The short old man was the best thing in this scene. He doesn't even care that someone just got clipped in front of him, he's only worried about the money.
He's an old man who's been selling dope in Baltimore probably since before any of the dudes out there were even born. I'd venture to guess that that isn't the first time he's seen someone get dropped.
@Attila Vasquez meh... I'd equate Brienne to Brother Mouzone - resolute, skilled, proficient, and loyal to their own code. They'll even partner up with a stranger, in pursuit of sticking to their principles Bronn tho, that'll be Clay Davis for me. Both are crooks to the very end who will align themselves with whoever is profitable at the moment. They both don't care much about the major conflict in their respective stories, only how to profit from it
It might not be as sentimental and heart warming as you think. I saw an interesting explanation on this other day that I hadn't thought of before. Slim wasn't as loyal or as much of a soldier as he let on. He was actually really clever, he wanted to wear the crown, and he was scheming the entire time. This is the final part of his subtle scheme. He knows cheese is the biggest threat to him running things, and he took this opportunity to take him out while making it look like he did it for Joe. He also sent a strong message to the other dealers by executing one of them in cold blood in front of them. He switched from Avon to Joe, he was muscle for hire (a mercenary) so why would he have had any loyalty to Joe? Remember when Joe leaves cheese in charge and says Slim is gonna watch cheese? Well where was slim when cheese gave Joe up to Marlo, how did slim not know about Cheese scheming with Marlo if he was watching Cheese? Unless he did know and chose to let it happen, knowing that Marlo wouldn't last long and then he could take the reigns while looking like he ascended out of loyalty and grit.
They're worried about business. And they've all probably got bodies in their background too. So it makes sense they're worried about their business first. Cheese? You think you're going lose sleep over a rival dealer who's proven himself to be treacherous? Though they're going to be careful what they say or do around Slim Charles after that, though.
Michael Brown as long as you loyal then you shouldn’t have a problem with slim. A treacherous fuck like cheese was gonna get his comeuppance one way or another
dvs zunkfukt Remember the chess conversation D'Angelo had with Wallace and Bodie in season 1? I like to think that Slim Charles was the pawn that made it to the other side and became a queen piece that they referenced. He survived the whole way through by playing it smart and not getting overly emotional or crazy, and by the end of the series he was at the head of the co-op negotiating the connect with the Greeks.
+dvs zunkfukt He knew his position and his lane at all times thats the only way you progress specially on tha rip or in tha street. He knew that business and emotional ties were 2 different things thats why bodie ultimately got killed instead of going with prop joe like slim did when tha barksdale empire went down he stayed independent and started his own little mob that wasn't equipped weapon or man power wise to deal with Marlo n them when they eventually took his corner. Slim knew that business is business and him and bodie were still cool because of that till bodie got killed Slim fucked with Barksdale tough but he made decisions off survival and business.
You're gonna need more than "wrong" to change my mind. Cheese was small time. He did not even have his own crew. Then all fo a sudden he has $900k? That was more than guys running other crews. Charles was on to him, when he pulled out his gun that was the last straw.
but in my mind he shouldn't have said "that was for joe" instead when cheese is doing his little speech "when it was my uncle I was with my uncle...when it was Marlo I was with him...but now-...." Slim shoulda pulled the gun out and then said "man you talk to much nigga" POP against the side of the dome would of made me spit my drink out from laughter
cheese been running dope for his uncle a long time, he was making money on the side off Marlo, he had his own area taken over from hungry man on top so no doubt cheese had cheese plus whatever marlo paid him for setting up Joe - of course he probably got hold of joes cash but joe had a lot of that banked abroad where cheese would not be able to get hold of it
This is about as close as The Wire gets to having a feel-good moment. *Edit:* A bunch of replies mention Bubbles going up the stairs at the end of Season 5. Yep, that's also a feel-good moment. As is Namond giving a speech for his high school debate club, while Colvin and his wife proudly watch. Would've been better to say that Slim Charles meting out some Old Testament justice to Cheese was The Wire's *best* feel-good moment, rather than its only one.
The fact that his hand is still twitching as they all calmly leave while mumbling their slight annoyance about the whole situation is one of the coldest things I have ever seen on TV.
Slim was always the man that new how to play his position. Always read the room. Always told people what they didn't want to hear instead of what they wanted to hear. And Knew when to strike. MVP of The Wire!
Chesse lied. "Saying Omar put a end to Joe time" You ask me that was the last straw for Slim. Chesse was the one that gave Joe up to Marlo. Then have the nerve to lie about in front of everyone who knew the truth. Fat Rick especially cause Omar told him.
@@mikeymc3094 Don't even have to be black for that to be impactful. And if any non-black Americans don't understand the significance of that line, they need to learn some real history.
@J MORT Snoop was loyal, always did what she was told, and was literally a No bullshit soldier Who really didnt do shit wrong. Meanwhile Cheese had No morals and No loyalty, All he cared for was money to the point he would sell out his own family to get a bigger slice of the pie. He had it coming ever since Prop Joe got mudered.
I liked when stringer finally got his, dude was out of control, damn ruined the Barksdale Organization and Avon’s name with his greed and conniving behavior
@@VNVNation2013 deffinetly see your point, not standing up to the King when it was time was what got her killed No Doubt. But does it make her death more satisfying than Cheese? Imo No. But I guess this is a matter of personal opinion, which i guess is just even more proof why The Wire is a genius show.
Always thought that Slim Charles was a cool character. A gangster and a killer, but smart, efficient and with a sense of honor/loyalty. This scene was cool and showed his true colors.
The best part about this scene is that Slim and Cheese are polar opposites; one is cowardly and disloyal who changes his colors to suit whatever environment he's in in order to survive, while the other is fearless and faces the world with his own sense of right and wrong and sticks with it to the grave. One dodges his obstacles, the other tackles them directly. Cheese just doesn't have what it takes to be the boss but wants to desperately be it, while Slim faces all of his challenges head on like a true king but doesn't pretend to be one. He just is.
@@WhyBigjordan Right. He couldn't give Cheese up because he was responsible for turning Omar onto the heist. He wasn't being all the way honorable, just not all the way snake-ish.
@@WhyBigjordan Joe should've called Omar's bluff, because Omar would've have to get close to Marlo in order to deliver that message, which would've been hard to do after he robbed Marlo. You think Marlo was going to let him live long enough to state his peace? Joe wasn't thinking. He was too scared. He was a real bitch for a kingpin. Marlo and Avon were the only two kings in B-more with heart.
Slim literally was listening for confirmation on him being the reason Joe died .. slim always listened but never questioned nothing that’s how he became king in the end even tho he didn’t want to be
Just occured to me that Slim Charles only carried out Joe's order. In S5E04 they both suspect Cheese being the one who whispered to Marlo about Butchie, but Prop Joe said he'd only act against kin on more than words. Joe also knew Cheese well enough to predict that he would show money if he was actually responsible and told Charles to watch him. So when he showed money, Slim dropped him.
Looking late asf but he knew about Cheese’s deed during the meeting after Prop’s death when Marlo said the infamous "price of the brick going up". Slim stayed humble during Marlo’s takeover of the co-op and Cheese was next in line after Prop Joe’s death, even before the east side niggas. He peeped game at that moment.. just nice reading comments from fellow real cultured niggas
slim waits for cheese to put the gun down so the other dude doesn’t get shot by cheese from shock. Slim too real he doesn’t care about the 900,000. He knows he’s saved the whole crew from a treacherous snake.
gutz1981 obviously cheese and joes relationship was strained. Cheese always came off as a bastard nephew to joe as far as i saw. He seemed to be more of a nuisance to joe than an asset.
C Taylor I agree. Joe would give him chances to step up like how Slim did but he kept playing the pawn that didn't have the ambition to make it to the other side. So I can understand why Joe didn't want to give him too much responsibility.
Justin Barrett actually i thought it was more because he was incompetent. He gets driven off by brother malzoune (of course it is brother molzoune), he loses the coops's shipment, i could list many other things but i dont have the time.
Slim's true muscle with heart. If Avon ain't got busted precisely when he did, Slim'd be capping Marlo's cowardly sociopathic ass! I wouldn't have given Clay Davis much hope either with the whole "Shit String! Murder ain't no thang, but this be some assassination shit..." As Avon pointed out: "You need a Day of the Jackal type muthafucka to pull of something like that basically, not a ruff n tumble nigga like Slim!" 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah I sussed that too, He coulda blown him away anytime during his diatribe, but waited just long enough for Cheese not to harm anyone and admit he's without loyalty. Boom. That was for Joe.
One thing that struck me the second time watching the wire is that the villains on the drug side of the game get their dues. While the villains on the legit side get promoted and rewarded.
Bodie was the ideal/complete street soldier and he was shot in the head. Cutty, namond and poot “won” because they left the game without snitching or going to prison. It was straight retirement.
@@respectedgentleman4322 You’re right, Should have said again. He lost his “nerve” after serving that time. Or more like he was rehabilitated. In any event, he did “win” minus the getting shot in the leg. That’s where he and the audience learned, these young guys don’t care about past accolades or being an OG. If you’re a “civilian” you don’t matter.
One of my favourite moments in tv history hands down. The “what you do that for”, slims face in response, caring about the money and not all about cheese it’s the perfect combination of comedy and drama
I think this scene shows how machiavellian Slim is. Joe told him to keep an eye on Cheese after Butchie's death. He knew that, if Cheese got suddenly richer, it would be a reward from Marlo. Plus, you see that Slim managed to gather all the money needed to buy the supply afterwards. I think Slim was bluffing, he made everyone believe that there weren't enough money because he knew that Cheese would jump on the opportunity and unmask himself. Then, Slim just had to kill Cheese in front of everyone for the checkmate. Therefore, Slim sent two strong messages: "This is what a traitor gets" and "I am the top dog now." Slim's definitely a great player.
I have been thinking about this a little more, and I think Fat Face Rick is part of the set-up too. I mean, think about the frequency of his remarks which are intended for Cheese, and the way he is saying them, like there is no particular intent behind what he says, I mean, he knows it would be pointless to damage Cheese's reputation and legitimacy head-on. And, of course, who's sitting next to Slim in front of the Greeks? Rick. The Co-op became a bicephalous organization once again, with one west-sider and one east-sider on top, like it was at the beginning with String and Joe.
I've been thinking about this again (lol) and I think that every single player who's part of the deal between the Co-op and the Greeks should be grateful towards Slim Charles for what he did to Cheese. If the Greeks had to deal with Cheese, that business wouldn't have lasted long for sure. To me that's just another proof that Slim Charles acted as a kingpin here.
Great analysis. Slim was looking at Chesse side ways since the meeting and once he said he was down with Marlo after Prop Joe, that's when Slim popped his ass.
SinisterHustle Yes, the cycle continues, and it's even more than that, "The game is the same, it just got more fierce". To me a guy like Slim can last longer in this game than a guy like Avon, he's got more flex in him and he's not hot-tempered like Avon. What i found remarkably interesting about Slim is not what he says, but what's behind what he says and what he does. By the way Avon is maybe the only one to have noticed it, when he said "stop double-talking me!" in season 3 when Slim had to tell that Avon's organization lacked muscle.
I imagine he probably already hated Cheese like everyone else and only saw him as a bag of money which is why he didn't care Cheese got capped, other than the fact that he just lost money.
Yeah I went back and re-watched it at first they didn't show Chris's face I had to watch another video of it people got clipped left and right in that show just like The Sopranos that's why those shows were cool
It wasn’t. It’s implied that Cheese’s 900K was money Mario paid him for betraying Joe. After Butchie is killed Slim and Joe talk about the likelihood of Cheese whispering to Marlo.
No it’s not marlo paid 50k for that info on butchie. The 900k was likely from joe who had it when he died granted marlo let him keep it. Because in that scene cheese asks joe if he wants him to take that bag and he says no.
Maybe that’s why Marlo asked for 1 million for the connect. He knew that cheese had come up on that bread! And telling slim that number Marlo knew Cheese would bring it up and they would catch on and kill cheese!!?!?
@@nikicarrie4071 It is supposed to peel back and expand and blossom out, increasing the diameter of the bullet so it makes a bigger hole and does more damage in the target. It also increases drag so that there's less chance of it exiting the target and causing collateral damage. I say "supposed" because they don't always work for various reasons, but in the case of shooting someone in the head like that it probably would. But honestly even FMJ in the head like that can usually kill pretty easily.
@@gc99289Even if Cheese had survived that fool would’ve not been the same or at least not threatening enough to do anything about being shot. He got shot point blank range he would’ve had to go thru multiple surgeries and physical therapy just to bounce back.
This is why The Wire was so consistently brilliant, it portrayed the real reality of the street game. Cheese was all prepared for the big monologue, the big "It's our time now, it's MY time now", he was ready and willing and thinking he was about to step up and be the next big boss, the next head honcho shot caller... and five seconds later he's dead. That's real. That's realer than real. That's the drug game. And that's why The Wire is one of the best shows of all time.
Lot of player think they're invincible but very few make it out alive and prosperous. Its brutal but its not like society is doing anything to make life better.
@@geordiejones5618 The US is one of the richest countries in the world and if you get a job at McDonalds you earn more money than people that work making software in other countries, what the hell are you talking about implying life is hard? Lmao just get a job and learn how to manage your money.
I don't think I've ever been so happy to see a fictional character get killed. The only thing that could have made this scene better is if the bullet went through Cheese's head and somehow killed Valchek as well.
Wtf you talking about? That one guy was mad, but only because of money. Also, everybody had a reaction, they just weren't sad. Learn what reaction means.
Funny thing is too, if Marlo hadn't been taken out of the Game he would would have absolutely killed Cheese, and I have no doubt that was in his plans the whole time. Marlo wants people like Chris and Snoop who can be relied on to follow orders, he had some respect for Joe and knew what an incompetent, impulsive, treacherous snake his nephew was, and while he used those traits to his advantage there's no way he would have wanted someone like that in his organization. Cheese siding with a Machiavellian sociopath versus his loyal to a fault uncle shows more than anything what an utter moron he was.
Don't lose sight of the fact that this was in the finale. There's an added, satisfying subtext here where now Cheese is making a play to be the one who replaces Marlo..who replaced Prop Joe and Avon... So in this moment, in Cheeses head this was the beginning of his rise to power, but before he can even say "but now, you stand with me" he just gets shot in the head... subconsciously, you watch this and know that Slim Charles completely shutdown this next takeover in one second, where as we had just watched five years of there being one "Cheese" after another fighting to be top dog. It's super satisfying to, for once, see that process beginning and then get completely shut down in the same scene. Especially when it's a hated character, and especially when it's treated as a comedic moment like this. Brill. I. Ant. Writing
You couldn't be more wrong. The fact is that even with the choppy dialogue (I'll give you that much), Meth made the scene work. Aside from that it was a crescendo that satisfied the viewer. Prop Joe was too likeable to be betrayed by his own flesh and blood. Sentiment does count when you are building an allegory.
Rob Rose I think what makes this moment so brilliant is that the whole co-op is just concerned with money. No one is upset that Slim just shot a guy in front of all of them, but that he might have cost them money. And in the end, they all disperse, as though nothing has happened. No one cares about the twitching dead body in front of them, it's all about how they can recuperate after Cheese's death. Brilliant scene. It's the absolute indifference toward life that people show, but the real concern they have toward money and power.
This is the reason Omar lived as long as he did, and why cheese had to go, during this scene he was talking about how he changes sides on a whim, how he only cares about his end. A man must have a code. Cheese didn't have a code, so he was unpredictable, meaning he had to go.
Also that scene with the co - op, you saw when Slim said he wasn't cutout to be a CEO, then Cheese accepted like nothing after Marlo pretty much confessed to being the one that took out Joe. That really rubbed Slim the wrong way.
@@Dre_Key he did both. he knew what to look for. he confessed without confessing. but even Marlo can't just throw that out there. even thought the lucky bastard was still standing at the end.
I love how all the old heads knew it would cost the money, but knew it also had to happen. They knew he had to go! Every single one of them. The old heads are rational thinkers. They have lived a long time, just to get to the spot they are in. And no one even needs to talk to anyone in particular, they all know it's time to head out and they'll have another meeting to discuss everything in a few days. I just love that.
As Slim said to Bodie, the thing about the old days, them old days. You can't keep looking for the good old day and have to be realistic about changed in the world.
Exactly. Cheese was arguing against the very concept that allowed Joe to survive so long, and because of it he robbed himself of the one thing that would've allowed him to survive. If he'd stood over his own corpse, he'd have had nothing to say against it, because Slim Charles was simply acting based on the philosophy that Cheese was espousing.
lol naw man. You got it totally twisted. Its the complete opposite. Slim Charles dented Cheese's head literally cuz of nostalgia. He said it himself. The two mans lived by different codes. And thats why Cheese got blindsided because he couldn't see the game any other way than how he saw it.
@Jay yeah, when he says ceo, it's in reference to serving under Marlo, which is why he said no disrespect, he knew to dip out but do business on his own ends as part of the co op instead of jumping when marlo says jump
Cheese talked too much, basically said he only loyal to who feeding him at the time and will turn his back on anyone at any moment. then had the nerve to speak on his dead uncle with his dead uncle's right hand man standing next to him. he did it to himself.
i feel like it’s also a good parallel to Bodie since he was hesitant and always stood his ground, he was loyal to the GAME not whoever is at the top, and he went out like a soulja
I have watched every major crime show there is but nothing comes close to The Wire, its on another level. Every scene means something, every episode counts. Brilliant writing, directing and acting.
+TaRAAASHBAGS it showed what really went on my crew at one time were G' s like the before we became to carelsswith money and drugs i guess bitches came first to us ha ha ha
Slim was always a pawn, but was the smart one who made it to the other side of the board. He stayed quiet until a wannabe king (cheese) tried to get to take over and...then he took him out wisely, as a pawn would, not directly face to face but rather at a diagonal position while the king was focusing on what he perceived to be a threat.... Then bang, checkmate.
The weirdest thing about all this is that the New Day Co-op was probably one of the only lasting changes made to the institutions of Baltimore. Even when Stringer died the co-op stayed and even when Marlo tried to shut it down it came right back. And the co-op keeps getting stronger as shown in the next scene where Slim talks to the Greeks, with two of the other guys from the co-op with him. Now the connect isn't monopolized by one person and the West Baltimore drug trade is even more democratic.
The co-op allows the Baltimore kingpins to buy low and sell high, watch each other's backs, and avoid turf wars that bring police attention... It's a beneficial set-up for all involved (except when it's infiltrated by snakes like Marlo or Cheese)
I like how the guy who just killed someone is the “sentimental” guy. Slim honestly deserved to be the new top dog though. He was loyal and actually had some class. Like when he chewed those guys out for shooting at Omar’s grandma or telling Stringer he was in over his head with Clay Davis
Slim never wanted to be top dog because he knew it would bring a lot of heat with it. Unlike Stringer, he was smart enough to stick to what he was good at.
Slim follows the rules of the game. Street reputation takes time to build and easily lost. He's mad at those yahoos for breaking the rules and costing the organization their reputation.
As much as it pains me & I don't like Cheese, he was right here. There isn't any nostalgia in the game. He was willing to put his money up to get the connect and work with the other crews. Mistake he made was alienating everyone around him by betraying his friends/family and playing sides. Most certainly pulling his gun out here did nothing but make up Slim's mind.
@@BigHorseFilm Slim killing him was still the right move. Cheese was a backstabber. He was gloating about how he betrays his partners when it suits him. Getting rid of him saved them all a lot of headaches down the line.
People think Cheese dies in this scene, but he recovered really fast and turned his life around. I saw him performing on stage with Redman at Rock The Bells hip-hop festival in 2008 just months after this, he's a pretty good rapper too.
Slim Charles never really stood out to me when I first watched the series, but the second time I watched it he became one of my favorites. Straight solider
@@user-qx5nk6qg2b You really do have trouble reading, don't you? Need new glasses? Maybe a new dictionary to better understand the correct meaning of words? Ignored would imply I paid no attention to him at all. I said he never really stood out to me, clearly indicating I noticed him to a degree. For one to suggest they're quite street smart you're not very observant. Regardless it's a weird thing to boast about since I don't live in some low life area where I need to worry about people to require such street smarts. Do you think you're a good troll by any chance? Because you aren't very clever
If you are from Baltimore you might recognize the short guy as the real life Shorty Boyd. He was a stick up man back in the day and Omar character was based partly on him along with Donnie Andrews.
yea I'm from baltimore but of course I'm not from the streets but I do recognize Donnie Andrews he plays that big man that helps Omar during the shootout in Monks apartment and also in prison Butchie's 2 guys that were hired to help....the one other guy is shot by Chris at Butchies bar that one day when Chris N Snoop came bear crawling
The Wire was really good at displaying actual death, especially when shot in the head. You don't usually just fall but seize up, posture, and twitch. Kind of gross, but accurate..
such a great scene... i heard a guy on the radio a few weeks ago who was a federal prosecutor turned Duke Law prof and had worked on the Ken Lay/Enron case. He said "The Wire is so accurate that it's almost non-fiction." greatest show ever!
I think slim was doing the math through the entire scene and chez's speech confirmed he was too mercurial and ureliable to be worked with. The game is savage but a man needs a code so his word counts.
"ain't no nostalgia to this shit. Just the game" He had no to little emotions and therefore didn't have the empathy to realize that others actually did. That's why he didn't see why emotions would cost him his life. Slims feelings about Prop Joe made him pull that gun and Slims realization that no one would mind made him know that he could off him on the spot
They all fell. Prop Joe was too rational for a monster like Marlowe, Stringer Bell was too political for the thuglife and too thuggish for Baltimore's political scene. Cheese is comic relief to an extent but what Barksdale said rings true. "All you gotta do is slip up once, or be late once. And how you never gonna slip up, or be late?" Cheese probably knew he was viewed as an untrustworthy slime, so he throws in more than his fair share and acts overly assertive in a bid to correct how he betrayed Joe. But it fails, tying in with the earlier thesis that "there are no second acts in American life."
"What tf you do that for? Now we short the 9..... This sentimental mf just cost us money!" One of my favorite lines. You can hear the pain in dudes voice (not for cheese at all) about having to come off a little more money that won't gonna hurt him and he's gonna get that money back and more in no time 😂😂😂😂 The wire was a trip, definitely one of those shows that can never be duplicated.
Scorpio Unleashed I think killing Cheese was already in Slim and Fat Face Rick’s plan. I think Rick purposefully brought attention to himself, so that Cheese’ back was to Slim! They knew that Cheese set his uncle up. They probably figured out that Cheese gave up Butchie to Marlo too. Besides, can you really see the Greek doing business with Cheese?? LOL... neither can I!
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The short old man was the best thing in this scene. He doesn't even care that someone just got clipped in front of him, he's only worried about the money.
That old man was actually one of the people the Wire was based on.
The size difference between him and Slim is on full display in this scene. Slim puts his hand on his shoulder like you would your nephew.
Bottom line speaks the loudest.
He's an old man who's been selling dope in Baltimore probably since before any of the dudes out there were even born. I'd venture to guess that that isn't the first time he's seen someone get dropped.
“now we short the 9”..😂😂 gave no fucks cheese got dropped.
"When it was my uncle I was with my uncle, when it was Marlo I was with him" literally just admits to having no loyalty lmao.
Method man was such a good villain.
"That was for Joe"
@@Stiggs-bu2fz Now we short the niiiiine
@@emeraldcelestial1058 😂😂😂😂😂😂
YEP!!!
Slim is one of those back ground supporting characters who ended up on my favorite characters list
also was one of those smart muthfukkin pawns Bodie spoke of... He made it to the end.
Humbleness is the ticket to longevity. Humble, laid back and well spoken. One of my favorite characters too.
He's like the Lord Varys of West Baltimore.... Humbleness, loyalty and knowing his place kept him alive all this time!!!
He came a long way since his days with Avon.
@Attila Vasquez meh... I'd equate Brienne to Brother Mouzone - resolute, skilled, proficient, and loyal to their own code. They'll even partner up with a stranger, in pursuit of sticking to their principles
Bronn tho, that'll be Clay Davis for me. Both are crooks to the very end who will align themselves with whoever is profitable at the moment. They both don't care much about the major conflict in their respective stories, only how to profit from it
One of the purest and most wholesome scenes in the show. Truly heartwarming
Unless you’re Cheese. Heart definitely cooling off with the rest of his body now.
@@LGMalz06 💀
"this sentimental mother fucker just cost us money"...🤣
It might not be as sentimental and heart warming as you think. I saw an interesting explanation on this other day that I hadn't thought of before. Slim wasn't as loyal or as much of a soldier as he let on. He was actually really clever, he wanted to wear the crown, and he was scheming the entire time. This is the final part of his subtle scheme. He knows cheese is the biggest threat to him running things, and he took this opportunity to take him out while making it look like he did it for Joe. He also sent a strong message to the other dealers by executing one of them in cold blood in front of them. He switched from Avon to Joe, he was muscle for hire (a mercenary) so why would he have had any loyalty to Joe? Remember when Joe leaves cheese in charge and says Slim is gonna watch cheese? Well where was slim when cheese gave Joe up to Marlo, how did slim not know about Cheese scheming with Marlo if he was watching Cheese? Unless he did know and chose to let it happen, knowing that Marlo wouldn't last long and then he could take the reigns while looking like he ascended out of loyalty and grit.
no mobile phones,just people living in the moment
i just love how nobody's surprised at all when Slim shoots him, they're all just like "eh, that's a bit of an inconvenience"
They're worried about business. And they've all probably got bodies in their background too. So it makes sense they're worried about their business first. Cheese? You think you're going lose sleep over a rival dealer who's proven himself to be treacherous? Though they're going to be careful what they say or do around Slim Charles after that, though.
Michael Brown as long as you loyal then you shouldn’t have a problem with slim. A treacherous fuck like cheese was gonna get his comeuppance one way or another
THEY END UP WITH THE SHORT $900 RIGHT? IF I WAS THEM I WOULD NOT WANT A WEASEL JUDAS FAMILY KILLING ASS LIKE HIM
NO THE ONLY THING THEY WERE MAD ABOUT IS HE SHOT CHEESE BEFORE THEY GOT THE 9 AFTER WOULD HAVE BEEN NO BEEF AT ALL
"motherfucker had it comin" - everyone there was just waiting for cheese to get got
Slim Charles makes an executive decision.
You can pinpoint the moment Slim gets cut out to be a CEO
Slim charles is on par with avon
Number1SoundSystem he most definitely took notes watching Avon and Stringer, probably took the best from both of em; also what not to do.
@@Duzz14 the game is out there, and its either play or be played
Number1SoundSystem thanks Omar
Glad to see Cheese, in his final moments, was surrounded by people who truly cared for him.
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😂😂😂😂😭😂
HAHAHAHAHAA
Well.. one of cares about the 900 g’s he was gonna put up.
Lols..
“What the fuck’d you do that for? Now we short the 9!” “This sentimental motherfucker just cost us money” had me dying laughing
Business is business
That was for Joe!
1:18 what about the guy in the background who said “tell him off fat man” haha
Lmfaoooo I've seen this scene a thousand times and never caught that
@@RetroVideoGamer23 always
Slim was one of the smartest characters on the show. He knew when to talk, and when not to. And when to act.
dvs zunkfukt Remember the chess conversation D'Angelo had with Wallace and Bodie in season 1? I like to think that Slim Charles was the pawn that made it to the other side and became a queen piece that they referenced. He survived the whole way through by playing it smart and not getting overly emotional or crazy, and by the end of the series he was at the head of the co-op negotiating the connect with the Greeks.
+BJMcB92 come to think of it, that's a pretty good summing up of slim
+BJMcB92 A-men
+dvs zunkfukt He knew his position and his lane at all times thats the only way you progress specially on tha rip or in tha street. He knew that business and emotional ties were 2 different things thats why bodie ultimately got killed instead of going with prop joe like slim did when tha barksdale empire went down he stayed independent and started his own little mob that wasn't equipped weapon or man power wise to deal with Marlo n them when they eventually took his corner. Slim knew that business is business and him and bodie were still cool because of that till bodie got killed Slim fucked with Barksdale tough but he made decisions off survival and business.
Dammit man your right. Dude was a ride or die.
Cheese had $900k because he stole all of Prop Joe's money after Marlo killed him. Slim Charles figured that out and that pissed him off even more.
Wrong
You're gonna need more than "wrong" to change my mind. Cheese was small time. He did not even have his own crew. Then all fo a sudden he has $900k? That was more than guys running other crews. Charles was on to him, when he pulled out his gun that was the last straw.
WRONG "G" (theres 2 words) does that convince you ? lol all jokes aside I think your right
but in my mind he shouldn't have said "that was for joe" instead when cheese is doing his little speech "when it was my uncle I was with my uncle...when it was Marlo I was with him...but now-...." Slim shoulda pulled the gun out and then said "man you talk to much nigga" POP against the side of the dome would of made me spit my drink out from laughter
cheese been running dope for his uncle a long time, he was making money on the side off Marlo, he had his own area taken over from hungry man on top so no doubt cheese had cheese plus whatever marlo paid him for setting up Joe - of course he probably got hold of joes cash but joe had a lot of that banked abroad where cheese would not be able to get hold of it
This is about as close as The Wire gets to having a feel-good moment.
*Edit:* A bunch of replies mention Bubbles going up the stairs at the end of Season 5. Yep, that's also a feel-good moment. As is Namond giving a speech for his high school debate club, while Colvin and his wife proudly watch. Would've been better to say that Slim Charles meting out some Old Testament justice to Cheese was The Wire's *best* feel-good moment, rather than its only one.
That was objectively speaking a cold blooded murder and yet we as the watchers feel warm seeing it though.
Life can be weird sometimes.
Kenard getting that beating was one too
@@TheBlackKakashi "ayo that lil ni**a gettin his ass beat"
@@MrBell-iq3sm it's called justice. Something severely lacking in the modern world
@@smellypatel5272 modern world? Justice never existed in no kind of world.
The fact that his hand is still twitching as they all calmly leave while mumbling their slight annoyance about the whole situation is one of the coldest things I have ever seen on TV.
Hahaha the dudes in the back saying Yeah he had it coming. Like none of it was a surprise. Such a pure scene
The hood in a nutshell
Cheese in a nutshell
He turned on one of thier guys so it was a matter of time before karma got him
There are so many of those type of moments in the wire. Best show ever
Slim was always the man that new how to play his position. Always read the room. Always told people what they didn't want to hear instead of what they wanted to hear. And Knew when to strike. MVP of The Wire!
@Dan And so he's the pawn who made it across the board
@@anatoldenevers237 damn that chess game was deep asf
I wonder how he would have dealt with Michael the new Omar in West B?
There’s that one mission he runs with Cutty and I always think that team up coulda dropped any opposition.
Slim reminds me a lot of Davis Seaworth from game of thrones. Both have a sense of honor and good survival instinct
"That was for Joe"
Has to be one of the more impactful lines that Slim had in the series.
Nar “I’m holdin the hat of a coloured lady “
Chesse lied. "Saying Omar put a end to Joe time" You ask me that was the last straw for Slim. Chesse was the one that gave Joe up to Marlo. Then have the nerve to lie about in front of everyone who knew the truth. Fat Rick especially cause Omar told him.
"I'm standing here holding a torn up church crown of a bonafide colored lady"
I like " who we hittin"?
@@mikeymc3094 Don't even have to be black for that to be impactful. And if any non-black Americans don't understand the significance of that line, they need to learn some real history.
LMAO I always loved how the old head dude yelled "WTF YOU DO THAT FOR??!"
“The motherfucker had it coming”. The Wire had the best background comments
Sheet
Or, "He shoulda never put away his gun" 😆
And boondocks
My fav is "Yo, look at the little n**ga gettin his ass beat" when mike was beating Kennard🤣
One of my favourites is when Mike is beating the shit put of Kenard and you hear someone I'm the background like "Yoo that kid is getting fucked up!"
I respect Method for taking on such a weasel role.
I think he put on one of the best "rapper turned actor" performances i've ever seen
@@garbour456 word
He wasn't asked to be on the show. He went in to audition for it because he had a lot of respect for what the show was doing.
Cheese is easily one of the best characters. Funniest character in the whole series
@@garbour456 The sequence when his voice broke talking about his dead dog, he's legit.
Honestly the most satisfying kill in the wire
Snoop shit wasn't satisfying at all lol she was real. Cheese and stringer i can live with
@J MORT Snoop was loyal, always did what she was told, and was literally a No bullshit soldier Who really didnt do shit wrong. Meanwhile Cheese had No morals and No loyalty, All he cared for was money to the point he would sell out his own family to get a bigger slice of the pie. He had it coming ever since Prop Joe got mudered.
yup
I liked when stringer finally got his, dude was out of control, damn ruined the Barksdale Organization and Avon’s name with his greed and conniving behavior
@@VNVNation2013 deffinetly see your point, not standing up to the King when it was time was what got her killed No Doubt. But does it make her death more satisfying than Cheese? Imo No. But I guess this is a matter of personal opinion, which i guess is just even more proof why The Wire is a genius show.
Always thought that Slim Charles was a cool character. A gangster and a killer, but smart, efficient and with a sense of honor/loyalty. This scene was cool and showed his true colors.
Omar definitely respected Slim
you ever see the deuce? he was cool on that show too...
Gangstas are killers
Cheese betrayed everyone. He was one of the few that deserved it
The best part about this scene is that Slim and Cheese are polar opposites; one is cowardly and disloyal who changes his colors to suit whatever environment he's in in order to survive, while the other is fearless and faces the world with his own sense of right and wrong and sticks with it to the grave. One dodges his obstacles, the other tackles them directly.
Cheese just doesn't have what it takes to be the boss but wants to desperately be it, while Slim faces all of his challenges head on like a true king but doesn't pretend to be one. He just is.
"It was a good speech. Didn't want to interrupt." - Slim Charles
These sopranos and game of thrones reference in the comment section are always my favorite lmao
It's incredible how GoT went from great scenes like that over to... what it became lol
What is dead may never *bang ......
Cheese's speech is good. Also gotta give it to method man for his acting ability.
But now nigga 🤯🔫
Prop Joe said it best about Cheese. Boy always was a disappointment
And cheese had his time, very briefly. And Slim Charles’ .9 put an end to that.
Robert Teague lmao
Robert Teague 😂😂😂
😂😂😂
the famed .9cm pistol
Sad as it was
Joe protected Cheese from Marlo when the shipment got stolen by Omar, but cheese gave his uncle up easy. Kind of sad.
Michael O joe was the reason the shipment got stolen
WhyBigJordan Not exactly. He had to give Omar something to save his life.
0rbital why? Because Omar threatened to tell Marlow about the card game that joe set him up on. Joe did it to himself.
@@WhyBigjordan Right. He couldn't give Cheese up because he was responsible for turning Omar onto the heist. He wasn't being all the way honorable, just not all the way snake-ish.
@@WhyBigjordan Joe should've called Omar's bluff, because Omar would've have to get close to Marlo in order to deliver that message, which would've been hard to do after he robbed Marlo. You think Marlo was going to let him live long enough to state his peace? Joe wasn't thinking. He was too scared. He was a real bitch for a kingpin. Marlo and Avon were the only two kings in B-more with heart.
I like how Slim doesn't say a speech to Cheese, beat him up, or have anyone else do it. He just puts one in his head and keep it moving.
Because Slim Charles was the best at knowing what to say and when. Even better than Avon.
He was treacherous. There was no way to work with Cheese as an equal partner. He was going to eventually become a Tyrant.
Slim literally was listening for confirmation on him being the reason Joe died .. slim always listened but never questioned nothing that’s how he became king in the end even tho he didn’t want to be
Looked like they were all headed to eat crab legs afterwards
Real nonchalant and shit
I wish Cheese had at least seen it coming.
...and Slim put an end to that.
+pwntologist lmao
ah shit lmao
Lol
ahah true shit
Slim just brought the whole "There is a thing called back in the day and its back today at least".
If a Wire character starts making a speech, it often means their time has come.
If a wire character is buying Newports, doing a speech or having a good time in a random scene they are done for.
Except Avon lol
@@emeraldcelestial1058 😂😂
word on that😂😂
Oof Madone … so true
Damn, Slim was a stone killer but you can't help but like the guy because he lived by a code.
one of the hardest and smartest characters on the show
smartest? his dumb ass opened up too soon and cost cutty his shot on fruit
he had his mistakes but he was smart, more loyal than anything though
+Mike valenzula No he didnt..
+chochopav i know i was jk
0:43 - Slim Charles thinking, "yeahh... im gonna have to do him here"
That funny mate! You see it in his face. Thanks for pointing it out.
You made my side hurt. 😂
Cheese: "They're ain't no more back in the day!"
Slim Charles enters the chat.
chicken2jail 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I’m weak asf
Half cheeses speech made sense but he had no loyalty he had to go
The thing about the old days is well, they the old days
Dead af
@@RubinRudeboyCarter
That's what it is.
No loyalty & you getting clipped!
Just occured to me that Slim Charles only carried out Joe's order. In S5E04 they both suspect Cheese being the one who whispered to Marlo about Butchie, but Prop Joe said he'd only act against kin on more than words. Joe also knew Cheese well enough to predict that he would show money if he was actually responsible and told Charles to watch him. So when he showed money, Slim dropped him.
Good catch u definitely right, after that I'm pretty sure slim figured out cheese gave up everybody 😂😂😂
Good catch!
Slim Charles = Soldier
And "drop him", he did.
Looking late asf but he knew about Cheese’s deed during the meeting after Prop’s death when Marlo said the infamous "price of the brick going up". Slim stayed humble during Marlo’s takeover of the co-op and Cheese was next in line after Prop Joe’s death, even before the east side niggas. He peeped game at that moment.. just nice reading comments from fellow real cultured niggas
I like how Cheese’s boy just stood there while everyone walked off, knowing he wasn’t worth even fighting for
Sheeit I just realized that he was the bodyguard, good eye
I have seen this scene hundreds of times and I didn't notice that until you brought it up. I never paid attention to him standing there.
he was there to protect Cheese, once cheese was dead, there was nothing to protect, and its unlikely cheese paid him enough to avenge him either.
Tired of hearing him run his mouth.
@@oldschooldogy316 I feel you, while I did notice the bodyguard, I never noticed that dude cheese had the gun on threw his cig on him lol.
"this sentimental mother-f just cost us money" the way that line was said is what makes it funny😂😂😂😂
Now we short the 9 😆 old ni99a all about business
@@mcbdllc2848 🤣🤣
Slim Charles iced that motherfucker like it was nothing.
Turns out there is some nostalgia to this shit afterall.
I love how someone in the backgrounds says "MF had it coming" 😂
Nobody liked or trusted Cheese, and they knew he was a snake and traitor
Slim is the pawn that made it to the other side and became a queen.
+bronsoninnit No pause bruh. Go watch the part when they talk about chess
+jsem94 you truly get his fucking show brah
+jsem94 Obviously the King on their side of the board is the Greek
+Alfred Ramirez I don't think that the Greek is even on the board...
bananarama9000 true he always kept a low profile
slim waits for cheese to put the gun down so the other dude doesn’t get shot by cheese from shock. Slim too real he doesn’t care about the 900,000. He knows he’s saved the whole crew from a treacherous snake.
Damn my simple jack self thought they was talking about 900. I best stay with my career in IT lol
@@darkwing451 These guys are running the city now. Baltimore ain't THAT poor lmao
if he invests more than he should invest, he might want to take over. in the end charles saved them money and trouble in the future.
Lol 900 dollars get thrown on hoes by your flunkies when at the table for boss meetings or the co op like that
@@keelanmurphy9941 LOL!!!!!! Mans talking like they just split a few ounces of kush 😂😂😂
Even beyond the grave, Joe had a way of getting back.
gutz1981 you god dam right that was for joe
gutz1981 obviously cheese and joes relationship was strained. Cheese always came off as a bastard nephew to joe as far as i saw. He seemed to be more of a nuisance to joe than an asset.
C Taylor I agree. Joe would give him chances to step up like how Slim did but he kept playing the pawn that didn't have the ambition to make it to the other side. So I can understand why Joe didn't want to give him too much responsibility.
Justin Barrett actually i thought it was more because he was incompetent. He gets driven off by brother malzoune (of course it is brother molzoune), he loses the coops's shipment, i could list many other things but i dont have the time.
Joe was an interesting character.
Slim was perfect in this scene. Patiently waiting for Cheese to stop pointing his gun at Rick and then instantly puts one in his head 😂
It was a good speech, I didn't want to interrupt.
Nah he has to show him don’t pull no gun on nobody and don’t use it
Slim's true muscle with heart. If Avon ain't got busted precisely when he did, Slim'd be capping Marlo's cowardly sociopathic ass!
I wouldn't have given Clay Davis much hope either with the whole
"Shit String! Murder ain't no thang, but this be some assassination shit..."
As Avon pointed out:
"You need a Day of the Jackal type muthafucka to pull of something like that basically, not a ruff n tumble nigga like Slim!" 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah I sussed that too, He coulda blown him away anytime during his diatribe, but waited just long enough for Cheese not to harm anyone and admit he's without loyalty. Boom. That was for Joe.
Why not both? @@breasiaardoin2788
Cheese just applied for Swiss citizenship.
You are a God among men
Even better when read in a Patrick Stewart voice. 😂
If This was CSI, That would be an AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA moment.
when you don't get the joke...
Shoaib Ashraf
Swiss style cheese is famous for having holes in it.
He’s lay on the ground like how a family guy character falls.
Lmao🤣🤣
Lol
You ruined this scene for me you bastard ahaha
It's actually more realistic than most murder scenes. But because it different from how it is in the movies you call bullshit. Fucking moron.
they took thAT from this
I remember watching this thinking, "oh no, please not Cheese running the show. Please don't let it end like this!" Slim Charles, you real one.
One thing that struck me the second time watching the wire is that the villains on the drug side of the game get their dues. While the villains on the legit side get promoted and rewarded.
Bodie was the ideal/complete street soldier and he was shot in the head.
Cutty, namond and poot “won” because they left the game without snitching or going to prison. It was straight retirement.
@@muaddib989 Well Cutty had done 14 years already
@@respectedgentleman4322
You’re right, Should have said again.
He lost his “nerve” after serving that time. Or more like he was rehabilitated.
In any event, he did “win” minus the getting shot in the leg. That’s where he and the audience learned, these young guys don’t care about past accolades or being an OG. If you’re a “civilian” you don’t matter.
elaborate a little more, which side was you more partial too?? Avon or Marlo??
That's real life for y'all legitimate villains never get punished those are the real gangsters
One of my favourite moments in tv history hands down. The “what you do that for”, slims face in response, caring about the money and not all about cheese it’s the perfect combination of comedy and drama
this sentimental mothafucka jus cost us money
“Now we short the 9!” 😂
Always thought slim would have responded with a joke about his height lol
🤣🤣🤣
@@MyHaroldE I should of shorted the 9 when they reached 26
🤦🏽♂️😂😂😂😂
Wasn't that such a damn good delivery 👍🤣 he said that perfectly!
I think this scene shows how machiavellian Slim is. Joe told him to keep an eye on Cheese after Butchie's death. He knew that, if Cheese got suddenly richer, it would be a reward from Marlo. Plus, you see that Slim managed to gather all the money needed to buy the supply afterwards. I think Slim was bluffing, he made everyone believe that there weren't enough money because he knew that Cheese would jump on the opportunity and unmask himself. Then, Slim just had to kill Cheese in front of everyone for the checkmate. Therefore, Slim sent two strong messages: "This is what a traitor gets" and "I am the top dog now." Slim's definitely a great player.
I have been thinking about this a little more, and I think Fat Face Rick is part of the set-up too. I mean, think about the frequency of his remarks which are intended for Cheese, and the way he is saying them, like there is no particular intent behind what he says, I mean, he knows it would be pointless to damage Cheese's reputation and legitimacy head-on. And, of course, who's sitting next to Slim in front of the Greeks? Rick. The Co-op became a bicephalous organization once again, with one west-sider and one east-sider on top, like it was at the beginning with String and Joe.
I've been thinking about this again (lol) and I think that every single player who's part of the deal between the Co-op and the Greeks should be grateful towards Slim Charles for what he did to Cheese. If the Greeks had to deal with Cheese, that business wouldn't have lasted long for sure. To me that's just another proof that Slim Charles acted as a kingpin here.
Great analysis. Slim was looking at Chesse side ways since the meeting and once he said he was down with Marlo after Prop Joe, that's when Slim popped his ass.
So Slim turn out to be the next Avon after all.....the cycle continue
SinisterHustle Yes, the cycle continues, and it's even more than that, "The game is the same, it just got more fierce". To me a guy like Slim can last longer in this game than a guy like Avon, he's got more flex in him and he's not hot-tempered like Avon. What i found remarkably interesting about Slim is not what he says, but what's behind what he says and what he does. By the way Avon is maybe the only one to have noticed it, when he said "stop double-talking me!" in season 3 when Slim had to tell that Avon's organization lacked muscle.
I like how the old man's first reaction was "WHAT DID YOU DO THAT FOR? NOW WE'RE SHORT THE 9!" 😆 heartless.
I imagine he probably already hated Cheese like everyone else and only saw him as a bag of money which is why he didn't care Cheese got capped, other than the fact that he just lost money.
Their reactions tell you everything about their opinions of cheese
That's that crime boss numbness.
Reminds me of Goodfellas after Tommy kills Billy Batts and tells Henry, "I didn't wanna get blood on your floor."
"That was for Joe..." Slim Charles was a straight Stand-Up Guy!!!
Sure was
Cheese came up behind Prop Joe and shot him in the head so he got what he deserved if slim witness shot cheese Marlow would have
@@robertgibbs7513 that was Marlo and Chris. Cheese set him up.
Yeah I went back and re-watched it at first they didn't show Chris's face I had to watch another video of it people got clipped left and right in that show just like The Sopranos that's why those shows were cool
Karma might be late, but she never forgets 🤯!!!
"THAT. WAS. FOR. JOE."
Slim Charles, circa 2008 (?)
Yes s5 was 08
slim was a real g. he never talked on the phones. and the cops never even knew of him.
I like how Slim is nodding his head with a sense of approval for himself, taking out Rotten Cheese. 👏🏾👏🏾
Shouldn’t have mentioned the $900K, Slim realized that was Prop Joe’s money that Cheese took after they killed him.
It wasn’t. It’s implied that Cheese’s 900K was money Mario paid him for betraying Joe. After Butchie is killed Slim and Joe talk about the likelihood of Cheese whispering to Marlo.
No it’s not marlo paid 50k for that info on butchie. The 900k was likely from joe who had it when he died granted marlo let him keep it. Because in that scene cheese asks joe if he wants him to take that bag and he says no.
yeh prop joe even said he knew his nephew and how he wouldn't be able to hide it if he got paid from marlo...he was right
I thought it was when he said Omar put an end to joe omar didn’t kill for no reason he wouldn’t of killed joe like he didn’t kill slim
Maybe that’s why Marlo asked for 1 million for the connect. He knew that cheese had come up on that bread! And telling slim that number Marlo knew Cheese would bring it up and they would catch on and kill cheese!!?!?
The finger twitching after being shot really puts the realism into the scene
Might not even be dead. Worse things were survived.
Unless it's hollowpoint.
@@gc99289what does a hollow point do
@@nikicarrie4071 It is supposed to peel back and expand and blossom out, increasing the diameter of the bullet so it makes a bigger hole and does more damage in the target. It also increases drag so that there's less chance of it exiting the target and causing collateral damage. I say "supposed" because they don't always work for various reasons, but in the case of shooting someone in the head like that it probably would. But honestly even FMJ in the head like that can usually kill pretty easily.
@@gc99289Even if Cheese had survived that fool would’ve not been the same or at least not threatening enough to do anything about being shot. He got shot point blank range he would’ve had to go thru multiple surgeries and physical therapy just to bounce back.
@@derrickbailey1714 FBG Wooskie
You can't trust some one who set their own family up he had to go
I'm sorry, were you trying to say "he had to get got" ?
Exactly. If Cheese wasn't killed here and now, he would have been trouble later on for everyone. His ambition knew no bounds.
True!!
Facts Slim was honorable
@@solamon77 - Ambition and stupidity.
Method Man killed this role. Superb
It really wasn't anything that crazy. He was just annoying.
I love that his hand was still twitching for a second there. Nice touch.
details matter. this is modern Shakespeare.
Guess you can he was...
....Method acting😎
@@youknowwhoyouare2269 Testify!
He did land on the ground like they do in Family Guy.
Kinda sad
This is why The Wire was so consistently brilliant, it portrayed the real reality of the street game. Cheese was all prepared for the big monologue, the big "It's our time now, it's MY time now", he was ready and willing and thinking he was about to step up and be the next big boss, the next head honcho shot caller... and five seconds later he's dead.
That's real. That's realer than real. That's the drug game. And that's why The Wire is one of the best shows of all time.
Lot of player think they're invincible but very few make it out alive and prosperous. Its brutal but its not like society is doing anything to make life better.
Lol shut up nerd
@@geordiejones5618 The US is one of the richest countries in the world and if you get a job at McDonalds you earn more money than people that work making software in other countries, what the hell are you talking about implying life is hard? Lmao just get a job and learn how to manage your money.
BEST of all time
Well said!!
I don't think I've ever been so happy to see a fictional character get killed. The only thing that could have made this scene better is if the bullet went through Cheese's head and somehow killed Valchek as well.
I felt the same way when they killed off Shane from the walking dead 🤣
@@marlborosweedoldenglish32 Fuck you! Shane was the best thing in TWD
@@sonny5196 rights? Shane was ahead of his time. Everyone eventually became a little Shane
Can we throw Yolonda in there too
Hah! Or just shatter Valchek’s stupid fucking stained glass.
What a shitbird…
Something I just realized is that Cheese said that “Joe had his time and ‘Omar’ put an end to that.” Knowing he knew goddamn well who did
goddamn I'm stupid I was looking for a comment about this thinking it was an error but didn't even stop to think it was on purpose
Cheese never had the makings of a varsity drug kingpin.
Small pants, that's what Daddy used to say.
@Brandon Lucia But I don't have a coat.
Wrong show guys...
Meh, whatever. Quasimodo predicted all this.
:D
Slim was an interior decorator.
one of a rare few "fuck yeah!!! justice!!!" moments on The Wire
indeed,this and when stringer was killed
bananaempijama : U ain't never lied ! That Stringer character was a gigantic piece of shit !
Nobody even gave a shit about Cheese getting killed in front of them, no excitement, no anger, just no fucking reaction lol
Cause he was an utter fuck up.. Even his Uncle Fat Joe,knew he was basically worthless.
LOL LOL LOL !!!! i know right fuck em They all walked away like it wasn't shit.
mad hatter Not to be critical, but his name is Prop Joe. Fat Joe is a rapper.
Homie turned on his own uncle (his blood). Fuck em
Wtf you talking about? That one guy was mad, but only because of money. Also, everybody had a reaction, they just weren't sad. Learn what reaction means.
Funny thing is too, if Marlo hadn't been taken out of the Game he would would have absolutely killed Cheese, and I have no doubt that was in his plans the whole time.
Marlo wants people like Chris and Snoop who can be relied on to follow orders, he had some respect for Joe and knew what an incompetent, impulsive, treacherous snake his nephew was, and while he used those traits to his advantage there's no way he would have wanted someone like that in his organization. Cheese siding with a Machiavellian sociopath versus his loyal to a fault uncle shows more than anything what an utter moron he was.
Don't lose sight of the fact that this was in the finale. There's an added, satisfying subtext here where now Cheese is making a play to be the one who replaces Marlo..who replaced Prop Joe and Avon... So in this moment, in Cheeses head this was the beginning of his rise to power, but before he can even say "but now, you stand with me" he just gets shot in the head... subconsciously, you watch this and know that Slim Charles completely shutdown this next takeover in one second, where as we had just watched five years of there being one "Cheese" after another fighting to be top dog.
It's super satisfying to, for once, see that process beginning and then get completely shut down in the same scene. Especially when it's a hated character, and especially when it's treated as a comedic moment like this.
Brill. I. Ant. Writing
Nailed it
I agree
You couldn't be more wrong. The fact is that even with the choppy dialogue (I'll give you that much), Meth made the scene work. Aside from that it was a crescendo that satisfied the viewer. Prop Joe was too likeable to be betrayed by his own flesh and blood. Sentiment does count when you are building an allegory.
Hal Jordan Shut the fuck up, dumbass. Lol
Rob Rose I think what makes this moment so brilliant is that the whole co-op is just concerned with money. No one is upset that Slim just shot a guy in front of all of them, but that he might have cost them money. And in the end, they all disperse, as though nothing has happened. No one cares about the twitching dead body in front of them, it's all about how they can recuperate after Cheese's death. Brilliant scene. It's the absolute indifference toward life that people show, but the real concern they have toward money and power.
At least cheese will finally be with his dog💀
Lmao😂😂😂
@John Connor don't believe that
Ha ha....but damn that's heavy
lmao
Lmao that’s cold
This is the reason Omar lived as long as he did, and why cheese had to go, during this scene he was talking about how he changes sides on a whim, how he only cares about his end. A man must have a code. Cheese didn't have a code, so he was unpredictable, meaning he had to go.
Also that scene with the co - op, you saw when Slim said he wasn't cutout to be a CEO, then Cheese accepted like nothing after Marlo pretty much confessed to being the one that took out Joe. That really rubbed Slim the wrong way.
@@GABRIELA-ACEVEDO. Marlo didnt say he took Joe out... he said he was responsible because Omar was going after the ones closest to him. Watch it again
@@Dre_Key he insinuated it at first to see their reactions so he basically did admit to killing joe this show is very deeply layered
@@gearup2967 certainly is
@@Dre_Key he did both. he knew what to look for. he confessed without confessing. but even Marlo can't just throw that out there. even thought the lucky bastard was still standing at the end.
I love how all the old heads knew it would cost the money, but knew it also had to happen. They knew he had to go! Every single one of them. The old heads are rational thinkers. They have lived a long time, just to get to the spot they are in. And no one even needs to talk to anyone in particular, they all know it's time to head out and they'll have another meeting to discuss everything in a few days. I just love that.
The one time cheese says something intelligent, albeit immoral and full of lies, he gets his head blown off. No nostalgia indeed.
Great comment
As Slim said to Bodie, the thing about the old days, them old days. You can't keep looking for the good old day and have to be realistic about changed in the world.
Exactly. Cheese was arguing against the very concept that allowed Joe to survive so long, and because of it he robbed himself of the one thing that would've allowed him to survive. If he'd stood over his own corpse, he'd have had nothing to say against it, because Slim Charles was simply acting based on the philosophy that Cheese was espousing.
@@LabTech41 damn that was deep, and very true.
lol naw man. You got it totally twisted. Its the complete opposite. Slim Charles dented Cheese's head literally cuz of nostalgia. He said it himself. The two mans lived by different codes. And thats why Cheese got blindsided because he couldn't see the game any other way than how he saw it.
Slim is one of the more underrated characters from The Wire.
@Jay Literally watched that episode today when he said that to Marlo in the co-op meeting
on god
@Jay yeah, when he says ceo, it's in reference to serving under Marlo, which is why he said no disrespect, he knew to dip out but do business on his own ends as part of the co op instead of jumping when marlo says jump
The Eeyore of the Wire.
Always liked him from the jump. Was just a real mf with sense and street smarts
Cheese talked too much, basically said he only loyal to who feeding him at the time and will turn his back on anyone at any moment. then had the nerve to speak on his dead uncle with his dead uncle's right hand man standing next to him. he did it to himself.
It's a fact that cheese is not very bright
Hes always been a letdown
So true❤
Too greedy and too big of a mouth. Only thing that kept him alive up til then was Prop Joe. Then he betrayed him.
i feel like it’s also a good parallel to Bodie since he was hesitant and always stood his ground, he was loyal to the GAME not whoever is at the top, and he went out like a soulja
I have watched every major crime show there is but nothing comes close to The Wire, its on another level. Every scene means something, every episode counts. Brilliant writing, directing and acting.
I heard the sopranos is a top shelf crime show. Breaking bad was a masterpiece to me next to the wire.
No doubt.....fir the most part. There was the occasional glitch in writing, but overall, NOTHING touches The Wire.
Cheese: "When it was my uncle, I was with my uncle. When it was Marlo, I was with him! But now..."
Slim: *Removes Cheese from Chat*
Lol
Bruh
😄😄
Kicked for spam
loloooolo
the hand twitching is a nice touch
The Wire always had realism and small details down tact.
+TaRAAASHBAGS it showed what really went on my crew at one time were G' s like the before we became to carelsswith money and drugs i guess bitches came first to us ha ha ha
+Atl Walton haha this is what makes youtube amazing
really really your a common cold we all get rid of never to see again
I enjoyed it so much
Slim was always a pawn, but was the smart one who made it to the other side of the board. He stayed quiet until a wannabe king (cheese) tried to get to take over and...then he took him out wisely, as a pawn would, not directly face to face but rather at a diagonal position while the king was focusing on what he perceived to be a threat....
Then bang, checkmate.
Slim's a rook. He's always been muscle, so he moves with the stash house. Even in this scene, he attacks horizontally.
"meaning no disrespect, I aint made to be no CEO" Keeping the seat warm till Avon comes out.
Fucking genius!
Great analogy. And goes to show how pivotal and profound that excellent chess scene was all the way back in season 1.
D'Angelo would be proud
1:04always kills me ☠️☠️ “CHEESE😬”There Ain’t No Back Inna Day 🥷
"Ain't no Nostalgia to this shit here"
- Cheese
Good acting by Meth
Akeem James lol and then once he puts the gun down he starts to reminisce
Great fu*king line
The weirdest thing about all this is that the New Day Co-op was probably one of the only lasting changes made to the institutions of Baltimore. Even when Stringer died the co-op stayed and even when Marlo tried to shut it down it came right back.
And the co-op keeps getting stronger as shown in the next scene where Slim talks to the Greeks, with two of the other guys from the co-op with him. Now the connect isn't monopolized by one person and the West Baltimore drug trade is even more democratic.
The co-op allows the Baltimore kingpins to buy low and sell high, watch each other's backs, and avoid turf wars that bring police attention... It's a beneficial set-up for all involved (except when it's infiltrated by snakes like Marlo or Cheese)
@@kevina5337 Exactly. When else on The Wire have you seen changes that actually benefit everyone actually last?
Did shit better than Carcetti lmaoo
So, in a way, it was the drugs that came out on top by the time the show ended. Drugs won the War on Drugs.
Underrated comment right here
I like how the guy who just killed someone is the “sentimental” guy. Slim honestly deserved to be the new top dog though. He was loyal and actually had some class. Like when he chewed those guys out for shooting at Omar’s grandma or telling Stringer he was in over his head with Clay Davis
Slim never wanted to be top dog because he knew it would bring a lot of heat with it. Unlike Stringer, he was smart enough to stick to what he was good at.
Shit I would’ve hit clay Davis fym he robbed tf out stringer
Slim follows the rules of the game. Street reputation takes time to build and easily lost. He's mad at those yahoos for breaking the rules and costing the organization their reputation.
And trying to take the blame when Cutty couldn’t pull his end of a hit.
he literally becomes top dog, you see him in the ending montage talking to the greek connection
I love the "fucker had it comin" in the background after Slim said "That was for Joe".
lol I never heard that, that's exactly the remark I have about Cheese as well
Old head was like “come on man, wait til we get the money first!” 😂😂
now we're short the 9. savage
Lmaooo what is his name cause he sound like a true black chicagoan
Then continues “This sentimental motherf*cker Just costs us money” 😭
@@gamertron0993 Clinton "Shorty" Buise
@@Spike7171 awe shit it say he died in baltimore in 2013 (rest in peace) so im guessing he was from baltimore
That actor was actually a real G.
“Now we short the nine” 😂😂😂
As much as it pains me & I don't like Cheese, he was right here. There isn't any nostalgia in the game. He was willing to put his money up to get the connect and work with the other crews. Mistake he made was alienating everyone around him by betraying his friends/family and playing sides. Most certainly pulling his gun out here did nothing but make up Slim's mind.
@@BigHorseFilm Slim killing him was still the right move. Cheese was a backstabber. He was gloating about how he betrays his partners when it suits him. Getting rid of him saved them all a lot of headaches down the line.
@@BigHorseFilm They still managed to gather the money to buy the connect so all's well that ends well(from a drug dealer's perspective anyway) 😂
That was for Joe
People think Cheese dies in this scene, but he recovered really fast and turned his life around. I saw him performing on stage with Redman at Rock The Bells hip-hop festival in 2008 just months after this, he's a pretty good rapper too.
Cleaned his whole ack up!
lol 😂
I like how none of them were overly shocked by Cheese getting dropped 🤣
The short old man was, I mean, he was gonna put up the 900
i don't recall anyone actually liking cheese. he was that coworker that you tolerated.
@@donclarence3644 yeah but he was more upset about the money lol
the background dialogue kills me lmfao "motherfucker had it coming" "shoulda never put away his gun..."
@@missbelled6700 didn't notice thanks
Slim is best character in The Wire
And why do you say that, slim charles?
Slim Charles Marlo is the best
Slim Charles One of the best. Omar, Michael, Bunk, Lester, Bodie, Stringer, Jimmy, ect ect ect. That's why the Wire is the best show of all time.
***** I love Slim but he didn't get enough screen time to be a contender
Slim Charles hmm i love slim too, but i have a feeling your opinion may be slightly bias...
Somebody in the back said “he should’ve never put away his gun” 💀💀💀
they did 🤣🤣
I peep that too🤣
"Muthafucka had it comin🤷🏾♂"
@1:51
HE SAID IT AS I READ THIS COMMENT
“What tf you do that for now we shhooo the niiiiiine” One of the most iconic lines in “Wire” 😂😂😂🏆
this sentimental mf just cost us money
Slim Charles never really stood out to me when I first watched the series, but the second time I watched it he became one of my favorites. Straight solider
same
Dafuq were you paying attention to the first time? 🤔
@@user-qx5nk6qg2b Not Slim Charles. Trouble reading?
@@chriswelcome8102 So you ignored him when he was on screen. Or are you just not privy to the streets? You reek of insecurity. lmfao
@@user-qx5nk6qg2b You really do have trouble reading, don't you? Need new glasses? Maybe a new dictionary to better understand the correct meaning of words? Ignored would imply I paid no attention to him at all. I said he never really stood out to me, clearly indicating I noticed him to a degree. For one to suggest they're quite street smart you're not very observant. Regardless it's a weird thing to boast about since I don't live in some low life area where I need to worry about people to require such street smarts. Do you think you're a good troll by any chance? Because you aren't very clever
If you are from Baltimore you might recognize the short guy as the real life Shorty Boyd. He was a stick up man back in the day and Omar character was based partly on him along with Donnie Andrews.
yea I'm from baltimore but of course I'm not from the streets but I do recognize Donnie Andrews he plays that big man that helps Omar during the shootout in Monks apartment and also in prison Butchie's 2 guys that were hired to help....the one other guy is shot by Chris at Butchies bar that one day when Chris N Snoop came bear crawling
THERE AIN"T NO NOSTALGIA FOR DIS SHIT!!!!
Shorty Boyd went and cleaned his whole act up!
Slim sizing up cheese and waiting for him to expose himself is pure gold
The greatest moment in the show. Period! Love Slim Charles. He was the best.
The Wire was really good at displaying actual death, especially when shot in the head. You don't usually just fall but seize up, posture, and twitch. Kind of gross, but accurate..
Michael O Shows the acting potential of meth 👌🏾
meaturama reddit.com/r/watchpeopledie (NSFL)
But now we short the nine? Do you have nine hundred thousand dollars for the connect Michael O?
meaturama For Joe.
Excellent comment thread
In the background you can hear some one say Mf had it coming lol
you can see method's hand still move around too
I just noticed for the first time at 1:50 dude threw his cigarette at Cheese
You can also hear “He could never put away his gun” 🤣
-"Mmm-hmm!"
And they still are short the 9
such a great scene... i heard a guy on the radio a few weeks ago who was a federal prosecutor turned Duke Law prof and had worked on the Ken Lay/Enron case. He said "The Wire is so accurate that it's almost non-fiction."
greatest show ever!
I can't agree anymore
Without a doubt the most satisfying moment of The Wire. A series that had very little satisfying moments yet was still excellent.
I think slim was doing the math through the entire scene and chez's speech confirmed he was too mercurial and ureliable to be worked with. The game is savage but a man needs a code so his word counts.
"ain't no nostalgia to this shit. Just the game"
He had no to little emotions and therefore didn't have the empathy to realize that others actually did. That's why he didn't see why emotions would cost him his life. Slims feelings about Prop Joe made him pull that gun and Slims realization that no one would mind made him know that he could off him on the spot
They all fell. Prop Joe was too rational for a monster like Marlowe, Stringer Bell was too political for the thuglife and too thuggish for Baltimore's political scene. Cheese is comic relief to an extent but what Barksdale said rings true. "All you gotta do is slip up once, or be late once. And how you never gonna slip up, or be late?"
Cheese probably knew he was viewed as an untrustworthy slime, so he throws in more than his fair share and acts overly assertive in a bid to correct how he betrayed Joe. But it fails, tying in with the earlier thesis that "there are no second acts in American life."
Easily the most satisfying death of the entire series.
Fruit was my favorite.
For some reason i loved savinos death coz it was so random and he was a cocky unloyal shit
"What tf you do that for? Now we short the 9..... This sentimental mf just cost us money!" One of my favorite lines. You can hear the pain in dudes voice (not for cheese at all) about having to come off a little more money that won't gonna hurt him and he's gonna get that money back and more in no time 😂😂😂😂
The wire was a trip, definitely one of those shows that can never be duplicated.
Which is so funny since I'm sure Slim would cover the rest with no complaints.
anyone else notice cheese's hands twitching when everyones walking away
straight up brutal.
Shot to the left side of the brain had his left arm twitching
Since the righr brain controls the left.
Dang attention to detail.
You could hear his feet kicking too lol
I wish they used more of Slim Charles. Loved his character
Me too, but the fact that they had him kind of in the background makes his character more impactful in a way.
He was the only character that was basically cool with being killed
lol the looks of shock on everyones faces are priceless, they all knew he had it coming, but only Slim had the balls to do something about it
celticsnation
It wasn't about being bold. It was about Slim becoming irate about what he said about Joe.
Scorpio Unleashed I think killing Cheese was already in Slim and Fat Face Rick’s plan. I think Rick purposefully brought attention to himself, so that Cheese’ back was to Slim! They knew that Cheese set his uncle up. They probably figured out that Cheese gave up Butchie to Marlo too.
Besides, can you really see the Greek doing business with Cheese?? LOL... neither can I!
Beautiful dramtic irony from the Wire as usual. Cheese gives a speech about how the past doesn't matter, and then his past catches up.