Caaaaaaamon boys, show us more studio tours, or bts of your set builds / shoots etc. Your creative filmmaking adventures / builds etc are SO MUCH MORE INTERESTING than gear reviews etc etc. I get these might make you coin now or in the future, but IDC, I want what I want hahaha
I'm a fan of Blackmagic and am in the platform with cameras. However, I just upgraded my PC case to the Lian Li 011 XL partly for the hot swap drive bays. My 3 m.2 fire cuda drives (2 x 2TB and 1 x 4TB) cost me close to $2,000 so 20TB in a NAS isn't insane.
I mean considering I've spent 7k for my NAS unit (though it had more space), this doesn't sound bad at all with nvme drives. Regular HDDs are so loud it's irritating and distracting.
I've been using the Cloud Pod and it's a bit slow due to the 5gbps limitations but I'm looking to upgrade to the new Blackmagic Design Cloud Dock 2. Seems to be a great option at a much lower pricepoint than the 8TB
Hilarious that they think people will buy this knowing they have to send it away if you have a drive fail … The entire point of RAID 5, is the fact that you have almost no downtime, and no data loss. I can’t imagine sending away all of my NAS, and therefore ALL OF THE DATA in the mail, purely because of a single drive failure. What a silly move by blackmagic. If not for that, I would love the idea of such speed from the NVME.2 drives 👌
Great review Caleb. You didn't show actual transfer speeds here though and as for alternatives - the new Asustor FLASHSTOR 12 Pro which we hope to test soon provides a much more cost-effective option (although with less connectivity) with user-replaceable NVMEs.
Hey thanks! Yeah only did a few basic tests but it seemed to consistently transfer in that 1000-1200MB per second. We weren't able to do as many speed tests as we would have like as our schedule got a bit busy! I was unaware of that FLASHSTORE 12 Pro unit, that looks like an awesome budget friendly unit. Cool to see more units like that coming to the market!
@@threefoldtv The Asustor is very new (not sure anybody tested it yet - we are talking to Asustor about it now). 1200MB/s is very close to the theoretical limit of 10GB/s connections so it is basically as good as it gets - if you want better performance (which the NVMEs in the unit can achieve of course - even older ones) you need to go to 25GB/s infrastructure which almost nobody has or to aggregate 10GB/s somehow - both are not practical. What would make the most sense on all these units are TB4 ports (or later this year maybe even TB5). They can work only at short distances but at least one or two computers can work at very very high speeds (2x-3x faster than 10GB/s).
@@toofy7253 Those speeds were just connecting to a single 10Gb port direct to machines. The limit of 10 Gigabit ethernet is 1250 Megabytes per second. So it was pretty much maxing out the speed limit of 10Gb. If we had connected 4 machines the unit is capable of fully saturating all 4 of those 10G ports which would be equivalent to 5000Mb/s which is impressive over networking. You can obviously get those same speeds with a single NVME over Thunderbolt 4 but Thunderbolt is not a viable network solution and has a very limited distance of about 7ft vs 100's of feet with 10G ethernet.
There is no on/off button. Is it harmful to the system to unplug the power cable on a nightly basis in order to shut it down? We get a lot of thunderstorms in Florida in the summer. I have ours plugged into a UPS system but it’s still pretty nerve-racking every time a storm comes through.
7:10 because they must have firmware locks to prevent upgrades. Armchips with the controller on the chip are a thing. so expect more products that could allow (but wont) user reparability but not upgrades. I.E. you will be stuck at this 20 tb capacity. great way to not actually be pro black magic. See: macmini with replacable but not upgradable ssd.
i want the OS they are using in it so i can build my own. im using a windows mini pc rn, but its underpowered for windows, and i want to keep the low power usage.
Caaaaaaamon boys, show us more studio tours, or bts of your set builds / shoots etc. Your creative filmmaking adventures / builds etc are SO MUCH MORE INTERESTING than gear reviews etc etc. I get these might make you coin now or in the future, but IDC, I want what I want hahaha
New gear hall vid coming soon! Just filmed it on Thursday last week!
I'm a fan of Blackmagic and am in the platform with cameras. However, I just upgraded my PC case to the Lian Li 011 XL partly for the hot swap drive bays. My 3 m.2 fire cuda drives (2 x 2TB and 1 x 4TB) cost me close to $2,000 so 20TB in a NAS isn't insane.
I mean considering I've spent 7k for my NAS unit (though it had more space), this doesn't sound bad at all with nvme drives. Regular HDDs are so loud it's irritating and distracting.
I've been using the Cloud Pod and it's a bit slow due to the 5gbps limitations but I'm looking to upgrade to the new Blackmagic Design Cloud Dock 2. Seems to be a great option at a much lower pricepoint than the 8TB
Hilarious that they think people will buy this knowing they have to send it away if you have a drive fail … The entire point of RAID 5, is the fact that you have almost no downtime, and no data loss. I can’t imagine sending away all of my NAS, and therefore ALL OF THE DATA in the mail, purely because of a single drive failure. What a silly move by blackmagic. If not for that, I would love the idea of such speed from the NVME.2 drives 👌
Great review Caleb. You didn't show actual transfer speeds here though and as for alternatives - the new Asustor FLASHSTOR 12 Pro which we hope to test soon provides a much more cost-effective option (although with less connectivity) with user-replaceable NVMEs.
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Hey thanks! Yeah only did a few basic tests but it seemed to consistently transfer in that 1000-1200MB per second. We weren't able to do as many speed tests as we would have like as our schedule got a bit busy!
I was unaware of that FLASHSTORE 12 Pro unit, that looks like an awesome budget friendly unit. Cool to see more units like that coming to the market!
@@threefoldtv The Asustor is very new (not sure anybody tested it yet - we are talking to Asustor about it now). 1200MB/s is very close to the theoretical limit of 10GB/s connections so it is basically as good as it gets - if you want better performance (which the NVMEs in the unit can achieve of course - even older ones) you need to go to 25GB/s infrastructure which almost nobody has or to aggregate 10GB/s somehow - both are not practical. What would make the most sense on all these units are TB4 ports (or later this year maybe even TB5). They can work only at short distances but at least one or two computers can work at very very high speeds (2x-3x faster than 10GB/s).
@@threefoldtv That's not very fast for the cost and number of combined powerful ethernet ports? Must be the way you set it up that's limiting it?
@@toofy7253 Those speeds were just connecting to a single 10Gb port direct to machines.
The limit of 10 Gigabit ethernet is 1250 Megabytes per second. So it was pretty much maxing out the speed limit of 10Gb. If we had connected 4 machines the unit is capable of fully saturating all 4 of those 10G ports which would be equivalent to 5000Mb/s which is impressive over networking.
You can obviously get those same speeds with a single NVME over Thunderbolt 4 but Thunderbolt is not a viable network solution and has a very limited distance of about 7ft vs 100's of feet with 10G ethernet.
Please make a updatevideo about the Backup and Ingest Functions!!!!
Really enjoyed this review Caleb! Top work :)
Thanks Alex!
There is no on/off button. Is it harmful to the system to unplug the power cable on a nightly basis in order to shut it down? We get a lot of thunderstorms in Florida in the summer. I have ours plugged into a UPS system but it’s still pretty nerve-racking every time a storm comes through.
"$7,595 is pretty pricey"
Me editing with a $30,000 AVID Nexis ... (O _ O) ?
7:10 because they must have firmware locks to prevent upgrades.
Armchips with the controller on the chip are a thing. so expect more products that could allow (but wont) user reparability but not upgrades. I.E. you will be stuck at this 20 tb capacity. great way to not actually be pro black magic.
See: macmini with replacable but not upgradable ssd.
what solution would you recommend if the blackmagic cloud store would have not existed?
kids build your own NAS, and install a OS of your choosing
thanks mate do you need to set the NAS drive as the footage source or are they block storage attached to the editor workstation ?
i want the OS they are using in it so i can build my own.
im using a windows mini pc rn, but its underpowered for windows, and i want to keep the low power usage.
Just get unRAID. Works better and allows for more customization.
Excellent review!
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