're talking about noise floor you can't really assess this without music playing. Some of these devices mute/disconnect the headphone output completely when no signal is being played. You cant hear hiss because the output is disabled. Reason why sony hisses is that it apparently doesn't mute the headphone out.
I have the LG g8. does it play bit-perfect without an external dac? also how does it compare to the V60
I can't speak about the g8. Bit perfect is available via the native Music player app or a third party like Fiio Music, Hiby Music, USB Audio Player Pro on the V60.
@@PerputuallyCensored does it work without an external DAC straight into the 3.5mm jack
Yes it has a quad built in you can toggle on off also a 3d audio to add effects or EQ built in
The G8 has the same DAC (ES 9218p) as the V35,V40 and V50 unless it is a G8s which is missing the quad DAC.
To me, the whole point of portable HI-FI is the ability to use streaming as well as recorded music on the go. Meaning listening to music streamed from the servers of such services as Tidal, Amazon Music or Spotify, etc. totally independent of my WI-FI router when I am out and about. I like to discover new music which is offered instantly and automatically by these streaming services, not only listen to music which I previously downloaded. Therefore, the best portable solution for me is either a smartphone with a high quality DAC/AMP built-in or a smartphone + portable DAC/AMP. DAPs are not matching this purpose fully. The key phrase to achieve all this here is: unlimited cellular data plan.
what would be the ohm limit you'd say for a phone like this? Could I drive 150ohm headphones? or best to stick with smaller more efficient IEM's?
Can't comment on specific ohm numbers but the V60 drives my Hype 4s well. You can go look up what ohm the Thieaudio Hype 4 is to answer your questions. They require the most power of all my IEMs.
I have both the V60 and the V20. I use the V60 as a daily driver, but I promise you that the V20 is significantly better than the V60. I use the V20 as a DAP at home.
what makes it better? I am trying to see which is the best sounding of the lg v series. I have a v50 v30 and a v60 but I mostly use them for taking pics and video for ebay. I have a sony dap that I am about to sell and maybe get another lg
@@Shinigami7of1 I am talking about music fidelity. I use various earphones and headphones as well as a THX certified headphone amp to boost my planar headphones. I also swear by usb audio player pro. This allows direct DAC playback. The V60 is very good, but the V20 has an additional level of texture to my ears.
@@triffid68 thanks. I guess I will have to re-purchase the v20
I'm have both but prefer the v60
The most used when our and about is usually the iPod with items and the v20 v60 when home with hd650s or 580s
@@123benley I only use wired headphones of a decent quality and Tidal. Wireless-bluetooth and Spotify are both considerably lower quality and would sound similar on both phones.
I have a Sony NW-WM1A. I think I'm going to sell it and get another v60. since I was eyeing the mark 2 of the sony but I can get a v60 for about 100.00 so I might do that. Does anyone know which lg v series actually sound better and why?
I don’t know but more than one person has said the V20 sounds good.
@@PerputuallyCensored I had one before but didn't know about the audio quality at the time. I just used it as a phone. I sold it years ago but I think I will get another.
V30 with B&O tuned😅 sound amazing
@@PerputuallyCensored won a v20 for about 45.00 and another v60 for 75.00
@@sampathkumarnarayanan4101 have a v30 I use mostly to take pics of ebay items. I will compare them since now I have a v20,v30,v50 and v60
The daps can plug into other audio equipment ie used as a transport with thenm to play your media from with a better op amp and balanced output
It works as q DAC amp from a PC too
That the LG V60 cannot do .
But LG v60 has faster CPU it's a lot slicker user interface better streaming from RUclips videos has a camera since it is a phone with a 3.5mm so no balanced hp out it lacks a USB audio DAC for hooking up to PC or hifi
But is great as a dap out and about with iems can drive 300 Ohm headphones can run anything android app related.
Has wireless charging. It's just an all in one device it's only downfall it lack of LG 5k mah battery replacement available
Cheap option also is iPod classic a 30 pin to USB female cable oppo Ha2 and HD650s that you cannot turn to full power on iPod and oppo HA2 or you will go dead.
😊 can you please post the link of your iem headsets
Fiio JD7, FH3, Thieaudio hype 4, Ziigaat Doscinco. Some were referenced in the video.
What headphones do you use to test your phones/DAPs?
Fiio FH3, JD7, Ziigaat Doscinco, Thieaudio Hype 4
@@PerputuallyCensored Thanks.
Hi Luke is this the V60 "thinQ" model?
Yes
Is the LG still being updated ?
Nope 😢
Get your protective gear ready, my man. The audiophile inquisition will be gunning for you again. In my case, I use an LG V20 as a dap, and I'm happy with it. No rabbit holes for me.
How's the interface? Is it slow and clunky now given that's it's quite old now?
For browsing streaming it's showing it's quad core age for hard copy music from SD card still same as was
Do you think it is placebo then, the enormous differences that some reviewers hear? Do you have the same experiences for desk amps/dacs?
Answering your question directly, yes I do. However, I can only speak for myself on specific equipment that I have used but let's say that I am sceptical. I would love to see these people put out blind A/B tests regarding their claims. They never do, which is telling.
Haha I just bought a refurb V60 because my G7 was on it's last legs.
Lgs for life
I stream alot through an older lg phone..Sounds great!
I've never understood the acalades , sony products get!
I think there a bit / alot / overated....xpensive too!
Better than Sony nw a306?
Better sound? For me yes. Zero noise floor and a firmer bass than the A306
are the LG V60's from China legit?
Long awaiting thanks
By not using the balanced output you basically cut these daps off at the knees. That’s like telling Ferrari not go passed 2nd gear
Whatever you say. I trust my ears over your opinion.
@@PerputuallyCensored I’m not sure you’re following my comment. I’m not questioning your ears, I’m questioning your method
Balanced gives you a bit more power. It doesn't change or improve the sound, not on a single device that I have ever tried it on.
@@PerputuallyCensoredit’ll actually reduce the noise floor. Which you mentioned in the video. It’s measurable btw not subjective. I’ve never heard a noise floor on a dap with a balanced connection because they’re all designed for balanced. The SE is the flaw - the exception would be SET tube amps and chord products because they use a pulse array dac which is inherently SE, so the converse would be true if chord added a balanced out. Incidentally you get better channel separation, and dynamic range with balanced. Also entirely measurable to prove it
@@MrColdchillin81 You're projecting your experiences with completely different devices/equipment onto me. It is irrelevant and non applicable. Why you guys repeatedly do this is a mystery to me. It is really odd. I'll repeat, other than volume I have heard zero differences between 4.4 and 3.3 on every device I have tried.
That's an interesting comparison.
No man Lg have "low volume" and THAT a problem ALL phones ! Maybe Onkyo GrandBeat can or Marshall London but not LG V60 (((
Dude no it is NOT ON PAR. i literally have owned SEVERAL of these devices and the power output isnt ANYWHERE NEAR with the output of devices like fiio, ibasso, A&K, etc....I can prove this in a second in a 30 second video, it is apparent that a good dedicated dap is much more powerful than a consumer phone. My fiio m23 can literally make you go deaf if you arent careful, my v60 can barely drive over ear headphones. The v60 might be good for very sensitive IEMs but not in the same field as a dedicated DAP.
I never mentioned over ear headphones, you did. I don't use them so I don't care. I don't care about the ability to drive over ears either. Once again, someone projecting their opinions onto me for things that were and are irrelevant to my video. Even my title states that I am talking about sound and you still wrote that comment.
It can drive hd650s well and hd580s but saying that iPod classic can drive them too.
My man, I have the Sen HD660s2 and 600's running great and loud on my v60 and v50
or you can just buy a cheap Android phone and a Bluetooth dac amp like BTR7
And an external hard drive for storage…
Utter nonsense. There is a vast difference. Even the Fiio BTR15 offers substantially better sound, more solid and thumpy bass, cleaner highs, imaging. I have a V60 which is my main phone which I've had for years. Certainly a great-sounding phone output compared to your standard mobile or laptop phone jack. But an external DAC is no match, and that's even with tricks like using a short extender to trick it into high-output mode before plugging in the headphone. For one, the V60 driving the aux input on my car, it is **VERY** noisy and unusably so when charging from a 12v USB adapter.... and that noise imparts a haze on the sound. In comparison the Fiio BTR15 sounds night-and-day better, much quieter, no haze. The Fiio M23 (which I just returned) sounds even better, even more punchy on the bass, and has the advantage of allowing the PO output to be set as a line-out, as opposed to the futzing and occasional-danger of ear-blast in having to adjust the volume control on BTR15. And its battery lasts long enough that it can self-power for most car-trips, avoiding noise from 12v USB charging --- and leave the mobile phone running maps plugged in and charging, with all the 5G, GPS and charging noise completely uncoupled from my aux input. For headphones it's the same: BTR15 sounds substantially better with hidisz MP145, Truthear Nova, or Sundara. M23 sounds even more powerful and punchy, which is especially noticeable on the Sundara. The V60 simply doesn't have enough power to properly drive the HifiMan Sundara. The improvement on sound delivered by the M23 gets turned up to 11, and overall is less fatiguing and more pleasant and clearer high-end.
Your comment is stupid on multiple levels, that I have already covered in other videos. Because you're probably not bright enough to work it out I'll help you a bit here... Projecting your experience, with completely different equipment/different use case etc, onto me is as moronic as it is pointless. My video is over 20 minutes and contains quite a lot of things so when you say "Utter nonsense" you need to refer to something specific. I could go on and on...
this sony devices are a joke and any other music player that has sound issues floor noise, they say cellphones are bad for music but i never experienced any noise from a phone and a music player that is made specially for music has noise problems is unbelievable
so what about all the audio format specs ? the LG-V60 can perform as good as a dap? than i makes no sense to get a dap at this point? im trying to buy my first dap mainly for the storage i have an iphone and i dont have much storage i have a lot of flac files on my pc . im trying to understand what would be the difference
LG is good, but almost got no "soul" or character. So to fit everyone, almost like fit to none really. Thats why daps still pleasing..
Sorry to say but if you can not identify and describe the sound difference between these daps it is maybe better not to review this kind of devices. You have had and reviewed very intresting products from dap midrange area but without SQ it is very dissapoiting and time lost watching all these reviews. At least for me. Maybe others are intrested which one is bigger or has brighter screen.
No offence at all, I think the V60 is fantastic but it doesnt perform better in transients and depth than those DAPs.
But add an I basso D16 Taipan to this then yes, for sure a flagship Dap killer. But jot as it is.
Sorry, brother.
Have you owned all of them as I have to do the same level of testing? I doubt it.
Very misleading to call the v60 a $200 device. It's a $700 device that we're getting for 200 dollars refurbished, ONLY because of the special circumstances of LG mobile shutting down. Unfair to point out the price difference this way.
Whatever you say big brain. Me buying it new, not refurbished, for less than £200 and me stating that fact is "misleading". Ok. Thanks for that input.
so what, most daps are stupidly overpriced and only affordable if you get them used
if you can get it for a lower price, it is worth mentioning
it is not hard finding an LG phone for as low as $100 if it's a V20
that is a real world scenario
if he was basing it off of some lucky price that he got off of a 1 of a kind action, then I'd agree with you
even new its not 700.00 anymore so I guess you are also misleading. I got mine for 100.00