No More Banjo Kazooie?

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
  • Is this the end of Banjo Kazooie? On the 25th anniversary of Banjo Kazooie long time Rareware members like Grant Kirkhope seem to think that there's no future for Banjo on Xbox or Switch. BUT I think there is.
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  • @Gruntilda-Winkybunion
    @Gruntilda-Winkybunion Год назад +45

    this makes me really sad, since i watched this interview... we Banjo Fans really deserved a new game, i know alot of loyal fans.. this is devastating..

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +4

      Really hope someone picks up the series

    • @kostismpak1266
      @kostismpak1266 Год назад +1

      @@scasm Grant Kirkhope pointed at UBISOFT Milan's development team in his interview! He said they're the most legible team compared to the sense of humor they used to have back in the old days at Rare!

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 Год назад +1

      @@kostismpak1266 I recommend Demon Turf Neon Splash, Hat in Time, and Tinykin as Banjo successors.

    • @dante224real1
      @dante224real1 11 месяцев назад

      HEY WIFEY HOW'S THE CAOULDRON BOILIN?

  • @CD_ian
    @CD_ian Год назад +7

    My god I am not even as old as the second game, yet hearing "nobody wants it" is crazy...
    There is a MASSIVE audience for it, let new generations grow up with new Banjo!!! They also should of made Grunty's Revenge a GameCube game...

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +3

      so much potential and for some reason they just don't care. it's crazy!

  • @svenmandelkorn3238
    @svenmandelkorn3238 Год назад +5

    That's what you get for crying about Nuts and Bolt. And that game was good

    • @leesydreamy
      @leesydreamy Год назад +2

      Even though I prefer the first 2 games, Nuts and Bolts in my opinion wasn't really bad. It had a decent storyline and cool levels.

  • @roo525
    @roo525 Год назад +47

    Grant Kirkhope did not do Conker's soundtrack. That was Robin Beanland.

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +10

      You’re right! Was talking too fast but good catch

    • @kostismpak1266
      @kostismpak1266 Год назад +3

      And also did you know the opening music and knocking on the screen by Banjo in the Banjo Kazooie game? Grant was inspired from an old song by Swedish Agnetha disco band!😢

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +2

      @@kostismpak1266 oh didn't know that but that's cool!

    • @kostismpak1266
      @kostismpak1266 Год назад

      @@scasm Strange thing is nobody has officially ever refered to that! Not even Grant him self!!! Hey scasm! Do you think we could use that as a threat to bring back Banjo Kazooie?😂🤣🤣😅

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад

      @@kostismpak1266 hahaha we might have to!!

  • @projectdreamstudio
    @projectdreamstudio Год назад +21

    Give the people what they want!!

    • @creed9938
      @creed9938 Год назад +2

      I love you remasters of banjo ❤😊

    • @thawingpanic7799
      @thawingpanic7799 Год назад +2

      WHAT UP PROJECT DREAM! Love your channel also😁

  • @NintendanGX
    @NintendanGX Год назад +16

    You hit the nail on the head here. I don't think anyone with any insight on game development would actually WANT Rare to work on a new Banjo game, at this point. The fact that Greg Mayles was so adamant on shoehorning vehicles into a 3D platformer franchise, and the fact that he nonchelantly said he'd "fix it later" when Sea of Thieves launched a buggy, boring, shallow experience, should have raised red flags for everyone. They're the ones who ruined their own IP's, and even Playtonic, the "former talent who made a spiritual successor" phoned it in when working on Yooka-Laylee. The last thing we need is someone who doesn't even care about 3D platformers working on one, especially when they don't wan't to in the first place.
    Also, as an aside, one of my college tutors was a former Rare employee, and he REALLY didn't like Greg. Any time Greg was the topic of conversation, he'd follow it up by shaking his head and sighing "Never liked him." or when we were talking about the Yooka-Laylee kickstarter and discussing the way they laid out the project plan "So this is Steve Mayles. Couldn't stand his brother." I just thought that was pretty funny.
    In today's market, any 3D platformer, even collectathon platformers, can thrive, and while they might not make Fortnite money, they'll find their target demographic. Enough eyes are on Banjo now that, were Banjo Threeie announced right now, it'd break the internet. The trailer would reach millions of views and counting, so there'd be lots of eyes on the franchise coming back after so long. These tired old hacks at Rare no longer have the foresight to realise how much people want games like this, or realise collectathon platformers have their own unique strengths that appeal to people who love exploration and treasure-hunting. It's why collectathons are my favourite subgenre, I find games like Banjo, Spyro, Jak & Daxter and Tinykin to be mesmerising.
    Super Mario Odyssey is part of that subgenre, and managed to sell tens of millions of copies, with some regarding it as their favourite Mario game of all time (myself included!), and Activision/Toys for Bob proved there's an audience for Spyro and Crash (Crash 4 especially proving a new developer can carry the torch of a franchise). And then you've got the plethora of 3D platformers from the indie scene, like Snake Pass, A Hat In Time, Super Sami Roll, Demon Turf, Here Comes Niko, Tinykin (LOVE this one) and Clive 'N' Wrench just this year. Not all of these are collectathons, but they've all found an audience of people singing their praises to varying degrees of success, made by people with absolute faith in the genre's potential.
    If these Rare devs really think there's no audience for games like this today (which there is, if they did any research beyond their office walls), then they have to realise that they're responsible for that, letting the franchise lie dormant for 14 years after their last game deviated from the core appeal of the series. Nuts & Bolts isn't entirely a bad game, in fact a lot of what I enjoyed about that game can be found in Zelda TOTK. But to slap the Banjo brand on it was a mistake.
    If Devil May Cry, DOOM, Crash Bandicoot, Metroid, and Pikmin can all make a comeback after years of lying dormant, and reach critical and commercial success, there's no reason Banjo can't, especially if given to the right developer.

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +4

      100% agree. There are devs that are more than capable of taking on Banjo and reviving the series in a bigger and better way, and could definitely find a new massive audience for it. All they need to do is make a good game, literally all it comes down to.

  • @williamhutsch851
    @williamhutsch851 Год назад +61

    At the end of banjo tooie when gruntilda said "see you in banjo threeie" it gave so many children, including myself, hope.
    The fact hes saying nobody wants it mind blowing.

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +7

      yeah i don't understand how they can possibly think no one wants it or that there's not an audience for it. the game will foster a new audience by just being good.

    •  Год назад +6

      Gruntildas last cruel joke.

    • @TheIrkenEmpire420
      @TheIrkenEmpire420 Год назад +1

      "See you in Rayman 4!"

    • @macuser7048
      @macuser7048 Год назад +4

      Yooka Laylee got criticized hard by the same people who called 3D platformers a dead genre. Then the Spyro remakes happened and the Crash remakes too. Suddenly everyone loves 3D platformers again. Now is the perfect time for Banjo to come back.

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 Год назад +5

      @@macuser7048 There actually was a Banjo Three in the works called Banjo vs Grunty. However Rare couldn't get Grunty's AI to work well, so the game was canceled.
      Gregg Mayles believes that Banjo Tooie can't be toped.
      Thankfuly are Banjo like games such as Demon Turf Neon Splash, Hat in Time, and Tinykin.

  • @iTvngo
    @iTvngo Год назад +19

    It should be a crime that a Banjo Threeie hasn't happened yet (Nuts and bolts doesn't count).During the switch life cycle was the perfect time. Hopefully they don't wait too long

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 Год назад +1

      Banjo was never met to continue. The original intention for Rare is to create an adventure game called Project Dream on the SNES, but it was moved to the N 64, it wasn't working for some reason. Mostly like because realistic games can be difficult to work on N 64, such as Golden Eye. So Project Dream became Banjo Kazooie.
      However now that the N 64 era has ended, Rare no longer needs the Banjo and Kazooie. Why, DK 64. People did not like the backtracking of that game, and while Banjo Tooie's backtracking isn't as bad. Rare might be worried that another Banjo game would suffer the same problems as DK 64 if not worse. It's sad but it's true, some of the greatest games exists because of hardware limitations.
      Thankfuly are Banjo like games such as Demon Turf Neon Splash, Hat in Time, and Tinykin.

  • @AshkarBehek0
    @AshkarBehek0 Год назад +11

    The "no audience" excuse is honestly such a joke of an excuse. It doesn't make any sense no matter which way you look at it. The first Banjo didn't have an audience. The first Pokemon didn't have an audience. The first Mario didn't have an audience. Great games don't need a preexisting audience to be successful. They craft their own. Banjo is old enough that the newer generation of gamers might not even know who he is and will just assume he's a new IP, just as he was on the n64. And if they meant an audience for the genre, Spyro, Crash and Yooka Laylee proved that there's still a solid audience for 3d platformers and collectatons today.

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +6

      Exactly. Especially since he's in Smash, I'm sure a huge number of people experienced Banjo for the first time through that. There are a million ways to find a new audience. All starts with a great game.

  • @its_apt
    @its_apt Год назад +11

    A new Banjo game would ABSOLUTLY blow up, that's just a given. The excuse of "nobody would care about it" is just stupid, Banjo in Smash and on the Switch Online service proved this wrong, people went crazy over both of them. If people would go crazy over a re-release, they would *absolutly* blow up.
    They don't even have to make it a Banjo-Threeie, as long as it's a good platformer, even if it's 2D or something, people will love it.
    If Rare doesn't want to do anything with the IP, they might as well sell it to another studio, that'll do something with them.

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +4

      Yeah I think it’s crazy for them to think there isn’t an audience for it. It would be huge. Exactly, give it to someone willing to make a great game and make it actually happen

    • @its_apt
      @its_apt Год назад +2

      @@scasm It's really just a big missed opportunity having such beloved characters, yet not doing anything with them. And I'm not talking just about Banjo & Kazooie, a new Conker game would be huge as well. But Rare did say that they don't want to go back to older IPs, so we probably won't see a new Banjo-Kazooie or Conker game unless they sell these IPs.

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +2

      would love a new Conker, one of my favorite games

    • @ChrisPBacon-xn9up
      @ChrisPBacon-xn9up Год назад +1

      @@its_apt i believe rare has said that they would be willing to let other people work on their IP if other dev studios go them and ask. Guess no one has asked.

    • @its_apt
      @its_apt Год назад +2

      @@ChrisPBacon-xn9up The fact that no one asked is even more depressing tbh

  • @SolarFarle
    @SolarFarle Год назад +16

    I don't exactly know how companies work. But it makes me wonder why Microsoft doesn't let their other studies make a new Banjo game instead of just only Rare?

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +2

      It's possible they've asked and no one wanted to take a swing at it

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 Год назад +1

      Microsoft won't touch Banjo without Rare's permission.

    • @megalo_64
      @megalo_64 2 месяца назад +1

      A prime example is Battletoads, which got a revival made by a different studio, so that idea could be reality, and the only thing that could be necessary is the quality control from higher-ups

    • @SolarFarle
      @SolarFarle 2 месяца назад

      @@megalo_64 Oh yeah I forgot that Battletoads reboot was done by a different developer. So anything is a possibility as long as you have the right people willing to bring back Banjo. I never liked this whole only Rare can make Banjo and Conker games.

  • @macuser7048
    @macuser7048 Год назад +7

    Oh but they'll milk their boring pirate simulator for years on end?

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +6

      as long as it keeps generating them boatloads of cash

  • @bobrod2224
    @bobrod2224 Год назад +7

    I would love to see new banjo game. But, you know, rare is just not what it used to be You can't come back It's sad but that's the truth😭😭 Every super smash Bros. Character's franchise keeps going. Except for banjo But you know Maybe 1 day never know😮😮🙂🙂🎆🎇✨️

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +3

      all we can do is hope and wait :(

  • @TroenderTass
    @TroenderTass Год назад +4

    Stop comparing banjo to crash and spyro and other cookie cutter 3d platformers from the playstation. Banjo has alot more sophistication and soul, it's not just the platforming but the entire story and game mechanics, humor and charm. A new banjo shouldn't necassary be a new 3d platformer, but more of an open world setting with its theme. It would obviously be a lot more difficult to recreate than these random generic linear 3d platformers like crash. So retarded that these games even get compared, as bano is a masterpiece of its time, while crash is just a fun "click some buttons" plattformer.

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +1

      i meant is more as in, if those games can exist today, and i agree they're the lesser versions of banjo, then surely banjo has a place in modern gaming

  • @ryanwinter8813
    @ryanwinter8813 Год назад +4

    Grant Kirkhope didn't work on Conker and has only worked on DK64, none of the 2D games.

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад

      you're right!

  • @lyndseycarter1989
    @lyndseycarter1989 Год назад +5

    Microsoft and Rare are so stubborn to make a brand new and real Banjo Kazooie game. It is so frustrating that they don't want to do anything with Banjo. A remake of the first and Tooie would've been nice.

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +1

      Yeah it’s crazy. Exactly, don’t need a new game, just a remaster with nice lighting and some modern textures would be nuts

    • @lyndseycarter1989
      @lyndseycarter1989 Год назад +1

      @@scasm I do think Toys For Bob(after the Activision buyout) or Double Fine Productions could do Banjo justice.

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +1

      @@lyndseycarter1989 yup, both would be a perfect match

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 Год назад

      @@lyndseycarter1989 The original intention for Rare is to create an adventure game called Project Dream on the SNES, but it was moved to the N 64, it wasn't working for some reason. Mostly like because realistic games can be difficult to work on N 64, such as Golden Eye. So Project Dream became Banjo Kazooie.
      However now that the N 64 era has ended, Rare no longer needs the Banjo and Kazooie. Why, DK 64. People did not like the backtracking of that game, and while Banjo Tooie's backtracking isn't as bad. Rare might be worried that another Banjo game would suffer the same problems as DK 64 if not worse. It's sad but it's true, some of the greatest games exists because of hardware limitations.
      Thankfuly are Banjo like games such as Demon Turf Neon Splash, Hat in Time, and Tinykin.

  • @Shamanized
    @Shamanized Год назад +9

    This video so perfectly articulates how I and SO MANY have felt for SO LONG. It's totally baffling to hear them presume there's no audience... Not only is there a massive audience for the Banjo IP itself, but there is also an audience that just wants more of this kind of game genre in general. The combination of solid 3D platforming, distinct level themes, collecting, adventuring, puzzles & tasks, and fantastic music make Banjo-Kazooie and Tooie so freaking precious, you just don't see that combination around anymore but it was absolutely golden. Merge it with some good modern game sensibilities (some customizations and mod support) and you will have an unstoppable franchise.

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +2

      it honestly is so obvious that it would be a huge success that they gotta be actually smokin crack or something to say there's no place for it. a new banjo would be massive

    • @Shamanized
      @Shamanized Год назад

      @@scasm Absolutely. Thank you for making this. Even if we never get a new game at least this was cathartic to watch

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +1

      @@Shamanized well thanks for watching dude, appreciate it

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 Год назад

      @@Shamanized Banjo was never met to continue. The original intention for Rare is to create an adventure game called Project Dream on the SNES, but it was moved to the N 64, it wasn't working for some reason. Mostly like because realistic games can be difficult to work on N 64, such as Golden Eye. So Project Dream became Banjo Kazooie.
      However now that the N 64 era has ended, Rare no longer needs the Banjo and Kazooie. Why, DK 64. People did not like the backtracking of that game, and while Banjo Tooie's backtracking isn't as bad. Rare might be worried that another Banjo game would suffer the same problems as DK 64 if not worse. It's sad but it's true, some of the greatest games exists because of hardware limitations.
      Thankfuly are Banjo like games such as Demon Turf Neon Splash, Hat in Time, and Tinykin.

  • @kostismpak1266
    @kostismpak1266 Год назад +4

    OK GUYS LISTEN UP!!! RECRUIT EVERY BANJO-KAZOOIE FAN TO SCASM'S RUclips CHANNEL AND LET'S SHOW THEM HOW MANY WE ARE OUT THERE IN THE WORLD!!!! Cheers to everyone!

  • @svenmandelkorn3238
    @svenmandelkorn3238 Год назад +7

    If they don't make a new Banjo Kazooie game. There is Yooka Laylee. A Banjo Kazooie type of game made by former Rare devs.

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +3

      Hope they make another one of those, or create a new series. It had flaws but it was still a good game

    • @svenmandelkorn3238
      @svenmandelkorn3238 Год назад +6

      @@scasm the game was great. It was like a modern N64 Rare game. it has ALL the nostalgia and everything else in it. All the Bad reviews were major bullshit.

    • @kostismpak1266
      @kostismpak1266 Год назад +3

      @@svenmandelkorn3238 It just needed a taste of a little more mystery things like Stop n Swop collectibles,moments like how to get the Giant Ice Key or moments like how to get inside the sunken island as in Treasure Trove Cove! Some puzzleboards maybe and stuff like that!

    • @ChaosAndAnarchy
      @ChaosAndAnarchy Год назад +2

      @@svenmandelkorn3238 my only gripe was I would've liked more worlds. Making each world a mash-up of 2 different themes was interesting, but I would've just preferred 8 or 9 like BK.

    • @svenmandelkorn3238
      @svenmandelkorn3238 Год назад +1

      @@ChaosAndAnarchy the second one will have more worlds for sure. I wish it was harder and had more fun and challenging mini games like DK64.

  • @banjo9158
    @banjo9158 Год назад +15

    We want Banjo!

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +2

      we need him!!

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 Год назад

      @@scasm Banjo was never met to continue. The original intention for Rare is to create an adventure game called Project Dream on the SNES, but it was moved to the N 64, it wasn't working for some reason. Mostly like because realistic games can be difficult to work on N 64, such as Golden Eye. So Project Dream became Banjo Kazooie.
      However now that the N 64 era has ended, Rare no longer needs the Banjo and Kazooie. Why, DK 64. People did not like the backtracking of that game, and while Banjo Tooie's backtracking isn't as bad. Rare might be worried that another Banjo game would suffer the same problems as DK 64 if not worse. It's sad but it's true, some of the greatest games exists because of hardware limitations.
      Thankfuly are Banjo like games such as Demon Turf Neon Splash, Hat in Time, and Tinykin.

    • @banjo9158
      @banjo9158 Год назад +1

      @@orangeslash1667 It was, it was recently confirmed that Banjo was supposed to be a series with multiple games, that was said by not just an employee but a Rare founder. the reason of Banjo not getting a new game has nothing to do with DK64, it has more to do with a lot of the people that worked on Rare back in the day, is not part of the company anymore, so there is not a good enough development team under microsoft to work on the franchise.

    • @Enigmaculate
      @Enigmaculate Год назад

      ​@@banjo9158That dude has posted that same comment in almost every Banjo-Kazooie comment discussion thread, seems like he's a glutton for cynicism and pessimism.

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 Год назад

      @@banjo9158 It says on TV tropes that Collecting platformers would eventually lose popularity somewhere in the mid-00's as games like Grand Theft Auto III would expand further on the open-world concept, thus making Collect-a-Thons redundant for the most part.
      However collecting platformers do exist in indie games.

  • @TrashEater2729
    @TrashEater2729 Год назад +4

    All that's needed is a looney toons bear jumping around with an ostrich and can even get that!?!? Sick of this world...

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +1

      so simple but apparently so hard

  • @sully8317
    @sully8317 Год назад +2

    now that xbox own ABK I think that toys for bob, beenox, vicarious visions will be given spyro, crash and banjo ips to play with.

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +2

      would be great if they did

  • @gerbmcnuggets5466
    @gerbmcnuggets5466 Год назад +4

    If no one cares about Banjo Kazooie anymore then why keep pumping out merch? Greedy Rare is greedy

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +2

      exactly

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 Год назад

      Rare still loves the Banjo games since you can play them on Xbox one. The problem is that Xbox fans don't care for platformers, compared to Nintendo fans.

  • @mmxoxo
    @mmxoxo Год назад +2

    We need a new Banjo!!

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +1

      we want it now!!

  • @sweet5754
    @sweet5754 Год назад +2

    I would be happy if they made Banjo X because the idea of it is absolutely genius

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад

      So much potential

  • @thatsDILO
    @thatsDILO Год назад +4

    The only Donkey Kong soundtrack Grant did was for DK64

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +1

      and it was perfect!

  • @Nintendude.
    @Nintendude. Год назад +5

    Sad that for someone that has Hope in his name Grant does not seem to have any.

  • @kostismpak1266
    @kostismpak1266 Год назад +3

    Grant Kirkhope wants it to happen but Gregg doesn't even want anyone to talk about "his" ip! That turned out hard once for everyone at Playtonic and that's how Yooka laylee happened! Steve grabbed the opportunity widend the Studio and brought in new staff! They "came up with the idea" franchising other indie game studios.ip's that would actually help them in making money and new friends as well and especially give them more time to specialize on their upcoming games that literally doesn't have anything to do with the Banjo-Kazooie ip!

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +3

      just seems like such a good and easy opportunity and they find every excuse not to do it

    • @kostismpak1266
      @kostismpak1266 Год назад +2

      @@scasm They want us to believe that there isn't enough interest in the crowd or enough amount of Banjo-Kazooie fans(?)so that causes a worry about the budget cost and the negative perhaps amount of profits it might bring,while they tend to forget that Yooka Laylee was funded in just a couple of hours!!! Those shitheads must be Nuts!

    • @kostismpak1266
      @kostismpak1266 Год назад +2

      @@scasm Anyway you did a great job with this video!!! I think you should do another one titled "RECRUITING ALL BANJO KAZOOIE FANS" and hit where it hurts! I think you have the skills to do that!!!!

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +2

      @@kostismpak1266 that's right, clearly shows that people are desperate for a revival! they're nuts!!

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +1

      @@kostismpak1266 might have to!

  • @Pabloelerizo5716
    @Pabloelerizo5716 Год назад +2

    I literally bought a Nintendo 64 a few weeks ago just to play Banjo and Kazzoie. If that doesn't say I want and would buy a new game, I don't know what it says.

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +1

      there are dozens of us!

  • @nathanielwash940
    @nathanielwash940 Год назад +2

    Banjos n64 games are some of my favorite games but if you really think banjo can be the face of Microsoft in 2023 then you definitely are mistaken, this type of game is not as popular as you seem to think it is. Sure every game has its online audience of fans who like it but the cartoony platformer is not a heavy hitter sales wise anymore. A new game could do decent with sales but the average person who plays games this generation will not care for banjo kazooie. If you only focus on the corner of the internet that wants a new game then your perception will be clouded.

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +3

      Yeah I don’t think obviously Banjo would be the true face of Xbox, but I think there is a very wide audience that’s looking for a very solid platformer series that isn’t Mario and Banjo could easily fill that spot. Plenty of opportunity for Xbox to take that space

    • @nathanielwash940
      @nathanielwash940 Год назад +2

      @@scasm I partially agree I just have my doubts about Xbox’s demographic being interested in cartoon platformers the ones who have Xbox consoles don’t usually gravitate to that, but if banjo was somehow connected with Nintendo again then I do believe it could do well with that audience.

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +1

      @@nathanielwash940 Yeah, that's true. I don't think the core Xbox fanbase would go nuts for a new Banjo, but Xbox isn't dumb, and could definitely see it being a Game Pass/Switch game.

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 Год назад

      @@nathanielwash940 Banjo was never met to continue. The original intention for Rare is to create an adventure game called Project Dream on the SNES, but it was moved to the N 64, it wasn't working for some reason. Mostly like because realistic games can be difficult to work on N 64, such as Golden Eye. So Project Dream became Banjo Kazooie.
      However now that the N 64 era has ended, Rare no longer needs the Banjo and Kazooie. Why, DK 64. People did not like the backtracking of that game, and while Banjo Tooie's backtracking isn't as bad. Rare might be worried that another Banjo game would suffer the same problems as DK 64 if not worse. It's sad but it's true, some of the greatest games exists because of hardware limitations.
      Thankfuly are Banjo like games such as Demon Turf Neon Splash, Hat in Time, and Tinykin.

  • @Tubbymora
    @Tubbymora Год назад +6

    All Im gonna say is... if Psychonauts can get a sequel, then Banjo can get a Threeie!!! Hold strooong!

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +3

      don’t stop believin!

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 Год назад

      The good news is that Gregg Mayles is working on Everwild.

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад

      @@orangeslash1667 would love to finally learn more about whatever that game currently is

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 Год назад

      @@scasm In the meant I recommend Demon Turf Neon Splash. It's 3d collect a ton published by Playtonic games. Who consist of Rare developers.
      The another one is Shantae: Half-Genie Hero. It has transformations reminiscent of the Mumbo transformations.

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад

      @@orangeslash1667 Never heard of Demon Turf, I'll check it out.
      Shantae is great!

  • @teamsonicchannel4400
    @teamsonicchannel4400 Год назад +2

    Toys for bob might revive him like crash and spyro

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +1

      would be awesome

  • @RelaxAlexX
    @RelaxAlexX Год назад +2

    I want a new banjo game or a remake. I never play Banjo but I’m interested tho

  • @GamerX-cr8zy
    @GamerX-cr8zy Год назад +1

    The third game could be called "Banjo-Threeie Third Times The Charm" if it was made edit: just saying

  • @itslovo
    @itslovo Год назад +2

    i love b-k its my life

  • @dillonkinder9296
    @dillonkinder9296 Год назад +2

    The one thing people can’t forget and deny is that Banjo is a best friend of DK and Diddy Kong same with Conker

  • @Cleetuss
    @Cleetuss Год назад +2

    I WANT A NEW GAME i can only keep dreaming

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад

      🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @WolfLonk
    @WolfLonk Год назад +1

    We can get a Crossover with Banjo Kazooie, Crash Bandicoot and Spyro if Microsoft owns Activision...

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +1

      might end up happening

  • @CdrChaos
    @CdrChaos Год назад +3

    Start with a proper remaster of the existing games to gauge interest.

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +1

      wouldn't be a bad idea at all, i think if they took the original and streamlined some of the elements to be more friendly a modern/casual audience, they'd have a huge hit.

    • @CdrChaos
      @CdrChaos Год назад +2

      @@scasm Much like Crash and Spyro, the original game doesn't need modernization, not anything beyond what they already did to add Achievements anyway.
      Add a fresh coat of paint and you'll have fans buying it if only for the sake of nostalgia. It's a lot easier to convince a publisher to bank on a new entry when you have the numbers to show there's still demand for the IP.

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад

      @@CdrChaos i agree, because i think the game is great and people would enjoy, but i also feel that because of how people are today there would be a lot of "THIS GAME IS STUCK IN THE PAST TOO MANY COLLECTIBLES TOO MUCH BS" and all that crap. so a slight streamlining could go a long way, but realistically you're right. not necessary, just needs to look prettier

    • @CdrChaos
      @CdrChaos Год назад +1

      @@scasm Well you do have the option to skip getting 100% and still completing the game.

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +1

      @@CdrChaos that's true!

  • @Jd-kw9yz
    @Jd-kw9yz Год назад +1

    Halo infinite did better than the entire banjo kazooie series

  • @SecondController
    @SecondController Год назад +2

    Kirkhope didn't do Conker's

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +1

      you’re right, my bad!

  • @towardstar
    @towardstar 10 месяцев назад +1

    Rare knows they couldn't make a good Banjo game again. I dont buy those other reasons (excuses).

    • @scasm
      @scasm  10 месяцев назад

      Yeah, can’t figure out how to turn it into a live service game so why bother? So dumb

  • @hypershadow87
    @hypershadow87 Год назад +1

    *I would definitely NOT go crazy for a side scroller Banjo game. I want a true part 3 to the first two or no. But they won't do it. Yooka-Laylee failed according to everyone even though it was a good game, so I'm not holding out any hope a Banjo-Threeie unfortunately.*

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад

      all we can do is hope that banjo comes back bigger and better than ever

  • @SuperParkerBro27
    @SuperParkerBro27 Год назад +1

    I think (and hope) what grants saying is that no COMPANY wants banjo as they dont see potential in it

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +1

      which is a crazy thing for him to say though, there's for sure studios that want it and could do great things with it

  • @benbj3220
    @benbj3220 11 месяцев назад +1

    If it was me I'll be happy to work for a team to make new games for this franchise to make up some new ideas

    • @scasm
      @scasm  11 месяцев назад +1

      Same, think there’s a ton of potential for new games

  • @negentropyagent7337
    @negentropyagent7337 Год назад +1

    Creators that are out of touch with their audience... classic

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад

      yup classic

  • @Spartanlyra
    @Spartanlyra Год назад +1

    a generation too greedy without creativity thats the main reason

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +1

      sad but true

  • @knellycornnan5132
    @knellycornnan5132 11 месяцев назад +1

    This is so sad cause these are partly the same group of people who brought this game to life. They had so much creativity and success with the game. Yet they just don't see a future with it. Its mindboggling.

    • @scasm
      @scasm  11 месяцев назад +1

      It's sad. So much potential, but nothing gets made. Like even now, people think that because suddenly Xbox owns Activision they'll make new Crash and Spyro and stuff, but there's no way. It's the same thing with Banjo. It's just not happening

    • @knellycornnan5132
      @knellycornnan5132 11 месяцев назад

      @@scasm Initially I thought it was microsoft buying rare that caused the cancelation of the banjo kazooie franchise, but no. Apparently a lot of the folks at rare are the ones who felt this way. Those who didn't are at playtonic and Yooka Laylee didn't quite cut it for me.

    • @scasm
      @scasm  11 месяцев назад +1

      yeah unfortunately yooka laylee didn't live up to expectations. still hoping that one day Banjo comes back in a big way @@knellycornnan5132

  • @fastrack2170
    @fastrack2170 9 месяцев назад

    So much for a new Switch Remake. They got lazy, just say it. This just proves the fans do it better. There's already a Remaster Model of the Original Banjo Kazooi here on RUclips.

  • @AbleAnderson
    @AbleAnderson 10 месяцев назад

    Not every donkey Kong song; David Wise did DK Country 2, which had the best soundtrack possibly of any game ever. Don’t paint with such broad brush

  • @daviddillon4827
    @daviddillon4827 7 месяцев назад

    Get ride of the nuts and bots I think maybe idk work on the game play but I am thinking of like the dk 64 how you did not run as a team like in the old ones but eney ways have gruntllda troll kid naps kazooie of course thers parts wear you can play the team but you keep get split up and have to get back to each outer or maybe instead of transfrom to the dragon banjo teams up with a dragon to safe kazooie becues i can reminder in tooie spliting up and the transformation if kazooie

  • @eeveefennecfox
    @eeveefennecfox Год назад +1

    this makes me extremely sad

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +1

      :( all we can do is hope

  • @inconsequest
    @inconsequest Год назад +1

    People dont want these games any more. Its sad but true.

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +1

      I want em dude

    • @eeveefennecfox
      @eeveefennecfox Год назад +1

      it's not true,I've been dying for a new banjo game for years

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +1

      same would love a new one @@eeveefennecfox

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 Год назад

      @@eeveefennecfox Gregg wants to move on to other projects like Everwild.

  • @henrykite-lk3mx
    @henrykite-lk3mx Год назад +2

    I’ve never played this game but I’m looking forward to playing it ! I just finished Conkers bad fur day the 64 version and Xbox version!

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +1

      I love Conker, such a great game. Banjo definitely worth checking out!

  • @sean-keykong5090
    @sean-keykong5090 5 месяцев назад

    Lots of games could just get that sequel or another game, the biggest part is finding a team that has new Ideas to build into the game mechanics.
    Titles I’d like to see are Another 3D Donkey Kong game.
    Banjo Kazooie main title game. Even though he is in 7 games so far! He is over due for a plat former.
    Conker, Diddy Kong Racing, Kid Icarus, Ice Climbers. Possibly could have another game.

    • @scasm
      @scasm  5 месяцев назад

      so many possibilities with those series, really hope they get some games again

  • @drop9502
    @drop9502 7 месяцев назад

    Open world banjo Kazooie. They could make Kazooie's different shoes an obtainable item and make flying without a flight pad a move you learn to access new areas. Still have levels, jiggies and progression... Doesn't even need to be open world. Just build onto where tooie left off.

    • @scasm
      @scasm  7 месяцев назад

      so many possibilities, but who knows if itll ever happen :(

  • @thepainpanda7681
    @thepainpanda7681 5 месяцев назад

    You know, the recent smiling friends episode (the one with gwimbly in it) made a really good point on what rare and other gaming companies are doing, sitting on their old IPs’ doing nothing with them and pushing cash cows filled with dlc and micro transactions. That’s probably why they don’t think “it has an audience” it does, just not the kind they want

    • @scasm
      @scasm  5 месяцев назад

      yup, not the kind that will grind dailies and put endless cash into the item shop. can't really monetize these games that way

  • @wallygator92
    @wallygator92 6 месяцев назад

    Turok is another video game franchise that probably gone for good.

    • @scasm
      @scasm  6 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah sad but true

  • @kylewilliams1674
    @kylewilliams1674 9 месяцев назад

    Rareware just needs to go back with Nintendo! Remember them on the N64 every game they put out was awesome then Microsoft bought and they just sucked ever since.

    • @scasm
      @scasm  9 месяцев назад

      Yup, a shell of their former selves

    • @kylewilliams1674
      @kylewilliams1674 9 месяцев назад

      @@scasm makes me worry about where Bethesda may head to.

  • @calmghosts
    @calmghosts 10 месяцев назад

    Banjo tooie basically made up my childhood.

    • @scasm
      @scasm  10 месяцев назад

      such a great game

  • @RoronoaPablo
    @RoronoaPablo Год назад

    Your so wrong!

  • @jessicacortese1168
    @jessicacortese1168 Год назад

    This video couldn't have better expressed my own frustration man! Banjo has such a reputation, not only among who actually played BK and BT. I really don't think the reason behind Rare's refusal to fulfill my lifelong wish is a lack of audience... there's no way...

  • @滝野智-y7n
    @滝野智-y7n Год назад

    EXACTLY

  • @kolkagaming1234
    @kolkagaming1234 10 месяцев назад

    Banjo Kazooie is not the only game franchise that has suffered not having a new entry in years.
    A great example being MegaMan

    • @scasm
      @scasm  10 месяцев назад +1

      it's crazy how little capcom seems to care about megaman

    • @kolkagaming1234
      @kolkagaming1234 10 месяцев назад

      @@scasm yep, although they do release their older game which is still good, but they should make something new at some point

    • @scasm
      @scasm  10 месяцев назад

      so many possibilities for a megaman game, hopefully it makes a comeback @@kolkagaming1234

  • @kierenbuckley370
    @kierenbuckley370 Год назад +1

    you think Microsoft would make a new Banjo Kazooie game for Nintendo? LMAO

  • @mr_chicke
    @mr_chicke Год назад

    I think the right way to go is rerelease the original games on switch on the eshop , and I guess nuts and bolts. Then remake the first two games. Then if those sell well, make a third and complete the trilogy. Then banjo and Kazooie can rest for maybe another 25 years before banjo Fourie.

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад

      good plan

  • @daniele86it13
    @daniele86it13 11 месяцев назад

    Microsoft kills everything it touches

    • @scasm
      @scasm  11 месяцев назад

      hope they can turn things around in 2024

    • @daniele86it13
      @daniele86it13 11 месяцев назад

      @@scasm they don't. We can just play the soul of banjo. Yooka

    • @scasm
      @scasm  11 месяцев назад

      just not the same :( @@daniele86it13

  • @letrasrojas306
    @letrasrojas306 Год назад

    You just earned a new subscriber my friend. We should all get together and do something to let him know he’s utterly wrong

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад

      thanks dude, appreciate it! we really should

  • @thawingpanic7799
    @thawingpanic7799 Год назад

    I literally shared this video on Rare's twitter for ya.

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад

      oh thanks dude, appreciate it!

  • @mrmylamp3
    @mrmylamp3 Год назад

    Based

  • @JMPT
    @JMPT Год назад +1

    Extra Nice 🖥️

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад

      heck yeah dude 🖥️🖥️🖥️

    • @JMPT
      @JMPT Год назад

      🖥️🖥️🖥️

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 Год назад

      @@JMPT Banjo was never met to continue. The original intention for Rare is to create an adventure game called Project Dream on the SNES, but it was moved to the N 64, it wasn't working for some reason. Mostly like because realistic games can be difficult to work on N 64, such as Golden Eye. So Project Dream became Banjo Kazooie.
      However now that the N 64 era has ended, Rare no longer needs the Banjo and Kazooie. Why, DK 64. People did not like the backtracking of that game, and while Banjo Tooie's backtracking isn't as bad. Rare might be worried that another Banjo game would suffer the same problems as DK 64 if not worse. It's sad but it's true, some of the greatest games exists because of hardware limitations.
      Thankfuly are Banjo like games such as Demon Turf Neon Splash, Hat in Time, and Tinykin.

    • @JMPT
      @JMPT Год назад

      @@orangeslash1667 in the Pokemon games why don't you need to the feed the pokemon

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 Год назад

      @@JMPT That has nothing to due with Banjo.

  • @Th3EriX.
    @Th3EriX. Год назад

    Guh huh!

  • @MDT_STUDIOS_TAG
    @MDT_STUDIOS_TAG Год назад +1

    hey banjo nuts and bolts is awsome >:0

    • @eeveefennecfox
      @eeveefennecfox Год назад +2

      if nuts&bolts was awsome then why did it kill the entire franchise? it's microsoft's fault,it's no wonder rare thinks this way about fans,it's microsoft's fault for killing it

    • @MDT_STUDIOS_TAG
      @MDT_STUDIOS_TAG Год назад +1

      it didnt >:(@@eeveefennecfox

    • @SolarFarle
      @SolarFarle 2 месяца назад

      @@MDT_STUDIOS_TAG Don't listen to them. They're just another annoying pest that complains about everything.

    • @MDT_STUDIOS_TAG
      @MDT_STUDIOS_TAG 2 месяца назад +1

      @@SolarFarle yeah thx for reminding me that fact :)

    • @SolarFarle
      @SolarFarle 2 месяца назад

      @@MDT_STUDIOS_TAG No problem.

  • @k42uy4
    @k42uy4 Год назад +1

    No he's right- nobody actually gives a fuck about Banjo Kazooie and it's overrated and especially not in the 21st century, it would be just a generic 3d platformer, yes some people buy those, but it's nothing to right home about

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +4

      I mean perfect time to reinvent the franchise then in an exciting way. Doesn’t have to be a collectathon, can do anything with it and make it fresh and new

    • @mr.birdie8372
      @mr.birdie8372 11 месяцев назад

      @@scasmThats pretty much what they did with Nuts and Bolts. The reception on that wasn’t the best.

  • @daymanfighterofthenightman
    @daymanfighterofthenightman Год назад +2

    I hate Rareware for this im so sick of sea of thieves

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад +2

      never could get in to sea of thieves. the gameplay loop just never clicked for me

    • @daymanfighterofthenightman
      @daymanfighterofthenightman Год назад

      @@scasm not only that but I feel like that's all they've been doing. It's all that's ever on Raretheif now. Rareware just used to have a lot of mystery that is gone now. I am glad we got Battletoads and Killer Instinct though..
      Did you see those 64 dev carts that Tim Stamper showed off in those videos??

    • @scasm
      @scasm  Год назад

      that's true. im interested in whatever they do with Everwild, but who knows when or if that's even still coming out. oh yeah with twelve tales? so cool @@daymanfighterofthenightman