Your channel and videos are always entertaining and educational. I've been watching for a year now, maybe more, and I am an OG viewer. I worked for a small owner operator crop duster company and was instantly hooked. First flagger (yes human flaggers), loader, training to become a pilot, but a California 19 drought and personal life challenges changed my direction in life.. Anyway to see the drop test is amazing as we just made sure they sprayed and didn't have any leaking nozzles. Times have changed so much. Thanks for giving us armchair pilots a look at your life. P.S. you both are camera friendly and are entertaining. P.S.S. Congratulations on expanding your business
This tool is beyond slick. The fact that you have a deliverable for your clients in the form of multiple passes and detailed data for each is a huge win. It’s way less likely that a client can cry foul about the consistency of your coverage with an entire packet of data that proves otherwise. And even if it is not an upset client, all clients will appreciate your thoroughness and the records of your data instead of “It sprays great. trust me bro.”
That’s pretty cool!! Being a former yard and baseboard jockey in the 90’s 😂, I had to figure out gallons per minute as well as droplet size for yard and small field applications which was nowhere near as precise as this. It’s amazing how much more there is to applying products in your occupation that goes beyond flying the airplane which is a full time job in and of itself!! As always I wish you two the best!!! Blue skies!!! 🤠👍
NORTHEAST TEXAS HERE 🤠 HOW Y'ALL DOIN. MAN HOW THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE MY DAY IN THE 60 , 70 AND 80 s . VERY COOL STUFF. LOVE ALL THE CONTENT. HELPS ME KEEP UP WITH A TIME LONG SINCE PASSED. HAVE A BLESSED DAY Y'ALL. BE SAFE.
Very interesting! Can you adjust the nozzles for a preferred droplet size? Is there a preferred droplet size for each product or different wind conditions?
Yes and yes. Nozzle size and pressure are used to adjust droplet size. Many spray booms have several nozzles mounted on them and you can switch to the best one for the application quickly on the ground.
Yes, our particular set up we have three different nozzles we can choose from. Nozzle size and pressure will affect droplet size. Check out this video - ruclips.net/video/947QLAKTDMI/видео.html Thanks for watching and commenting!!
If the air temp is high, do you fly closer to the crop since droplet evaporation will be greater-? Some farmers say that if they dont see color evidence from the crop slapping against the wheels and brake calipers while the airplane is spraying, then they dont want you spraying their crops.
The idea that the wheels have to be in the crop is a bit of an old school mentality. The best pattern is going to be flying 5-10 ft above the crop canopy and believe it or not, most labels specify application height and the label is the law. So flying with wheels in the crop would actually be doing the farmer a disservice (poor pattern and disposition of product) and is technically off label. Not trying to be negative here, just helping to educate some of the old school theories of our industry! Thanks for the comment!
Hey Tyson and Callie! I am interested in Ag flying and I was wondering if there are any performance documents, POH, even a maintenance manual for your airplanes. I have been looking online for anything of the sort for Air Tractor and Thrush, but nothing has come up. Hope this gets to you! I really just want to read up on this stuff out of curiosity, and hopefully one day I'll get in the seat of one!
Something that would be beneficial right now is studying tha national aerial application manual. amzn.to/3YZaOSA I believe you can find POHs online but they are a bit pricey!
Great to see young blood in the industry. Pretty fancy setup. We just put sticky notes on the ramp and fly over them. Cost: $1.50. Time: 5 min. Y'all said you're a little "OCD", that's an understatement! Save a LOT of time and money by picking the brains of a few older pilot/owners. We're always happy to help; especially in avoiding unnecessary costs and unnecessary starts on that turbine!!
Once you have the kit and the app ($1600), it will cost you $150 per test per airplane if you run each plane across the test line the recommended 3 times (not including jet fuel but you can do this literally steps from your hoe strip). Let’s just say you have two turbines that burn 60 gal of Jet A per hour, and you have a pattern test that you can attend that is a 90-minute flight from your home base. We currently have $4/gal jet fuel so at that we’d be looking at about $1500 in fuel to get there and back. Not including time on the engine (maintenance) to get there and back Not to mention the added convenience of not having to plan to leave for a pattern test which at this point our time is very valuable. It’s not absolutely wild. This system is saving us money and, more importantly, time.
Great question and we'll answer it in length in a video but in short, manned aircraft are faster and we are under time constraints when applying many of the products we apply. We are the most efficient, effective way to get the product on the crop. Our equipment has been developed to provide an excellent pattern and reduce drift and we test it every year to ensure that it's all working properly. Our pilots are trained applicators first, pilots second. They are very experienced as pilots AND applicators. There is a lot at stake, and they take their job very seriously.
An excellent and necessary informational video for the aerial application industry and the casual viewer.
Appreciate the comment!
Your channel and videos are always entertaining and educational. I've been watching for a year now, maybe more, and I am an OG viewer. I worked for a small owner operator crop duster company and was instantly hooked. First flagger (yes human flaggers), loader, training to become a pilot, but a California 19 drought and personal life challenges changed my direction in life.. Anyway to see the drop test is amazing as we just made sure they sprayed and didn't have any leaking nozzles. Times have changed so much.
Thanks for giving us armchair pilots a look at your life.
P.S. you both are camera friendly and are entertaining.
P.S.S. Congratulations on expanding your business
That's wild! Thanks so much for the comment. Appreciate it!
This tool is beyond slick. The fact that you have a deliverable for your clients in the form of multiple passes and detailed data for each is a huge win. It’s way less likely that a client can cry foul about the consistency of your coverage with an entire packet of data that proves otherwise. And even if it is not an upset client, all clients will appreciate your thoroughness and the records of your data instead of “It sprays great. trust me bro.”
Absolutely!! 100%
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If the air temp is high, do you fly closer to the crop since droplet evaporation will be greater-?
That’s pretty cool!! Being a former yard and baseboard jockey in the 90’s 😂, I had to figure out gallons per minute as well as droplet size for yard and small field applications which was nowhere near as precise as this. It’s amazing how much more there is to applying products in your occupation that goes beyond flying the airplane which is a full time job in and of itself!! As always I wish you two the best!!! Blue skies!!! 🤠👍
Thanks, Rob!! Appreciate the comment!
We started using DropFlight this year. No joke, I think it may be the most useful technology for our industry since GPS.
It's amazing!
Excellent video guys, we need a kit like that down under!
Thanks so much!! I believe they will ship to you! They have a few operators over there already. Reach out to Rob and see what's possible.
Wow-more amazing technology!
Thanks for watching!
NORTHEAST TEXAS HERE 🤠 HOW Y'ALL DOIN. MAN HOW THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE MY DAY IN THE 60 , 70 AND 80 s . VERY COOL STUFF. LOVE ALL THE CONTENT. HELPS ME KEEP UP WITH A TIME LONG SINCE PASSED. HAVE A BLESSED DAY Y'ALL. BE SAFE.
Thanks for watching Billy!!
Looks like you both are still enjoying Ag Aviation and all the Adventure that comes with it!!! I know I enjoy looking over your shoulders.
Bill
Thanks so much Bill! Appreciate you being here.
Thanks for the info
Thanks for watching!
Very interesting information well presented.
Thank You for sharing.
Best Wishes to You, Your Family and Friends.😢
Thanks for watching and the comment!!
Very interesting! Can you adjust the nozzles for a preferred droplet size? Is there a preferred droplet size for each product or different wind conditions?
Yes and yes. Nozzle size and pressure are used to adjust droplet size. Many spray booms have several nozzles mounted on them and you can switch to the best one for the application quickly on the ground.
@its4michael wow! Thank you!
Yes, our particular set up we have three different nozzles we can choose from. Nozzle size and pressure will affect droplet size. Check out this video - ruclips.net/video/947QLAKTDMI/видео.html
Thanks for watching and commenting!!
@@AgAviationAdventures Thanks!
Did you swop the cards with new ones between passes? Or did you use new ones? Do they dry out after a few minutes?
Another cool video btw.
Yes!! We forgot to mention this. After each pass, it’s fresh cards and then a fresh scan.
Do you have a video on that dolly your plane is on in your hangar?
We do not!
Excellent video. May I ask what it cost for the whole setup?
Thanks! The app and kit is $1600. The cards are about $1 a card but I think cheaper if you buy in bulk.
If the air temp is high, do you fly closer to the crop since droplet evaporation will be greater-?
Some farmers say that if they dont see color evidence from the crop slapping against the wheels and brake calipers while the airplane is spraying, then they dont want you spraying their crops.
The idea that the wheels have to be in the crop is a bit of an old school mentality. The best pattern is going to be flying 5-10 ft above the crop canopy and believe it or not, most labels specify application height and the label is the law. So flying with wheels in the crop would actually be doing the farmer a disservice (poor pattern and disposition of product) and is technically off label. Not trying to be negative here, just helping to educate some of the old school theories of our industry! Thanks for the comment!
Hey Tyson and Callie! I am interested in Ag flying and I was wondering if there are any performance documents, POH, even a maintenance manual for your airplanes. I have been looking online for anything of the sort for Air Tractor and Thrush, but nothing has come up. Hope this gets to you! I really just want to read up on this stuff out of curiosity, and hopefully one day I'll get in the seat of one!
Something that would be beneficial right now is studying tha national aerial application manual. amzn.to/3YZaOSA
I believe you can find POHs online but they are a bit pricey!
That's a lot different from throwing a big ol Tupperware lid out there in the flight path.
Haha quite a bit, yes!
Great to see young blood in the industry. Pretty fancy setup. We just put sticky notes on the ramp and fly over them. Cost: $1.50. Time: 5 min. Y'all said you're a little "OCD", that's an understatement! Save a LOT of time and money by picking the brains of a few older pilot/owners. We're always happy to help; especially in avoiding unnecessary costs and unnecessary starts on that turbine!!
What does it tell you about your spray pattern spraying over sticky notes?
$800 for an app and $1 per card is absolutely wild. Not to mention the $800 for the kit.
Once you have the kit and the app ($1600), it will cost you $150 per test per airplane if you run each plane across the test line the recommended 3 times (not including jet fuel but you can do this literally steps from your hoe strip). Let’s just say you have two turbines that burn 60 gal of Jet A per hour, and you have a pattern test that you can attend that is a 90-minute flight from your home base. We currently have $4/gal jet fuel so at that we’d be looking at about $1500 in fuel to get there and back. Not including time on the engine (maintenance) to get there and back Not to mention the added convenience of not having to plan to leave for a pattern test which at this point our time is very valuable. It’s not absolutely wild. This system is saving us money and, more importantly, time.
@@AgAviationAdventures I would like directions to this “hoe” strip please. Asking for a friend.
Why is this better than a drone?
Great question and we'll answer it in length in a video but in short, manned aircraft are faster and we are under time constraints when applying many of the products we apply. We are the most efficient, effective way to get the product on the crop. Our equipment has been developed to provide an excellent pattern and reduce drift and we test it every year to ensure that it's all working properly. Our pilots are trained applicators first, pilots second. They are very experienced as pilots AND applicators. There is a lot at stake, and they take their job very seriously.
Maybe I could borrow your plane sometime and give this try...
That's funny.