I was on the road the day the train slipped on the Gorge, was actually heading back to Palmy with my Parents. Such a sad thing to know it's closed, loved the video.
This is awesome as! I love trains, you pass my sisters house i go out to her back yard when visiting and watch the trains, In Palmerston Nth. By the time i run out to watch them the driver has usually gone past but i watch the trains go by. So close to the tracks . Thanks for the trip to finally see where the trains go🙂
Great stuff. Reminds me of that fantastic journey over a few days by rail from Auckland down to as far as Greymouth and then by road ending up at Milford Sound, I think? This was on Prime TV, 2 or 3 years ago.
All my life I have loved trains. January would have been almost exactly 63 years since I took the train from San Francisco to Chicago and then to WIllard Oh. Home from ET school on my way to Wash DC after some leave. Thanks for One More Ride. (before the Navy I worked Diesel Maint at the B&O in Newark)
Wow, thanks Cameron for the great video. It brought back some memories of when I was a Loco engineer based in PN in the 1970's thru to the 1990's before transferring to Masterton. How the area at the North end of the Milson deviation has been built up along with the area Kelvin Grove to Whakarongo. A lot has changed, but a lot is still the same. I wish you well with your career with KR.
Thanks Geoff. For those asking this is in the North Island of New Zealand. The Manawatu Gorge (cut out by a river) has the Ruahine Mountain range to the north of the Gorge ( where the rail line is) and the Tararua mountain Range to the south of the Gorge. I remember the Woodville station well as my wife came from Woodville and we used the railcar to there often. Interesting to see the lowered track in the tunnels.
There used to be an annual charity walk that went the whole way through The Gorge along the rail track, just in the opposite direction to this train. It was held on a Sunday morning each May when there were no scheduled trains. It started at the Balance Bridge end (40:00) and ended after the Manawatu/Pohangina River bridge (21:00). I did it with my daughter a few times. Then the new health-n-safety laws made it all but impossible to do about 8 years ago. It would be great if KiwiRail (or whoever is in charge) could make a plan. They were very popular.
@@joshuawalker9544 You can still walk and bicycle along the road and there are little dirt paths along the slips. I've biked the entire length from Ashhurst to Ferry Reserve
@@991Weeman Yea I heard there was path over, but heard it was more in the bush than along the old road which is cool, but would love to go along the actual road. I guess it's fair enough since I would imagine a good portion wouldn't be passable due to slips
But consider it safe to vacc everyone. Regardless of risk profile with a new product without even 1/4 of the usual test time . Search you tube for mRNA still in body after 8 weeks
The scenery is great. The good thing about trains is that you go more inland than you do as opposed to traveling in a bus. Thankyou for the video Geoff.
It's just a shame we no longer have passenger trains, apart from the Wellington and Auckland commuter electric rail networks, and the occasional Wellington~Auckland tourist train. What is left of our once good rail network is only a shadow of its former self, and only used for goods trains, and the occasional outing of a restored steam train or two.
The area around palmerston north was so flat and boring I almost gave up watching but am so happy I kept going as the views along the river were stunning. Great work.
Nice cabride. It seems to me that the camera was located near the wheels instead of on the windshield. That noise also, every time the train would turn a corner the wheels would make a horrible screeching noise. It seems like the wheels need oiling or are in constant need of repair. The view was however fantastic as landscapes whizzed by.
Beautiful. Scenic. It would be perfect is filmed on day light when driving away from sun. Video would explode in colors and beauty of the nature. Pity that video sticks. It is like I would hit with my head into TV screen for 50 min. It decreases the quality of he video and joy while watching it.
What's the story with the bridge across the river there, is it a continuation of Fitzherbert Rd to the back of Ashhurst? I used to live in Woodville & travel to Palmy for work in the early 70's. I floated the gorge, jet boated it & even flew through it.
@@nzsaltflatsracer8054 Can't go through the Gorge by vehicle and the two alternative routes are struggling with the heavy traffic so a new highway is being built. If you look at New Gorge Road? on RUclips it may show you.
@@bnrailfannz8262 Thanks Mate, that sure has been a long time coming. I'd been hit by rocks & detoured back over the saddle road a few times back then. We used to race through it at night, fastest man (idiot) to the Balance bridge but now I'm older & a whole lot faster! :-)
@@bnrailfannz8262 Remember that big bump on the bend about half way through, if you hit it wrong going fast towards Palmy it would stuff you right in the cliff! That's a great piece of our history gone.
Thanks for that. It's been a whole since I've seen grass grow and a few holes in the wall. I did get very excited when it became double track and pulled into woodville. No station to be seen. Definitely a prize in 20yrs for kids to see how undeveloped NZ is. Oh well, farm produce on the edge of the world...what can you do? Probably should have become a fish farm for China?
30:12 I wonder how they do track maintenance on this strech of the railway line - every kind of necessary stuff has to be transported on the same track that is to be repaired or upgraded. And there is very limited space for materials and equipment on the side of the track.
This is NZ; there's a *lot* of rail sections like that (although rarely with quite as much sideslope). Most of the equipment is high-rail and can be brought in on the track fine.
Very enjoyable trip thankyou for sharing. From what you can see the roadway looks largely intact. More of a political agenda rather than road engineering one to close it maybe ?
@@ratguy69 Yeah the gorge road had been suffering slips and closures all the time in recent decades. I remember back in the 90’s being told about it and how they regretted it being dynamited back when they built it (instead of being cut out of the rock with picks like the rail corridor). I’m pretty sure that it’s had slips since it closed too.
How come NZ-ers can live with just one beep at crossings vs lots of beeps here in Canada or funny high-low bunch of honks in my old country the Netherlands. Are You guys more attentative than us elsewhere? 😝 OMG I just heard TWO beeps! 😮😇
Well Ellen, there's been a few tragic losses on the tracks near bunnythorp as well as near danniverke where those unattentative end up not so we'll off😔. I live in palmy n seen a few bad ones
Great day great weather, great sound even great vision ahead, great life on the railway..................let's hope we can get a more trustworthy government in our next election?
It's not going that slowly, the train took 58 seconds to travel from Roberts Line level crossing @10:05 to to James Line level crossing @ 11:03, a distance of 1.0km exactly making and average speed of 62 km/h. Anthony
I was on the road the day the train slipped on the Gorge, was actually heading back to Palmy with my Parents. Such a sad thing to know it's closed, loved the video.
Absolutely gorgeous and evocative scenery. Thanks so much for uploading this!
Most don't know that the Manawatu gorge is a very rare geological feature where a river flows right through a mountain range.
This is awesome as! I love trains, you pass my sisters house i go out to her back yard when visiting and watch the trains, In Palmerston Nth. By the time i run out to watch them the driver has usually gone past but i watch the trains go by. So close to the tracks . Thanks for the trip to finally see where the trains go🙂
Great stuff. Reminds me of that fantastic journey over a few days by rail from Auckland down to as far as Greymouth and then by road ending up at Milford Sound, I think? This was on Prime TV, 2 or 3 years ago.
Aaah! Those Windmills against that Sun! Beautiful as usual Geoff.
Thanks for a pleasant scenic ride,time just flew by,cheers from West Aus
All my life I have loved trains. January would have been almost exactly 63 years since I took the train from San Francisco to Chicago and then to WIllard Oh. Home from ET school on my way to Wash DC after some leave.
Thanks for One More Ride. (before the Navy I worked Diesel Maint at the B&O in Newark)
Wow, thanks Cameron for the great video. It brought back some memories of when I was a Loco engineer based in PN in the 1970's thru to the 1990's before transferring to Masterton. How the area at the North end of the Milson deviation has been built up along with the area Kelvin Grove to Whakarongo. A lot has changed, but a lot is still the same. I wish you well with your career with KR.
Thanks Geoff. For those asking this is in the North Island of New Zealand. The Manawatu Gorge (cut out by a river) has the Ruahine Mountain range to the north of the Gorge ( where the rail line is) and the Tararua mountain Range to the south of the Gorge. I remember the Woodville station well as my wife came from Woodville and we used the railcar to there often. Interesting to see the lowered track in the tunnels.
There used to be an annual charity walk that went the whole way through The Gorge along the rail track, just in the opposite direction to this train. It was held on a Sunday morning each May when there were no scheduled trains. It started at the Balance Bridge end (40:00) and ended after the Manawatu/Pohangina River bridge (21:00). I did it with my daughter a few times. Then the new health-n-safety laws made it all but impossible to do about 8 years ago. It would be great if KiwiRail (or whoever is in charge) could make a plan. They were very popular.
would be cool now if we could do along the road of the now closed gorge road
@@joshuawalker9544 You can still walk and bicycle along the road and there are little dirt paths along the slips. I've biked the entire length from Ashhurst to Ferry Reserve
@@991Weeman Yea I heard there was path over, but heard it was more in the bush than along the old road which is cool, but would love to go along the actual road. I guess it's fair enough since I would imagine a good portion wouldn't be passable due to slips
But consider it safe to vacc everyone. Regardless of risk profile with a new product without even 1/4 of the usual test time . Search you tube for mRNA still in body after 8 weeks
@@jackd1582 you're having a very different conversation to us
Awesome video -- even better when sped up. Rail is the best way to travel.
An area I never covered in my NZR days. Very interesting. Thanks for your work.
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@@Mzjblogerpk Is this relevant here?
The scenery is great. The good thing about trains is that you go more inland than you do as opposed to traveling in a bus. Thankyou for the video Geoff.
That is the same with the Indian Pacific when you drive you on the edge of the Nullarbor when you are on the train you are in the middle of it !
It's just a shame we no longer have passenger trains, apart from the Wellington and Auckland commuter electric rail networks, and the occasional Wellington~Auckland tourist train. What is left of our once good rail network is only a shadow of its former self, and only used for goods trains, and the occasional outing of a restored steam train or two.
The area around palmerston north was so flat and boring I almost gave up watching but am so happy I kept going as the views along the river were stunning. Great work.
FANTASTIC JOURNEY
That was a wonderful ride!
Bravo for the video, always wondered what it looked like from the other side of that gorge.
awesome!!! thanks for the adventure!!!! What a view!!!
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Wow! Thank you so much, what a fantastic video!
This is fantastic 👏👏👏. I always wanted to know what it looked like from your prospective.
Nice cabride. It seems to me that the camera was located near the wheels instead of on the windshield. That noise also, every time the train would turn a corner the wheels would make a horrible screeching noise. It seems like the wheels need oiling or are in constant need of repair. The view was however fantastic as landscapes whizzed by.
Probably just the track needs greasing on those curves.
Saw my car as you were going into Ashhurst. Very cool video
I didn’t realise the tunnels were so long
You should play the Flanders and Swann song - "The Slow Train" during the video :)
Beautiful. Scenic. It would be perfect is filmed on day light when driving away from sun. Video would explode in colors and beauty of the nature.
Pity that video sticks. It is like I would hit with my head into TV screen for 50 min. It decreases the quality of he video and joy while watching it.
Hopefully there will be a footpath on the new bridge being built at the southern end of the Gorge....great for photography :-)
What's the story with the bridge across the river there, is it a continuation of Fitzherbert Rd to the back of Ashhurst? I used to live in Woodville & travel to Palmy for work in the early 70's. I floated the gorge, jet boated it & even flew through it.
@@nzsaltflatsracer8054 Can't go through the Gorge by vehicle and the two alternative routes are struggling with the heavy traffic so a new highway is being built. If you look at New Gorge Road? on RUclips it may show you.
@@bnrailfannz8262 Thanks Mate, that sure has been a long time coming. I'd been hit by rocks & detoured back over the saddle road a few times back then. We used to race through it at night, fastest man (idiot) to the Balance bridge but now I'm older & a whole lot faster! :-)
@@nzsaltflatsracer8054 I used to pass truck & trailers in the Gorge long before they painted double yellow lines....ahhh....memories :-D
@@bnrailfannz8262 Remember that big bump on the bend about half way through, if you hit it wrong going fast towards Palmy it would stuff you right in the cliff! That's a great piece of our history gone.
Ouch!!! Those screeching and grinding of the wheels on the bends. Why is it sooooo bad?
superb!!!
Only thing missing was the driver pin pointing things we pass on the way through
Love the video but it sounds like the microphone was fastened to a wheel.
Thanks for that. It's been a whole since I've seen grass grow and a few holes in the wall. I did get very excited when it became double track and pulled into woodville. No station to be seen.
Definitely a prize in 20yrs for kids to see how undeveloped NZ is. Oh well, farm produce on the edge of the world...what can you do? Probably should have become a fish farm for China?
30:12 I wonder how they do track maintenance on this strech of the railway line - every kind of necessary stuff has to be transported on the same track that is to be repaired or upgraded. And there is very limited space for materials and equipment on the side of the track.
This is NZ; there's a *lot* of rail sections like that (although rarely with quite as much sideslope).
Most of the equipment is high-rail and can be brought in on the track fine.
There’s a level crossing at the lime works a few km down the track, you can see it at the 40 min mark. They usually hirail in from there.
Nice. Is this a freight train?
I don't think there is a passenger train running this line anymore.
@@roninboxers
Milk tanks.
No passengers now.
NZ has a lousy train service.
Bring back the railcars!
At 16;25 that place is haunted.. listen as the train gets to the crossing as it's going past,, weird...
Sounds like much of that line needs regaugung.
Very enjoyable trip thankyou for sharing. From what you can see the roadway looks largely intact. More of a political agenda rather than road engineering one to close it maybe ?
Don't be ridiculous. What would be "political" in needing to spend millions on a new saddle road?
It’s not just the few slips that closed it, it’s that they kept happening every year or two and required constant work to keep the road open.
@@ratguy69 Yeah the gorge road had been suffering slips and closures all the time in recent decades. I remember back in the 90’s being told about it and how they regretted it being dynamited back when they built it (instead of being cut out of the rock with picks like the rail corridor). I’m pretty sure that it’s had slips since it closed too.
It would be nice if someone told us where all this took place like the Country for example !!!!
New Zealand
Greatest land in all the world - the mighty Manawatu.
How come NZ-ers can live with just one beep at crossings vs lots of beeps here in Canada or funny high-low bunch of honks in my old country the Netherlands. Are You guys more attentative than us elsewhere? 😝 OMG I just heard TWO beeps! 😮😇
Maybe because they don't need to due to those excruciatingly painful squealy wheels warning them miles ahead.
Well Ellen, there's been a few tragic losses on the tracks near bunnythorp as well as near danniverke where those unattentative end up not so we'll off😔. I live in palmy n seen a few bad ones
@@ericwolff6059 that's gold but true🤣🤣🤣🤣👌
@@ericwolff6059 well I really feel sorry for the ones that missed all the excruciating painful sound n got hit by a train anway
@@bbwiebz3994 oh that's sad!
Great day great weather, great sound even great vision ahead, great life on the railway..................let's hope we can get a more trustworthy government in our next election?
Thanks for a great trip.Have not been for yrs.
Which party was it that sold the railway off back in ‘93?
39:51 2 rabbits
Why does it take so long to go such a short distance?
It's not going that slowly, the train took 58 seconds to travel from Roberts Line level crossing @10:05 to to James Line level crossing @ 11:03, a distance of 1.0km exactly making and average speed of 62 km/h.
Anthony
Line speed through much of the Manawatu Gorge is 25 kph due to a variety of factors. Track condition, tunnel clearances (they’re really tight!), etc.
@@ratguy69 OK thanks for the answer
Train driver eye view is the worst view ,just looking at the rail,nothing else, its very boring scene