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  • Опубликовано: 19 ноя 2024

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  • @AvgJoeWatchReviews
    @AvgJoeWatchReviews  Год назад

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  • @uhmerrykan
    @uhmerrykan Год назад +1

    I'm blown away by your transparency and integrity. Too few watch reviewers are this way.

    • @AvgJoeWatchReviews
      @AvgJoeWatchReviews  Год назад +1

      I appreciate that. Thank you! I hope you can stick around and subscribe. 👍

  • @MrBacchus18
    @MrBacchus18 Год назад +12

    Having to get upload approval should be a red flag, glad to see you have a problem with that.

  • @markwagner6566
    @markwagner6566 Год назад +11

    One thing I hate about RUclips these days is that every single person who owns a watch is doing reviews. There is no end to what people will do for a freebee.

    • @Fahrenheit1407
      @Fahrenheit1407 Год назад +10

      Why would you hate more options of channels to watch. Don't be so cynical, people with 50 subs aren't doing it for freebies, it's probably just for fun

    • @markwagner6566
      @markwagner6566 Год назад +1

      @@Fahrenheit1407, simply because they review the same old AliExpress junk. Mark my words, in the long run it will hurt the serious reviewers.

    • @AvgJoeWatchReviews
      @AvgJoeWatchReviews  Год назад +3

      Thank you all for watching and venting your opinions.

  • @somewhereintimewatchreviews
    @somewhereintimewatchreviews Год назад +5

    There is nothing wrong accepting a "free" watch in return for a review as long as the company in question is open & transparent enough themselves to have their products honestly reviewed. If they want to preview a video for approval, then surely that would suggest that they have little faith in their products.
    On the point of anything being free, surely a reviewers time is worth something. If anything, the " paid promotion" banner that we are obliged to display at the front of any video where a product has been gifted is as relevant to whoever provided it as it is to the recipient.i.e. they are paying for a service. Let's face it if a company has to use the traditional methods of bringing a product to the attention of any prospective customers. Their bottom line would be a lot higher.
    Sure, we all do this as a hobby & most of the time as with any hobby. It has a financial cost to us as well as our time.But if any company requests to make use of our time and resources, why should anyone expect us to do it for free? Would any of these people go & do their 9--5 for free for 4 or 5 hours? I doubt it.
    But above all, honesty & integrity are far more important than any freebie as someone so eloquently put it.
    So you stick to your guns mate you've always been honest with your reviews & I know that will always be the case.
    As for the watches, I quite liked the diver, the Omega homage I thought was too much $ the star of that trio for me was the white dial.

    • @AvgJoeWatchReviews
      @AvgJoeWatchReviews  Год назад +3

      You nailed it mate! Well said. Appreciate your input as it’s spot on.

  • @Matthew-to5lm
    @Matthew-to5lm Год назад +3

    Awesome video!! Thanks for sharing the truth. You and Elizabeth are the few content creators that have the balls to expose these clowns like Borealis and other watch Y2bers

  • @pbxl
    @pbxl Год назад +1

    Wowww sure other mark do the same bought a Signum Cuda based on review of one more watch…. Time is unreadable during the night… but the reviewer get a free watch…nice. Thx for the honesty

  • @DesignAtelier
    @DesignAtelier Год назад +4

    Why did I miss this? Well done. I’ve worked with many brands and companies. I’m also fine with sending my footage to them but not at the sacrifice of my freedom of speech.

    • @AvgJoeWatchReviews
      @AvgJoeWatchReviews  Год назад +2

      For some reason the algorithm isn’t the biggest fan of my channel at times. 😂 I appreciate you chiming in! Hope you’re well!!!

  • @tommydude969
    @tommydude969 Год назад +3

    The adraga is like 550 similar to the sintra, it was 275 down payment 275 fore shipping. the 650+ price is steep but I paid 450 for my sintra brand new upon launch

  • @peterc3700
    @peterc3700 Год назад +9

    Good video Joe. It’s disappointing to hear that this is still happening. How can it be a review if the seller has to approve it. As you said it becomes a commercial. Thanks!

  • @DougFNJ
    @DougFNJ Год назад +2

    I LOVE this video! I love what you did with your approach, I love that you didn't just purchase the watches to bash the brand and the watches, but gave a thorough honest true review. Keep up the fantastic work, subscribed!

    • @AvgJoeWatchReviews
      @AvgJoeWatchReviews  Год назад +2

      Thank you so much! These watches were lent to the channel from a good friend. Appreciate hearing that from you. I will check out your channel as well and subscribe. Have a great day!

  • @gunnarguggs2725
    @gunnarguggs2725 Год назад +4

    I appreciate your stance on the Borealis' offer, but I felt that you were a bit brutal on your reviews, especially when 2 out of 3 were well priced. The only aspect of the review that was beyond questioning was the Sintra price point.

    • @AvgJoeWatchReviews
      @AvgJoeWatchReviews  Год назад +1

      Thank you for watching and I respect your ability to share your opinion openly with me. Have a great day! 👍

  • @nesarsultani1446
    @nesarsultani1446 Год назад +1

    Great review!
    I am really disappointed from my purchase of Borealis NH34 powered watch.
    I bought it without any previous experience, I trusted RUclips reviews. I am waiting over 4 months for my watch and still counting. They started another kickstart of different watch before delivering the GMT powered watches. I bought NH34 powered watch from Zelos 3 weeks ago and received it.
    I will never buy another Borealis or encourage others to waste their money on world of disappointments.

    • @AvgJoeWatchReviews
      @AvgJoeWatchReviews  Год назад +1

      Thanks for sharing. You’re not alone on your thoughts. They are having a hard time staying out of trouble lately. 😉👍

  • @MirrlyonTime
    @MirrlyonTime Год назад +4

    Great review AJ and I do appreciate your honesty and integrity did you purchase these or have them loaned? I love that white dial version looks like a linen dial, and the blue one is beautiful as well but you are correct it’s way over priced, but that linen dial looking one whew I dig that! Definitely homage watches but that’s ok by me. Very interesting take on the vertical brushing making the case look thicker I had never thought about that before but you are spot on, on camera it definitely looked to me to be 12 plus thick under 12 very surprising. Great job on the video as always

    • @AvgJoeWatchReviews
      @AvgJoeWatchReviews  Год назад +3

      Thanks for your honest feedback mate. Appreciate your support. These were not loaned or gifted from Borealis. A very generous friend loaned these to the channel.

    • @MirrlyonTime
      @MirrlyonTime Год назад +2

      @@AvgJoeWatchReviews meant to say loaned by someone else so you could review em…

    • @AvgJoeWatchReviews
      @AvgJoeWatchReviews  Год назад +4

      @@MirrlyonTime yes sir. That is correct.

  • @Trapvision3D
    @Trapvision3D Год назад +4

    This is a very interesting vid. Great breakdown of the watches, but that's weird how they approached you concerning your content. You'd think they'd offer you $25k versus a watch for your review (commercial)

    • @AvgJoeWatchReviews
      @AvgJoeWatchReviews  Год назад +4

      Right!!?? If I was out for a free watch, I would’ve taken the watch and not made this video. My integrity is more valuable than anything else. Happy New Year buddy.

  • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
    @HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад +2

    I know I'm a bit late getting onto all of this controversy, but funnily enough that was because I was working on my review of the Borealis Bull Shark. I did not have the same terms about having to submit the raw footage. Also I tested Borealis claim about only needing to see the review prior to publishing, to check the quality and not to sensor or ask me to amend certain points. The review is up on my channel now for those who are interested in seeing a 100% honest review of the watch. Going over both the pros and the CONS.

    • @somewhereintimewatchreviews
      @somewhereintimewatchreviews Год назад +2

      Haha. Late to the party!!!? This was nearly 2 months ago! I think you've got the wrong video mate. The "controversy" was on another channel altogether....🤣

    • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
      @HonestWatchReviewsHWR Год назад

      @@somewhereintimewatchreviews They mentioned this video in the one you're on about though.

  • @StefaanVdV1961
    @StefaanVdV1961 Год назад +6

    I admire your courage in doing this kind of critical review Joe, despite personally benefiting from it. This is why your channel is one of my favorites, good job👍

    • @AvgJoeWatchReviews
      @AvgJoeWatchReviews  Год назад +3

      Thank you very much. Sadly, it does take courage to tell the truth which is why very few do.

  • @andrewk7422
    @andrewk7422 Год назад +4

    I’m not a fan of them wanting to approve the video to make sure it is positive, but I do see an argument for them wanting to make sure it is factually accurate. You got the movement wrong on the Sintra and the Adraga - it’s a Miyota 90S5 (not 9055. 90S5 is the open heart/no date version of the 9015). More importantly, you got the price wrong on the Adraga $275 was a 50% deposit with another $275 due at shipment. So it’s $100 less than the Sintra. To each their own, but I could see a $100 difference between the two. Still not cool if they want to bias the content, but I understand factual accuracy.

  • @felo6035
    @felo6035 Год назад +7

    Glad to see you expose this side of Borealis. Any brand who is not willing to (1) Lend or (2) Donate any of their watches and in return ONLY ask for a fair and honest review is not acting in the most professional and ethical manner - in my humble opinion. Receiving open, honest and uncontrolled feedback only helps companies get better. Thank you for not only exposing how Borealis operates (probably not the only ones), but also for your fair & honest review of the featured Borealis watches. Keep up the good work Joe. Well done brother 👍

    • @AvgJoeWatchReviews
      @AvgJoeWatchReviews  Год назад +3

      I appreciate the feedback. I do my very best to be as honest as possible and exposing this information shows transparency that this is going on and the viewers need to know about it and hold those responsible accountable. Merry Christmas my friend! God bless.

    • @felo6035
      @felo6035 Год назад +2

      @Avg. Joe Watch Reviews Thank you again my friend, and a Merry Christmas to you and your family as well 👍

    • @AvgJoeWatchReviews
      @AvgJoeWatchReviews  Год назад +3

      @@felo6035 Merry Christmas brother Christmas 🎄

  • @allthingsgood156
    @allthingsgood156 7 месяцев назад

    The blue one is a stunner! Overpriced though. Thanks for review.

  • @TheWatchConcierge
    @TheWatchConcierge Год назад +3

    Is this after the whole Instagram screenshot or before? Did you reach out to them first or did they reach out to you first? I like their watches, but I think they are overpriced. I do agree that brands, especially micro-brands, should not have all those requests and ask for permission to view or approve before posting a review, because then it just doesn't seem honest and seems like they just want you to say good things and if you make any criticism they don't like then they won't "approve".

    • @AvgJoeWatchReviews
      @AvgJoeWatchReviews  Год назад

      They reached out to me beginning of December asking me to review their watch for a “free watch”. They asked me. If I was in it for a “free” watch, I would’ve accepted and never shared all this. I cannot name a single reviewer that has shared this with anyone. I could be mistaken but I attempt to be transparent and honest with my viewers to gain trust but also expose those who are being shady. I’m glad you agree that there should be no restrictions or conditions for an honest review. It was an easy “no” for me and hopefully set a precedent for other reviewers.

    • @TheWatchConcierge
      @TheWatchConcierge Год назад +1

      @@AvgJoeWatchReviews right this time they reached out to you but there were some screenshots going around before December of you approaching them on Instagram, was that real?

  • @gotsouced4943
    @gotsouced4943 Год назад +1

    It's kinda a bummer I like borealis. I bought bullshark and like it alot. Only problem I had was the female endlinks don't articulate more like male endlinks

  • @godzillasuzuki2374
    @godzillasuzuki2374 Год назад +2

    You killed them.

  • @bitterboar
    @bitterboar Год назад +6

    I wish more channels called out watch companies for this behavior. It definitely changes my opinion on the brand. Great video and reviews.

    • @AvgJoeWatchReviews
      @AvgJoeWatchReviews  Год назад +3

      So do I and thank you. Transparency is key in building that trust amongst our viewers. I appreciate that feedback.

  • @josephballdinger4078
    @josephballdinger4078 Год назад +6

    This actually pisses me off. I’ll make sure to spread the word. Took guts to make this video and expose these clowns. Good on you mate.

  • @kevins8971
    @kevins8971 Год назад +5

    My least favorite of the three? Tough choice for sure!

  • @matthewhowell1455
    @matthewhowell1455 Год назад +3

    Thanks for exposing them! I will avoid Borealis in the future, as their reviews, unlike your own, cannot be trusted. Regarding the ghost position, Marc at Long Island Watch has said in the past that it can be difficult to get the NH38 movements, and he has used NH35 or NH36 movements in no date watches himself.

  • @madrockwatchesadventure4501
    @madrockwatchesadventure4501 Год назад

    Prior to making this video, did you tell them you were going to make this video and discuss their terms openly?

  • @manwithclass09
    @manwithclass09 Год назад +2

    Good on you Sir..... A number of other very famous watch "reviewers" are reviewing a number of Borealis watches..... Interesting - I wonder if they were also offered the same "free watch program"....... Disappointing if they have and went out to the public with reviews without making it VERY clear to the viewing audience that they were presenting an advertisement and not actually doing an unbiased review. Interesting - but quite disappointing.

    • @AvgJoeWatchReviews
      @AvgJoeWatchReviews  Год назад +2

      Thank you so much! There’s no question that there are some reviewers, if not all that have agreed to these terms. Like Elizabeth said in her video and I, in mine, we cannot confirm this. It would however, appear to be highly unlikely this wasn’t a mass email campaign which consisted of different terms and conditions for different folks as it’s a copy and pasted email. I know of another influencer who sent me the same email and he also denied their offer.

    • @manwithclass09
      @manwithclass09 Год назад +1

      @@AvgJoeWatchReviews Once again - good on you Sir...

    • @AvgJoeWatchReviews
      @AvgJoeWatchReviews  Год назад +1

      @@manwithclass09 welcome to the channel. Hope you’ll stick around and hope to see you in the comments sections of future videos soon! Have a good day! 👍

    • @manwithclass09
      @manwithclass09 Год назад +1

      @@AvgJoeWatchReviews Will do Sir - thanks so much...

  • @tomwiechert
    @tomwiechert Год назад +3

    So basically these guys are selling the same stuff as San Martin and Pagani Design, but charge 5-10x more for it?

    • @AvgJoeWatchReviews
      @AvgJoeWatchReviews  Год назад +1

      🤔

    • @andrewk7422
      @andrewk7422 Год назад

      Honest question, does Pagani or SM have a Miyota 90S5 watch available (homage is totally fine) for $65-$130? I’d absolutely buy one! Does SM even have a watch at $130 these days? That’s the price we’re talking, right?

  • @juniorjohnson5961
    @juniorjohnson5961 Год назад +1

    Hello Buddy
    I haven't been getting any notifications for your videos 🤷‍♂️ sorry i haven't been in touch ✊

    • @AvgJoeWatchReviews
      @AvgJoeWatchReviews  Год назад +2

      Thanks for letting me know. Please make sure you hit that bell 🔔 notification if you haven’t already. Appreciate your support.

  • @gregalonzo747
    @gregalonzo747 Год назад +5

    I have seen reviews by other content creators who praise this brand but they just sound disingenuous. Two Australian reviewers immediately come to mind. Both have never seen a watch that they didn't like.

    • @jamesblonde2271
      @jamesblonde2271 Год назад +3

      Partly 'cos they don't review the dogs.

    • @markwagner6566
      @markwagner6566 Год назад +3

      @@jamesblonde2271, sounds like you are one of the guilty. LOL!

    • @AvgJoeWatchReviews
      @AvgJoeWatchReviews  Год назад +3

      Thanks for sharing Greg. My title applies to those who accept those terms. Obtaining these watches on my own released me from being a slave to the company.

    • @gregalonzo747
      @gregalonzo747 Год назад +1

      @@AvgJoeWatchReviews, that's why so many of us place our trust in you for an honest review.

    • @AvgJoeWatchReviews
      @AvgJoeWatchReviews  Год назад +4

      @@gregalonzo747thank you very much. I was just having lunch with my family and said to my wife, I’d rather be respected for my honesty than well liked. I’m humbled to hear you say that brother. Really respect that as it means a lot to me.

  • @markedfortime
    @markedfortime Год назад +2

    It's a shame Borealis is playing these games. They make a fairly solid watch at a good value (excluding the $600+ range). I'm not sure what they're thinking by offering identical specs for twice the price.
    When they break the $500 range, I'd like to see a more refined bracelet with quick adjust. This requirement is now the minimum for me and I will no longer consider a watch without it. Zelos has been doing it for years! They also should be including a quick release bracelet and strap options.
    On the movement side, I've had bad experiences with the SW200 and STP1-11. The NH series is boring, but rock solid and I've never had issues with Miyota 9000 series, so while I agree, I'd like to see something better, I'm just not sure what it should be. If they go Selita, at least use the elabore grade and add a see-through caseback.
    They did a good job with the lume and the textured dials. Case dimensions are spot on as well. I agree with you on the diver, but it's an older model, so I can cut them some slack.

  • @chriswalls6667
    @chriswalls6667 Год назад +1

    When I get my Borealis GMT I’ll send it to you for review.

    • @AvgJoeWatchReviews
      @AvgJoeWatchReviews  Год назад +1

      Chris, that is extremely kind of you. Thank you for the generous offer. I have decided to black list the brand indefinitely in light of the circumstances surrounding the brand. I hope you understand.

    • @chriswalls6667
      @chriswalls6667 Год назад +1

      @@AvgJoeWatchReviews I also have a Phoibos Venture GMT and a Steinhart Ocean 1 Titanium

    • @AvgJoeWatchReviews
      @AvgJoeWatchReviews  Год назад +1

      @@chriswalls6667 I’m definitely interested in the Steinhart if you don’t mind lending that one. You have my email right?

    • @chriswalls6667
      @chriswalls6667 Год назад +1

      @@AvgJoeWatchReviews I have your address but I don’t know about your email

  • @christopherjohnson4276
    @christopherjohnson4276 Год назад +4

    Way to stick to your guns. I respect you and your reviews 💯 because you maintain integrity, and don't compromise. Merry Christmas my friend!!!

    • @AvgJoeWatchReviews
      @AvgJoeWatchReviews  Год назад +3

      Thank you my friend. I’m no saint but integrity is utmost important to me. Even more than kindness if you can believe that. 😉👍

  • @jodysilvia2
    @jodysilvia2 Год назад +1

    Didn't Random Rob do a collaboration with borealis recently.

    • @AvgJoeWatchReviews
      @AvgJoeWatchReviews  Год назад +1

      Yes sir. Special Edition with RR on the case back actually.

  • @TheTownWatch
    @TheTownWatch Год назад +3

    I’ve had a few Borealis watches on my channel as loaners through a “tour” when I was apart of Random Rob’s discord group. I’m general I’ve liked the watches I’ve seen from them and they usually come in a pretty good price points.
    Any watches or other items I’ve received as “gifts” from companies are always contingent on them letting me do an honest review without any restrictions from them. If a company wants to approve my review ahead of time or give me a list of things I can’t say, that’s an automatic “no go” for me.
    I’ve never been paid money for any of my reviews but if a brand were to pay someone for a “review” and give that person certain requirements for a video I can understand how that situation might be different but then it probably can’t be considered a genuine “review” but rather a paid advertisement in all reality.

    • @AvgJoeWatchReviews
      @AvgJoeWatchReviews  Год назад +2

      To your last point… it would be a genuine review if the reviewer had full control of their content. Whether paid money or goods, payment is payment and that is another debate altogether. But assuming that one is okay with being “paid” for a service or in our case an honest review, my point is that we need full transparency in order to build trust.

  • @scatterbrain9490
    @scatterbrain9490 Год назад +2

    Good info

  • @0611930024838
    @0611930024838 Год назад +1

    well done

  • @dazzlerjohnwatchman8215
    @dazzlerjohnwatchman8215 Год назад +2

    What I think is sad Joe is that some LAWYER in the sales department has ruined the reputation of this brand. Your honest but complete lack of enthusiasm in these reviews kind of made it a bit of a yawn for me. I actually nodded off a few times. Not your fault. Do me one favour and don't do this brand for a while after this review. It was so mixed up that it made my head spin. Prices are all over the place and it's like they spent all their budget on corporate lawyers rather than designers and engineers. Thanks much for showing us Boring Borealis and there road to oblivion.

    • @AvgJoeWatchReviews
      @AvgJoeWatchReviews  Год назад +1

      All good. It doesn’t surprise me you nodded off a few time. These watches were a bit of a bore for me as well. My apologizes. I’ll never feature this brand on my channel again nor would I ever buy one. I can promise you that. Thanks for watching.

  • @jaer.6540
    @jaer.6540 Год назад

    *Miyota 90S5

  • @alexbizz
    @alexbizz Год назад +1

    Great Effing Video

    • @AvgJoeWatchReviews
      @AvgJoeWatchReviews  Год назад +2

      Thank you so much. Had to be done.

    • @alexbizz
      @alexbizz Год назад

      Thanks @Avg. Joe Watch Reviews we are all in this hobby for fun. Shout out to Elizabeth Grant!

  • @jayeyesacks1604
    @jayeyesacks1604 Год назад +1

    Better brand name: BoringAllofUs

  • @JusttheWatch
    @JusttheWatch Год назад +1

    Not only are they asking you to make them a commercial they're also trying to severely under pay you. If you went with that and had a negative opinion of the watch, and they wouldn't let you post the video you'd be out all the time it took testing, filming and editing only to get a watch you presumably didn't like.

    • @AvgJoeWatchReviews
      @AvgJoeWatchReviews  Год назад +1

      That’s assuming they weren’t offered payment on top of that. Good points Dave. Nice to see you chime in brother. Thanks for watching!

  • @samayoa95
    @samayoa95 Год назад +5

    Hi Joe, I like your channel, but you just might be wrong on this one. Jody from JOMW always includes three moans and niggles with every review, and he has done 7 on Borealis models.

    • @AvgJoeWatchReviews
      @AvgJoeWatchReviews  Год назад +2

      Thank you for watching and liking my channel. I appreciate your opinion and expressing it freely to me. Despite what you said, this is their criteria for reviewers, whether it be for some reviewers or all that get the stipulations. My question to you is in regards to subscriber count… does someone with more subscribers get more leeway? Does a channel with less subscribers have less creative control and therefore more stipulations? Is this an issue? Would my review, which had far more moans and niggles pass their filtering process (in which no other micro brand company has implemented on my channel)? Has to make you wonder at the very least.

    • @samayoa95
      @samayoa95 Год назад +4

      @@AvgJoeWatchReviews Thank you for reading my comment. Please continue making great content, Joe.

  • @johnnguyen385
    @johnnguyen385 6 месяцев назад +1

    the watches are OK but Borealis made such a poor decision on their marketing.

  • @dany1024
    @dany1024 Год назад +1

    I have a Borealis Sintra, and it suck 🤮

  • @16jan1986
    @16jan1986 Год назад +1

    650 dollar hommage.... I see fail eventhough it looks nice .... Hommages belong in the max 300 dollar range

  • @jodysilvia2
    @jodysilvia2 Год назад +2

    Life's to short move on.

  • @traquakuppler
    @traquakuppler Год назад

    Borealis 🤮

  • @KillingTimeWithNorman
    @KillingTimeWithNorman Год назад +1

    The Explorer homage looks great! I like that dial. Good call on turning them down.

  • @mohdrizalbaba9544
    @mohdrizalbaba9544 Год назад +1

    Glad you still maintain the integrity bro... I love your chanel for the honest reviews you did.. always got my support bro -ejalbaba_horologymaniac-

    • @AvgJoeWatchReviews
      @AvgJoeWatchReviews  Год назад +1

      Thanks bro. You’re one of the few that have stayed around and supported the channel. It’s recognized and appreciated.