BAHRAIN UPDATE#2 with Scarbs by Peter Windsor
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- Опубликовано: 22 фев 2024
- Craig Scarborough details updates on the factory Mercedes W15 and Williams FW46-Mercedes from the final day of F1 testing in Bahrain. And what is the balance of power as we look towards next week's opening round of the World Championship? Craig offers his thoughts.
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I enjoy hearing Scarbs input on F1 on your channel Peter. The toughest part is when I turn up the volume for Scarbs low audio then it ends directly into the LOUD outro and blows my ears out.
Love your content Peter. Not just with Cameron F1, but also with Scarbs and his technical insights. Just wanna say, that outro just about burst my eardrum. 🙉 Keep up the amazing work!
That outro is an absolute HAZZARD. Shockingly loud, and potentially damaging if you are wearing headphones.⛔☢⛔☣⛔
lol, I spelled 'hazard' wrong!
Working with this poisonned Cameroon guy is embarrissing
He doesn't read the comments lol
Unrivalled technical info, this is. Well done yet again and thank you for such insight! Bravo 👏🏻
That ending was intense. 10:02
I know. Thanks Scarbs!
Excellent as always
Thank you very much 👍
fantastic analysis, thanks scarbs and pete
Peter and Scarbs the F1 Dynamics Duo🏁‼️
Thank you both for the insights - 1 week to go!!!
That outro with headphones on is a shock 😂
Maybe these two suspension parts for Merc are the max and min, and by testing these two they can develop parts in between the max and min as well. Or maybe the final design will be modular and even extremely adjustable.
Please, please, tell Scarbs to get a better microphone or headset!!!
Again, there was not one word mentioned about Aston-Martin. I for one would really like to hear something/anything about whatever progress they've made on their car.
You will learn everything week by week as the season goes on……..stay tuned.
Yeah the same on tv coverage it’s like they don’t know what’s really happening with Aston hopefully they surprise next weekend as the dark horse 👍👌🏁🙏
Unfortunately Alonso said Aston didn't do well, they're probably 6th behind RB.
4th fastest car
Unfortunately it looks like they've made little to no progress. I'm quite disappointed by what I've seen so far.
I thought the 'anti drive' component was connected to a 'bolt in' section on the chassis so actually Merc can try a whole bunch of different geometry's just by changing the 'bolt in' section
I think you're referring to the push rod. The upper and lower wish bones are what actually provide the so called anti dive effect. So changing where they connect to the wheel hub is not common
The actual shape of the control arm doesn't make a difference to geometry. It's just the distance between the bushings and where they mount on the upright/chassis.
All "bending" a control arm would do is effectively shorten the distance between the bushings. So the comment scarbs made about that is a bit misleading.
You would raise the attachment point on the chassis to increase anti-dive.
Isnt barhain rear limited?
Scarbs needs his own channel
I don’t know what, if anything, the Mercedes suspension thing is worth but definitely seems like a cool idea. They might not be winning but they are still a clever team.
Hopefully Scarbs is right and the pack is tight
The Merc front suspension. Could it be used, as one for qualifying and one for race distance.
parc ferme
That wouldn't be allowed because the cars are under parc ferme rules since the start of qualifying
They cannot, once Qualifying begins the cars setup can no longer be changed aside from front wing flap adjustment
aero under heavy breaking and keeping the cg more stable. Track dependent for sure.
They had to notice the tracks where red bull struggled and let’s see if they can at least be competitive there. I’m personally accepting Red Bull dominance but put up a proper fight for a win here and there hoping the RB has similar issues. But that new RB just looks the part so probably another fight for second.
If they want to start the race from the pit lane or back of the grid, yeah sure.
I don't know, RB just may be the sandbagger this time around - Max may (hopefully not) run away with it all again without breaking a sweat
Thank you. In depth. What a pleasure.
Allowing only three official days of testing will even in Africa be frowned upon as ludacrously stupid!
Could it be that HAAS performance under its operating model, is a key reason that Andretti Racing are being stifled in their efforts to join f1? I agree that the principle issue is probably how revenues are shared. However the 'HAAS model' is perhaps better suited to the US 'open wheel' circuit than F1. Andretti perhaps need to develop their own production and development facilities in order to demonstrate their commitment to a 'development class' competition as opposed to a 'class rule' series that they are used to. F1 is a 'step up' from traditional US race series, you can't just buy it and adapt it, you really have to design it and make it yourselves - not a simple transition.
Yeah, Haas can probably make a go in F2 or even sell 35% to Andretti or Penske
It will be a season where there is more driver rankings than team rankings. I'll see Max, Charles, Lando, Checo, Fernando, Lewis, Carlos, Oscar, George in this order! Then there will be sometimes a Daniel, Pierre, Esteban and Alex pop up in the points. The rest will be backmarkers.
I see anti-dive as being a huge advantage in Montreal where the straight leading to the "Wall of Champions" chicane is both bumpy (a soft setup helps) and leads to one of the hardest breaking areas of the season. Monza is another one...
scarbs, just remember williams are using last years chassis as both their chassis failed, so they’ve had to plaster old chassis onto new floor
Bahrain is front limited?
I was asking the same ahah
Front limited and rear limited are poor ways to describe a track in isolation of a car and its setup
It's been a solid testing session for us! Amazing job team, proud of you all❤ Now let's analyze the data and get ready for the first race! Looking forward to seeing the results. Forza C² ❤❤💪🏽💪🏽 💚🤍❤ Forza Ferrari! 💚🤍❤
So, that's another constructors championship for Adrian Newey then.
Only if Max can carry the team.
@@hankrearden5460it's Max
@@hankrearden5460 lol, most dominant car, 8 drivers on the grid could probably dominate with that car (max is doing great though) but f1 is dominated by the car, lots of research supports this
Yea sure car wasn't as good as they claim the last 2 days 😂
not likely again if the other teams are closer and it's just gonna get further away from Checo
Again Scarb is no race car engineer and a lot of the things he says is just his own guesses. Williams themself says "James Vowles explains why Williams runs the old Merc rear suspension: "It allowed us to start development four months earlier. Wind tunnel runs began in April. That's worth more in laptime than the latest spec parts."
Don't believe everything James V says
@@Lewythefly Certainly, but at least I pay attention to those who are actively engaged in working with race cars. This stands in contrast to self-proclaimed experts who merely observe pictures, presenting themselves as authorities in race car design. True professionals in the field of race cars engineering usually don't express themselves in the manner Scarbs does. Unfortunately, in today's era, there is a tendency for people to place trust in speakers who create an illusion of possessing more knowledge than they actually do.
@@BJS414 you might want to look at his career because it sounds like you don't know who Craig is and what he's done over the years
When is scarbs going to set up his own channel?
Hungary! Heavy braking + slow circuit = soft setup ... right?
I think if ferrari, mc laren, mercedes and Alonso are just a bit closer to redbull, the constructor championship will be intense because checo will struggle to keep up with those drivers
Guys.....please treat yourselves to some decent mics 🙈
Scarb's comment on the performance volatility of the mid-field brings to mind a problem I've had for a few seasons with the current points structure. With how close 2/3 of the field are, only giving points to half the field feels a bit unfit for purpose. This isn't a "participation trophy" argument more feeling that the purpose in awarding points is to easily rank relative performance throughout the season and the current system doesn't seem to do a particularly good job of that. For example (and this is coming from a Williams fan), Alpha Tauri absolutely should have placed 7th in the Constructors' points last year as they had a better average finishing position.
I know F1 is supposed to reward excellence, but it seems to me like the current system rewards luck a bit more...
True on the luck point, but I'd care more about the upper end of the standings when designing a points system. Nascar had a points system like you suggest, and champions would be determined by the least DNFs instead of the best results. Blow an engine or get wrecked on lap 50 after winning 3 races and you'll be 6th in the points. Thinking of Labonte in 96 or kenseth
Yeah, when you think about it, F1 cars are far more reliable in this era than the past. It would sort of make sense to give points for every car that finishes, but obviously heavily weighted towards the top positions. I wonder if it's possible to make the championships more open by changing the points system - especially seeing as so many fans are fixated on the championship battles as opposed to just the racing battles on track.
The argument was always that the win should be significantly more points to encourage drivers to battle rather than settle for podiums. I wonder if this really makes sense. I suppose some would consider it unfair if a driver/team had many more wins than second position in the standings, but one DNF put them level. Maybe we need to go back to the old system of counting the 'best' results of the season, instead of every race.
@@lightfeather9953 I'd have no problems with weighting the points toward rewarding wins. Just throwing ideas out; but maybe bumping first to 30 pts, 23 for 2nd, 20 for 3rd, 18 for 4th, 16 for 5th, 14 for 6th then decreasing one point for each place down to 1 for 19th.
You'd keep the 7 pt bonus for the win plus a bit of a premium for the top 5 while still giving a way to differentiate an 11th place finish from 20th unlike now.
As I said I'm just throwing the idea out there, I was mainly just seeing if I was maybe the only one who sees a bit of a flaw in the current system.
Max was just cruising around.
Bs let see it on the track
Gene Please if you want American F1 to blossom
Sell out to Andretti
I am highly suspicious about Red Bull dominance. I think due to Max there is a distorted view of Red Bull. I think Merc and Ferrari almost at the same level.
A yes, the teams that got the concept initially wrong are not behind in development and it's max making all the difference...right 🤣🤣🤣
These orange smurfs will have you believe Max can put a Williams on pole with no engine 😂🤡
I think you need to understand that F1 is a constructors series and a dominant car has delivered drivers championships to exceptional pilots like Schumacher, Vettel, Hamilton and now Verstappen who are able to extract more out of the car over a season than their team mates.
The gap between Max and Checo is particularly wide but seeing Perez finish second in the 2023 season in front of drivers like Hamilton and Alonso somewhat proves the point about the dominance of the RB19.
I think Checo is making the 2nd Red Bull look much worse than it is and depriving us of a teammate battle for the championship. But Verstappen's consistency, even when facing grid penalties and SC interrupting strategy has been impressive. The race pace of the Red Bull (and tyre wear) is clearly ahead of most teams at most circuits. The only problem is when they get the setup wrong.
Peter like you suggested McLaren should sell Piastry services to Mercedes and bring back Carlos Sainz back and drive again beside Norris full circle
What do you think can happen???
Cheers 👍
As an old guy from an old time I often regress, they did this because they did that because I did not really have a clue it is just conjecture, careful now boys its not politics it is racing and like me the finish line gets closer every day.
Lil Lewie never ran on same times SUPER MAX ran as the lil Narcissist twit dod not want to be destroyed. But it's coming. Max going to win by 25 seconds next weekend. Ta.
I'm feeling increasingly optimistic that we'll get to see Lewis earn his 9th. this year. Red Bull appear superficially strong, but the issues with horner reveal that below the surface they are collapsing. Even if their 2024 car is by far the fastest of the field, I question if Verstappen can handle the internal turbulence without entering an irrecoverable mental tailspin that will allow Lewis to secure the WDC by consistently outscoring him and making fewer mistakes and rash decisions. Lewis is a master of these situations, and his strategic affinity and experience from multiple hard fought championships puts him at slightly superior odds against Verstappen in 2024, even accounting for the car disadvantage.
Wouldn't he need to win his 8th first? He's not won a single race in 2 years....
Haha quite a novel you made there, based solely on rumors
Don’t hold your breath.
How far do you have ur head up in Lewis's arse?
Keep on dreaming
the season was over after the first test day. red bull has already won both champs, just award them the trophies. the rest of the teams are just filler. they have made zero progress. wait til 2026
SO, more of the same. Boring!!!
Dont shoot the messenger
@@Flashv28 Not at all, i love these guys.
So you don't like watching awesome machines and drivers going really fast supported by an incredibly efficient and purposeful team? Try horse racing or watching poker if you just want random.
@@erikwellerweller8623 So you call yourself and expert? 😄🤣 feeling macho over the internet. Im more technical not only to tak trash like you bit actually drive like that andan actual racer. But yeah! You are the winner!