How The Smiths Changed Music
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- Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024
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A brief documentary about The Smiths. Produced and written by Matt Beat. Check out @thesmithsofficial's music: / the smiths - topic
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Songs That Saved Your Life: The Art of The Smiths 1982-87 by Simon Goddard
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The Smiths remain one of the most prominent bands in British music history. Johnny Marr is still considered one of the greatest guitarists of all time and Morrissey is considered one of the greatest lyricists of all time.
Rarely does a band exist for such a little amount of time yet have such a huge influence. I know that “indie rock” has become a terrible, catch-all label today to describe music, but if I had to pick one band that helped make “indie rock” a thing in the first place, it would be the Smiths. Odds are, your favorite band from the past 35 years was influenced by them- that’s how influential they were. More specifically, The Smiths helped British popular music return to its rock roots, even helping create an entire genre of music- Britpop. As a matter of fact, I’d argue alternative rock wouldn’t have been nearly as big in the 1990s if it weren’t for the band.
The Smiths may have only been together a few short years, but their impact on music and culture still resonates today.
#thesmiths #alternativerock #musicdocumentaries
Which band should I cover for this series next?
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cover 'The Doors' next. pleease
Can you do van Halen history some day
The Cure!!
do AC/DC
Can you do a Foo Fighters video? Thanks! :)
johnny marr is such a great guitarist and andy rourke was so underrated. its amazing how many great songs they wrote in such a short time
Rourke, in particular is underrated. Take away his bass lines in most Smiths songs and they are not nearly as good.
@@mattbeatgoeson can you do phoenix
@@mattbeatgoeson Rourke’s bass lines are so good that when I tried to remove them (out of curiosity, or course), my brain just filled them in from memory
you 'Rourke is underrated' sheep can give it up on the obvious (and maybe even do better to f*ck off)/ The Smiths as composite musicians were/are brilliant
@@mattbeatgoesonI really under-appreciated Andy rourke before I started learning bass. Now his basslines are some of my favourite
RIP to the Great Andy Rourke!!! Just like Johnny Marr, his style of playing and influence is undeniable! You will be greatly missed!❤❤
Everyone always talks about how great morrisey and marr were, because they are. But people really sleep on Andy Rourke and Mike Joyce. One of the best rhythm sections ever. They're criminally underrated but they really do carry the amazing guitar and lyrical work of the songs.
It wouldn't sound the same without them. That's for sure. They were just as important as Morrissey and Marr.
I don't (and most other fans too)
I have always been a HUGE Andy Rourke fan. His bass lines carry the melody in a lot of Smiths songs, which is what allows Marr to go off on his creative guitar excursions without the songs falling apart.
💯
Let's hope its different now. R.I.P Andy Rourke
The band has gone but the songs will live forever
Most definitely
@@mattbeatgoeson Why are you shouting down the Microphone? just talk but don't shout down the microphone ... and sounding like you didn't want to do this video lol
@@michaelhawkins7389 he talks like this in all his videos
Even though they are gone, The Smiths and their songs will live in our hearts forever. RIP Andy Rourke. Really awesome bassist and extremely underrated.
The Band is Gone but the Songs are Real
Imagine being in a band for 5 years and leaving a legacy this big. It’s astounding.
It was just a burst of energy over the blink of an eye. Here and gone but never forgotten. Every single member possessed insane talent.
It’s incredible you could hear this as a record executive and not be like holy fuck.
I'm Brazilian, I'm 52 years old, and I lived through the time when The Smiths emerged. I bought all the albums released in Brazil and followed their entire career. I'm not sure how it was in the rest of the world, but here their influence was very strong on the best rock bands of the time, both in playing style and lyrics. I listened so much that I spent almost a decade without listening, but now I'm back into it, and it's amazing. It's on another level. It's a shame they never came to Brazil. I only watched Morrissey and Jonny Marr's solo shows, and it was very emotional.
I’m American and they define my teen years, college. Still love them at 55.
That's so cool that they were big in Brazil! How awesome! They were huge here in the states! Mainly from 1985 and on. We were devastated when they broke up.
Lucky you
HOW SOON IS NOW BY THE SMITHS:
How soon is now is definitely one of the most hypnotic songs I’ve ever listened too! I remember dancing to this song at prom and just being in my own headspace even though I was dancing with my prom date! She loved it too!
Wow she is a keeper.
Can’t believe they haven’t been inducted in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. My absolute favorite band 🖤
Me neither!
What is popular isn't always right and what is right isn't always popular 👍
I love the smiths so much I hope they never get into that horrible waste of time
The RNRHF is a bunch of bullshit. Please keep the Smiths out of that embarrassing club house.
They don’t need it.
At all.
I was in the backseat of my car during a road trip,my family and i were playing music from the 60s-90s that we liked,joy division,manic street preachers,nirvana,echo and the bunnymen,green day,david bowie,queen,the cure... Then suddenly my mother played "there is a light that never goes out" and i SWEAR,it was like an awakening in me,from the first chord it had such a huge impact on me,it wasnt one of those songs that you have to listen to a bunch of times until you like it,for me,it was an instant click,then she played heaven knows im miserable now and i kept on discovering their music,this charming man,panic,bigmouth strikes again,everyday is like a sunday,suedhead.., i love watching their music videos and concerts and i learned a lot with this video.thank you for making it.
The last two songs are just Morrissey 😮but great songs anyway.❤
First song I heard of theirs was “There Is A Light That Never Goes Out” last year on a random playlist on Spotify and I’ve been obsessed with it ever since. The strange melancholy background and sound of the singing makes it feel like idk, makes me feel like my life is flashing before my eyes and in those last moments of life all I’m thinking about are moments with the love of my life.
That is a great song but if it the only one that you listen to you’re missing out to even better ones they have made, I personally would recommend That joke isn’t funny anymore, These things take time,I want the one I can’t have, Accept yourself, Unloveable.. honestly just all of the smiths songs, they are all masterpieces, also Morrissey’s songs as well
The Smiths are such an important band for me. I discovered them when I was 14 and they really influenced not just my musical tastes, but Morrissey's lyrics were a part of the reason I wanted to read more. That was what made me want to go into university and what put me on the path I am today.
I saw The Smiths in Dallas at the Bronco Bowl, too young to realize how great they were. Now that I’m much older, I have realized that I saw one of the greatest bands of all time. They changed my life and I am forever grateful for that. MORRISSEY changed my life and I still would follow him anywhere. ” Because we must ”.
Lucky you! My roommate in 1985 brought home a Smiths album and I was instantly a fan! Seen Morrissey three time, but would have cashed it all in to see The Smiths!
No you weren't, they were as average as you remeber. You just tried to convince yourself later in life that they were better than they are
No way! Mr. Beat covers The Smiths?! So glad I found this channel!
I’ve tricked my mother into thinking The Smiths have made a new album called “The Smiths II” I’ve been playing her random songs that sound like the smiths and she has totally bought it. Every time I’m in the car with her she says “Play The Smiths II on your phone” and I can’t help but die of laughter on the inside
What artists are they really?
Who are the artists? Can u drop the link to the Playlist, please
TELL US THE SONGS
WHAT R THE SONGS
drop the playlist. quickly
A band ive seen live over 30 times. My favourite band of all time and local to where i grew up, I'm 53 now and still listen to them daily.
I think it would be cool to have a Beach Boys video next, they have a very interesting history.
They do. Lots of drama! I plan on covering them at some point.
@@mattbeatgoeson I actually don't know much about the Beach Boys so I'm pretty excited!
Will be a long one to watch. Better prepare some snacks and drinks and weed.
@@PoisonStore Thanks Mr. Beat, The Beach Boys are one of my favorite bands ever :)
@@therocknrollgamer9572 Gladly. Thank you too
I just listened to your entire Story of The Smiths, whom I Love. It was great & very informative for me, thank you for all your work in making this & putting it out for everyone. My ex-husband was an enormous fan of The Smiths and saw them perform more than once. I didn’t really know a lot about them until Circa 1990, after they had parted ways.
I never got to see them perform but I did see Morrissey in Boulder, CO in 1997, Maladjusted Tour. I made my way up to the front stage (smaller venue) and he held/shook my hand and smiled at me, an incredibly monumental moment~
My favorite song: There’s a Light, not just because it’s a beautiful song but because of an event. We had just taken a road trip moving from Monterey to Olathe, KS, where my soon to be husband & his best friend were going to start a band. After a month, things weren’t moving along. We were living in our friends parents basement & one night I was so over living there and I said take me anywhere… and yep, I had no home-so it’s a magical memory for me because after meeting Michael, my life changed 💯 for the better. He introduced amazing music, art, classical literature etc. to me and was very well read & interesting and quirky and my life changed forever. So this song always brings me back to that time in my life in 1992. Definitely was the greatest summer of my life, to this day. The story has way more to it and all seriously so cool and amazing, but suffice to say-The Smiths, The Cure, REM were my fav 3 bands when we met and he had asked me what were my top 3 & when I told him he freaked because his were the same 3. We were married 6 months later in NYC. I just saw The Cure at MSG 6/21/23-and they were so incredible/our seats were so close to the stage-best show I’ve ever been to. Would love to hear more of their story! Robert Smith (after 3 hour show) got a 10 min standing ovation & said thanks this was F’ing incredible & had tears walking off the stage ♥️
Omg what an incredible story of seeing the Cure. I’m kicking myself for missing their tour. I saw Morrisey about 10 yrs ago same thing Re Little Light which he played. It’s like they didn’t know how much of an incredible impact they had on our lives. ❤️
I will always have the smiths to thank for making me more interested in music they were the first real band i really listened to they really made me more interested in finding music that i liked and discover new genres
before that i would never really think of music as something other then background noise and my playlist was just filled with shit i had heard on the radio or similar
Same impact The Smiths had on me!
Im from stretford in manchester. My dad grew up in gorse hill (a part of stretford) where morrisey was from. Says he used to see him walking about when he was a kid and now knows it must have been morrisey as there wasnt many people like that back then. The smiths has always been an integral part of my life. One of my favourite bands ever.
There is a Light That Never Goes Out, is the greatest love song ever written. Do one on Morrissey’s solo career duh.
The Smiths! Aw man, I love blastin' some Smiths. They were like the british emo version of the Dead Kennedys. Both bands had incredible guitar work and fun/sassy vocals with infectious bass to round it all out.
I'm kinda new to rock and for some reason the Smiths and R.E.M remind me of each other, even though they're both so vastly different in their history. I'd love to see you do a deep dive into their career.
Also, these videos are so special to me. As a rap fan, I've learned so much of the history of Rock music and made it so much more interesting to check out these "unheard-of" artists as a newcomer. I'm always happy to see a new upload from your channel
I'm actually already in the early stages of making an R.E.M. video!
And thanks for the kind words! Speaking of rap, I'm probably likely to make one about Outkast soon as well.
Good ear, probably some parallel development going on there...cheers!
Check out The Housemartins they were around during the same time as The Smiths. Or Belle & Sebastian, both bands draw comparisons.
Both played Rickenbacker guitars in their early years. Like the Jam, Byrds and Beatles.
There is a light that never goes out is my favourite song - I discovered it when I was in the grip of depression and drinking a rather nice 85 year old single malt straight out of the bottle. That song spoke to me, I think I played it ten times in a row.
This is one of my dad's favorite bands. And Johnny Marr is very talented! Nice Video!
They will always be my favourite band! I just wish I was alive earlier so I could’ve seen them live at their peak.
I saw them live TWICE! …….Tower ballroom Birmingham UK and Woverhampton Civic Hall …….are you jealous?! 😊
I WAS alive at the time and a HUGE fan as a 14 yr old in Brisbane, Australia waiting in vain for them to tour. Not an unusual situation as so many of my fave bands never toured down here until the 1990s, and The Smiths were donzo by then... I did see Morrissey down here though but wouldve preferred the whole band in all their glory back in 1987
@@westonsea I am😭
@@westonseaYou were not only alive then but even experienced their live shows… Yes, you truly were born as the luckiest generation ever, I will always be jealous of you!
The song, "Please Please Please" (let me get what i want) was licensed for the hit movie, "Ferris Buehler's Day Off" and played as the characters visited the Chicago Art Institute - and imho had a huge impact and I wish you'd cover this song as well in this great biopic ...
Also, the version in Ferris... is performed by the Dream Academy who had a minor hit with their cover.
it is also in never been kissed and dead man's dhoes😮
Shoes😂😂😂
Girl Afraid is a heavily underrated The Smiths song
"I'll never make that mistake again"
YESSS, it's so short with a long intro therefore I think people dislike it more. But the æyrics and instrumentals are PERFECT!! Two verses are all you need to describe something millions of people can relate to. 😌
For real
Where do his intentions lay?😊
Here in Brazil (1988) , was opening Show Tv of Surf (See Programa Realce/ RUclips
Rest easy, Andy...Maybe you and the boys will play again in Heaven....
Andy Rourke, Rest In Peace 😢
I went to school with Andy & Johnny Marr at St Augustines in Sharston, Manchester. Even played rugby with Andy. Remember them well. RIP Andy.
I came to The Smiths late in life, but really enjoy their creativity and uniqueness. Thanks for making this video.
It’s been done before, but Kraftwerk are/were a highly influential band who took synthesiser music to new frontiers where many artists built on their direction. Would good to hear your perspective.
''the sun shines out of our behinds'', is still one of my favorite lines from a song. Moz the poet !
The Smiths must be included in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. It is shameful they’ve been overlooked for this long.
Well, they do kind of such and make bland, dumb music. Why would it be a surprise?
@@matthewhunter6421 wot
@@matthewhunter6421you really are a hater aren’t you? It’s alright not everyone would like the same music, but why hate tho? The Smiths are one of the greatest bands ever, deal with that;)
They pushed a button on the mixing board labeled “change music” thinking it was some weird reverb effect. No one had ever noticed it before, so many damn buttons, switches, levers.
Great video!!! I'm sure you know this but Tony Wilson didn't sign them not because he thought they were bad or mediocre but because factory records were almost bankrupt at the time. Also EMI didn't reject them, they offered The Smiths a deal but they wanted to stay independent as it was very important to them and their fans. They Had a huge following by their 3rd gig which is mad to think about. Loved seeing this video on my recommended!
I have no idea why but Bigmouth Strikes again is my favorite Smiths song. I just love how it sounds.
Check out "This Charming Man"!
The Smiths are my fave band all time. My favorite so g by them is "Stop Me If You Think You've Heard This One Before". My fave album is The Queen is Dead. And I feel like they were around long enough to make their presence felt...
I literally just got done watching your brilliant video on The Police and was like " I hope he has one on The Smiths" Yay! :D
no way! IVE BEEN WAITING ON THIS VIDEO FOR YEARS. 🤩
I hope it meets your expectations!
Thank you for the work you do 😊
I love The Smiths, they will always be my #1 favorite band from Manchester England
my favorite song is The Hand That Rocks the Candle off the debut. Purely because of the cryptic nature of the lyrics and because it seems so unorthodox for him to write stuff like that
love the smiths .. first heard Louder Than Bombs in a young lady's dorm room in the early 90s.. honestly, that was all i listened to of theirs for years lol .. funny that this "compilation" had, i think, one song from any of their albums.. i call those "the wasted years" ... seriously though, great band.. they're in my pantheon with REM, Vampire Weekend, The Pixies, Midnight Oil.... ohhhh, so many :)
I’ve waited for this one Mr.Beat
I'm glad to hear it!
The Queen is Dead is a masterpiece. Not the biggest Smiths fan but that one is brilliant
Was watching your videos last night literally thinking I hope they make one about the smiths and here it is the next day thank you such an awesome video
Woahness. 😳
RIP Andy Rourke
I learned about the Smiths from my aunt she made sure I knew them by asking me who was playing when their songs came but I was young at the time so I never knew that many songs but as I got older I took more interest in them and started listening to their music on my own, also, my aunt has the exact photo on the thumbnail as a poster above her bed
Dude, faithful telling of their story.
I watched 500 days of summer when it came out I was 12 and The Smiths still hit so hard now. Andy Rourke is the best bassist to ever do it
My son's middle name is Morrissey. That's how much I love the Smiths
Great detailed video. I've been a Smiths fan since 1985 and they'll always be one of my top 10 favorite bands.
My favourite song by The Smiths is whichever one I'm singing at the time. My favourite album by The Smiths is the compilation Louder Than Bombs.
I would love to see you do an episode on Wire. Now there's a band that had a huge influence on what would become indie rock. Their second album, Chairs Missing, is a blueprint for what would become post-punk and indie rock
I think an Oasis video would be great. they have such an interesting history and the brothers had such a dynamic relationship.
Surprised he hasn’t done one already. I’m a fan of the band and although they can be a bit divisive at times they’re undeniably one of the most famous acts of the 90s.
@@seankilburn7200 and one of the best
@@thatsjuancooldude9409 blur, radiohead and pulp >>
Growing up in the 80s,all I knew was typical pop music and hair bands. I didn't know about the Smiths until after they disbanded when I was living in West Germany. A friend played Hand in Glove on night and I was hooked.
Impeccable video. Have to check out the rest of your Band history videos for sure
RIP Andy Rourke your guitar work was incredible and will be missed
There is a light that never goes out is my favorite Smiths track and Meat is Murder is my favorite album.
Great video as always!! I think it would be cool if you did a brief history of Pearl Jam or The Cure. I would absolutely love that.
What is said in this is what most people say! In 1985 I heard and interview that stated that Rourke and Joyce would come up with the bass and drum riffs, pass it on to Marr, he would write guitar and then Morrissy would write the words. A lot of people at that time thought their music was depressing but their music stands the time for what is happening in society and the world in 2023. As far as great goes, Terry Bozzio and Warren Cucarillo are the best drummer and guitarist ever. Meat Is Murder is my all time favorite album and the SMITHS taken from that album was my first tattoo!
The Smiths changed lives. Not many bands can do that. Please please please is only 1.57 long but changed my life.
UGH I know it'll never happen now but I would've adored to see them live 😢
One time The Smiths had a concert in Poland and Morrissey just stormed of backstage without even playing one song and that was the first nd also the last concert in Poland by them.
great vid! absolutely love the smiths, johnnny marrs tone is just so beautiful honestly some of my favorite guitar work and i think that similar tone reemerged later with the excellent midwest emo scene. as a bass player though have to say you must recognize andy rourkes playing its fantastic "the headmmasters ritual" is a prime example of this such good bass riffage!
Britpop is one of my favorite "genres" of music, and I'd argue Johnny Marr and Andy Rourke almost singlehandedly created the genre.
@The Beat Goes On absolutely! they were incredibly influential and not too mention the Manchester area right before them joy division and the whole Madchester scene then right after oasis who are from Manchester
Oh yes. I love this ❤ thank you so much for posting this
Thanks for watching, Nicholas!
Talking Heads would be a cool new entry for this series, especially now that A24 is sending Stop Making Sense back to theaters this year
I saw that! Yeah I love the Talking Heads.
"The band has gone but the influence is real"
The Smiths probably recorded four or five average songs, and the rest were either brilliant, magnificent or unforgettable 😮what a canon of work😲truly astounding band. Never been betterred❤❤. RIP sweet andy 💔
Rip Andy rourke
Nothing makes me happier than a new brief history from Mr Beat
I appreciate your support, Jackson!
A band that doesn’t get that much recognition is the alternative/indie band The shins. They really made their own influence around although they aren’t the biggest. I will love for you to make a brief history of the shins.
Great vid. Thanks for this brief history on one of my all time favorite bands. My favorite song? How Soon Is Now. Not sure who is credited for this quote but I heard it was the "Stairway To Heaven of the 80's". So true. So true.
You sound like one of my favorite college professors. Thank you for making me feel 20 again 🥲
got to see Marr play at coachella a few years back. he played "there is a light," :,) what a gift-
love the smiths
& great video! thank you!
1. Errors and footnotes -
Pomfret didn't really do anything except reconnect Marr with Morrissey (four years after they first met). It was Hibbert, not Pomfret, who played the first couple of gigs. / Re band name - it's often suggested that, consciously or not, the association of the name Smiths with both Patti Smith and the couple who helped convict the Moors Murderers played into it / The term "alternative rock" wasn't really used in the UK in the 20th century / The narrator probably could have emphasized just how many "b-side" and other "non-album" tracks they had: as of 2023 not all of them have been anthologised, even as the number of compilations continues to increase.
2. Obvious idea -
They could probably compress into a video about the same length as this one "a brief history of everything Paul Weller did before he became a solo artist"
A brilliant concise, to the point and entertaing review of this great band. As fan of thier music I learned stuff I didn't know. Thanks!❤
In just 5 years together they released such an amazing lineup of music with varying styles and such emotion.
Saw them live in 1983 Portsmouth polytechnic. Sort of changed everything for me
Thank you for all these wonderful videos! I can’t imagine how much time goes into the making of them, thank you😊
(And if you don’t mind me asking I think you should do David Bowie)
Thanks for the kind words! I definitely plan on making a video about David Bowie sooner than later.
We're about to get here on our podcast. Just started the 80s. Super excited to be talking about this genre and this video is a great resource.
Who else but the Smith can make you snap your fingers as you sing "If a ten ton truck, crashes into us..." The Bass and Drums are just as important, I was not into Jangle rock and Morrissey is kind of strange but I got used to him because the Bass and Drums were Great from day one. The Albums sound great for a Independent and low budget start.
I thought "Boy with a Thorn in his side" sounded different than the one I had in the late 80's on my walkman. When i got the MP3's i though my brain was more broken than I thought.
I was pleasantly surprised to hear Mr. Beat on another channel!
I quote from the book, "“A light that never goes out-The enduring saga of The Smiths,” by Tony Fletcher": "Marr’s guitar playing and arrangements reflected the windswept moors of the post-punk indie scene more than they did any form of elegiac pop for which he would become famous."
I saw Morrissey solo in LA at the Hollywood Bowl and it was spectacular!
Wasn't expecting you to do The Smiths.
Would love to see a video on the Pogues, gotta be one of the most unique bands of the 80s!
Excellent brief history of The Smiths. A monumental band that we all wanted to stick it out. If you've not done The Sweet, that would be a great episode I think.
Minor Threat? Bad Brains?
would love to see hardcore/punk bands
Heck yeah
“The Headmaster ritual” will forever be one of my favors songs by the smiths.
you have to do an obligated history of The Cure now that you've covered the smiths
Johnny Marr is one of the greatest guitarists that this country and the indie scene has ever produced
...I just found your videos...INSTANT subscriber...very detailed information and massively cool...please do not stop - excellent work sir...👍🏼😎
Saw them live August 86 excellent show
A new video of beat goes on, what a time to be alive
Thank you so much for this video. It bought back so many memories. It also filled in a bunch of gaps
My favorite smiths album is strangeways here we come
Just found your channel from your Black Sabbath video. Could not imagine a more perfect blend of my taste in both music and film. And I love the production and narration on these history lessons. Favorite Smiths song is Death of a Disco Dancer, and favorite Smiths album is probably The Queen Is Dead.
ANOTHER CLASSIC. Waiting on your Nas video.
RIP